Jeremy Corbyn: I pledge to give power back to the people if Labour are elected

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:37 am

The Labour leader says that without us, British democracy will die - and this is the very time when we are needed most

Labour Party Jeremy Corbyn: I pledge to give power back to the people if Labour are elected Jeremy-Corbyn

Democracy Day: Corbyn wants to “advance the rights of the common man and woman”
Do you vote? Perhaps you feel that marking your X won’t make any difference.
It may be you are one of nearly a million people who have gone missing since the way we register to vote was changed by this Government.
But without you, our democracy dies. And this is the very time when you are needed most.
That’s because we are now at risk of having a zombie democracy roaming around a one-party state.
No, I haven’t been binge-watching Doctor Who. But I have been watching with ever more worry how a right-wing Conservative party is grabbing the chance to lock itself into power for generations.
When my colleague, Gloria De Piero, our shadow minister for young people, met a group of young women recently to discuss what place politics had in their lives, it was no great surprise to learn that they had no faith in politicians.

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Jeremy Corbyn: I pledge to give power back to the people if Labour are elected Gloria-De-Piero

The future: Gloria De Piero, centre, met with young women to discuss politics
Of these eight young women – all intelligent, all doing their bit for society – seven had never, ever voted.
To them, they are merely abiding by the cynical old wisecrack: ‘don’t vote, it only encourages them’.
Across the western world, younger people are making clear they are fed up with the raw deal that they are getting.
A lifetime’s worth of debt, sofa surfing or stuck at home. Lousy jobs, insecurity and a planet in crisis because of previous generations’ leaders. This is not a happy future to bequeath our kids.
For the first time in modern memory, our children will be worse off than their parents.

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Issue of transparency: Does the man on the street trust politicians any longer?
The eight young women, brought together by charity the Young Women’s Trust, may see politics as ‘boring’ or politicians as ‘liars’.
But they, and countless fed-up would-be voters like them, are needed more than ever because we now face nothing less than a defence of British democracy.
Next week, the Conservative Government will press on with the latest bid to tighten their grip on power.

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No laughing matter: Cameron, right, and George Osborne are entrenching their party
Their anti-worker trade union bill will come before the Lords, most of whom see it as a spiteful, needless act that will only undermine long-standing efforts by decent employers and trades unions to improve industrial relations.
The bill has been ripped to shreds by everyone from the business paper, the Financial Times – which describes it as a backwards move – to the Government’s own advisers who described it as “not fit for purpose”.
Read more: Corbyn accuses Tories of trying to create "Zombie democracy"
Sensible Tory MPs have denounced it as something you would expect to find in the Spain of dictator General Franco.
So why does the Government press on with something almost universally attacked as bad for Britain?
Because it fits with their bigger project. Just as they are skewing economic life so that wealth is funnelled towards the 1% and away from working people, so now the party of privilege is taking us back to the days when the people were locked out of power.
Put together their attacks on unions with their rush to redraw parliamentary constituency boundaries so that the Tories have an easier path to stay in office in 2020.
Add in their moves to starve all opposition parties, not just Labour, of the few quid in state money that they rely on to function – while doing nothing to trouble the high-rolling donors who dance the night away at the Tories’ Black and White Ball.

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Message from the PM: Seeking funding from the privileged in our society
Then there is their menacing of the BBC and their sinister message to charities to shut up or be shut down.
Current moves in Poland to unpick freedom of speech and spare the government scrutiny have so alarmed MPs there, they warn of a “creeping coup d’etat”.
But this week, the United Nations warned our Government that its moves to destroy free trade unions are in breach of international law. Time then that those who care for British freedoms find their voice too.
We always knew it was an embarrassingly hollow claim when the Tory party claimed to be the party of the working people. But now we can see that it is also deeply unpatriotic.
Read more: Celebrities urge Cameron to save Calais Jungle children
These islands are rightly known across the world as a cradle of free speech. Our history sings with the voices of protest and opposition, from the Peasants’ Revolt in the 14th century to the 1930s Jarrow and hunger marches to the million-strong demonstration against the Iraq War.

