Home
Gallery
Search
Register
Log in
About Us & RulesThe new Palestinian people
Page 1 of 1
The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:46 am
Op-ed: MK Anat Berko says there is no such thing as a Palestinian people, and MK Azmi Bishara calls Palestinian nationality 'a colonial invention'. It may be historically true that there once was no such thing as a Palestinian people, but that doesn't mean there isn't one now.
There is no Palestinian people, said MK Anat Berko, creating a minor uproar. The late Golda Meir said the same thing before her. In fact, this has been an oft-repeated argument in recent decades. Former MK Azmi Bishara told Yaron London in an interview: "I do not think that there is a Palestinian people. There is an Arab nation. The Palestinian nation is a colonial invention. When did the Palestinians exist?"
Historically, Berko is correct. There was no Palestinian people. The name "Palestina” with a P was bestowed by Roman conquerors. It was named after the Philistines, who were not even Semitic, to annoy the Jews. The name was adopted later by the Christians, but not by the Jews. With the Muslim conquest, the "Jund Filastin" district was established, with Ramle being the district capital, not Jerusalem. Starting in the 11th century, this was no longer the case, either.
he name "Filistin" or" Filastin" was thrown around on occasion, but it did not connote a national identity. The whole area was considered part of A-Sham, or Greater Syria. In 1911, two Christian family members created the newspaper "Filistin," which supported the annexation of the area into Greater Syria.
In Mandatory Palestine, only Jewish institutions used the term Palestine-E.I. The Anglo-Palestine Bank became Bank Leumi and the Palestine postal service became the Israeli postal service. In contrast, the Arabs did not call themselves Palestinians during the Mandate, and no Arab Institution called itself Palestinian. The outstanding representatives were called the Arab Higher Committee rather than the Palestinian Higher Committee. At the head of the struggle against Zionism were Arabs, not necessarily from Mandatory Palestine. The identity that developed, insofar that it did develop, was an Arab one.
The mufti felt like a regional leader, not a local leader. Fawzi Kaukji, who was prominent in the uprising against the British and against Israel, was actually born in Tripoli. Ahmad Shukeiri, the first PLO chairman, was born to a Lebanese family who immigrated to Mandatory Palestine and he even served as the Saudi ambassador to the United Nations. He and his friends fought against Zionism and for the liberation of Palestine, but even they did not define themselves as Palestinians.
This continued for decades after the establishment of Israel. From 1949 to 1967, there was no British or Israeli rule over the West Bank and Gaza Strip. In these two decades, not ancient history but utterly contemporary, a separate Palestinian identity was not created. The more established Palestinian institutions were sponsored by the Arab states, as part of the struggles among themselves.
Needless to say, a Palestinian state was not established. Why? There was no occupation. King Hussein of Jordan made it clear during those years that “Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan," and that “Jordan in its two parts is the homeland of all the Palestinians."
Actually, the Six Day War and the Israeli conquest were the biggest catalysts for the development of a separate Palestinian national identity. The fact that there was no Palestinian people in the past does not mean that there is no Palestinian people today. Indeed, it is not clear what the difference is between Jordanians, Palestinians and the Syrians themselves. They have same language, religion, culture, and often shared tribal or familial kinship. But identity is a flexible matter sometimes. In any case, it is self-defined.
Logic says there is no need for a separate Palestinian state. Jordan already exists. And the one-state solution is unworthy of Jews and Palestinians. It is worthy of both banks of the Jordan River, east and west. Palestinian leaders, even the last two decades, have made every effort to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state. So Berko is right about the past. At present there is no need to deny Palestinian nationalism, because whoever denies it now will find themselves in a binational state in the future.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4766393,00.html
There is no Palestinian people, said MK Anat Berko, creating a minor uproar. The late Golda Meir said the same thing before her. In fact, this has been an oft-repeated argument in recent decades. Former MK Azmi Bishara told Yaron London in an interview: "I do not think that there is a Palestinian people. There is an Arab nation. The Palestinian nation is a colonial invention. When did the Palestinians exist?"
