NSW bans Greyhound Racing

AFTER years of ongoing cruelty, criminal activities, and long running corruption through the greyhound racing and betting industry,  the NSW government has finally puled the plug...

The industry was given more than enough time to clean up their act..

But, being the brainless amateurs that many of the trainers and breeders are, they simply refused to clean their act up.


NOW,  the police and RSPCA will have to be supported and funded in cracking down on coursing and illegal gambling..


http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-07/greyhound-racing-to-be-banned-in-new-south-wales/7576816


http://m.smh.com.au/sport/nsw-premier-mike-baird-announces-ban-on-greyhound-racing-after-special-commission-of-inquiry-20160707-gq0fw3.html


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/home/pets/nsw-government-bans-greyhound-racing-what-will-happen-to-the-dogs/news-story/d9145ea270289da8f07fcb39aee1e0c1

Greyhound racing here was 'big' business when I was younger, many enjoyed watching it.
Greyhound and big dog owners would go to the local abattoir for free or cheapo offal to feed them, we used to reckon some of the humans ate some of the offal.

Watching a greyhound lurcher type dog pursuing a hare acoss a field of which the hare knows every little fence hole which the dog cannot get through is is clever on the part of the hare who more often than not gets away.

I open ground several dogs pursue a hare which gets caught more often.

I think it's OK as a sport, but its how the dogs are treated which is the problem, and if they've had a chance to clean up their act, it's their own fault it's been banned.

There's a push here by the League Against Cruel Sports to regulate it better. Vice President, Annette Crosbie, is very vocal about it.

Major wrote:Greyhound racing here was 'big' business when I was younger, many enjoyed watching it.
Greyhound and big dog owners would go to the local abattoir for free or cheapo offal to feed them, we used to reckon some of the humans ate some of the offal.

Watching a greyhound lurcher type dog pursuing a hare acoss a field of which the hare knows every little fence hole which the dog cannot get through is is clever on the part of the hare who more often than not gets away.

I open ground several dogs pursue a hare which gets caught more often.  

You're talking about hare coursing, which is a disgusting "sport", and is now illegal in this country.

Major wrote:Greyhound racing here was 'big' business when I was younger, many enjoyed watching it.
Greyhound and big dog owners would go to the local abattoir for free or cheapo offal to feed them, we used to reckon some of the humans ate some of the offal.

Watching a greyhound lurcher type dog pursuing a hare acoss a field of which the hare knows every little fence hole which the dog cannot get through is is clever on the part of the hare who more often than not gets away.

I open ground several dogs pursue a hare which gets caught more often.  

There's no excuse for blood sports, none whatsoever. What was once a way people had to catch game to eat at a time when there was perhaps no other means is one thing....doing it for the fun of it now, is quite unacceptable.

Raggamuffin wrote:I think it's OK as a sport, but its how the dogs are treated which is the problem, and if they've had a chance to clean up their act, it's their own fault it's been banned.

There's a push here by the League Against Cruel Sports to regulate it better. Vice President, Annette Crosbie, is very vocal about it.

They cut the ears off the dogs that are not fit for racing, because all racing dogs are tattooed and it avoids identification.  What you see on the tracks are the fit dogs that are well looked after.   Behind the scenes are the thousands of dogs that don't make the grade and are often cruelly neglected.

I really have no time for any sport that involves animal exploitation. Be it racing, or those terrible Waterworld Sea parks where they make killer whales and dolphins perform.

HoratioTarr wrote:I really have no time for any sport that involves animal exploitation.  Be it racing, or those terrible Waterworld Sea parks where they make killer whales and dolphins perform.

How about human exploitation in sport? HT

Humans are pushed to the limit and over and get injud.

Major wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:I really have no time for any sport that involves animal exploitation.  Be it racing, or those terrible Waterworld Sea parks where they make killer whales and dolphins perform.

How about human exploitation in sport? HT

Humans are pushed to the limit and over and get injud.

They do it voluntarily.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Major wrote:

How about human exploitation in sport? HT

Humans are pushed to the limit and over and get injud.

They do it voluntarily.

How about littlunz in sport/dancing who have pushy mothers? they don't have a choice.

Major wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Major wrote:

How about human exploitation in sport? HT

Humans are pushed to the limit and over and get injud.

They do it voluntarily.

How about littlunz in sport/dancing who have pushy mothers? they don't have a choice.

My pet hate

Greyhounds are mostly rehomed - I think Horatio may be talking about places in Ireland where they cut the dogs' ears off and then hang them from trees.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/dec/19/antonybarnett.theobserver1

I have seen countless hunting dogs in kennels and everyone has been looked after.
Those who spout crap make it up and do not speak from experience.

