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Lord Foul wrote:From the article

"The Eiffel Tower in Paris is expected to be lit up in green light on Friday to mark the entry into force of the historic climate pact. "



However  good....but too late methinks to prevent some nasty surprises

with 90% of my leccy soon to be provided from solar (up from the present 50%) SOME use from the grid is inevitable for heavy power machinery like my saw bench and spindle moulder and house hold stuff like washing machine etc.
and heating provided from my wood burner...fueled from the takings in the woodland we own (and hence carbon neutral, except for a minor carbon cost in cutting and transport) making the use of gas virtually redundant

I think I ought to get a subsidy from the govt....

Lord Foul wrote:Of course I'm not doing this for the sake of the climate...bugger that , thats far too "cooperative and humanist"...nope I'm doing it cos i is a cheapskate and am protecting my pocket  and of course I wont be ppaying any of those ridiculous green taxes on my household lighting and heating

now if ONLY they would produce an affordable electric van type vehicle with a 400mile range , decent ground clearance and a 2 tonne carrying capacity AND do me a one for one SWAP for my diesle monster I'd be laughing...but they dont  so I guess I'll have to pay the penalty on that.....

shucks

looks like my customers are going to have to pay up some more..........

Ziz wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:From the article

"The Eiffel Tower in Paris is expected to be lit up in green light on Friday to mark the entry into force of the historic climate pact. "



However  good....but too late methinks to prevent some nasty surprises

with 90% of my leccy soon to be provided from solar (up from the present 50%) SOME use from the grid is inevitable for heavy power machinery like my saw bench and spindle moulder and house hold stuff like washing machine etc.
and heating provided from my wood burner...fueled from the takings in the woodland we own (and hence carbon neutral, except for a minor carbon cost in cutting and transport) making the use of gas virtually redundant

I think I ought to get a subsidy from the govt....

Do you get paid if you feed electricity into the grid?

Ziz wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:Of course I'm not doing this for the sake of the climate...bugger that , thats far too "cooperative and humanist"...nope I'm doing it cos i is a cheapskate and am protecting my pocket  and of course I wont be ppaying any of those ridiculous green taxes on my household lighting and heating

now if ONLY they would produce an affordable electric van type vehicle with a 400mile range , decent ground clearance and a 2 tonne carrying capacity AND do me a one for one SWAP for my diesle monster I'd be laughing...but they dont  so I guess I'll have to pay the penalty on that.....

shucks

looks like my customers are going to have to pay up some more..........

It's cheaper to go solar etc than buy off the grid - didn't know that.

Makes sense to me whatever your motive.

Lord Foul wrote:
you do BUT, and heres the sickening fraud in it all......

in order to get that you have to have an installation done by an "approved firm" and have it inspected etc etc etc....which means in the end its going to cost you a small fortune....and the payback is crap   ....I'll be worm food before it pays for itself
stuff that...there are ways round the part P regulations on electrical installations, so no inspection no registered sparky needed....
there are ways round the building regulations regarding roof installation too (like put em on your shed roof...I have plenty of shed roof area)

Ziz wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:
you do BUT, and heres the sickening fraud in it all......

in order to get that you have to have an installation done by an "approved firm" and have it inspected etc etc etc....which means in the end its going to cost you a small fortune....and the payback is crap   ....I'll be worm food before it pays for itself
stuff that...there are ways round the part P regulations on electrical installations, so no inspection no registered sparky needed....
there are ways round the building regulations regarding roof installation too (like put em on your shed roof...I have plenty of shed roof area)

Tbh, I'm surprised you can't legally install stuff yourself and then get it inspected - and connected to the grid if necessary - for a small fee.  

I don't think I could be bothered with all that.

Lord Foul wrote:and ziz...you should perhaps take note of the second part of my signature....
sometimes my posts (as a poster) are rather more than a little "tongue in cheek" those who REALLY know me....know the difference

Lord Foul wrote:

Ziz wrote:

Tbh, I'm surprised you can't legally install stuff yourself and then get it inspected - and connected to the grid if necessary - for a small fee.  