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Courage needed: We must step up like the Jarrow marchers

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Don't attack Iraq: Corbyn was part of momentous protest in London
The movements that sprang from our streets and workplaces have won the only advances ever made by working people.
We have had less than a century of votes for all in this country. Our rights to vote and give voice to our concerns and demands are precious and very much part of what marks Britain out as a free and modern nation.

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Cradle of democracy: One that must be protected against Tory attacks
That’s why the commitment I give to you is that a Labour Government will put the people back in power.
We will declare an annual Democracy Day, when my government stands before Parliament to declare what we have done to roll back Tory attacks and advance the rights of the common man and woman.
So I beg of you: do not choose inaction over rightful anger. Don’t be silenced. Register to vote. Defend your trade unions. Be a thorn in the Government’s side. Stand up against the one-party state.
The defence of our liberty begins today.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyn-pledge-give-power-7397428

We are getting very close to a fascists state and it must be stopped.

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:39 am

by Raggamuffin Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:46 am

That was all a bit vague really.

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:49 am

Actually is was completely detailed, but there you go.

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:54 am

Does not actually say anything in regards to what will be done..
No doubt give away the Falklands
Surrender the UK to ISIS
Fund weapons and Nukes to Hamas

Yeah am sure he will give many things away

by Raggamuffin Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:57 am

sassy wrote:Actually is was completely detailed, but there you go.

It's not. Could you not pick out a few bits and discuss them rather than just pasting a load of vague stuff?

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:59 am

Why don't you actually read it, and then discuss. I don't want to discuss 'a few bits', I would like to discuss the overall concept of how our democracy is under attack and the details of how it is under attack were given.

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:02 am

I thought the thread was about giving power back to the people, not democracy under attack which is of course babble

by Raggamuffin Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:02 am

sassy wrote:Why don't you actually read it, and then discuss. I don't want to discuss 'a few bits', I would like to discuss the overall concept of how our democracy is under attack and the details of how it is under attack were given.

I have read it, and it's just waffle.

How do you think our democracy is under attack then?

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:07 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:Why don't you actually read it, and then discuss. I don't want to discuss 'a few bits', I would like to discuss the overall concept of how our democracy is under attack and the details of how it is under attack were given.

I have read it, and it's just waffle.

How do you think our democracy is under attack then?

OFGS, it's in the article.

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:08 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:Why don't you actually read it, and then discuss. I don't want to discuss 'a few bits', I would like to discuss the overall concept of how our democracy is under attack and the details of how it is under attack were given.

I have read it, and it's just waffle.

How do you think our democracy is under attack then?

by Raggamuffin Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:10 am

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I have read it, and it's just waffle.

How do you think our democracy is under attack then?

OFGS, it's in the article.

I want to know what you think, not what JC thinks - he's too vague, like most politicians.

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:13 am

Rags, you can keep on about the vague, but it is not vague, every single way it is being threatened is set out. I can't be doing with spoonfeeding. Our democracy is under threat and we should be fighting every step of the way against it. And I'm very pleased to say I know so many who will be doing just that. As detailed above, there are even Conservatives who are seriously worried about this, and at a local level are joining us in the fight.

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:13 am

Jackanory

by Raggamuffin Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:17 am

sassy wrote:Rags, you can keep on about the vague, but it is not vague, every single way it is being threatened is set out. I can't be doing with spoonfeeding. Our democracy is under threat and we should be fighting every step of the way against it. And I'm very pleased to say I know so many who will be doing just that. As detailed above, there are even Conservatives who are seriously worried about this, and at a local level are joining us in the fight.

Let me help you out here. First of all, the voting system:

These are the issues which were raised:

1. The way people register to vote has changed,.

2. Some people can't be arsed to vote, or don't like any of the political parties.

That's about it. Any comments?

