What Causes the Smell of New vs Old Books? **Geek Alert**
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What Causes the Smell of New vs Old Books? **Geek Alert**
What Causes the Smell of New & Old Books?
Everyone’s familiar with the smell of old books, the weirdly intoxicating scent that haunts libraries and second-hand book stores. Similarly, who doesn’t enjoy riffling through the pages of a newly purchased book and breathing in the crisp aroma of new paper and freshly printed ink? As with all aromas, the origins can be traced back to a number of chemical constituents, so we can examine the processes and compounds that can contribute to both.As far as the smell of new books goes, it’s actually quite difficult to pinpoint specific compounds, for a number of reasons.
Firstly, there seems to be a scarcity of scientific research that’s been carried out on the subject – to be fair, it’s understandable why it might not exactly be high up on the priority list.
Secondly, the variation in the chemicals used to manufacture books also means that it’s an aroma that will vary from book to book. Add to this the fact that there are literally hundreds of compounds involved, and it becomes clearer why it evades attribution to a small selection of chemicals.It’s likely that the bulk of ‘new book smell’ can be put down to three main sources: the paper itself (and the chemicals used in its manufacture), the inks used to print the book, and the adhesives used in the book-binding process.The manufacture of paper requires the use of chemicals at several stages. Large amounts of paper are made from wood pulp (though it can also be made from cotton and textiles) – chemicals such as sodium hydroxide, often referred to in this context as ‘caustic soda’, can be added to increase pH and cause fibres in the pulp to swell. The fibres are then bleached with a number of other chemicals, including hydrogen peroxide; then, they are mixed with large amounts of water. This water will contain additives to modify the properties of the the paper – for example, AKD (alkyl ketene dimer) is commonly used as a ‘sizing agent’ to improve the water-resistance of the paper.Many other chemicals are also used – this is just a very rough overview. The upshot of this is that some of these chemicals can contribute, through their reactions or otherwise, to the release of volatile organic compounds (VOCs) into the air, the odours of which we can detect. The same is true of chemicals used in the inks, and the adhesives used in the books. A number of different adhesives are used for book-binding, many of which are based on organic ‘co-polymers’ – large numbers of smaller molecules chemically chained together.As stated, differences in paper, adhesives, and inks used will influence the ‘new book smell’, so not all new books will smell the same – perhaps the reason why no research has yet attempted to definitively define the aroma.An aroma that has had much more research carried out around it, however, is that of old books. There’s a reason for this, as it’s been investigated as a potential method for assessing the condition of old books, by monitoring the concentrations of different organic compounds that they give off. As a result, we can be a little more certain on some of the many compounds that contribute to the smell.Generally, it is the chemical breakdown of compounds within paper that leads to the production of ‘old book smell’. Paper contains, amongst other chemicals, cellulose, and smaller amounts of lignin – much less in more modern books than in books from more than one hundred years ago. Both of these originate from the trees the paper is made from; finer papers will contain much less lignin than, for example, newsprint. In trees, lignin helps bind cellulose fibres together, keeping the wood stiff; it’s also responsible for old paper’s yellowing with age, as oxidation reactions cause it to break down into acids, which then help break down cellulose.‘Old book smell’ is derived from this chemical degradation. Modern, high quality papers will undergo chemical processing to remove lignin, but breakdown of cellulose in the paper can still occur (albeit at a much slower rate) due to the presence of acids in the surroundings. These reactions, referred to generally as ‘acid hydrolysis’, produce a wide range of volatile organic compounds, many of which are likely to contribute to the smell of old books. A selected number of compounds have had their contributions pinpointed: benzaldehyde adds an almond-like scent; vanillin adds a vanilla-like scent; ethyl benzene and toluene impart sweet odours; and 2-ethyl hexanol has a ‘slightly floral’ contribution. Other aldehydes and alcohols produced by these reactions have low odour thresholds and also contribute.Other compounds given off have been marked as useful for determining the extent of degradation of old books. Furfural is one of these compounds, shown below. It can also be used to determine the age and composition of books, with books published after the mid-1800s emitting more furfural, and its emission generally increasing with publication year relative to older books composed of cotton or linen paper.http://www.compoundchem.com/2014/06/01/newoldbooksmell/
If only there would be a way to make that 'aroma' and bottle it: 'Ode To Old Library' --- I'd probably purchase it!
