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Post by Guest Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:48 am

According to the 'Sunday Times', Labour Party club members called Jewish students 'Zios', dubbed the Auschwitz death camp 'a cash cow', sang about rockets being fired at Tel Aviv.

Members of the prominent University student group affiliated with the Labour Party laughed at Jewish victims of terrorism and made fun of the Holocaust, the Sunday Times reported. According to the British weekly, club members called Jewish students “Zios” (a term for Jews usually confined to Ku Klux Klan websites), dubbed the Auschwitz death camp “a cash cow,” sang about rockets being fired at Tel Aviv and expressed approval for both attacks on Parisian synagogues in 2014 and the shooting of four Jews in a Paris supermarket the following year. A number of students belonging to the club spoke to the newspaper following the failure of the group’s national leadership to publish the results of an internal investigation more than a week after its completion.

The Labour Club first came under fire last month due to the resignation of Oxford co-chairman Alex Chalmers, who alleged that “the attitudes of certain members of the club toward certain disadvantaged groups was becoming poisonous.” “Whether it be members of the executive throwing around the term ‘Zio’ with casual abandon, senior members of the club expressing their ‘solidarity’ with Hamas and explicitly defending their tactics of indiscriminately murdering civilians, or a former co-chair claiming that ‘most accusations of anti-Semitism are just the Zionists crying wolf,’ a large proportion of both [Oxford University Labour Club] and the student[s] left in Oxford more generally have some kind of problem with Jews,” Chalmers lamented on Facebook.

Soon afterward, an investigation was announced, with the club’s leadership stating that it “wholeheartedly” condemned anti-Semitism and that it would cooperate with the investigation, encouraging its members to come forward. Members of the group who did testify, however, were soon disillusioned, turning to the press rather than wait for the results to be published. Last month, the group received a harsh repudiation by former Labour chief Ed Miliband, who announced he would not speak at Oxford until the investigation was completed. Meanwhile, writing in Jewish News, Labour MPs Michael Dugher and Rachel Reeves called the group’s decision to endorse Israel Apartheid Week “ignorant, offensive and deeply unfair.”

“How we deal with allegations of anti-Semitism and racism inside our party is a big test for Labour,” the lawmakers stated, asserting that while it was admirable that an investigation was conducted, it was disappointing that the resulting report had not been public. The British-Jewish community has been vocal in its anger over the anti-Semitism scandal, with Jonathan Arkush, an Oxford alumnus and president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, stating last month that “the stench of anti-Semitism now appears to have permeated the Oxford University Labour Club at my old university.” “As we have often warned, this is in part a direct result of the anti-Israel bigotry, prevalent in the far Left, and in part from the fact that Israel is used as a pretext for racism directed against Jews. The Labour Party and Oxford University must now take rigorous and credible measures to rid themselves of all anti-Semitic and racist elements.”

Britain’s Zionist Federation also called Labor to the carpet, stating that while virulent anti-Semitism used to be associated with “right-wing thugs,” it now appears to be “almost de rigueur amongst left-wing intellectuals.” “But the rot goes beyond a few bad apples – it’s not surprising that Labour students glorify Hamas when their own party leader, Jeremy Corbyn, has described them as a social justice movement whilst inviting them to Parliament. “The views and actions of these supposed socialists are now indistinguishable from those of fascists.”
Long seen as staunchly opposed to Israel, Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn held his first meeting with the senior leadership of organized British Jewry a week ago in which he offered his support for a two-state solution in what appeared to be an effort to mend fences.

During that meeting, Corbyn “resolved in strong terms to fight anti-Semitism from wherever it comes” and “rejected any sort of violence or intimidation such as occurred at King’s College London,” the Board of Deputies said on its website. Corbyn was referring to a January talk by former Shin Bet head Ami Ayalon, which was disrupted by pro-Palestinian demonstrators who turned violent, smashing a window, setting off fire alarms and unleashing “a tirade of verbal abuse, inches from the faces of many Jewish students,” according to witnesses.
Overall, London experienced a massive surge in anti-Semitism in 2015, with anti-Semitic incidents up more than 60 percent over the previous year.

