Is it time Victorias secret started to feature full figured women?

Major wrote:A few yearz back I spent hours in Caesars Palace Vegas sitting outside Victorias Secrets crying awaiting my wife and dorta who were inside spending spending spending.

Syl wrote:High end fashion houses still feature tiny waif this models to advertise their clothes. There is a call for bigger buxom models to be hired to show off fashion and lingerie.....look at them, what do you think...and is there a size limit on who looks good and who sells clothes?

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/lifestyle/style/16-plus-size-models-victorias-secret-should-hire/ss-BBq6Zzh?ocid=spartanntp#image=1

The Devil, You Know wrote:

Syl wrote:High end fashion houses still feature tiny waif this models to advertise their clothes. There is a call for bigger buxom models to be hired to show off fashion and lingerie.....look at them, what do you think...and is there a size limit on who looks good and who sells clothes?

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/lifestyle/style/16-plus-size-models-victorias-secret-should-hire/ss-BBq6Zzh?ocid=spartanntp#image=1

as a private business it should be up to them to decide who models their clothes. They should not be forced to choose any models fat or thin.
I'm guessing that most ladies imagine they are going to look like a VS model when they strap on the underwear.

Ben Reilly wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
as a private business it should be up to them to decide who models their clothes. They should not be forced to choose any models fat or thin.
I'm guessing that most ladies imagine they are going to look like a VS model when they strap on the underwear.

The public has every right to petition a private enterprise to change its practices.

The Devil, You Know wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
as a private business it should be up to them to decide who models their clothes. They should not be forced to choose any models fat or thin.
I'm guessing that most ladies imagine they are going to look like a VS model when they strap on the underwear.

The public has every right to petition a private enterprise to change its practices.

yes they do, they dont have a right to force them employ specific model types though.

eddie wrote:This is the thing: clothes look great on hangers - in fact, that's when they look their best. So they are designed, effectively to hang from thin shoulders and fall down and brush against nothing. That's why they use these thin models, who have no lumps or bumps.

When they want to sell a raunchy bra, they used bigger ladies, to highlight their product.

Personally, they should use a size 12, 14 and 16. I'm a size 10 and I think I looked better when I was a 12 tbh.
Sizes 12-16 are about the average for the UK, I'd say?

Ben Reilly wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
yes they do, they dont have a right to force them employ specific model types though.

The public has every right to force a business to do whatever the public wants through market forces; for example, a boycott. If the public cares enough about this issue, it has every right to put VS out of business if it doesn't change its ways.

You can't find a pet store where I live now, and why? Because people cared enough about how the animals were treated that they turned to adopting pets from rescues (and their friends and neighbors, of course).

If you're saying the public shouldn't petition government to write a law banning thin models, I'm with you there, but the public can put VS out of business if it cares enough about the issue of underweight models, by voting with its money.

The Devil, You Know wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

The public has every right to force a business to do whatever the public wants through market forces; for example, a boycott. If the public cares enough about this issue, it has every right to put VS out of business if it doesn't change its ways.

You can't find a pet store where I live now, and why? Because people cared enough about how the animals were treated that they turned to adopting pets from rescues (and their friends and neighbors, of course).

If you're saying the public shouldn't petition government to write a law banning thin models, I'm with you there, but the public can put VS out of business if it cares enough about the issue of underweight models, by voting with its money.

through market forces by all means, women of the chubbier type (or american as they are more popularly  known) could always refuse to buy their clothing.

the thing is though, it does not appear the public care as much as the fatties do.

Major wrote:VS is a successful firm, they know what they are doing.

Those who wanna grouse can go to M&S or Bravissimo as long as they take their own scaffolding.

eddie wrote:Sex appeal isn't in clothes, or size, or looks.
It comes from within.

Major wrote:VS is a successful firm, they know what they are doing.

Those who wanna grouse can go to M&S or Bravissimo as long as they take their own scaffolding.

Syl wrote:

Major wrote:VS is a successful firm, they know what they are doing.

Those who wanna grouse can go to M&S or Bravissimo as long as they take their own scaffolding.

Oy do you mind...  I have a few M&S bras and they are lovely.

Syl wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

The public has every right to force a business to do whatever the public wants through market forces; for example, a boycott. If the public cares enough about this issue, it has every right to put VS out of business if it doesn't change its ways.

You can't find a pet store where I live now, and why? Because people cared enough about how the animals were treated that they turned to adopting pets from rescues (and their friends and neighbors, of course).