These animals are valuable so WHY would you not look after them

eddie wrote:

Major wrote:

How about littlunz in sport/dancing who have pushy mothers? they don't have a choice.

My pet hate

Greyhounds are mostly rehomed - I think Horatio may be talking about places in Ireland where they cut the dogs' ears off and then hang them from trees.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/dec/19/antonybarnett.theobserver1

Hate to tell you Eddie, but it is a tiny minority that are rehomed.   Thousands of puppies that don't make the grade are shot and buried, as are a huge number of adult dogs that simply disappear.   Greyhound racing is the biggest killer of dogs in the UK.

Major wrote:I have seen countless hunting dogs in kennels and everyone has been looked after.
Those who spout crap make it up and do not speak from experience.

These animals are valuable so WHY would you not look after them

Awww, as sick as all of that 'lesser thinking humanity' is Stormee; they fall into every category that has anything & everything to do with animals.  I've seen it with race horses/quarter horses/miniature pony farms/ranchers/dairy farmers/dog breeders/puppy mills/cat breeders/people that start out rescuing cats and then become hoarders of those same type of animals. 
And believe me when I say; the more expensive the breed of the horse - the more likely that there will be the back alley number of equine going to the dog food packers weekly because those fillies & stud colts just aren't going to make the 'cut' for the racing seasons cost to train or future breeding program. 
It's the reality and reason I walked away from staying with equine training in my college years. 

sassy wrote:

eddie wrote:

Major wrote:

How about littlunz in sport/dancing who have pushy mothers? they don't have a choice.

My pet hate

Greyhounds are mostly rehomed - I think Horatio may be talking about places in Ireland where they cut the dogs' ears off and then hang them from trees.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/dec/19/antonybarnett.theobserver1

Hate to tell you Eddie, but it is a tiny minority that are rehomed.   Thousands of puppies that don't make the grade are shot and buried, as are a huge number of adult dogs that simply disappear.   Greyhound racing is the biggest killer of dogs in the UK.

Yeah I kinda know sass. It's too horrible to think about.

eddie wrote:

sassy wrote:


Hate to tell you Eddie, but it is a tiny minority that are rehomed.   Thousands of puppies that don't make the grade are shot and buried, as are a huge number of adult dogs that simply disappear.   Greyhound racing is the biggest killer of dogs in the UK.

Yeah I kinda know sass. It's too horrible to think about.

I know what you mean, I'd rescue them all if I could.

Major wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:I really have no time for any sport that involves animal exploitation.  Be it racing, or those terrible Waterworld Sea parks where they make killer whales and dolphins perform.

How about human exploitation in sport? HT

Humans are pushed to the limit and over and get injud.

Most humans have a choice, and if it's a child, then there are systems in place to protect them. On the whole, animals have no voice.

A dog doesn't have to run if it doesn't want to...


If it wanted to... it could walk out of the traps, sit down and start licking it's genitals...

Tommy Monk wrote:A dog doesn't have to run if it doesn't want to...
If it wanted to... it could walk out of the traps, sit down and start licking it's genitals...

And that folks, is posted by someone that knows ABSOLUTELY nothing about the dog(s), how to train dog(s) and what happens to those dog(s) that are shown running at the track! 

There's the racer's and then there's the ones doing what dim-wit stated ...are dead and aren't being wasted time/energy/food because they won't be trained to do as they are instructed! 

Tommy Monk wrote:A dog doesn't have to run if it doesn't want to...


If it wanted to... it could walk out of the traps, sit down and start licking it's genitals...

Tommy that might've been the single most stupid post you've ever made.

Tommy Monk wrote:A dog doesn't have to run if it doesn't want to...


If it wanted to... it could walk out of the traps, sit down and start licking it's genitals...

That's the whole point of this thread. The ones who don't run are the ones who get abused.

That's if they even get old enough to get abused!

sassy wrote:That's if they even get old enough to get abused!

Doesn't bear thinking about.

My brother had a greyhound that had been abandoned and left to it's own devices on the street.   When he found him, he could barely move he was so thin and covered in sores, laying in an alleyway waiting to die.   Glad to say he had another 11 years of good life with my brother.

sassy wrote:My brother had a greyhound that had been abandoned and left to it's own devices on the street.   When he found him, he could barely move he was so thin and covered in sores, laying in an alleyway waiting to die.   Glad to say he had another 11 years of good life with my brother.

Love those stories.