Historically, Berko is correct. There was no Palestinian people. The name "Palestina” with a P was bestowed by Roman conquerors. It was named after the Philistines, who were not even Semitic, to annoy the Jews. The name was adopted later by the Christians, but not by the Jews. With the Muslim conquest, the "Jund Filastin" district was established, with Ramle being the district capital, not Jerusalem. Starting in the 11th century, this was no longer the case, either.
he name "Filistin" or" Filastin" was thrown around on occasion, but it did not connote a national identity. The whole area was considered part of A-Sham, or Greater Syria. In 1911, two Christian family members created the newspaper "Filistin," which supported the annexation of the area into Greater Syria.
In Mandatory Palestine, only Jewish institutions used the term Palestine-E.I. The Anglo-Palestine Bank became Bank Leumi and the Palestine postal service became the Israeli postal service. In contrast, the Arabs did not call themselves Palestinians during the Mandate, and no Arab Institution called itself Palestinian. The outstanding representatives were called the Arab Higher Committee rather than the Palestinian Higher Committee. At the head of the struggle against Zionism were Arabs, not necessarily from Mandatory Palestine. The identity that developed, insofar that it did develop, was an Arab one.
The mufti felt like a regional leader, not a local leader. Fawzi Kaukji, who was prominent in the uprising against the British and against Israel, was actually born in Tripoli. Ahmad Shukeiri, the first PLO chairman, was born to a Lebanese family who immigrated to Mandatory Palestine and he even served as the Saudi ambassador to the United Nations. He and his friends fought against Zionism and for the liberation of Palestine, but even they did not define themselves as Palestinians.
This continued for decades after the establishment of Israel. From 1949 to 1967, there was no British or Israeli rule over the West Bank and Gaza Strip. In these two decades, not ancient history but utterly contemporary, a separate Palestinian identity was not created. The more established Palestinian institutions were sponsored by the Arab states, as part of the struggles among themselves.
Needless to say, a Palestinian state was not established. Why? There was no occupation. King Hussein of Jordan made it clear during those years that “Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan," and that “Jordan in its two parts is the homeland of all the Palestinians."
Actually, the Six Day War and the Israeli conquest were the biggest catalysts for the development of a separate Palestinian national identity. The fact that there was no Palestinian people in the past does not mean that there is no Palestinian people today. Indeed, it is not clear what the difference is between Jordanians, Palestinians and the Syrians themselves. They have same language, religion, culture, and often shared tribal or familial kinship. But identity is a flexible matter sometimes. In any case, it is self-defined.
Logic says there is no need for a separate Palestinian state. Jordan already exists. And the one-state solution is unworthy of Jews and Palestinians. It is worthy of both banks of the Jordan River, east and west. Palestinian leaders, even the last two decades, have made every effort to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state. So Berko is right about the past. At present there is no need to deny Palestinian nationalism, because whoever denies it now will find themselves in a binational state in the future.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4766393,00.html
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:50 am
Yep, the people who live there call is Falestine.
And the is no J is Hebrew - does that mean the Jewish people don't exist?
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:04 am
So nothing to refute the facts then and the fact the Arabs using the Nazi's terminology are colonizers also.
Anyway onto some more history.
Know Your History: Palestine, The Land Of Promise, 1922;
http://www.israellycool.com/2016/02/16/know-your-history-palestine-the-land-of-promise-1922/
Anyway onto some more history.
Know Your History: Palestine, The Land Of Promise, 1922;
A new series where I bring to you news from the newspaper archives to debunk common misconceptions about the Middle East conflict.
On Sept 24th, 1922, the New York Times featured an article on Palestine as a land of promise. It describes the positive impact of the Jewish pioneers on the land and economy, an impact also felt by the Arabs living there (even though they did not trust the Jews). The Jews are said to be cultivating an arid land, raising the standard of living for all inhabitants.
Clearly not the narrative the haters would have you believe – that we somehow came and plundered the land.
Also of particular note: the reverence with which the Jews hold the land, despite having limited access to Jewish holy places (even paying money to “insert a hand” into the supposed location of the Cave of Machpelah – yes, the “custodians” charged Jews for the benefit). There is also an acknowledgment that the Jewish holy places were there first, being subsequently taken over by other religions. Because back then, they admitted we were the indigenous people of the Holy land.
Note: I cannot provide a link to the full article since it is only available to those who have purchased a NY Times subscription. But I have provided screenshots below. As usual, click on the screenshots to enlarge.
