Jeremy Hunt Told To ‘Get A Grip’ After Saying NHS Must Find £22bn In Savings

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“What happened to the extra £350m a week?”

Labour has called on Jeremy Hunt to “get a grip” on NHS funding after the health secretary said he still needs to find billions in efficiency savings by 2020. 

On the BBC’s Today Programme Hunt confirmed he was “putting together plans” to find £22bn in efficiency savings by 2020.

Hunt’s words appeared to confirm reports that Theresa May had told health chiefs the NHS would receive no extra money as a result of Brexit.

Labour’s Jonathan Ashworth said the move was “not good enough” and the government needed to “take action”.

“This situation is of the Tories’ own making and it’s about time they woke up and took action to get a grip on this crisis”, he said. 

“The Tory government saying there will be no more funding for our NHS simply isn’t good enough.”





Leave campaign bus

He called on Hunt to honour NHS promises made by the Leave campaign and in the Tory manifesto:
“What happened to the extra £350m a week we were promised by Boris Johnson and Liam Fox?”, he said.
“The NHS is in crisis with A&E and GP waiting times soaring, with 1 in 4 now having to wait a week or more to see their GP or not getting an appointment at all, and serious staff shortages being exacerbated by training places being cut and nurse bursaries scrapped.”
“The Tories promised during the last election they’d properly fund our NHS. This is yet another example of Tory broken promises.”




 Chris Ham, Chief Executive of The King’s Fund, said meeting demand was “impossible” with current NHS funds, and that Hunt’s approach “misses the point”:

“It is becoming clear that senior politicians do not yet fully understand the impact on patients of the huge pressures facing the NHS. The view from the top of government appears to be that the NHS has been given the extra money it asked for and should deliver what is expected of it”, he said.

“But this misses the point that demand for services is rising rapidly and the NHS is currently halfway through the most austere decade in its history.”

He warned that healthcare was at a “pivotal time” and that funding targets are being missed “all year round”.

“This reflects the impossible task of continuing to meet rising demand for services and maintain standards of care within current funding constraints”, he said.

The government’s claim that the NHS will receive an additional £10 billion by 2020 was criticised in a recent select committee report, which found some of of the cash would merely be shifted between areas of the heath service.

Yesterday the head of the body representing NHS trusts warned that the savings some areas had been told to find by 2021 were “so aggressive” that entire hospitals could also be closed.

First to be axed will be maternity wards and accident and emergency units, as part of 44 “sustainability and transformation plans” that will be submitted to NHS England this week.



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The Tories doing everthing they can to run down the NHS and make sure their mates make a fortune out of private health care.   Never mind what that does to the rest of the population.   They have been underfunding it on purpose every since they came to power and selling it off.   Huge numbers of people voted for Brexit because they believed the lie that it would mean more money for the NHS (pretty stupid of them to believe, but they did, in droves).   Now the people who promised it cynically say 'surely you didn't actually believe that?  Sorry mate, you've been had!'   And they have.

Handy Andy wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

That didn't influence me because I didn't see it.

It's  there for all to see now on Sassy's Op.
It made the national news headlines for a week on every tv and newspaper for a week.
The masseage is clear and unambiguous.
It was also a GREAT BIG FUCKING LIE.

I must have missed the news that week.

Tommy Monk wrote:Hand shandy... did you think that voting leave meant giving the NHS  £350 million extra a week instead of continuing to give it to the eu...!?

I suspected it was a con and a ruse because those words came directly from Farage's lips.
Which is why they paid to have it printed big and bold on the bus.
Have you seen the picture?

Tommy Monk wrote:

She already knows that...

Makes you wonder why she supported Remain then.

Handy Andy wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Hand shandy... did you think that voting leave meant giving the NHS  £350 million extra a week instead of continuing to give it to the eu...!?

I suspected it was a con and a ruse because those words came directly from Farage's lips.
Which is why they paid to have it printed big and bold on the bus.
Have you seen the picture?

