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Post by Ben Reilly Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:13 am

HOUSTON (AP) — A disgruntled lawyer wearing military-style apparel with old Nazi emblems had two weapons and more than 2,500 rounds of live ammunition when he randomly shot at drivers in a Houston neighborhood Monday before he was shot and killed by police, authorities said.

Nine people were injured during Monday morning's shootings on the street in front of a condo complex; six were shot and three had eye injuries from flying glass. One person was in critical condition and another in serious condition, officials said.

Houston Homicide Capt. Dwayne Ready and Interim Police Chief Martha Montalvo did not identify the man and did not have information about a motive. A bomb-squad robot examined a Porsche that police said belonged to the gunman; Texas motor vehicle records in a commercially available database showed the car is licensed to Nathan DeSai at an address in the condo complex.

The property manager of the condo complex also confirmed that police were going through DeSai's residence, where Ready said vintage military items dating to the Civil War and other guns were found in the man's apartment.

Authorities first received reports of the shootings about 6:30 a.m., and the man began firing at officers when they arrived. The man had two legally purchased guns — a .45-caliber semi-automatic handgun and a semi-automatic rifle commonly known as a Tommy gun —and an unsheathed knife, Ready said. He also noted that there were 75 spent casings at the scene, which were from officers and the gunman.

Ready said nine officers — five with the Houston Police Department and four with two other local agencies — "engaged the suspect who was shooting randomly at passersby as well as anybody he could put his sights on."

During the shootout, one driver was shot and one of the officers "left cover to take that citizen to safety while the other officers engaged the subject," he said.

Mayor Sylvester Turner told KTRK-TV in Houston that DeSai was a lawyer who was "disgruntled" and was "either fired or had a bad relationship with this law firm." But DeSai's former law partner, Kenneth McDaniel, disputed that assertion, saying they jointly closed their 12-year-old law firm in February due to economic conditions related to Houston's energy industry downturn.

McDaniel also said he hadn't had contact with DeSai lately and that police called him Monday morning to check on his safety, though they didn't explain why.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-shoot-active-shooter-strip-mall-houston-125005467.html



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Post by 'Wolfie Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:00 am

Suspect

Those good ol' boy god(less)-fearing nutjobs and anti-guvm'nt militias were always America's leading source of home-grown terrorists, until those new_kids_on_the_block al Qaeda and more recently ISIS linked thug nutters appeared...

This incident just goes to show that the old faithful white bread nutters are still out there, and haven't retired or stepped aside..         bom
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Post by nicko Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:24 am

Whats a"bread" nutter? does he steal bread, fcuk loaves? Laughing
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Post by magica Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:16 pm

nicko wrote:Whats a"bread"   nutter?     does he steal bread,     fcuk loaves? Laughing

Hahahaha Laughing

Maybe he cant earn a crust tongue
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:36 pm



"...Elmore told Eyewitness News for the last two months, Desai's behavior had been erratic. He seemed paranoid and thought someone was "out to get him", Elmore said.

The problems started August 4th, when Desai confronted roofers with a gun. He told police he thought someone was breaking into his condo, but Elmore says it was a long-term project and residents were properly notified.


"They [roofers] were scared for their life. They called their boss and said somebody pointed directly at them, yelled something they didn't know what it was, but they felt like they were going to get shot," Elmore said.

Desai was not charged. In a news conference Monday afternoon, Houston police said they have no record of a call concerning Desai or his address.

Then, last week, Desai called to complain about a plumbing issue, but wouldn't let anyone in and then became defensive, according to Elmore, when questioned about it..."

http://abc13.com/news/weslayan-shooting-who-is-nathan-desai/1526983/



Sounds like this man was definitely suffering from mental health issues...

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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:20 am

Oh, it's always a mental health issue, or it's only a few, or Christianity is a religion of peace. Stop appeasing these barbarians, because the truth is always simple.
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Post by Tommy Monk Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:29 pm

Look at the mans behaviour over previous couple months...
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Post by Tommy Monk Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:34 pm




And he's actually of Indian origin...