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:05 am
A new series where I bring to you news from the newspaper archives to debunk common misconceptions about the Middle East conflict.
On November 2nd, 1917, the famous Balfour Declaration was sent from British Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Walter Rothschild for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.
In December 1917, the New York Times reported about a speech by politician and diplomatic adviser Sir Mark Sykes, who described British considerations of the document beyond the purely Zionist aspects.
Read the entire thing – as usual it is a fascinating insight into the thinking of the time – but note in particular:
- Sykes’ acknowledging Palestine as the “cradle of [the Jews’] race” and “religious center of his faith”
- Syke’s speaking of an Arab nation “one in language and in blood”
- The Arabs were “pre-nationalist,” and destined to become a great civilization
- Zionism could be the cause of great reconciliation between Jews, Muslims and Christians
Note: I cannot provide a link to the full article since it is only available to those who have purchased a NY Times subscription. But I have provided screenshots below. As usual, click on the screenshot to enlarge.
http://www.israellycool.com/2016/02/15/know-your-history-mark-sykes-post-balfour-declaration-1917/
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:07 am
A new series where I bring to you news from the newspaper archives to debunk common misconceptions about the Middle East conflict.
Back in March 1920, Prince Emir Faisal was proclaimed King of the Arab Kingdom of Syria (Greater Syria) by the Syrian National Congress government. However, it was short-lived, with the San Remo conference in April giving France the mandate for Syria, leading to the Franco-Syrian War and Faisal’s expulsion from Syria to the UK, before being made King of Iraq soon after.
You might recognize Faisal from this iconic photograph with Chaim Weizmann.
After signing the Faisal–Weizmann Agreement for Arab-Jewish Cooperation in 1919, Faisalsaid:
“We Arabs… look with the deepest sympathy on the Zionist movement. Our deputation here in Paris is fully acquainted with the proposals submitted yesterday by the Zionist Organisation to the Peace Conference, and we regard them as moderate and proper. We will do our best, insofar as we are concerned, to help them through; we will wish the Jews a most hearty welcome home… I look forward, and my people with me look forward, to a future in which we will help you and you will help us, so that the countries in which we are mutually interested may once again take their places in the community of the civilised peoples of the world.”
Faisal wanted Arab self-rule and believed the Arabs in Palestine at the time should be part of an undivided Arab empire including Palestine, Syria and Mesopotamia. He conditionally accepted the Balfour Declaration. In other words, he was someone who espoused pan-Arab nationalism yet acknowledged a Jewish homeland in “Palestine.”
This New York Times profile from March 28th, 1920 gives some fascinating insight into his views – and suggests he had much support within Palestine.
Note: I cannot provide a link to the full article since it is only available to those who have purchased a NY Times subscription. But I have provided screenshots below. As usual, click on the screenshots to enlarge.
http://www.israellycool.com/2016/02/14/know-your-history-prince-faisal-1920/
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:08 am
A new series where I bring to you news from the newspaper archives to debunk common misconceptions about the Middle East conflict.
One of the narratives we hear from the Israel haters is, in simple terms, the Jews came from Europe and stole the land from the Palestinian people.
Here is an article published in the New York Times on August 15, 1897, two weeks before Theodor Herzl convened the First Zionist Congress.
I have highlighted certain parts but it is worth reading the entire thing (you can magnify the screenshots by clicking on them).
The main points of interest:
- The modern Jewish settlement of the land was already happening in the 1800s
- Land was not being stolen from Arabs living there – it was being sold legally to Jews by the administering Ottoman-Turks
- There is no talk of an indigenous Palestinian Arab nation living there at the time, although of course there were Arabs living there, some of whom were even working with the Jews or on Jewish-owned land
- There was marked progress as the Jews bought up land and established industry and infrastructure
- There were more ancient Jewish settlements extant, and Arabian Jews living in the land in addition to the Jews from Europe
Note: I cannot provide a link to the full article since it is only available to those who have purchased a NY Times subscription. But I have provided screenshots below.
http://www.israellycool.com/2016/02/12/know-your-history-the-palestine-of-1897/
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:20 am
Fuzzy Zack wrote:Isn't Palestine mentioned in the Old Testament?