Farage wasn't in the official leave campaign... nor was he anything to do with the bus...


In fact... Farage clearly laid out the details about this '350 million'...


I posted these details earlier... and the leave campaign were also extensively grilled about it and gave the details too...




How much did you think we gave to the eu every week...?

It would be interesting to see a graph of the rising cost of the nhs and the numbers of immigration
superimposed.....

but I bet thats one of those "hidden" ideas

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/06/watch-evidence-nigel-farage-said-money-sent-eu-should-go-nhs

Farage wasn't part of the official leave campaign...


And he was clear about how much goes to the eu and how much we get back...


http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/26/footage-shows-nigel-farage-pledging-eu-money-to-nhs-before-he-distanced-himself-from-the-claim-5967094/

If you're not part of ISIS but you stand shoulder to shoulder with their aims then you're still a scumbag.

If you are against the uk parliament having total sovereignty and being completely controlled by the uk people by democratic process... then you are a traitor!!!


No analogy needed...

Tommy Monk wrote:

If you are against the uk parliament having total sovereignty and being completely controlled by the uk people by democratic process... then you are a traitor!!!


No analogy needed...

Ha, ha, ha - oh how will I sleep at nights?

Tommy Monk wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


The £350 million a week was clearly set out...

We give the eu that amount overall but then the eu gives done of it back in grants and subsidies... but only some of it... and the eu are the ones who decide where and how that money is spent... nearly £200 million a week of that money never comes back to uk... it goes to the eu and we never see if again.


We voted to stop giving the money to the eu and to decide ourselves what to do with it.


Obviously some of the money would continue to go into uk subsidies and grants... but it would be for us to decide... and the rest of the money stays at home too!!!


Some of which could be used to put extra money into the NHS!!!


This was all made very clear before the vote!!!


It is only pro eu lefties who were too stupid to understand this and thought 350 million a week was bring promised to the NHS...as they keep showing by bleating on about it when it was never said!!!

Oh... and another point... it was the idiot pro eu numpties who thought the NHS could get extra  £350million a week by leaving the eu... but still voted to stay in the eu and keep giving the money to the eu instead... and bollocks to the NHS!!!

You really are Head Idiot in the School to Produce the Biggest Idiot.   We KNEW THEY WERE LYING AND THERE WAS NOT GOING TO BE £350MILLION A WEEK FOR THE NHS.   Only numbnuts like you fell for it and believed it.   And unfortunately, Britain appears to have a large number of numbnuts, racists and frigging idiots.

Everybody knew there wasn't going to be 350 million a week extra given to the NHS!!!


The figure was about how much was given to the eu every week!!!


And it was made crystal clear that we got about a third of that given back to us as grants and subsidies!!!


But that still leaves 35 million a day given to the eu that we never saw again!!!



The vote to leave was about much more than just this money!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:Everybody knew there wasn't going to be 350 million a week extra given to the NHS!!!


The figure was about how much was given to the eu every week!!!


And it was made crystal clear that we got about a third of that given back to us as grants and subsidies!!!


But that still leaves 35 million a day given to the eu that we never saw again!!!



The vote to leave was about much more than just this money!!!

What planet are you on!   They absolutely PROMISED IT WOULD GO TO THE NHS and many people voted to leave because of that promise.   But you go ahead and lie to yourself so you can sleep at night.

People voted leave to get control of our country and our democracy back!!!


Stop moaning!!!

Nope, one of the main reasons that swayed it was the NHS, and THAT WAS A BIG FAT LIE

Wrong... the money was heavily discussed...


People voted to take back control of our country/democracy/borders and the money...


One of the suggestions was that we could use some of it to put extra into nhs... but we needed to leave eu to have the ability to vote on what govt we have and what they would do with it!!!

Wrong, it was an absolute promise and an absolute LIE to get people to vote for Brexit.

You obviously approve of politicians lying Tommy.   Why am I not surprised by that.

You are full of shite!!!


And if you had any brains you would have voted out of eu too!!!

