Why Should We Kill Every Stray Cat In Britain

Why we should KILL every stray cat in Britain: That's the deeply controversial conclusion of a new book. Here, in a piece that will appal millions, a naturalist backs a cull

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Who will kill all the rate????

ANOTHER crock-of-shite pseudo-science report from that paragon of truth, justice and whackjob stories, the 'Daily Flail'...

Certainly, there are too many stray and feral numbers of domestic varieties of felines on this planet -- and there sometimes there is the need for occasional culling of their numbers, especially in certain parts of the Americas and Australasia...

However, that isn't what this thinly-veiled fallaciois piece of catphobics wetdreams is attempting there.  Rather that pathetic example of scaremongering simply shows what happens when the cat hating fantasies of three certain fools are giving some public airtime.        


NOTE that the reporter refers to a couple of so called "experts" without actually telling us what fields they work in, what qualifications they have, or how they come up with those grossly inflated numbers for supposed wildlife kills..

For all we know, that British naturalist could have made up that American "expert" --  and what was their methodology for counting the kills ?
The there are the widely disparate differences in the supposed kill tallies for Britain and America --  are American cats really that much more hungry than British cats ?

The reporters anti-moggy feelings are then further exposed by his references to cats as "psychopathic" killers, and then his grossly exaggerated and misleading fear-mongering efforts in relation to the Toxoplasmosis parasites..        


His histrionic "reporting" looks more like publicity for the cat-eradication desires of three like minded cat haters, rather than any genuine attempt at reporting on any actual potential environmental problems..

And yes, Major  --  imagine the population explosions in mice and rats across the world, if the cat haters ever get their way (and the diseases that rats carry, as well as the damage they cause..).  Cats have become so much a part of the inter-connected human environment over the millenia, that the suggested cat genocide by the anti-feline lobby in that story could have far more catastrophic effects, than what a more reasoned and level-headed approach to localised problems might have.        

"Catphobics wetdreams"...I love it.  If you can name it, there's got to be a pill for it.  

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

ANOTHER crock-of-shite pseudo-science report from that paragon of truth, justice and whackjob stories, the 'Daily Flail'...

Certainly, there are too many stray and feral numbers of domestic varieties of felines on this planet -- and there sometimes there is the need for occasional culling of their numbers, especially in certain parts of the Americas and Australasia...

However, that isn't what this thinly-veiled fallaciois piece of catphobics wetdreams is attempting there.  Rather that pathetic example of scaremongering simply shows what happens when the cat hating fantasies of three certain fools are giving some public airtime.          


NOTE that the reporter refers to a couple of so called "experts" without actually telling us what fields they work in, what qualifications they have, or how they come up with those grossly inflated numbers for supposed wildlife kills..

For all we know, that British naturalist could have made up that American "expert" --  and what was their methodology for counting the kills ?
The there are the widely disparate differences in the supposed kill tallies for Britain and America --  are American cats really that much more hungry than British cats ?

The reporters anti-moggy feelings are then further exposed by his references to cats as "psychopathic" killers, and then his grossly exaggerated and misleading fear-mongering efforts in relation to the Toxoplasmosis parasites..        


His histrionic "reporting" looks more like publicity for the cat-eradication desires of three like minded cat haters, rather than any genuine attempt at reporting on any actual potential environmental problems..

And yes, Major  --  imagine the population explosions in mice and rats across the world, if the cat haters ever get their way (and the diseases that rats carry, as well as the damage they cause..).  Cats have become so much a part of the inter-connected human environment over the millenia, that the suggested cat genocide by the anti-feline lobby in that story could have far more catastrophic effects, than what a more reasoned and level-headed approach to localised problems might have.        

cats kill wild birds at an alarming rate. birds do quite a good job at eating pests

Anyone trying to kill my cat had better wear bullet proof trousers.

nicko wrote:Anyone trying to kill my cat had better wear bullet proof trousers.

Nicko, did your cat ever return?

Eddie, the young cat, Mitzie, just disappeared, never saw her again.

Still hope she will turn up, but hope is all but gone.

well it is probably needed if they have ferals. but i didn't think that was the case in the UK

down here it is definitly needed with cats now wiping out more spieces than humans (since they have moved into area that are still unpopulated by humans)

They say the common house cat is the no. 1 predator in the world.

AS I said earlier, feral cats are a problem in many parts of Australia and the Americas...

However, the figures simply don't support the histrionics portrayed by obvious cat haters in articles like that from the Daily Flail..

Indeed, go looking, and you find that those lazy (bleeps) haven't even bothered to carry out any real world surveys -- what most of those self-declared experts have invariably done, is to take some often quoted figures from Australia about suspected wildlife kills by domestic cats and their feral kindred --  and then extrapolate and adjust them to their local conditions. Not very scientific at all, but then their ingrained commen hatred for cats, dogs, horses, sheep and cattle tends to override any rigorous scientific disclipline they might possess..

Even the original figures used for Australia aren't all that reliable --  as they themselves were originally based on one particular naturalist surveying the feral cats near his home in Tasmania over one 18 month period.  No replications, no peer group reviews, no comparative observations and discussions from other regions..

Nope, the cat-hating quarter of of the environmental movement simply took that report because it was favourable to their cause, and ran with it...        

nicko wrote:
Eddie,   the young cat,  Mitzie,    just disappeared,     never saw her again.

Still hope she will turn up,     but hope is all but gone.

Then again, there's also the possibilty that she may have "adopted" a new family.  That does happen sometimes, especially with younger cats..