Doesn't that predate the Roman conquest?
Show us, please do
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:32 am
Fuzzy Zack wrote:Didge wrote:
Show us, please do
Isaiah 14:29
New International Version
Do not rejoice, all you Philistines, that the rod that struck you is broken; from the root of that snake will spring up a viper, its fruit will be a darting, venomous serpent.
Philistines
What an idiot lol
And that was a cluster of city states, who they were colonizers from the former Minoan islands.
It did not encompass all Israel, as there were Canaanite city states as well
Last edited by Didge on Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:34 am; edited 1 time in total
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:35 am
No that is just an English translation of Philistine and again it shows what an idiot you are based on geographically it was a smaller are and formed from colonizers as well
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:35 am
Fuzzy Zack wrote:Didge wrote:
Philistines
What an idiot lol
Are insults the only way you can attempt to win a debate? You sound like a philastine. ;-)
You're probably to uneducated to get that.
No just that you are one thick Muslim twat ha ha
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:36 am
Fuzzy Zack wrote:Palestine” in the Bible
by Paul Sumner
The names "Palestine" and "Palestina" occur four times in the Old Testament portion of the King James Bible (1611), the most influential English translation in history.
What have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Sidon,
and all the coasts of Palestine? (Joel 3:4a = 4:4a Heb)
The people shall hear, and be afraid;
sorrow shall take hold of the inhabitants of Palestina.
(Exod 15:14)
Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina ... (Isa 14:29a)
Howl, O gate; cry, O city,
thou whole Palestina, art dissolved. (Isa 14:31a)
A few English versions since the KJV occasionally use "Palestine." But most use the term "Philistia." For example at: Exod 15:14; Isa 14:29, 31; Joel 3:4; Ps 60:8; 83:7; 87:4; 108:9
http://www.hebrew-streams.org/works/hebrew/palestine.html
Which is why, in Arabic, it is pronounced Falistine, it gradually evolved in English from Ph to P
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:39 am
So funny an English rendition of the name a tad as stupid as the verse claiming to say intoxication.
Not only that the vast majority of today's Palestinians are not descended from Canaanites or the Philistines, but arabs
There is a desperation from a nazi and a Muslim twat
Not only that the vast majority of today's Palestinians are not descended from Canaanites or the Philistines, but arabs
There is a desperation from a nazi and a Muslim twat
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:40 am
Fuzzy Zack wrote:Didge wrote:
No just that you are one thick Muslim twat ha ha
Did spend Valentine's Day wanking again?
Did you spend yours sucking your dads cock? lol
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:44 am
Fuzzy Zack wrote:Didge wrote:
Did you spend yours sucking your dads cock? lol
Oh dear!
You would have thrown such a huge hissy fit to the admin and threaten to quit the forum becuase someone insulted your family.
Seems you've lost control. What happened to your New Years Resolution? You lasted only 1 month.
Listen little runt, if you cannot take it, d0 not dish it out. So if you throw in idiotic remarks I will make yours look smallfry
Now best you go off and run to mummy crybaby
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:56 pm
Fuzzy Zack wrote:Didge wrote:
Listen little runt, if you cannot take it, d0 not dish it out. So if you throw in idiotic remarks I will make yours look smallfry
Now best you go off and run to mummy crybaby
Oh dear. Seems you're suffering from another bout of small penis syndrome.
Never been concerned over size, the question then is why you bring it up and on something a teenager would worry about,
You have all the hallmarks of not only a virgin, but someone very insecure
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:15 pm
A new series where I bring to you news from the newspaper archives to debunk common misconceptions about the Middle East conflict.
I have long reminded people claiming the palestinians just want the return of lands we won in the Six Day War and all our problems will go away that the PLO was formed in 1964, 3 years earlier. Why is that, if the problem is only the so-called 1967 “occupation”?
Of course, the answer to this is explicitly mentioned in the New York Times article relating to the PLO’s formation (accessible here). But the article reveals a whole lot more.
In particular, note the following:
- From the get-go, they rejected any resolution to the refugee issue that did not involve them being settled in Israel, even though resettling them in Arab countries was mentioned. This is because they wanted to take over all of Israel, and not actually make life easier for the refugees. In other words, the refugees have been used as tools.