According to Metropolitan Police, 483 anti-Semitic crimes were recorded during the 12-month period ending on November 15, while only 299 such incidents were recorded during the corresponding period in 2014, marking an increase of 61.5%.



http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Report-Oxford-students-laughed-at-attacks-on-Parisian-Jews-447097



More and more and more evidence of the rise of antisemitism by the left which also sees sort of Islamist terrorist groups
I hope this is properly investigating as its this hate and incitement that sees children die because of the hate they are indoctrinated with.
And people worry about Trump, when we are seeing the birth of real racist socialism that supports islamism.

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Post by nicko Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:56 am

Time these so called "students" got their heads down and did some studying instead of shouting their mouths off.
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Post by Guest Tue Mar 08, 2016 6:03 am

nicko wrote:Time these so called "students"   got their heads down and did some studying instead of shouting their mouths off.


And yet Nicko I am told the left are the champions of social injustices

What a crock of shit that is with the regressive left, as they are the instigators of hate and incitement to violence

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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:23 am

Is it the same lot who are objecting to the Rhodes statue?
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Post by Guest Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:46 am

Raggamuffin wrote:Is it the same lot who are objecting to the Rhodes statue?

Not sure Rags, and to be honest did not think of that.

It just shows you though that all this claim of hate to Zionism is a sham when people laugh at the murder of innocent Jews in France
Its absolutely disgusting and to be honest they should be kicked out of Oxford

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Post by nicko Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:18 am

Just read on my Facebook,,,,some Students are "worried" about a statue of Queen Victoria.

Just looked again and can't find it!
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Post by Guest Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:25 am

nicko wrote:Just read on my Facebook,,,,some Students are "worried"  about a statue of Queen Victoria.

Just looked again and can't find it!


https://www.rt.com/uk/334823-queen-victoria-statue-colonialism/

And the regressive left backtrack as they know people are getting sick to death of their pathetic demands.
They are like ISIS and would erase any British history Nicko


I mean just read this bullshit:



Activist Grace Almond (A fuckwit regressive), of the university’s women of color feminism society, said the campaign revealed how far racism is ingrained in the college.

“That some white students are so defensive over a statue of Queen Victoria, someone who sanctioned so many colonial exploits, shows you just how far white supremacy and racism is ingrained in our university. “Queen Victoria was implicitly involved in colonial exploits. She gave Cecil Rhodes a Royal Charter to lead an imperial conquest in southern Africa. If she hadn’t have given him this charter, he would not have been able to further colonization of that region of the continent on behalf of the monarchy,” she added.



The fact is these idiots think that people thought as we do today. They did not because they were brought up with different ideals and beliefs, which shows that humanity has progressed but these idiots are condemning based on the standards of today and not the standards and beliefs of the past. Its easy to condemn in hindsight events to things in the past which if these same people lived back then they never would have condemn. Yes wrongs were done in the past but again this is our history the good and the bad and these cretins are nothing more than idiots actually denying that history being told.

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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:36 am

What's ridiculous is the people are giving these students any credence. I used to be a student, and of course they get involved in "causes" because that's what students do. Nobody took much notice then, but they seem to nowadays.
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Post by Original Quill Tue Mar 08, 2016 6:16 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:What's ridiculous is the people are giving these students any credence. I used to be a student, and of course they get involved in "causes" because that's what students do. Nobody took much notice then, but they seem to nowadays.

The insecurity of the right, as the causes of old, white men fall out of favor. Same thing is going on in this country...perhaps even more advanced. Look at Donald Trump. A whole flock of knuckle-draggers up in arms about female uppitiness and loser POWs.

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Post by 'Wolfie Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:10 am

scratch

Whenever I hear about any of these student laughs, demonstrations and "protests" these days, from either side (or no sides..), I ask myself two questions :

1. How many students are there at those institutions ?

Average uni's usually have 10-15,000 students, while some of those bigger and older ones might have 30-60,000.. 

2.  How many students were involved in those demonstrations ?

Somtimes it's only a hundred or two' people involved. In those cases that might only represent a fraction or so of one percent of the total student body..

A bit different to the turnouts they had during the Vietnam War (I was still in Primary school, back in the late '60's..); and during some of the more important issues...
Sometimes it's more telling to look at just where some of these minor incidents are being reported..

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Post by Guest Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:20 am

I do not care if its only one or two

Any students cheering or laughing at the victims of terrorist attacks in France based on a hate of Israel is disgusting and they should be thrown out of the University

That is the worst form of antisemitism making all Jews culpable for anything Israel does

And this is the major problem, the claim people say they are against Zionists is a load of bullshit, what they really mean is they hate Jews.