If you're saying the public shouldn't petition government to write a law banning thin models, I'm with you there, but the public can put VS out of business if it cares enough about the issue of underweight models, by voting with its money.

through market forces by all means, women of the chubbier type (or american as they are more popularly  known) could always refuse to buy their clothing.

the thing is though, it does not appear the public care as much as the fatties do.

Ooooh Bitchy  

Syl wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

The public has every right to force a business to do whatever the public wants through market forces; for example, a boycott. If the public cares enough about this issue, it has every right to put VS out of business if it doesn't change its ways.

You can't find a pet store where I live now, and why? Because people cared enough about how the animals were treated that they turned to adopting pets from rescues (and their friends and neighbors, of course).

If you're saying the public shouldn't petition government to write a law banning thin models, I'm with you there, but the public can put VS out of business if it cares enough about the issue of underweight models, by voting with its money.

through market forces by all means, women of the chubbier type (or american as they are more popularly  known) could always refuse to buy their clothing.

the thing is though, it does not appear the public care as much as the fatties do.

Ooooh Bitchy  

I think you are probably right. If the public cared enough they would stop buying ...they do buy, and obviously enough to convince these fashion houses that skinny sells.
I think a lot of brain washing goes on in fashion.....women are sold the idea that they to will look good in the skimpy undies, unfortunately a lacy extravaganza in a size 10 wont look the same in a size 20.....but if the woman feels good, job done.

I still think some of the bigger girls in the OP look sexier than skinny girls though.

Syl wrote:High end fashion houses still feature tiny waif this models to advertise their clothes. There is a call for bigger buxom models to be hired to show off fashion and lingerie.....look at them, what do you think...and is there a size limit on who looks good and who sells clothes?

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/lifestyle/style/16-plus-size-models-victorias-secret-should-hire/ss-BBq6Zzh?ocid=spartanntp#image=1

eddie wrote:Because of glossy ads and airbrushing and the stupid sizes women are supposed to be, there are so many young pre-pubescent girls on diets and moaning about their body fat.
It's quite disturbing. As the mother of a daughter, I make sure I never treat (lack of) food as a means of starving myself but as a healthy way to live.  So many mums don't realise that children copy their eating habits.

Ben Reilly wrote:

Syl wrote:

Ooooh Bitchy  

I think you are probably right. If the public cared enough they would stop buying ...they do buy, and obviously enough to convince these fashion houses that skinny sells.
I think a lot of brain washing goes on in fashion.....women are sold the idea that they to will look good in the skimpy undies, unfortunately a lacy extravaganza in a size 10 wont look the same in a size 20.....but if the woman feels good, job done.

I still think some of the bigger girls in the OP look sexier than skinny girls though.

It's all advertising, and advertising is deceptive pretty much as a rule.

I remember when an ad section my newspaper publishes put out an ad for a clinic that supposedly treated varicose veins. The model they used for the photo turned out to be 16 years old.

eddie wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
as a private business it should be up to them to decide who models their clothes. They should not be forced to choose any models fat or thin.
I'm guessing that most ladies imagine they are going to look like a VS model when they strap on the underwear.

The public has every right to petition a private enterprise to change its practices.

yes they do, they dont have a right to force them employ specific model types though.

Irn Bru wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
yes they do, they dont have a right to force them employ specific model types though.

But you believe supermarkets should be forced to do something about their policies on selling wonky fruit and vegetables but not when it comes to the welfare of human beings.

tut tut.

Syl wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
through market forces by all means, women of the chubbier type (or american as they are more popularly  known) could always refuse to buy their clothing.

the thing is though, it does not appear the public care as much as the fatties do.

Ooooh Bitchy  

I think you are probably right. If the public cared enough they would stop buying ...they do buy, and obviously enough to convince these fashion houses that skinny sells.
I think a lot of brain washing goes on in fashion.....women are sold the idea that they to will look good in the skimpy undies, unfortunately a lacy extravaganza in a size 10 wont look the same in a size 20.....but if the woman feels good, job done.

I still think some of the bigger girls in the OP look sexier than skinny girls though.

Ben Reilly wrote:

Syl wrote:

Ooooh Bitchy  

Yeah Dean, you seem pretty upset!

The Devil, You Know wrote:

Syl wrote:

Ooooh Bitchy  

I think you are probably right. If the public cared enough they would stop buying ...they do buy, and obviously enough to convince these fashion houses that skinny sells.
I think a lot of brain washing goes on in fashion.....women are sold the idea that they to will look good in the skimpy undies, unfortunately a lacy extravaganza in a size 10 wont look the same in a size 20.....but if the woman feels good, job done.

I still think some of the bigger girls in the OP look sexier than skinny girls though.

the thing is VS dont use stick thin models.