- All of Israel means what was referred to as Palestine under the British mandate. Yet Israel haters constantly refer to a state of Palestine that has existed for hundreds and even thousands of years. If this is the case, how come they point to the British designation, which is really what Britain wrested from the Turkish-Ottoman Empire in World War I?
- Following the previous point, the PLO members refer to it as the “Palestine entity.” Nowhere do they make mention of things like the “historical state of Palestine”, or their rights as “indigenous peoples of Palestine.”
http://www.israellycool.com/2016/02/18/know-your-history-founding-of-the-plo-may-1964/
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:22 pm
[size=40]Know Your History: Israel’s Offer to Repatriate Arab Refugees, July 1967:[/size]
[size][url][/url][/size]
[size][url][/url][/size]
[size][url][/url][/size]
[size][url][/url][/size]
[size][url][/url][/size]
[size][url][/url][/size]
[size][url][/url][/size]
Something the Israel haters do not admit – heck, even people on our side don’t realize this – is that following our victory in the Six Day War, we made a real effort to repatriate Arab refugees displaced by the war.
As you can see from the below New York Times report, the Israeli government made an offer for refugees from “the west bank” to return. It was not an easy decision, and there was real debate and opposition to it based on security considerations. Also note a committee was set up to help rehabilitate the refugees (including those from Gaza), including experts in things like agriculture and industry.
Also note the reference to Arabs who “fled” the 1948 war, an acknowledgement that many fled and were not all expelled as the haters claim.
If Israel really was attempting ethnic cleaning and genocide as the haters allege, this makes absolutely no sense.
Meanwhile, refugees refused the offer.
Update: A great observation by reader Aryeh.
[color:b6a7=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)]Note how NYT accurately describes them as refugees from the “west bank of the Jordan river”. No caps; just an accurate term for the geographical area with no agreed-upon sovereign. How this changed to common parlance of a capitalized “West Bank” (which even iPhone capitalizes automatically now!), let alone “Palestinian Territories”, rather than the correct “disputed” is a great story of the success of propaganda… and the power of the media.
http://www.israellycool.com/2016/02/24/know-your-history-israels-offer-to-repatriate-arab-refugees-july-1967/
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:22 pm
[size=40]Know Your History: King Hussein’s Plan & The Reaction Of “West Bank” Arabs, 1972:[/size]
[size][url][/url][/size]
[size][url][/url][/size]
[size][url][/url][/size]
Here’s another fascinating bit of news history destined to send Israel haters and BDSHoles into convulsions.
Back in March 1972, almost 5 years after the Six Day War, the New York Times reported about an offer by Jordan’s King Hussein to unify the “west bank” with Jordan again. Note in particular the following:
- The NY Times very clearly starting with the name of the area as “the Biblical provinces of Judea and Samaria”
- Israel had allowed for freedom of movement of Arabs and goods between the “west bank” and Jordan, as well as into Israel
- An acknowledgement of the fact that Jordan occupied this area before Israel took over, and how Israel’s “occupation” was no worse and in fact “in some ways better.”
- The concept of these Arabs living in a federation with Jordan (instead of a separate “palestinian” state) was a popular concept among these Arabs, but failed for other reasons
- The Arab intellectuals said they were ready to accept Israel as a neighbor
Note: I cannot provide a link to the full article since it is only available to those who have purchased a NY Times subscription. But I have provided screenshots below. As usual, click on the screenshots to enlarge.
http://www.israellycool.com/2016/02/25/know-your-history-king-husseins-plan-the-reaction-of-west-bank-arabs-1972/
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:23 pm
[size=40]Know Your History: The ‘Palestinian Refugees’ As Pawns, 1972[/size]
[url][/url]
Back in 1972, the New York Times published this piece stating unequivocally what we already know, but what the mainstream media dare not mention these days – the palestinian refugees are pawns of their own leaders, as well as other Arab leaders.
Note: I cannot provide a link to the full article since it is only available to those who have purchased a NY Times subscription. But I have provided a screenshot below.
http://www.israellycool.com/2016/02/26/know-your-history-the-palestinian-refugees-as-pawns-1972/
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:24 pm
[size=40]Know Your History: Sabena Hijacking Rescue Operation, 1972[/size]
Remember when the New York Times fawned over Israel’s brilliant military operations rescuing innocent civilians from brutal palestinian terrorists?
