The Undemocratic Democratic party
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The Undemocratic Democratic party
http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/do-super-delegates-rig-the-democratic-primaries-in-hillary-clintons-favour/news-story/590348429e8eb7fcbee22961c2a909aaClinton’s critics pointed to signs that voters don’t trust her, contrasting that to Sanders’ undeniable authenticity. They’re right too. Among voters who said they cared most about the candidates’ “honesty and trustworthiness”, Sanders led 92-6.
Whatever its causes, the effect of Sanders’ triumph was stark. After the first two contests of the primary campaign (Clinton scraped to a razor thin victory in Iowa a week earlier), he holds a commanding 56-42 per cent lead nationally.
Now for the crazy part: even though he’s received 56,000 more votes than Clinton, Sanders is actually losing.
He can blame the Democrats’ complex nomination process, which many of his supporters claim is “rigged” in Clinton’s favour. Under this system, Sanders’ big national lead is utterly irrelevant.
Clinton and Sanders are instead competing for “delegates”, who are assigned to them state-by-state. Some states award their delegates proportionally, based on each candidate’s percentage of the vote, while others simply award all their delegates to whoever finishes first.
Make sense so far? Kind of? Good, because it’s about to get even more convoluted. In addition to these regular delegates, there are also a total of 712 “super delegates” — party leaders and elected officials who can ignore the voters and support whomever they like. At the moment, Clinton has 98 per cent of them in her corner.
The result? After Iowa and New Hampshire, Clinton trails Sanders with 42 per cent of the vote, but destroys him in the one count that actually matters, with 90 per cent of the delegates.
Earned Delegates
Clinton: 32
Sanders: 36
Super Delegates
Clinton: 362
Sanders: 8
Total Delegates
Clinton: 394
Sanders: 44
Clinton is being propped up by the party’s unrepresentative establishment at the expense of an outsider with the support of ordinary Democratic voters.
At the time of writing, two petitions started by the progressive activist group MoveOn, both demanding that super delegates follow the will of the voters, had 322,000 signatures. It should be noted that MoveOn endorsed Sanders in January.
“This process is undemocratic and fundamentally unfair to Democratic primary voters,” the group’s executive director, Ilya Sheyman, said.
“Democracy only works when the votes of the people — not the decision of a small number of elites — are what determines the outcome of elections.
“Super delegates must stand with voters and honour the outcomes of primaries and caucuses held across the country. The party’s base simply will not tolerate any anti-democratic efforts by super delegates to thwart the will of the people.”
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That makes me feel quite sick, no wonder we never get any real change.
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And they are accepting donations of lighter fluid if they are low on gas.
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The Democrats are a political network of establishment insiders. It's just another corrupt "Good 'ole boy" network. Hence the Super Delegates: It's the party's Veto-button, just in case the peasants/voters grow a mind of their own and want to vote outside the rigged way.
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The superdelegates are Republicans as well as Democrats. Superdelegates are representative democracy as opposed to direct democracy. Need I say it? They are: a "republican" form of democracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate have: a veritable circus.
There is no backlash against Washington government generally, as conservative outsiders contend. There is a backlash against Republicans in government.
Republicans are in control of Congress, and have made such a mess of it--they have refused to pass a budget twice, they are responsible for the sequester, the refuse to pass a war bill against ISIS, they refuse to fund infrastructure repair, they refuse to address immigration, and they refuse to fund education, day-care, nutritional lunches and basic survival for many--and they want tax cuts for themselves, the wealthy--that their own voters want them out on their asses.
Republicans have always opposed Democrats, and vice-versa. So while it may appear Republicans are against all of Washington, it's another Republican misrepresentation. Inter-party competition is the normal way of two-party politics, and a part of the opposition to the Republican Congress. But this time it is added to the Republican Party voter's dissatisfaction with his own party.
When we finally get to the general election in November we will be introduced to the Democratic voters, and the independents, and we shall see how they feel about the Republican clown show. They will not express dissatisfaction so much with Washington insiders, as with Republicans who have so greatly screwed up Congress, and through it, all of government.
Before I end, let me pause to note that this all has come about because of the racism that has infected the Republican Party ever since Lee Atwater's southern strategy. The McConnell-Boehner doctrine (shut down government as long as a black man is president) has caused Republicans to become so poisonous that the American public simply wants nothing to do with them. They are through!
There is no backlash against Washington government generally, as conservative outsiders contend. There is a backlash against Republicans in government.
Republicans are in control of Congress, and have made such a mess of it--they have refused to pass a budget twice, they are responsible for the sequester, the refuse to pass a war bill against ISIS, they refuse to fund infrastructure repair, they refuse to address immigration, and they refuse to fund education, day-care, nutritional lunches and basic survival for many--and they want tax cuts for themselves, the wealthy--that their own voters want them out on their asses.
Republicans have always opposed Democrats, and vice-versa. So while it may appear Republicans are against all of Washington, it's another Republican misrepresentation. Inter-party competition is the normal way of two-party politics, and a part of the opposition to the Republican Congress. But this time it is added to the Republican Party voter's dissatisfaction with his own party.
When we finally get to the general election in November we will be introduced to the Democratic voters, and the independents, and we shall see how they feel about the Republican clown show. They will not express dissatisfaction so much with Washington insiders, as with Republicans who have so greatly screwed up Congress, and through it, all of government.
Before I end, let me pause to note that this all has come about because of the racism that has infected the Republican Party ever since Lee Atwater's southern strategy. The McConnell-Boehner doctrine (shut down government as long as a black man is president) has caused Republicans to become so poisonous that the American public simply wants nothing to do with them. They are through!
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