Don't know about his religious beliefs... but desai is a well known hindu name... although he could be a Muslim...


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Post by The Devil, You Know Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:40 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:Oh, it's always a mental health issue, or it's only a few, or Christianity is a religion of peace. Stop appeasing these barbarians, because the truth is always simple.
did he do it in the name of Christianity? I am not sure what terrorist group he could pledge allegiance to in the name of christ.
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Post by Guest Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:55 pm

You aren't?

The Christian Identity movement specifically combines white supremacist ideology with Christianist terrorism, arguing that violence against non-WASPs is ordained by God and that white Anglo Saxon Protestants are God’s chosen people. The modern Christian Identity movement in the U.S. has been greatly influenced by the Ku Klux Klan—an organization that has committed numerous acts of terrorism over the years—and in the 1970s, new Christian Identity groups like the Aryan Nations and the Covenant, the Sword and the Arm of the Lord (CSA) emerged. Another Christian Identity group of recent decades has been the Phineas Priesthood, whose members have been involved in violent activities ranging from abortion clinic bombings to bank robberies (mainly in the Pacific Northwest). On November 28, 2014, Phineas Priesthood member Larry Steven McQuilliams went on a violent rampage in Austin, Texas—where he fired over 100 rounds at various targets (including a federal courthouse, the local Mexican Consulate building and a police station) before being shot and killed by police.

http://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_modern_day_christian_terrorist_groups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/

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Post by The Devil, You Know Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:59 pm

sassy wrote:You aren't?

The Christian Identity movement specifically combines white supremacist ideology with Christianist terrorism, arguing that violence against non-WASPs is ordained by God and that white Anglo Saxon Protestants are God’s chosen people. The modern Christian Identity movement in the U.S. has been greatly influenced by the Ku Klux Klan—an organization that has committed numerous acts of terrorism over the years—and in the 1970s, new Christian Identity groups like the Aryan Nations and the Covenant, the Sword and the Arm of the Lord (CSA) emerged. Another Christian Identity group of recent decades has been the Phineas Priesthood, whose members have been involved in violent activities ranging from abortion clinic bombings to bank robberies (mainly in the Pacific Northwest). On November 28, 2014, Phineas Priesthood member Larry Steven McQuilliams went on a violent rampage in Austin, Texas—where he fired over 100 rounds at various targets (including a federal courthouse, the local Mexican Consulate building and a police station) before being shot and killed by police.

http://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_modern_day_christian_terrorist_groups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/
can you show where he pledged allegiance to any of those groups?
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Post by The Devil, You Know Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:02 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
HOUSTON (AP) — A disgruntled lawyer wearing military-style apparel with old Nazi emblems had two weapons and more than 2,500 rounds of live ammunition when he randomly shot at drivers in a Houston neighborhood Monday before he was shot and killed by police, authorities said.

Nine people were injured during Monday morning's shootings on the street in front of a condo complex; six were shot and three had eye injuries from flying glass. One person was in critical condition and another in serious condition, officials said.

Houston Homicide Capt. Dwayne Ready and Interim Police Chief Martha Montalvo did not identify the man and did not have information about a motive. A bomb-squad robot examined a Porsche that police said belonged to the gunman; Texas motor vehicle records in a commercially available database showed the car is licensed to Nathan DeSai at an address in the condo complex.

The property manager of the condo complex also confirmed that police were going through DeSai's residence, where Ready said vintage military items dating to the Civil War and other guns were found in the man's apartment.

Authorities first received reports of the shootings about 6:30 a.m., and the man began firing at officers when they arrived. The man had two legally purchased guns — a .45-caliber semi-automatic handgun and a semi-automatic rifle commonly known as a Tommy gun —and an unsheathed knife, Ready said. He also noted that there were 75 spent casings at the scene, which were from officers and the gunman.