Yeah, me either. But in 1972 they covered the Sabena hijacking rescue operation. The tone of the entire report is one of admiration. These days, they would likely condemn such an operation.
Note: I cannot provide a link to the full article since it is only available to those who have purchased a NY Times subscription. But I have provided a screenshot below.
By the way, the leader of the commando operation was some guy called Ehud Barak, and it included some other guy called Binyamin Netanyahu. Both were disguised as aircraft technicians in white coveralls.
http://www.israellycool.com/2016/02/27/know-your-history-sabena-hijacking-rescue-operation-1972/
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:25 pm
[size=40]Know Your History: A Map Of Palestine, 1855[/size]
[size][url][/url][/size]
A series where I bring to you news from the newspaper archives and historical documents to debunk common misconceptions about the Middle East conflict.
Here’s a map showing provinces of the Ottoman Empire in 1855. See if you can find “Palestine.”
You won’t find anything labelled “Palestine” because the area was just part of Syria (click to enlarge).
Back then, Syria was split into two provinces called Eyalets. Each Eyalet was in turn split into Sanjaks. The Eyalet of Damascus included the Sanjaks of Acre, Safad, Nablus, Jerusalem and Gaza. In 1872, the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem was formed, and only towards the end of that century did the idea that this region (“Palestine”) formed a separate political entity became a thing among the area’s educated Arab classes.
Why is this even important? After all, were there not Arabs living in the area when most of the Jews returned to the area after thousands of years of exile? It is important, because the pro palestinian side has long claimed the existence of a distinct palestinian nation dating back thousands of years. If you accept this, then you buy into the lie that the palestinian people are indigenous to the area, rather than part of the Arabs of greater Syria who ultimately were there due to the Arab Islamic Conquest in the 7th century.
As we know, the Jews were there well prior to this conquest, and are indigenous according to the established definition of the word, and not “European colonialists” as the haters claim. The Arabs have rights of longstanding presence, which do not trump these indigenous rights, and certainly do not justify the incessant terrorism we have been subjected to for so long.
In this battle of ideas, accuracy, words and concepts do matter, and to claim otherwise is foolish.
http://www.israellycool.com/2016/03/01/know-your-history-a-map-of-palestine-1855/
lol how embarrassing
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:28 pm
[size=40]Know Your History: French Leftists Supported Israel, 1967[/size]
[size][url][/url][/size]
[size][url][/url][/size]
A new series where I bring to you news from the newspaper archives to debunk common misconceptions about the Middle East conflict.
The world was very different in 1967. Some of Israel’s staunchest supporters were French leftists – including Jean-Paul Sartre – who opposed the Vietnam War.
The French and the Left in general have certainly lost their way since then, siding with those who are the antithesis of everything in which they believe.
http://www.israellycool.com/2016/02/21/watch-1964-the-truth-about-the-palestinians/
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:29 pm
[size=40]Know Your History: The “Refugee Problem”, 1957[/size]
[size][url][/url][/size]
[size][url][/url][/size]
Israel is constantly blamed for the plight of the palestinian refugees, even though many were caused by the Arab leaders themselves. And not enough people question why there are still UNRWA refugee camps 68 years later.
As I have regularly stated, these refugees are used as a tool by the Arab nations against Israel, who prefer them to fester in the camps instead of absorbing them like Israel has absorbed Jews from all around the world.
Back in 1957, the New York Times said pretty much the same thing.
Note: I cannot provide a link to the full article since it is only available to those who have purchased a NY Times subscription. But I have provided screenshots below.
http://www.israellycool.com/2016/02/23/know-your-history-the-refugee-problem-1957/
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:30 pm
[size=40]Know Your History: Founding Of The PLO, May 1964[/size]
I have long reminded people claiming the palestinians just want the return of lands we won in the Six Day War and all our problems will go away that the PLO was formed in 1964, 3 years earlier. Why is that, if the problem is only the so-called 1967 “occupation”?
Of course, the answer to this is explicitly mentioned in the New York Times article relating to the PLO’s formation (accessible here). But the article reveals a whole lot more.