And, what's the chances that some school kid may have taken a fancy to her one day, and taken it home -- I once suspected that a kitten that disappeared from nearby a few years back could have been catnapped by some school girls who had stopped by the front yard to play with them a few times over a couple of weeks -- where one schoolkid could take a kitten home, and say to her/his parents "Look what Mable's parents/neighbour/whoever said I could have, Mum !"        

nicko wrote:
Anyone trying to kill my cat had better wear bullet proof trousers.

I'm of the same mindset as you on this issue, nicko...

Except in my case, it would more likely be an arrow up their backside..  

you guy do realise you can keep your pet on your property right?

the worst are actually the people that let the cat out a night to go murdering.
a responisble pet owner has their animal under control at all times and doesn't let it out unsupervised.

The same could be said of some people!

nicko wrote:The same could be said of some people!

umm nicko you cant own people

while maybe it migth apply to some parents and their sprogs

As a Dog, Lizard and Bird owner I dont expect to be allowed to let them out into the neighbourhood unsupervised and without having it under control.

Cat owners shouldnt either, in areas like where my farm house is
no collar and wandering around the bush DOES make it a legit thing to shoot.
as in parks and wildlife services WANT you to as it is 'pest animal'.

nicko wrote:Eddie,   the young cat,  Mitzie,    just disappeared,     never saw her again.

Still hope she will turn up,     but hope is all but gone.

I'm sorry Nicko. Don't give up hope X

nicko wrote:Anyone trying to kill my cat had better wear bullet proof trousers.

your cat is not feral is it?

here cats are everywhere, one cat I feed now and again is just about to have her third litter this year.

veya_victaous wrote:

nicko wrote:The same could be said of some people!

umm nicko you cant own people

while maybe it migth apply to some parents and their sprogs

As a Dog, Lizard and Bird owner I dont expect to be allowed to let them out into the neighbourhood unsupervised and without having it under control.

Cat owners shouldnt either, in areas like where my farm house is
no collar and wandering around the bush DOES make it a legit thing to shoot.  
as in parks and wildlife services WANT you to as it is 'pest animal'.

you should have a word with islamic extremists about that

veya_victaous wrote:

nicko wrote:The same could be said of some people!

umm nicko you cant own people

while maybe it migth apply to some parents and their sprogs

As a Dog, Lizard and Bird owner I dont expect to be allowed to let them out into the neighbourhood unsupervised and without having it under control.

Cat owners shouldnt either, in areas like where my farm house is
no collar and wandering around the bush DOES make it a legit thing to shoot.  
as in parks and wildlife services WANT you to as it is 'pest animal'.

wouldn't cats be useful in keeping down the plagues of mice in the farming country

My cat brings home,at least, 10 mice and rats every week.

In ten years he's never brought a bird home, in fact he will lie in the garden and watch birds 3 ft or less from his nose!

It should be law tang all cats be neutered, it surely can't be fair on them if their owners are allowing them to have litter after litter?

It should be law that all cats be neutered, it surely can't be fair on them if their owners are allowing them to have litter after litter?

nicko wrote:My cat brings home,at least, 10 mice and rats every week.

In ten years he's never brought a bird home,   in fact he will lie in the garden and watch birds 3 ft or less from his nose!

yours may not, but millions of birds are killed by cats every year

veya_victaous wrote:you guy do realise you can keep your pet on your property right?      

the worst are actually the people that let the cat out a night to go murdering.
a responisble pet owner has their animal under control at all times and doesn't let it out unsupervised.

W A L O B

Our lad has a cat on the farm, it is a born predator, killer.

Rabbits are its main prey, full size ones and kittens.

His previous cat was a real killer of full size rabbits, twould eat the heads and bring home the rest.

I have posted pics but cannot remember where.

Rats are seldom seen but mice, zillions of them.

A friend no longer with us had a farm with a public supply store, cannot tell you how many feral cats were there, none were fed or watered, they all fended for themselves, never see a rat there even in the barns.

Gamekeepers shoot cats if they get a chance.

I know someone who killed 9 cats with a butchers knife, wrote about this before as well.

What a catastrophe.

Perhaps administering contraceptives to feral cats would help. Probably not feasible but at least more humane.

HoratioTarr wrote:Perhaps administering contraceptives to feral cats would help.   Probably not feasible but at least more humane.

How would you hold said cat when trying to put one on its willy?

All the cats i'v had have been neutered/ spayed/ micro chipped[ since that was available] had all injections and are health checked by a vet twice a year. Costs me a bloody fortune. So you see any bugger that hurts my cats i'd fcuking kill 'em!

Major, if you know who killed them it's your duty to report them to the police.

veya_victaous wrote:

nicko wrote:The same could be said of some people!

umm nicko you cant own people

while maybe it migth apply to some parents and their sprogs

As a Dog, Lizard and Bird owner I dont expect to be allowed to let them out into the neighbourhood unsupervised....

Dogs have masters...

Cats have servants..        

eddie wrote:
It should be law tang all cats be neutered, it surely can't be fair on them if their owners are allowing them to have litter after litter?

Cats and dogs both should be neutered, unless specifically kept for legitimate and quality breeding purposes (i.e. not for "puppy farms"..).

Better for both the animals and the environment (which includes both wildlife and local human communities..).

harm one of My pets...and your worst nightmare will suddenly seem a nice place to be......

nicko wrote:Major,   if you know who killed them it's your duty to report them to the police.

Involved story nicko, going back 40yearz.

Too late to do anything about it then.