They called him Mick, he was a brindle.   Six weeks before they got married they were out with him, he ran towards my soon to be sister-in-law, forgot how to stop, ran into the front of her leg with the top of his head and broke her leg in two places!

sassy wrote:My brother had a greyhound that had been abandoned and left to it's own devices on the street.   When he found him, he could barely move he was so thin and covered in sores, laying in an alleyway waiting to die.   Glad to say he had another 11 years of good life with my brother.

Really, how luvlee for them both.
Did he also find a stray horse in the street, train it to win the Grand National and named it Shergar only to have it horse napped and claim insurance on it.

Right...I'm going to say this ONCE

BOTH of you

major and Sassy

STOP with the constant baiting ....OK.....

because IF you DONT......the next one to start will put you BOTH in the bin for a week.....

I WILL have an end to this......

Major wrote:

sassy wrote:My brother had a greyhound that had been abandoned and left to it's own devices on the street.   When he found him, he could barely move he was so thin and covered in sores, laying in an alleyway waiting to die.   Glad to say he had another 11 years of good life with my brother.

Really, how luvlee for them both.
Did he also find a stray horse in the street, train it to win the Grand National and named it Shergar only to have it horse napped and claim insurance on it.

Why don't you stick your head up your arse and find where your brains are.

see above...

I'll let that pass, given the time between my post and that one

NO MORE....GOTTIT?

Major wrote:

sassy wrote:My brother had a greyhound that had been abandoned and left to it's own devices on the street.   When he found him, he could barely move he was so thin and covered in sores, laying in an alleyway waiting to die.   Glad to say he had another 11 years of good life with my brother.

Really, how luvlee for them both.
Did he also find a stray horse in the street, train it to win the Grand National and named it Shergar only to have it horse napped and claim insurance on it.

Unecessary. Stop it.

I never said I supported animal cruelty... in fact I'm quite against it...

OK eddie

eddie wrote:

Major wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Major wrote:

How about human exploitation in sport? HT

Humans are pushed to the limit and over and get injud.

They do it voluntarily.

How about littlunz in sport/dancing who have pushy mothers? they don't have a choice.

My pet hate

Greyhounds are mostly rehomed - I think Horatio may be talking about places in Ireland where they cut the dogs' ears off and then hang them from trees.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/dec/19/antonybarnett.theobserver1

Down here they are mainly shot as the Kennels that raise them are in rural areas

they are talking about 10,000 dogs a year getting 'put down' because they aren't competitive.

AND the real thing that bought this on, was the use of 'live baiting' or the disgusting stuff Major thinks is entertainment
it lead to furhter investigation and now closed.

I support this move.

It's barbaric and cruel and I have no idea how and why, it still goes on.

Well, it gives people something to bet on, and makes money for others, so who cares about the dogs (sigh)

Special Commission of Inquiry yesterday handed down a report showing up to 20 per cent of trainers were involved in the brutal practise and estimated trainers killed up to 68,000 “uncompetitive” dogs every year.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/more-sports/the-secret-greyhound-tapes-that-led-to-the-end-of-an-industry/news-story/49662fe8ef10c20b19848ff2ceef8930

more Detail on the live batiing scandal that caused the public outcry and investigation, that they tried to squash because original footage had been taken by hidden camera.

Live baiting is associated with coarse fishing for pike, zander and perch.

Major wrote:Live baiting is associated with coarse fishing for pike, zander and perch.

"Live Baiting"  - what Pit Bull Fighting Rings use to train their younger dogs - going to kill shelters and obtaining numerous dogs & cats to sacrifice for their cruel training attack dogs!  There are photo's taken and an alert sent out to shelters nationwide alert them about such cases and these hit our 'local volunteer rescue groups' ...along with the names and dr.'s photo's of those cretins that obtained the dogs & cats for their demonic use - but sadly our inhumane laws just aren't stiff enough to prevent much of this activity.  
"Live baiting" - what those good-ole-boys do when gator baiting doesn't work with dead chickens running a triple hook into the jaws of a dog/cat and trolling that behind a boat or a bank line to attract a gator ...
Yipper those southern bible belt humanoids really know some extreme beyond the pale cruel methods for torturing animals.

"LIVE BAITING" In relation to greyhound racing, is trainers using captured/trapped live rabbits, hares, cats or possums to 'blood' their dogs, in the belief that it will make them run harder as they chase the mechanical 'bunny' around the track...

Despite the protestations of the industry, it is a sorry fact that around 15-->>20% of trainers (or more, in some regions..) still use the disproven, cruel and widely-despised practice..


"COURSING" is the illegal gambling/gaming practice, where greyhounds are used to chase down and kill rabbits and hares, usually hidden away in a back paddock, or out in a bush clearing, promoted strictly through word of mouth; by sly operators continually moving their operations, to try and stay one step ahead of police, RSPCA and activist groups..