I don't think I could be bothered with all that.

you can do your own household wiring in that way...but its a pain in the arse...you have to have it inspected sevearl times at different stages, usually by the local authority...who send any old twit with nothing to do and no actual knowledge round to do the inspection  then charge you anything up to 500 quid to pass it...
but to qualkify for the feed in tarrif the work has to be done by one of the "approved contarctors"

Lord Foul wrote:Of course I'm not doing this for the sake of the climate...bugger that , thats far too "cooperative and humanist"...nope I'm doing it cos i is a cheapskate and am protecting my pocket  and of course I wont be ppaying any of those ridiculous green taxes on my household lighting and heating

now if ONLY they would produce an affordable electric van type vehicle with a 400mile range , decent ground clearance and a 2 tonne carrying capacity AND do me a one for one SWAP for my diesle monster I'd be laughing...but they dont  so I guess I'll have to pay the penalty on that.....

shucks

looks like my customers are going to have to pay up some more..........

Lord Foul wrote:From the article

"The Eiffel Tower in Paris is expected to be lit up in green light on Friday to mark the entry into force of the historic climate pact. "



However  good....but too late methinks to prevent some nasty surprises

with 90% of my leccy soon to be provided from solar (up from the present 50%) SOME use from the grid is inevitable for heavy power machinery like my saw bench and spindle moulder and house hold stuff like washing machine etc.
and heating provided from my wood burner...fueled from the takings in the woodland we own (and hence carbon neutral, except for a minor carbon cost in cutting and transport) making the use of gas virtually redundant

I think I ought to get a subsidy from the govt....

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:From the article

"The Eiffel Tower in Paris is expected to be lit up in green light on Friday to mark the entry into force of the historic climate pact. "



However  good....but too late methinks to prevent some nasty surprises

with 90% of my leccy soon to be provided from solar (up from the present 50%) SOME use from the grid is inevitable for heavy power machinery like my saw bench and spindle moulder and house hold stuff like washing machine etc.
and heating provided from my wood burner...fueled from the takings in the woodland we own (and hence carbon neutral, except for a minor carbon cost in cutting and transport) making the use of gas virtually redundant

I think I ought to get a subsidy from the govt....

IF YOU  added a few more panels so that you were eventually producing 200->300% of your power needs, you could then sell excess electricity back to a local power_supply company...

thats what we were discussing above wolfie..... the "feed in tarrif"...which HAS to have the installation done by an "approved contractor" (who between them have "fixed" the prices to skim off as much as possible, and most certainly havnt got MY interests at heart...stuff em...I'l generate enough for my own needs and no more...

Then invest in a diesel generator to allow for cloudy spells, and Tesla type battery cells to cover your "base load" and nighttime power use..

tesla cells are nothing more than glorified lithium ion cells with multiple protective devices to stop the whole lot exploding...no thanks I'll stick with tried and tested lead acid cells untill that tech is somewhat more stable....I dont mind odd lithium cells...a lot of my small portable stuff is made or adapted to run on those...2, 4, 6 cells are easy to keep in order...beyond that god help you if something goes awry.. I really dont fancy 3000 Amp hours worth of lithium cells trying to imitate a saturn five. Yes ther have been accidents with lead acid...but only if you are a pelargonium (thats one worse than a geranium)

IF you receive enough sunlight annually to support such a long term outlook  ?

Handy Andy wrote:Makes you wonder how that fat fuck Trump  still thinks it's  a Chinese  conspiracy.

Donald Trump says he is “not a big believer in global warming.” He has called it “a total hoax,” “bullshit” and “pseudoscience.”

But he is also trying to build a sea wall designed to protect one of his golf courses from “global warming and its effects.”

The New York billionaire is applying for permission to erect a coastal protection works to prevent erosion at his seaside golf resort, Trump International Golf Links & Hotel Ireland, in County Clare.

A permit application for the wall, filed by Trump International Golf Links Ireland and reviewed by POLITICO, explicitly cites global warming and its consequences — increased erosion due to rising sea levels and extreme weather this century — as a chief justification for building the structure.

Tommy Monk wrote:

http://www.asahi.com/sp/ajw/articles/AJ201611070028.html


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/24/tokyo-hit-first-november-snow-54-years/

Tommy Monk wrote:Are you saying the reports of snow in Japan are lies...?