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:19 am

Rags, we already had a thread about that. This is a bigger picture, it's about the combination of every attack by the Conservatives JOINED TOGETHER and how that, TAKEN AS A WHOLE would result in the British public being led down the path of a one party state, without any way of changing it.

by Raggamuffin Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:22 am

sassy wrote:Rags, we already had a thread about that. This is a bigger picture, it's about the combination of every attack by the Conservatives JOINED TOGETHER and how that, TAKEN AS A WHOLE would result in the British public being led down the path of a one party state, without any way of changing it.

Look, the article is one big piece of waffle, interspersed with random photographs. I'm trying to get you to actually discuss it in detail, but you don't seem interested. Labour won't get anywhere if they just keep bitching about the Tories. They've been doing that for years, and the Tories still won the last election.

How will the UK become a one-party state with the present electoral system? Try to answer that one.

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:26 am

The answer is above, in detail. Really easy to understand with all the reasons given and the actions that the Tories are taking that will lead to it.

by Raggamuffin Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:28 am

sassy wrote:The answer is above, in detail. Really easy to understand with all the reasons given and the actions that the Tories are taking that will lead to it.

No it's not. If you can't discuss this before moving onto yet another thread about Israel, which you also won't bother to discuss, there's just no point.

by Raggamuffin Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:29 am

I mean, if you're going to help Labour get back in, what are you going to say to anyone who asks you about their policies? Are you just going to tell them to read the manifesto and roll your eyes at them?

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:31 am

There is certainly no point when every detail of what the Tories are doing is set out above, including the United Nations warning, but you can't seem to take it in.

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:33 am

Raggamuffin wrote:I mean, if you're going to help Labour get back in, what are you going to say to anyone who asks you about their policies? Are you just going to tell them to read the manifesto and roll your eyes at them?

No Rags, I'm going to tell them about the Tory attacks on democracy AS SET OUT ABOVE and then discuss with them what we can do about it.

by Raggamuffin Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:34 am

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:I mean, if you're going to help Labour get back in, what are you going to say to anyone who asks you about their policies? Are you just going to tell them to read the manifesto and roll your eyes at them?

No Rags, I'm going to tell them about the Tory attacks on democracy AS SET OUT ABOVE and then discuss with them what we can do about it.

Well you haven't managed to do that here.

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:35 am

Because you want to discuss leaves instead of the forest and I would be getting them to join the fight to keep the forest.

by Fuzzy Zack Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:37 am

There is one thing I think everyone believes (including the extreme right and left wing) is that democracy is dead or at best, we've only had an illusion of democracy.

And of course, if you break it down you find that we are still very much run by the establishment. We don't get to vote in an election but a "selection". That's not democracy.

Corbyn has the reputation for honesty but I'm not sure of he has the "Bernie Sanders" to pull it off.

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:39 am

The Tories are coming at democracy with all the reasons set out above, and if we don't stand up against it, we will end up with a one party state. The Unions will be silenced and the working man will have no voice, the charities have been effectively gagged, the Tories are making sure that the ONLY donations will be to them and the state funding for parties now will be massively undercut so that their billionaires can run the country, and the boundary changes will make sure they have a huge advantage.

Now all that IS SET OUT ABOVE Rags

by Fuzzy Zack Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:43 am

All parties have tried to fix the electorate by dividing the constituencies to suit them. If anything, this process should be done independently and not by the party.

Personally, I have a problem with "party politics". MP's vote for their party and not their constituents. That ain't democracy either.

Another point: if you're elected on a mandate, politicians must not be allowed to drift from their manifesto without a referendum.

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:44 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:There is one thing I think everyone believes (including the extreme right and left wing) is that democracy is dead or at best, we've only had an illusion of democracy.

And of course, if you break it down you find that we are still very much run by the establishment. We don't get to vote in an election but a "selection". That's not democracy.

