The Solution to Stopping ISIS: Look in the Quran
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1400 years of history is proving Qureshi right
As nobody attacked the Arabs in Arabia and yet they set out and conquered not only the Middle East, but North Africa, Spain, etc. If it has no violence, then clearly, someone is trying to pull the wool over the eyes of people. As people have read the Quran and hadiths themselves to see wht extremist Muslims use to justify their violence and its about time Muslims starting recognising that and dealing with these problematic verses that do endorse violence.
I mean look at the claims made, that Muslims were tortured for the first 13 years pf persecution and what sources do we have to tell us this?
Errrr Muslim sources, so they were even playing the victim card back then also it seems.
As there is no contemporary evidence to show this actually happened.
What we do know is that the Arab armies took advanatged of two weakened empires, that of the Byzantines and Sassanid Empire.
Its unverified claims made to defend Islam as seen above which are based off a falsehood in order to defend Islam, when there is no bases. What history we do know shows the Arabs conquered and they made citizens to an inferior status, if not Muslim. Thus the carrot on a stick is applied, to then convert
As nobody attacked the Arabs in Arabia and yet they set out and conquered not only the Middle East, but North Africa, Spain, etc. If it has no violence, then clearly, someone is trying to pull the wool over the eyes of people. As people have read the Quran and hadiths themselves to see wht extremist Muslims use to justify their violence and its about time Muslims starting recognising that and dealing with these problematic verses that do endorse violence.
I mean look at the claims made, that Muslims were tortured for the first 13 years pf persecution and what sources do we have to tell us this?
Errrr Muslim sources, so they were even playing the victim card back then also it seems.
As there is no contemporary evidence to show this actually happened.
What we do know is that the Arab armies took advanatged of two weakened empires, that of the Byzantines and Sassanid Empire.
Its unverified claims made to defend Islam as seen above which are based off a falsehood in order to defend Islam, when there is no bases. What history we do know shows the Arabs conquered and they made citizens to an inferior status, if not Muslim. Thus the carrot on a stick is applied, to then convert
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Re: The Solution to Stopping ISIS: Look in the Quran
I love this part as if this somehow makes it okay
The verse that is most famously quoted from this chapter states, “kill the idolaters wherever you find them and take them prisoners, and beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush.” However the next sentence is often forgotten: “But if they repent and observe Prayer and pay the Zakat, then leave their way free. Surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful” (Chapter 9: Verse 5).
So basically cut their heads off, or if they submit, is what its really saying, by then paying a tax to live is somehow now a Good and peaceful option, and leaving them with little choice. This is why its appalling how someone can claim that is somehow a good verse, ignoring that what if someone does not want to pray or be forced to pay a tax enforced onto them?
The verse that is most famously quoted from this chapter states, “kill the idolaters wherever you find them and take them prisoners, and beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush.” However the next sentence is often forgotten: “But if they repent and observe Prayer and pay the Zakat, then leave their way free. Surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful” (Chapter 9: Verse 5).
So basically cut their heads off, or if they submit, is what its really saying, by then paying a tax to live is somehow now a Good and peaceful option, and leaving them with little choice. This is why its appalling how someone can claim that is somehow a good verse, ignoring that what if someone does not want to pray or be forced to pay a tax enforced onto them?
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