WTF Happened To The Music?

Syl wrote:I think people follow certain artists and their music based on the false images they see of them.....Tommy would have a field day spotting all the airbrushing and camera tricks that make ordinary people look like sex gods and goddesses on video.

In my day (yawn) we could go and watch the popular singers actually perform...live...on stage, and we could also hear their actual voices not the digitally enhanced ones that they sound like on video.

People could afford to go and see artists in smaller clubs because none of them expected millions for performing....and I would prefer the true singing talent of Dusty Springfield or Shirley Bassey, who were brilliant live performers, than the likes of Katy Perry or Taylor Swift, who only sing in venues which hold thousands and are just a dot on the horizon surrounded by gimmicks..  

Syl wrote:I think people follow certain artists and their music based on the false images they see of them.....Tommy would have a field day spotting all the airbrushing and camera tricks that make ordinary people look like sex gods and goddesses on video.

In my day (yawn) we could go and watch the popular singers actually perform...live...on stage, and we could also hear their actual voices not the digitally enhanced ones that they sound like on video.

People could afford to go and see artists in smaller clubs because none of them expected millions for performing....and I would prefer the true singing talent of Dusty Springfield or Shirley Bassey, who were brilliant live performers, than the likes of Katy Perry or Taylor Swift, who only sing in venues which hold thousands and are just a dot on the horizon surrounded by gimmicks..  

Didge wrote:For example Syl listen to her range on this blues gosple song.

eddie wrote:

Didge wrote:For example Syl listen to her range on this blues gosple song.

But look at the fake aurbrushing

I think Syl made excellent points

eddie wrote:Sorry I was following on from Syl's posts about people not being "real enough"

I'm not keen on wailing females either: Aguelera, Houston, Mariah Carey (yuck!) are all a bit too shouty waily for me, though Houston had a beautiful tone to her voice.

Ben Reilly wrote:Truth be told, there's been more great music made since MTV started than you could listen to in a lifetime. You just have to look for it these days, because the corporations are just going to try to force-feed you their heavily market-researched concoctions.

Didge wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:Truth be told, there's been more great music made since MTV started than you could listen to in a lifetime. You just have to look for it these days, because the corporations are just going to try to force-feed you their heavily market-researched concoctions.

Again personal preference

Have you sat at listened to Dvorak's New World Sympathy?

Ben Reilly wrote:

Didge wrote:


Again personal preference

Have you sat at listened to Dvorak's New World Sympathy?

That came out a few years before MTV, did it not?

Didge wrote:

Syl wrote:I think people follow certain artists and their music based on the false images they see of them.....Tommy would have a field day spotting all the airbrushing and camera tricks that make ordinary people look like sex gods and goddesses on video.

In my day (yawn) we could go and watch the popular singers actually perform...live...on stage, and we could also hear their actual voices not the digitally enhanced ones that they sound like on video.

People could afford to go and see artists in smaller clubs because none of them expected millions for performing....and I would prefer the true singing talent of Dusty Springfield or Shirley Bassey, who were brilliant live performers, than the likes of Katy Perry or Taylor Swift, who only sing in venues which hold thousands and are just a dot on the horizon surrounded by gimmicks..  

I like many forms of music dependent on my mood at the time

To you what is great talent maybe far removed from someone else like someone into Opera, who will perceive those singers as good but far removed from people who can obtain such notes that leave those singers failing behind.
But again its all about taste.
i am lucky having the ability to have studied Music and played music classically, but I love many forms.
The only one that does nothing for me is jazz.
I mean Christina Aguilera is easily up there with the likes of shirley Bassey.
To me the two great black female singers from that era were Aretha and Nina Simone, but that is my prefenrence, but there is loads of huge talent today. I think its more about eras we are brought up in and I like to think I move along with the time.
Sometimes a good song is based on the musice as well as the singing.
Something though that catches you emotionally is always that much more special

eddie wrote:

Syl wrote:I think people follow certain artists and their music based on the false images they see of them.....Tommy would have a field day spotting all the airbrushing and camera tricks that make ordinary people look like sex gods and goddesses on video.

In my day (yawn) we could go and watch the popular singers actually perform...live...on stage, and we could also hear their actual voices not the digitally enhanced ones that they sound like on video.

People could afford to go and see artists in smaller clubs because none of them expected millions for performing....and I would prefer the true singing talent of Dusty Springfield or Shirley Bassey, who were brilliant live performers, than the likes of Katy Perry or Taylor Swift, who only sing in venues which hold thousands and are just a dot on the horizon surrounded by gimmicks..  

Excellent post Syl

Syl wrote:

Didge wrote:


I like many forms of music dependent on my mood at the time

To you what is great talent maybe far removed from someone else like someone into Opera, who will perceive those singers as good but far removed from people who can obtain such notes that leave those singers failing behind.
But again its all about taste.
i am lucky having the ability to have studied Music and played music classically, but I love many forms.
The only one that does nothing for me is jazz.
I mean Christina Aguilera is easily up there with the likes of shirley Bassey.
To me the two great black female singers from that era were Aretha and Nina Simone, but that is my prefenrence, but there is loads of huge talent today. I think its more about eras we are brought up in and I like to think I move along with the time.
Sometimes a good song is based on the musice as well as the singing.
Something though that catches you emotionally is always that much more special

I played the Christine Aguilera track before I posted this...she does have a fabulous voice, as do many of the more recent singers. Beyoncé and Whitney both have/had brilliant ranges and style....I'm not knocking them, more the way they are produced nowadays so their fans can only see them either on video or in an arena where the sound system and noise drowns out their voices.
You are right that it's all down to personal taste though, personally I would never go to an opera, but some operatic arias, and especially some pieces of classical music that I don't even know the titles of, can move me to tears.

eddie wrote:Great film and great music for the film
What scene was this again?

eddie wrote:It's a brilliant film. I read the book first and the film never disappointed me. Superbly acted too.

Didge wrote:I would be interested to know now after this, how many end up watching this great film again this weekend?

I never tire of it.

Syl wrote:

Didge wrote:I would be interested to know now after this, how many end up watching this great film again this weekend?

I never tire of it.

I think it's been voted one of the greatest films of all time in more than one poll....and have you ever seen Morgan Freeman in a bad film? I don't think I have.

The piece of music from the film was lovely Didge Thanks.
Odd how so many classical pieces are well known through films and even adverts, it's a great way of bringing culture to the masses.

Didge wrote:For example Syl listen to her range on this blues gosple song.

Didge wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

Didge wrote:


Again personal preference

Have you sat at listened to Dvorak's New World Sympathy?

That came out a few years before MTV, did it not?

lol quite a few Ben indeed. 

People who enjoy classical and I mean this truely can get so wrapped into the emotions of the music, because they each tell a story