Corbyn has the reputation for honesty but I'm not sure of he has the "Bernie Sanders" to pull it off.

Well, the one thing that Saunders doesn't have against him is the Murdoch press and the BBC (run by Osborn's best friend)

Take for example the different style of reported when their are differences of opinion in the Shadow Cabinet and the Cabinet. It's blatant.

by Raggamuffin Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:45 am

sassy wrote:The Tories are coming at democracy with all the reasons set out above, and if we don't stand up against it, we will end up with a one party state. The Unions will be silenced and the working man will have no voice, the charities have been effectively gagged, the Tories are making sure that the ONLY donations will be to them and the state funding for parties now will be massively undercut so that their billionaires can run the country, and the boundary changes will make sure they have a huge advantage.

Now all that IS SET OUT ABOVE.

No Sassy, you can't just shove leaflets at people and shout at them if they ask you questions and shriek "IT'S ALL IN THE LEAFLET".

Look, if you say to someone - the Tories are turning this country into a one-party state, they're going to say - well how are they doing that Sassy when people are free to vote for whichever party they like? What are you going to say to that?

Secondly, I'll refer you to your own signature. You've said that right wing people say - "if there's nothing in it for me, then I'm not interested". I assume you're including Tory voters in that. What then are you going to say to a Tory voter who asks - "what's in it for me if I vote Labour?"?

by Raggamuffin Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:46 am

sassy wrote:Because you want to discuss leaves instead of the forest and I would be getting them to join the fight to keep the forest.

Well what if you encounter other people who like attention to detail and aren't impressed by waffle? You'll find that I'm not the only one.

by Fuzzy Zack Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:46 am

sassy wrote:
Fuzzy Zack wrote:There is one thing I think everyone believes (including the extreme right and left wing) is that democracy is dead or at best, we've only had an illusion of democracy.

And of course, if you break it down you find that we are still very much run by the establishment. We don't get to vote in an election but a "selection". That's not democracy.

Corbyn has the reputation for honesty but I'm not sure of he has the "Bernie Sanders" to pull it off.

Well, the one thing that Saunders doesn't have against him is the Murdoch press and the BBC (run by Osborn's best friend)

Take for example the different style of reported when their are differences of opinion in the Shadow Cabinet and the Cabinet. It's blatant.

Saunders is taking advantage of the fact that the young don't get their news from the mainstream media but online. That's what Corbyn has to do and did, for his own election as party leader.

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:46 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:All parties have tried to fix the electorate by dividing the constituencies to suit them. If anything, this process should be done independently and not by the party.

Personally, I have a problem with "party politics". MP's vote for their party and not their constituents. That ain't democracy either.

Another point: if you're elected on a mandate, politicians must not be allowed to drift from their manifesto without a referendum.

Absolutely agree about the constituences being set independently.

The Conservatives haven't just 'drifted' from their manifesto, they have waved it goodbye.

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by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:48 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
sassy wrote:

Well, the one thing that Saunders doesn't have against him is the Murdoch press and the BBC (run by Osborn's best friend)

Take for example the different style of reported when their are differences of opinion in the Shadow Cabinet and the Cabinet. It's blatant.

Saunders is taking advantage of the fact that the young don't get their news from the mainstream media but online. That's what Corbyn has to do and did, for his own election as party leader.

He's really using it now. When you compare his news outlets over social media and Cameron's it makes me laugh. Cameron's is like dictats from on high, Jez is talking about what people are worried about and answering their questions.

by Raggamuffin Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:53 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:There is one thing I think everyone believes (including the extreme right and left wing) is that democracy is dead or at best, we've only had an illusion of democracy.

And of course, if you break it down you find that we are still very much run by the establishment. We don't get to vote in an election but a "selection". That's not democracy.

Corbyn has the reputation for honesty but I'm not sure of he has the "Bernie Sanders" to pull it off.