In particular, note the following:
- From the get-go, they rejected any resolution to the refugee issue that did not involve them being settled in Israel, even though resettling them in Arab countries was mentioned. This is because they wanted to take over all of Israel, and not actually make life easier for the refugees. In other words, the refugees have been used as tools.
- All of Israel means what was referred to as Palestine under the British mandate. Yet Israel haters constantly refer to a state of Palestine that has existed for hundreds and even thousands of years. If this is the case, how come they point to the British designation, which is really what Britain wrested from the Turkish-Ottoman Empire in World War I?
- Following the previous point, the PLO members refer to it as the “Palestine entity.” Nowhere do they make mention of things like the “historical state of Palestine”, or their rights as “indigenous peoples of Palestine.”
http://www.israellycool.com/2016/02/18/know-your-history-founding-of-the-plo-may-1964/
Guest- Guest
Re: The new Palestinian people
by Guest Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:30 pm
[size=40]Know Your History: Dr Martin Luther King’s Support For Israel, One Week Before Six-Day War[/size]
[size][url][/url][/size]
[size][url][/url][/size]
[size][url][/url][/size]
With Israel haters equating Gazans with blacks in Ferguson, and trying to claim the great Martin Luther King despised Israel, a New York Times article a mere week before the Six Day War of June 1967 rebuts that claim.
Leading up to that fateful war, Egyptian leader Gamal Nasser had ordered the withdrawal of the UN Emergency Force, stationed in the Sinai since 1956, and closed the Straits of Tiran to Israeli ships. One week before the war commenced, 8 Church leaders, including Dr Martin Luther King, stood up for Israel.
Note: I cannot provide a link to the full article since it is only available to those who have purchased a NY Times subscription. But I have provided screenshots below. As usual, click on the screenshots to enlarge.
http://www.israellycool.com/2016/02/19/know-your-history-dr-martin-luther-kings-support-for-israel-one-week-before-six-day-war/
Guest- Guest
Similar topics» Palestinian Writer: Hamas Uses Hitler-Like Methods That Will Doom The Palestinian People
» The heart of the problem with Israel: The mass expulsion of the Palestinian people
» “Let the Palestinian people go”: What younger Jews will be asking of Israel at Passover Seder this year
» CNN Palestinian Analyst To CIA Analyst: White People Cannot Understand What Motivates Terrorists
» More than a fifth of people on unemployment benefits have a criminal record, government figures have revealed. The new data showed an estimated 22 per cent of all people claiming out of work claimants - such as Jobseeker’s Allowance - were made by people
» The heart of the problem with Israel: The mass expulsion of the Palestinian people
» “Let the Palestinian people go”: What younger Jews will be asking of Israel at Passover Seder this year
» CNN Palestinian Analyst To CIA Analyst: White People Cannot Understand What Motivates Terrorists
» More than a fifth of people on unemployment benefits have a criminal record, government figures have revealed. The new data showed an estimated 22 per cent of all people claiming out of work claimants - such as Jobseeker’s Allowance - were made by people
Page 1 of 1
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
» TOTAL MADNESS Great British Railway Journeys among shows flagged by counter terror scheme ‘for encouraging far-right sympathies
» Interesting COVID figures
» HAPPY CHRISTMAS.
» The Fight Over Climate Change is Over (The Greenies Won!)
» Trump supporter murders wife, kills family dog, shoots daughter
» Quill
» Algerian Woman under investigation for torture and murder of French girl, 12, whose body was found in plastic case in Paris
» Wind turbines cool down the Earth (edited with better video link)
» Saying goodbye to our Queen.
» PHEW.
» And here's some more enrichment...
» John F Kennedy Assassination
» Where is everyone lately...?
» London violence over the weekend...
» Why should anyone believe anything that Mo Farah says...!?
» Liverpool Labour defends mayor role poll after turnout was only 3% and they say they will push ahead with the option that was least preferred!!!
» Labour leader Keir Stammer can't answer the simple question of whether a woman has a penis or not...
» More evidence of remoaners still trying to overturn Brexit... and this is a conservative MP who should be drummed out of the party and out of parliament!
» R Kelly 30 years, Ghislaine Maxwell 20 years... but here in UK...