I mean for example we have the SNP a Scottish nationalist Party, who want an independent Scottish nation through self determination. Does anyone then hate all SNP supporters for wanting a historical nation of their own?

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Post by Raggamuffin Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:25 am

I don't think they could throw students for laughing at something, but if the Labour Party Club is seen as representing the University, that's a different matter, and the club should be under fire.


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Post by Guest Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:34 am

Well Rags, lets see what the investigation produces as there is is there is clearly a case for incitement they could well be removed

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Post by Irn Bru Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:49 am

What happened with these people was in very poot taste and they should be ashamed of themselves. If any of them are actually members of the Labour Party they should be booted out. But Labour don't have the copyright on this sort of stuff because the Tory Oxford Conservatives were doing pretty much the same themselves.

Oxford Tories' nights of port and Nazi songs

But the student body, whose patron is Baroness Thatcher, is facing potentially the biggest crisis in its history after its own officers accused members of anti-Semitism, debauchery and snobbery at its alcohol-fuelled meetings.

Four of the Association’s most senior members have announced they will be resigning after members allegedly sang a Nazi-themed song, while others complained that members from working-class backgrounds were ridiculed by a clique of former public schoolboys.

Students are now facing possible disciplinary action by both the University and the Conservative Party, both of which have launched investigations.

OUCA, whose honorary president is William Hague, uses its website to promote a public image of studious debate, with recent guest speakers including Sir John Major and Iain Duncan Smith.

At its weekly “port and policy” meetings, however, drunkenness and discrimination have been the main items on the agenda, according to some disillusioned members.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/8870909/Oxford-Tories-nights-of-port-and-Nazi-songs.html

And then there was Aidan Burley - a Tory Front Bench Minister involved in the Nazi themed stag party in France. He resigned a a PPS but he still sat on the Tory benches as an MP until the 2015 election. And lathough no longer an MP he is still a member of the Tory party.

So when I look again at this thread I'll expect to see equal condemnation of the Oxford Tories and Aiden Burley.

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:10 am

Irn Bru wrote:

And then there was Aidan Burley - a Tory Front Bench Minister involved in the Nazi themed stag party in France. He resigned a a PPS but he still sat on the Tory benches as an MP until the 2015 election. And lathough no longer an MP he is still a member of the Tory party.

So when I look again at this thread I'll expect to see equal condemnation of the Oxford Tories and Aiden Burley.



What has this article 5 years old have to do with the massive and growing problem of antisemitism within the Labour party?

You have not even condemn but said poor taste?

Its blatant racism, so your sham of a condemnation just wont cut it?

The Labour Party is rife with antisemitism

So keep up to date with what is relevant there is a good chap

If any Tories have been found guilty of antisemitism, then I will happily condemn them

You do have the follow up findings on this old article you posted up

Or are you trying to down play those within Labour with about the poorest deflection going?


http://www.newsfixboard.com/t14911-if-you-attack-israelis-jeremy-corbyn-wants-to-be-your-friend


http://www.newsfixboard.com/t14806-labour-member-in-anti-semitic-rant-let-off-with-a-warning


http://www.newsfixboard.com/t14893-antisemitic-anti-zionism-and-the-scandal-of-oxford-university-labour-club


http://www.newsfixboard.com/t15140-over-zealous-attacks-on-israel-anti-semitism-by-proxy-says-labour-mp-chris-bryant



At least the last article and for a lefty is honest and does not go off events 5 years ago to deflect a huge problem in the labour party

You see Irn, that is real honesty, with along with integrity, two human traits you completely lack

Now if you want to start an article on Tory antisemitism and its history and show its relevant for today, be my guest and will happily engage, condemn if evidence you present shows antisemitism

On this stick to the topic at hand and relevant in the media today

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Post by Irn Bru Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:16 pm

Yes, I said poor taste and they should be booted out of the Labour party so don’t miss out anything in future. And all you could come out with about the Oxford Tories was that you would happily condemn them but nowhere near the level of condemnation you had for the Oxford Labour students. And no surprise that you avoided mentioning Aiden Burley and the Nazi themed party that he was involved n or that he wasn’t booted out of the Tory Party and remained on the Government benches. He was also accused of texting and dozing off during a presentation by a holocaust survivor and yet you failed to condemn him.