How is that not democracy? One could say that the "simple majority" system isn't fair, but people rejected the idea of proportional representation. In any case, in each constituency the winning party still has to get more votes than any other party, and that's down to the people who are voting.

by Fuzzy Zack Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:56 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Fuzzy Zack wrote:There is one thing I think everyone believes (including the extreme right and left wing) is that democracy is dead or at best, we've only had an illusion of democracy.

And of course, if you break it down you find that we are still very much run by the establishment. We don't get to vote in an election but a "selection". That's not democracy.

Corbyn has the reputation for honesty but I'm not sure of he has the "Bernie Sanders" to pull it off.

How is that not democracy? One could say that the "simple majority" system isn't fair, but people rejected the idea of proportional representation. In any case, in each constituency the winning party still has to get more votes than any other party, and that's down to the people who are voting.

It's not about the voting process but WHO you vote for.

Your candidates for each constituency are "selected" by the party and not nominated by the local residents.

by Raggamuffin Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:59 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

How is that not democracy? One could say that the "simple majority" system isn't fair, but people rejected the idea of proportional representation. In any case, in each constituency the winning party still has to get more votes than any other party, and that's down to the people who are voting.

It's not about the voting process but WHO you vote for.

Your candidates for each constituency are "selected" by the party and not nominated by the local residents.

Yes of course, but do most people actually care about that? They're voting for the party, not an individual, in most cases. They're probably even voting for the leader of the party.

by Major Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:01 am

It would add greatly to this post if Sassy would answer questions in her own words, not that she is forced to do such.

by Major Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:03 am

Put a sailors cap on Corvine and we have another Captain Birdseye. lol

by Fuzzy Zack Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:05 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Fuzzy Zack wrote:

It's not about the voting process but WHO you vote for.

Your candidates for each constituency are "selected" by the party and not nominated by the local residents.

Yes of course, but do most people actually care about that? They're voting for the party, not an individual, in most cases. They're probably even voting for the leader of the party.

We don't care becuase most people are disillusioned by the system.

We have been conditioned by the establishment to accept the system. This is what Corbyn and Saunders want to change but for me, party politics is part of the problem.

I think the whole voting system needs to change so that we do vote for MP's to represent the constituents and not the party.

I actually think we need to move to a non-partisan presidential system, so people can vote who represents them locally and nationally.

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:06 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

How is that not democracy? One could say that the "simple majority" system isn't fair, but people rejected the idea of proportional representation. In any case, in each constituency the winning party still has to get more votes than any other party, and that's down to the people who are voting.

It's not about the voting process but WHO you vote for.

Your candidates for each constituency are "selected" by the party and not nominated by the local residents.

It's a fair point, and here Jane was selected by the CLP, but she was also voted as the best representative of the area because of all the work she puts in. In fact, I would say that here, if you asked anyone, no matter what party, they would give her the thumbs up, she has helped so many people.

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:08 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Yes of course, but do most people actually care about that? They're voting for the party, not an individual, in most cases. They're probably even voting for the leader of the party.

We don't care becuase most people are disillusioned by the system.

We have been conditioned by the establishment to accept the system. This is what Corbyn and Saunders want to change but for me, party politics is part of the problem.

I think the whole voting system needs to change so that we do vote for MP's to represent the constituents and not the party.

I actually think we need to move to a non-partisan presidential system, so people can vote who represents them locally and nationally.

Only one thing wrong with that Zack, it would mean that those with the most money to promote themselves would be more likely to be elected. And then, what are you going to do about Government, you can't have a collection of individuals, they have to be linked by something. Great idea though.

by Raggamuffin Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:09 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Yes of course, but do most people actually care about that? They're voting for the party, not an individual, in most cases. They're probably even voting for the leader of the party.

We don't care becuase most people are disillusioned by the system.

We have been conditioned by the establishment to accept the system. This is what Corbyn and Saunders want to change but for me, party politics is part of the problem.

I think the whole voting system needs to change so that we do vote for MP's to represent the constituents and not the party.