Ready said nine officers — five with the Houston Police Department and four with two other local agencies — "engaged the suspect who was shooting randomly at passersby as well as anybody he could put his sights on."

During the shootout, one driver was shot and one of the officers "left cover to take that citizen to safety while the other officers engaged the subject," he said.

Mayor Sylvester Turner told KTRK-TV in Houston that DeSai was a lawyer who was "disgruntled" and was "either fired or had a bad relationship with this law firm." But DeSai's former law partner, Kenneth McDaniel, disputed that assertion, saying they jointly closed their 12-year-old law firm in February due to economic conditions related to Houston's energy industry downturn.

McDaniel also said he hadn't had contact with DeSai lately and that police called him Monday morning to check on his safety, though they didn't explain why.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-shoot-active-shooter-strip-mall-houston-125005467.html



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nope read it a couple of times and cannot see a reference to christian or doing it in the name of jesus.
sounds like you have issues
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Post by Guest Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:14 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
sassy wrote:You aren't?

The Christian Identity movement specifically combines white supremacist ideology with Christianist terrorism, arguing that violence against non-WASPs is ordained by God and that white Anglo Saxon Protestants are God’s chosen people. The modern Christian Identity movement in the U.S. has been greatly influenced by the Ku Klux Klan—an organization that has committed numerous acts of terrorism over the years—and in the 1970s, new Christian Identity groups like the Aryan Nations and the Covenant, the Sword and the Arm of the Lord (CSA) emerged. Another Christian Identity group of recent decades has been the Phineas Priesthood, whose members have been involved in violent activities ranging from abortion clinic bombings to bank robberies (mainly in the Pacific Northwest). On November 28, 2014, Phineas Priesthood member Larry Steven McQuilliams went on a violent rampage in Austin, Texas—where he fired over 100 rounds at various targets (including a federal courthouse, the local Mexican Consulate building and a police station) before being shot and killed by police.

http://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_modern_day_christian_terrorist_groups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/
can you show where he pledged allegiance to any of those groups?


I never said he did.   I was educating you are you appeared not to know of any RW Christian terrorist groups in the USA.   Always good to learn.

Your words were: I am not sure what terrorist group he could pledge allegiance to in the name of christ.

Just pointing out there are quite a few.

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Post by Original Quill Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:34 pm

America's first terrorist group, the ku klux klan, was a Christian group:

Huffington Post wrote:We don’t hate people because of their race, I mean, we’re a Christian organization,” Frank Ancona, the group’s Imperial Wizard, told Virginia’s NBC 12 on Thursday.

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Post by eddie Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:53 pm

From what I've seen and read, white Christian groups in the USA (not so over here) are very aggressive.

Isn't the Ayran brotherhood, a Christian group?
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Post by The Devil, You Know Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:55 pm

Original Quill wrote:America's first terrorist group, the ku klux klan, was a Christian group:

Huffington Post wrote:We don’t hate people because of their race, I mean, we’re a Christian organization,” Frank Ancona, the group’s Imperial Wizard, told Virginia’s NBC 12 on Thursday.
and a democrat one
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Post by The Devil, You Know Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:56 pm

eddie wrote:From what I've seen and read, white Christian groups in the USA (not so over here) are very aggressive.

Isn't the Ayran brotherhood, a Christian group?  
they are a lot of nazi gangsters.
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Post by Tommy Monk Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:58 pm

Why does this thread title say this...?


"Houston shooter was a white Christian right-wing nutjob who did it for Jesus*"


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When the man was of Indian origin... and there is no mention of him being a Christian or that he did anything for Jesus...!?


Also... it was said that he had a jacket on with a 'Nazi emblem' of some sort... and this made him a 'right wing nutjob'...


Is there any evidence of this 'emblem'...?


Can anyone provide a picture of this alleged 'emblem'...?