I can't imagine the places and various locations that all of you in England have to visit and wander through --- all those vast libraries and ancient printed texts --- WOW, I'm so envious!
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I read a lot of books, I love the smell of a new one.
not quite the same as an E-book is it?
not quite the same as an E-book is it?
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My favourite places in the whole world are second hand book shops, the smell of old books is like the smell of learning, excitement, fear, joy, happiness and contentment all rolled into one slightly musty perfume. Absolutely love it.
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Hello. My name is Cass. I'm a librarian. I'm addicted to this smell
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CASS,just finished a book,"The Pillars of The Earth" by Ken Follett" Have you read it? One of the best books i'v ever read.
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nicko wrote:CASS,just finished a book,"The Pillars of The Earth" by Ken Follett" Have you read it? One of the best books i'v ever read.
I'VE read a couple of his books.. ('World Without End', as well as 'Pillars..', 2 or 3 years ago, or more; plus I have 'On Wings of Eagles' here, that I haven't started yet..).
Also, there was just a mini-series of "The Pillars of the Earth" that finished on the teev down here a couple of weeks back (though I didn't watch it..).
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I love the smell of old books and I also love the smell of old, empty rotting houses.....I like damp and musty smells I guess?
Perhaps that's why I like mushrooms so much actually.
Perhaps that's why I like mushrooms so much actually.
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the mushrooms are taking you over eddie....
you are becoming one with the mycelium.....
you are becoming one with the mycelium.....
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nicko wrote:CASS,just finished a book,"The Pillars of The Earth" by Ken Follett" Have you read it? One of the best books i'v ever read.
Glad you liked it Nicko. I read it years ago. There is another in the series called World Without End. Try his Century Trilogy. I also loved The Key to Rebecca's, and the Man From St. Petersburg.
Have you read Clive Cussler? Also try Bernard Cornwell
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WhoseYourWolfie wrote:nicko wrote:CASS,just finished a book,"The Pillars of The Earth" by Ken Follett" Have you read it? One of the best books i'v ever read.
I'VE read a couple of his books.. ('World Without End', as well as 'Pillars..', 2 or 3 years ago, or more; plus I have 'On Wings of Eagles' here, that I haven't started yet..).
Also, there was just a mini-series of "The Pillars of the Earth" that finished on the teev down here a couple of weeks back (though I didn't watch it..).
I wansnt overly enamoured of the Tv series. Frankly it was boring. To me at least.
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Cass wrote:WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
I'VE read a couple of his books.. ('World Without End', as well as 'Pillars..', 2 or 3 years ago, or more; plus I have 'On Wings of Eagles' here, that I haven't started yet..).
Also, there was just a mini-series of "The Pillars of the Earth" that finished on the teev down here a couple of weeks back (though I didn't watch it..).
I wansnt overly enamoured of the Tv series. Frankly it was boring. To me at least.
Give me a book anyday. Very rare for a TV Series not to mess it about.
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The TV show 'How It Was Made'~~~
I just watched this at noon today ~~~ so fascinating to see how they bind and repair old additions...I've got several that I wish I could afford to have rebound.
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I just watched this at noon today ~~~ so fascinating to see how they bind and repair old additions...I've got several that I wish I could afford to have rebound.
Its expensive for sure. I have a 1936 edition of Gone With The Wind in pieces and unless I win the lottery ....
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I have been reading books by Simon Scarrow, although fiction about the Romans there is a lot of truth woven into the stories.
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nicko wrote:I have been reading books by Simon Scarrow, although fiction about the Romans there is a lot of truth woven into the stories.
