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Post by eddie Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:07 pm

Ukip accused of scaremongering over ad denouncing Turkey

Ukip has been accused of “baseless scaremongering” after it used a party political broadcast on the BBC to warn of the dangers of Turkey joining the EU, highlighting its Muslim population and claiming 15 million of its citizens could migrate to the UK.

The advert provoked a backlash from pro-EU campaigners and MPs, as well as claims of Islamophobia from Twitter users, some of whom said they were planning to report the party to Ofcom.

The four-minute Ukip advertisement warned about the number of “Islamic imam schools” in Turkey, highlighted the shrinking number of Christians, and showed a succession of images of minarets and women wearing headscarves.

It also reeled off a list of statistics about women suffering physical violence and a quarter marrying before the age of 18 as apparent justifications for why the country should not be allowed to join the EU.

The advert claimed Turkey would be the largest member in the EU and expect to receive a third of its structural aid budget. It ended by saying its potential entry as a member state was just one of the “major risks to Britain coming down the tracks from the EU”.

“When the referendum comes, vote to leave,” it said in conclusion.

The footage was criticised by pro-EU campaigners including Tim Farron, the Lib Dem leader, who said: “Everyone is used to the poisonous rhetoric of Ukip, working to play one community off against another but this takes it to another level.

“Ukip is using a party political broadcast, that means that they have brought the BBC and C4 into this. The use of minarets [is] purely a coded nudge and a wink to their supporters. This is abhorrent to many liberally minded people.”

A spokesman for Britain Stronger in Europe said the party was “trying to tarnish an entire nation and its people and degrading debate in this country” which was “completely beyond the pale”.

“Whatever your view on whether Turkey should or will join the EU, this is a new low in baseless scaremongering from Ukip,” he said. “There is no prospect of Turkey joining the EU in the foreseeable future, so this is just a clear demonstration of how Ukip have no economic or fact-based arguments.”

Labour MP Richard Burden said it was “hard to describe just how much is wrong with its tone”, adding that it was “stomach-turning if this is a taste of what’s to come from them”.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/04/ukip-accused-scaremongering-advert-denouncing-turkey-islamophobia



Got a leaflet through my door about this from UKIP
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Post by Guest Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:11 pm

Didn't see the ad, any party political from them I switch off.  Sounds like their normal.

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Post by eddie Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:19 pm

They reckon - if I have this right - that 15 million Turkish people are waiting to come here once they join the EU
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Post by eddie Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:19 pm

They reckon - if I have this right - that 15 million Turkish people are waiting to come here once they join the EU
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Post by eddie Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:20 pm

No idea why I said that twice. It wasn't even that interesting.
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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:59 pm



"The four-minute Ukip advertisement warned about the number of “Islamic imam schools” in Turkey, highlighted the shrinking number of Christians, and showed a succession of images of minarets and women wearing headscarves.

It also reeled off a list of statistics about women suffering physical violence and a quarter marrying before the age of 18 as apparent justifications for why the country should not be allowed to join the EU.

The advert claimed Turkey would be the largest member in the EU and expect to receive a third of its structural aid budget. It ended by saying its potential entry as a member state was just one of the “major risks to Britain coming down the tracks from the EU”




Can you tell us which bits of this are not factually correct and untrue...!?


And then tell us how telling the truth is wrong...!?


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Post by eddie Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:09 am

I don't always know who to believe.

How do you ever know when you have conflicting stories?
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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:18 am




No conflicting story unless you can show the claims are wrong/untrue...


Please show how any of the claims are wrong/untrue...!?


Or agree that they are correct/true...!?


And if correct/true... what is wrong with someone telling the truth...!?
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Post by Eilzel Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:24 am

They said milluons of Bulgarians and Romanians would come too. Turkish people have no reason to leave their country. Sure some would, pretty sure thousands of Brits would love the opportunity to retire to Turkey with ease as well. UKIP love drama, I guess they need to do something since they aren't as involved in parliament as they'd hoped to be this time last year Smile
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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:46 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

"The four-minute Ukip advertisement warned about the number of “Islamic imam schools” in Turkey, highlighted the shrinking number of Christians, and showed a succession of images of minarets and women wearing headscarves.

It also reeled off a list of statistics about women suffering physical violence and a quarter marrying before the age of 18 as apparent justifications for why the country should not be allowed to join the EU.

The advert claimed Turkey would be the largest member in the EU and expect to receive a third of its structural aid budget. It ended by saying its potential entry as a member state was just one of the “major risks to Britain coming down the tracks from the EU”




Can you tell us which bits of this are not factually correct and untrue...!?


And then tell us how telling the truth is wrong...!?


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Post by 'Wolfie Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:26 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
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The advert claimed Turkey would be the largest member in the EU and expect to receive a third of its structural aid budget. It ended by saying its potential entry as a member state was just one of the “major risks to Britain coming down the tracks from the EU”


Can you tell us which bits of this are not factually correct and untrue...!?


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WHERE is their evidence that Turkey would  "...expect to receive a third of (the EU) structural aid budget ?

OR THAT "15 million" Turks are ready and just waiting to invade Britain ?

WHAT is "factually correct" about either claim, Tommy ?
JUST AS with your usual propaganda modus operandi, they lay out a few obvious facts and threatening images, and then overlay it with bulldust, outright lies and threatening scenarios..

TYPICAL xenophobic scaremongering at its worst -- or best, depending which side of the fence you're standing on...
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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:22 am

I'm sure Ukip can back up the claims...

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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:52 pm

Wow, obviously this is a huge issue with grave implications no matter what anybody does or does not do ...

I think the wisest course is summed up nicely by the old saying, "You can't have a frog in your pocket and a pickle in your mouth without sometimes wondering which is which."
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Post by eddie Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:54 pm

*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:Wow, obviously this is a huge issue with grave implications no matter what anybody does or does not do ...

I think the wisest course is summed up nicely by the old saying, "You can't have a frog in your pocket and a pickle in your mouth without sometimes wondering which is which."


I remember that quote! My father actually said that to me upon his deathbed. He said, “eddie,” he said, “I’ve got a quote for you ain’t I?”

And then he uttered those words.
Good times.
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