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Post by Original Quill Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:02 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Original Quill wrote:America's first terrorist group, the ku klux klan, was a Christian group:


and a democrat one

Not quite true.  I think what you really mean is, a southern one.  Yes, from the Civil War to the year 1964, the Democrats had the south.  But then Lee Atwater came along and developed the Southern Strategy for the Republican Party.

Atwater, in the post-Civil Rights Act days, taught Republicans:

Lee Atwater wrote:You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”

https://www.thenation.com/article/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy/

The Republican Party embraced the racism of the South, in much the same way as Donald Trump embraced David Duke originally.

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Post by The Devil, You Know Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:59 pm

Houston gunman had 2 weapons, thousands of rounds at scene Lbj-racist-quotes
he may or may not have said that but it would not have been out of character to utter it.

one LBJ rumour is where he fucked kennedy in the head after he had been shot.
that one was doing the rounds way back in the 60's
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Post by eddie Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:30 pm

He fucked him in the head? Literally? scratch
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Post by Original Quill Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:49 am

The Devil, You Know wrote:Houston gunman had 2 weapons, thousands of rounds at scene Lbj-racist-quotes
he may or may not have said that but it would not have been out of character to utter it.

one LBJ rumour is  where he fucked kennedy in the head after he had been shot.
that one was doing the rounds way back in the 60's

You prove my point. The year 1964 was the year that LBJ was first elected president, and that's the year that Republicans starting eyeing the southern vote.

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Post by Original Quill Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:54 am

eddie wrote:He fucked him in the head? Literally? scratch

...while administering cunnilingus to Jackie back in the baggage compartment? Air Force One was a bit of a party palace back in the day. tongue tongue

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Post by Ben Reilly Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:37 am

I had a dark complected grand-uncle who was nicknamed "Nig." The culture was different in those days.

Johnson expanded civil liberties for black people more than any president, literally, besides Lincoln.

Of all of our presidents, his Administration is outstanding. Whereas one president might boast of one piece of legislation, or another president might boast as our beloved Dwight Eisenhower did, of the 1957 Civil Rights Bill. Well, the 1957 Civil Rights Bill compared to 1964 Civil Rights Bill was merely a sliver and yet Mr. Johnson created, or helped Kennedy to create and saw to the enactment of the 1964 Act. And it was Mr. Johnson who conceived the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and the Fair Housing Act of 1968, with its attendant business about juries and selections and so forth. Mr. Johnson’s emphasis on the right of an American to vote and his acceptance of the idea that federal registrars ought to be sent into counties which have demonstrated since Reconstruction days as they had practically—they had done everything to discourage Negroes from registering to vote.

- Roy Wilkins was a prominent civil rights activist in the United States from the 1930s to the 1970s. Wilkins' most notable role was in his leadership of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.
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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:10 pm

The thread title is false and Christianophobic.
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Post by eddie Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:16 pm

Have they discovered he wasn't white/Christian/nutjob or all three?
I'll correct it if needs be. I hadn't checked.
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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:20 pm

eddie wrote:Have they discovered he wasn't white/Christian/nutjob or all three?
I'll correct it if needs be. I hadn't checked.

I don't know if he was white or Christian, and I can't find any reference to him doing anything in the name of Jesus. He was a lawyer though. Perhaps the thread title should mention that.
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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:23 pm

Ben knows the title was false - he calls it "satire". In reality, he's just showing his bigotry against Christians.
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Post by Tommy Monk Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:27 pm

This man was of Indian origin... and his name 'Desai' is a common hindu name...


There is nothing in the op article, or any other articles i have seen, that says he was white, or Christian, or any reference to Jesus being his motivation...


And I'm still waiting for someone to provide any evidence of the claim that he was wearing any 'Nazi emblem/insignia' on his jacket...?



But it is a handy bit of bullshit to divert attention away from the recent spate of terrorist attacks by the Muslims...





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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:34 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:This man was of Indian origin... and his name 'Desai' is a common hindu name...


There is nothing in the op article, or any other articles i have seen, that says he was white, or Christian, or any reference to Jesus being his motivation...