That's great. Good historical fiction should always have truth. Bad is what I like to call hysterical fiction....or just plain crape. Lol
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LOL...you made that feeling known when I'd asked if you were following or had watched 'Wolf Hall' on TV via the PBS masterpiece theater; but I'll offer this up as a reason for those of us to watch!Cass wrote:nicko wrote:I have been reading books by Simon Scarrow, although fiction about the Romans there is a lot of truth woven into the stories.
That's great. Good historical fiction should always have truth. Bad is what I like to call hysterical fiction....or just plain crape. Lol
a.) I've been fed quite a bit about what our scholastic books provide as England's History
b.) getting a POV from the other characters within that era provides an opportunity to dig deeper/opens the mind to greater understanding of inner workings with the royal court isn't the glossy 'Disney Film' footage that we all get spoon fed via our movies
c.) looking for the errors within the scenery/period dress/mannerisms/meals has always been a fun thing to do --- 'finding WALDO and how many errors are so obvious'
Not admonishing you as much as I'm saying: even poorly written historical pieces have a connection value to someone viewing them --- even western - countrified types like me!
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I hear you. Its just the way I'm wired. That's why books get published because someone somewhere will read it.
Historical fiction us a great gateway for real history.
If you a good non-fiction author on UK history during that time period, check out Alison Weir. She has written many great books and is now also doing historical fiction (disclaimer. I haven't read those but own all of the non-fiction).
Antonia Fraser still, to me at any rate, has the best biography of Mary, Queen of Scots as well as Marie Antoinette.
Man I'm counting you and Nicko as reference questions on my day off
Historical fiction us a great gateway for real history.
If you a good non-fiction author on UK history during that time period, check out Alison Weir. She has written many great books and is now also doing historical fiction (disclaimer. I haven't read those but own all of the non-fiction).
Antonia Fraser still, to me at any rate, has the best biography of Mary, Queen of Scots as well as Marie Antoinette.
Man I'm counting you and Nicko as reference questions on my day off
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Cass wrote:I hear you. Its just the way I'm wired. That's why books get published because someone somewhere will read it.
Historical fiction us a great gateway for real history.
If you a good non-fiction author on UK history during that time period, check out Alison Weir. She has written many great books and is now also doing historical fiction (disclaimer. I haven't read those but own all of the non-fiction).
Antonia Fraser still, to me at any rate, has the best biography of Mary, Queen of Scots as well as Marie Antoinette.
Man I'm counting you and Nicko as reference questions on my day off
Oh, great...I enjoy getting to know new authors and I've quite fond of biographies! I started on the generals of our Civil War and that triggered an interest into the POTUS and then onto the First Ladies and lately I've been digging into the history of Europe!
So I'll add both of those names to my 'Must Read' list and get my local library to see if they're available from the lending library!
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I had a First Ladies//White House kick over Thanksgiving
This was excellent. New written format but I liked it a lot. Based on the CSpan series.
http://www.amazon.com/First-Ladies-Presidential-Historians-American/dp/1610395662
Also scroll down. Ive read The Residence, Capitol Dames and the one by Margaret Truman, who also did a great book on history of the WH. All great reads.
YAY for you supporting local libraries.
This was excellent. New written format but I liked it a lot. Based on the CSpan series.
http://www.amazon.com/First-Ladies-Presidential-Historians-American/dp/1610395662
Also scroll down. Ive read The Residence, Capitol Dames and the one by Margaret Truman, who also did a great book on history of the WH. All great reads.
YAY for you supporting local libraries.
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Cass wrote:I had a First Ladies//White House kick over Thanksgiving
This was excellent. New written format but I liked it a lot. Based on the CSpan series.
http://www.amazon.com/First-Ladies-Presidential-Historians-American/dp/1610395662
Also scroll down. Ive read The Residence, Capitol Dames and the one by Margaret Truman, who also did a great book on history of the WH. All great reads.
YAY for you supporting local libraries.
Oh...I've got to go into that lovely old school house - rehabbed into the library {circa 1965} and 'INHALE DEEPLY' ~~~ It's like getting my weekly fix, even if all I do is read the newspapers! Awwww, that aroma~~~
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