I actually think we need to move to a non-partisan presidential system, so people can vote who represents them locally and nationally.

I think it's always been that way Zack. People want a particular party to win, not a particular MP. How many people actually contact their MP anyway? Not many I bet.

In order to get MPs who represent constituents and not the party, you'd have to get rid of political parties altogether really. Then again, there are usually a few independents around, but they don't often get elected do they?

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:13 am

I would add that just about everyone around here knows Jane and the great things she does. We had a terrible fire here not long ago, which meant many people lost their things and a roof over their head. Within an hour Jane had fot people together and found them clothes, toys for the kids and somewhere to stay and a town meeting to make sure they were looked after until the 'paperwork' was sorted. That's how a prospective MP, or MP, should be. I doubt anyone knows or talks to the Conservative MP, he wouldn't dirty his hands. Being a country town, it's total Conservative country and they had a huge majority (Tim Yeo's ex constituency). But at the last election she got an extra 20,000 votes and got it within touching distance, that was amazing.

by Major Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:23 am

Any alteration will still boil down to TRUST, where councillors, ministers are able to feather their own nests they will support anyone who will help line their pockets like promising them positions in office.

In politics if you do not toe the official line you are sidelined and harangued.

Seemingly good honest people will by the main eventually get their heads turned and feet in the trough where personal gain is waiting for them.

It is forever difficult to get someone you can really trust, so around and around and around we go again still being robbed by those we want to trust.

What is the answer, I don't know, doest thou?

by Raggamuffin Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:26 am

sassy wrote:I would add that just about everyone around here knows Jane and the great things she does. We had a terrible fire here not long ago, which meant many people lost their things and a roof over their head. Within an hour Jane had fot people together and found them clothes, toys for the kids and somewhere to stay and a town meeting to make sure they were looked after until the 'paperwork' was sorted. That's how a prospective MP, or MP, should be. I doubt anyone knows or talks to the Conservative MP, he wouldn't dirty his hands. Being a country town, it's total Conservative country and they had a huge majority (Tim Yeo's ex constituency). But at the last election she got an extra 20,000 votes and got it within touching distance, that was amazing.

She got 10,001 votes at the last general election.

by Major Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:47 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:I would add that just about everyone around here knows Jane and the great things she does. We had a terrible fire here not long ago, which meant many people lost their things and a roof over their head. Within an hour Jane had fot people together and found them clothes, toys for the kids and somewhere to stay and a town meeting to make sure they were looked after until the 'paperwork' was sorted. That's how a prospective MP, or MP, should be. I doubt anyone knows or talks to the Conservative MP, he wouldn't dirty his hands. Being a country town, it's total Conservative country and they had a huge majority (Tim Yeo's ex constituency). But at the last election she got an extra 20,000 votes and got it within touching distance, that was amazing.

She got 10,001 votes at the last general election.

"just about everyone around here knows Jane", Sassy stated.
In effect you are saying these 10,001 have met her, is that true or false?

by Raggamuffin Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:55 am

Stormee wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

She got 10,001 votes at the last general election.

"just about everyone around here knows Jane", Sassy stated.
In effect you are saying these 10,001 have met her, is that true or false?

She also didn't get an extra 20,000 votes, unless I misunderstood Sassy's post, or I'm looking at the wrong constituency.

I think it would be interesting to look at individual constituencies. South Suffolk has had quite a large Tory majority for many years, like some other rural constituencies. Why are the people voting for the Tories if they're so awful?

by The Devil, You Know Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:59 am

will that include the 200 or so labour mp's who want nothing to do with #Jihadijez ?

by Tommy Monk Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:38 pm

How is he planning on returning democracy to us when he is in favour of the EU controlling our parliament and our laws/rules/tegulations...!?

by Tommy Monk Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:01 pm

And as usual, sassy is asked a question that scuppers her whole bullshit claim, and she runs away...!!!

Most amusing!!!

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