And I'm still waiting for someone to provide any evidence of the claim that he was wearing any 'Nazi emblem/insignia' on his jacket...?



But it is a handy bit of bullshit to divert attention away from the recent spate of terrorist attacks by the Muslims...






It's just "revenge" for the threads about Muslims. However, there's no need for Ben for pick on another religion in order to defend another, or to lie about an incident.
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Post by The Devil, You Know Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:14 pm

eddie wrote:Have they discovered he wasn't white/Christian/nutjob or all three?
I'll correct it if needs be. I hadn't checked.
there is no mention of him being a christian or jesus in the thread link.
if anything he is more likely to be jewish as he was in a jewish fraternity at collage, but then his fathers name was Prakash DeSai, so he might have been of indian extraction
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Post by Tommy Monk Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:25 pm


Why do some on here behave so weirdly/angrily/hostile towards others here for talking about terrorist attacks carried out by Muslims in the name of their religious beliefs...!?


But they never seem to be angry at the Muslims who carried out the attacks...?


In fact... they always seem to be trying their hardest to put up denialis/deflections/excuses around every single one of the attacks instead...!


They never seem to show any concern for the victims of any of the attacks either... unless they are able to find a story about how a Muslim was slightly injured/inconvenienced in some way... and only then will they make a big point of making a point out of any of it at all... they usually just try to tell us about how Muslims are the real victims by what the negative press is doing to their 'reputation/image'...!


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Post by eddie Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:25 pm

I've changed the title of the thread to the heading that's given in the link.
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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:10 am

eddie wrote:I've changed the title of the thread to the heading that's given in the link.

Thank you eddie. Houston gunman had 2 weapons, thousands of rounds at scene 2984306523
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Post by eddie Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:02 pm

Major you really chat shit.
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Post by Original Quill Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:30 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:This man was of Indian origin... and his name 'Desai' is a common hindu name...

There is nothing in the op article, or any other articles i have seen, that says he was white, or Christian, or any reference to Jesus being his motivation...

And I'm still waiting for someone to provide any evidence of the claim that he was wearing any 'Nazi emblem/insignia' on his jacket...?

But it is a handy bit of bullshit to divert attention away from the recent spate of terrorist attacks by the Muslims...

It's just "revenge" for the threads about Muslims. However, there's no need for Ben for pick on another religion in order to defend another, or to lie about an incident.

I think it's a legitimate point. It's called analogy. You analogize by juxtaposing another (in this case) religion, and see if the same values appertain. Good argument form, I say, because it teaches us to think rationally and abstractly, rather than just considering whose ox is being gored.

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Post by Original Quill Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:33 pm

eddie wrote:Major you really chat shit.

He does dive right into the toilet rather easily. Laughing

But that's what you get when you are more concerned about whose ox is gored, than you are about serious reasoning.

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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:14 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

It's just "revenge" for the threads about Muslims. However, there's no need for Ben for pick on another religion in order to defend another, or to lie about an incident.

I think it's a legitimate point.  It's called analogy.  You analogize by juxtaposing another (in this case) religion, and see if the same values appertain.  Good argument form, I say, because it teaches us to think rationally and abstractly, rather than just considering whose ox is being gored.

It's not a legitimate point if it's false - it's just a falsehood.
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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:21 pm



So... this man in op was not white... or a christian... wasn't doing anything for Jesus... and still no evidence of the 'Nazi emblem/insignia' he was claimed to be wearing on jacket...!!!???



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Post by Ben Reilly Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:40 pm

Looks like he was actually Jewish.
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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:53 pm

Yeah... right...!!!

A Jewish Nazi...!!!???

You claimed he had a 'Nazi emblem/insignia' on his jacket!!!

Any evidence of this...???


From what I've read... he was not 'white' at all... as he was of Indian origin!!!

'Desai' is an Indian name and a predominantly hindu surname!!!
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Post by eddie Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:57 pm

So many question marks and exclamation marks?????!!!!
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