I'm afraid the ones that are full of shit are the ones who lied.

And the ones who ate the shit are the ones that actually believed them

sassy wrote:I'm afraid the ones that are full of shit are the ones who lied.

And the ones who ate the shit are the ones that actually believed them

Very sad that the Sunderland massive should be led to believe that their life of squalor and poverty should be improved by nonsense like "we got our country back". The poor sods don't own a thimblefull of precious country.

Ziz wrote:

sassy wrote:I'm afraid the ones that are full of shit are the ones who lied.

And the ones who ate the shit are the ones that actually believed them

Very sad that the Sunderland massive should be led to believe that their life of squalor and poverty should be improved by nonsense like "we got our country back". The poor sods don't own a thimbleful of precious country.  

Nail, head.   And the ones that DO own it are the ones who are going to make even more money out of this chaos - another offshore account old man, and do pass the port!

The Remainians were lying... the wankers who have been handing over our national powers/sovereignty bit by bit over the last 40 years have been lying...


The idiots who voted for this treachery to continue and against our country to have parliamentary sovereignty and democratic control by the British people are the ones who need to have a long hard look at themselves...!!!

sassy wrote:

Ziz wrote:

Very sad that the Sunderland massive should be led to believe that their life of squalor and poverty should be improved by nonsense like "we got our country back". The poor sods don't own a thimbleful of precious country.  

Nail, head.   And the ones that DO own it are the ones who are going to make even more money out of this chaos - another offshore account old man, and do pass the port!

Divide and rule - same old, same old.

Ziz wrote:

sassy wrote:


Nail, head.   And the ones that DO own it are the ones who are going to make even more money out of this chaos - another offshore account old man, and do pass the port!

Divide and rule - same old, same old.

Yep, wouldn't it be wonderful if just for once they twigged that and decided not to allow themselves to be used.   Just for a few months to give the world a break!

sassy wrote:

Ziz wrote:

Divide and rule - same old, same old.

Yep, wouldn't it be wonderful if just for once they twigged that and decided not to allow themselves to be used.   Just for a few months to give the world a break!

Sure would - ahhhh!

Sassy... please try thinking for a moment...


You don't get a chance to change anything if you give away the powers to change anything...


We need control over our country and our parliament and our democracy to be able to do anything here to change anything here and to be able to change things anywhere else!!!


Don't you understand how fundamentally important it is for us to have democracy and democratic control over our country!!!???


I honestly find it hard to believe how someone as vocal as you about the need for people to have political control and against the rich avoiding taxes and big corporations taking over etc... is so in favour of giving our national political control away to unelected beurocrats in Brussels who are hand in hand with the big corporations!!!???

IT WOULDN'T be too difficult for the British Parliament to make up the shortfall in funding for health, education and welfare...

IF they really wanted to..

ALL they would need to do is close up a few of those fiscal loopholes that continues to allow corporations, the ultra rich, and the ruling classes, to get away with so much unearned and undeserved tax avoidance, lurks and perks, and outright legalised theft.

sassy wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Everybody knew there wasn't going to be 350 million a week extra given to the NHS!!!


The figure was about how much was given to the eu every week!!!


And it was made crystal clear that we got about a third of that given back to us as grants and subsidies!!!


But that still leaves 35 million a day given to the eu that we never saw again!!!



The vote to leave was about much more than just this money!!!

What planet are you on!   They absolutely PROMISED IT WOULD GO TO THE NHS and many people voted to leave because of that promise.   But you go ahead and lie to yourself so you can sleep at night.

Who promised that, and how do you know why people voted to leave? I don't think people really thought that's what they were saying, or that it made them vote to leave. You want to think that because it suits you to do so.

Tommy, you think black people are more prone to crime, you've mad that clear -- or at least as clear as you're brave enough to do.

Oh, and Tommy, did you miss the bus?

The crime statistics and prison numbers show blacks are responsible for a much higher and disproportionate level of crime...


The figures speak for themselves...


And what bus are you talking about? I don't travel by bus...