You have comprehensively failed the test I set you

Student Tories accused of racist jokes about Muslims, Jews and ‘retarded plebs’

http://thetab.com/2014/08/04/tory-society-thrown-into-disarray-amid-claims-of-anti-semitism-19455?noset

Conservative candidate makes vile Jewish racist slur against Ed Miliband

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/conservative-candidate-makes-vile-jewish-5588308


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Post by Guest Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:07 pm

Irn Bru wrote:Yes, I said poor taste and they should be booted out of the Labour party so don’t miss out anything in future.  And all you could come out with about the Oxford Tories was that you would happily condemn them but nowhere near the level of condemnation you had for the Oxford Labour students. And no surprise that you avoided mentioning Aiden Burley and the Nazi themed party that he was involved n or that he wasn’t booted out of the Tory Party and remained on the Government benches. He was also accused of texting and dozing off during a presentation by a holocaust survivor and yet you failed to condemn him.

You have comprehensively failed the test I set you  

Student Tories accused of racist jokes about Muslims, Jews and ‘retarded plebs’

http://thetab.com/2014/08/04/tory-society-thrown-into-disarray-amid-claims-of-anti-semitism-19455?noset

Conservative candidate makes vile Jewish racist slur against Ed Miliband

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/conservative-candidate-makes-vile-jewish-5588308



More poor deflections again start another thread if you want to talk about the Tories, as this is on the growing problem of antisemitism within Labour and then I will happily state they should not only be arrested but charged for a hate crime

So back tot he topic of this debate, or are you going to do everything possible to deny talking about the issues presented in this article?

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Post by Irn Bru Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:09 am

I have condemned the Oxford students both Tory and Labour. You were a bit short on the condemnation of the Tories which didn't quite match your condemnation of the Oxford Labour students and again you failed with Aiden Burley the Nazi man.

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:44 am

You are doing nothing to talk about the issue and you take the words of this islamist appeaser part of "stop the warcoalition" that has blatant antisemitism within this group

https://shirazsocialist.wordpress.com/2015/12/13/the-articles-that-stop-the-war-has-tried-to-delete/

http://www.jewishnews.co.uk/stop-the-war-deleted-controversial-articles-including-one-advocating-war-with-israel/

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/corbyn-may-say-hes-not-anti-semitic-but-associating-with-the-people-he-does-is-its-own-crime-10487318.html

http://ukmediawatch.org/tag/stop-the-war-coalition/

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:08 am

Jeremy Corbyn has been criticised by a senior Labour MP for failing to stamp out anti-Semitism within the party after a series of allegations that some of its members are hostile to Jews. Louise Ellman, who is herself Jewish, said that while Mr Corbyn had spoken out about the issue, not enough was being done to actually tackle the problem.

She said that party members were being allowed to “get away” with posting anti-Semitic comments online. “Some are being allowed to get away with posting anti-Semitic comments in their tweets and on their websites. I have raised this in parliamentary meetings. “The leader has spoken out clearly that he is against anti-Semitism but it is not just about words, there has got to be some action, and we haven’t seen enough of that.”

Her comments came after a series of incidents involving anti-Semitic comments by Labour activists including one, Vicky Kirby, who was suspended after posting a series of tweets referring to Jews with “big noses” and describing Hitler as a “Zionist God” but allowed to return and become vice-chair of her local party. She was later suspended again when her case attracted publicity, after MP Wes Streeting claimed party members were cutting up their membership cards in disgust over her readmission.

The chairman of the Oxford University Labour Club recently resigned, saying a “large proportion” of its members had “some kind of problem with Jews”, while the shadow leader of the Commons, Chris Bryant, has also raised concerns. Shadow chancellor John McDonnell, a close ally of Mr Corbyn, insisted they were committed to dealing with the issue. “You can be a critic of the Israeli state and its role, but you mustn’t allow that to in any way be used by anti-Semites. We’ve got to root that out and we will do,” he told BBC1’s The Andrew Marr Show.

Mr Corbyn said in March that anti-semitism was “totally unacceptable”. This came after Luciana Berger, another Jewish Labour MP, tweeted an example of some of the anti-Semitic tweets she receives. “I am very concerned about anti-Semitism in the Labour Party. Most members of the Labour Party are not anti-Semitic but some are,” she told Sky News’s Murnaghan programme.


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More to read on the link and I suppose Irn is going to come up with yet more excuses when more and more Labour MP's are exposing this racism

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