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Post by Guest Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:46 pm

Vatican guide says ‘not necessarily’ bishop’s duty to report suspects to police despite Pope Francis’s vows to redress Catholic church’s legacy of child abuse

The Catholic church is telling newly appointed bishops that it is “not necessarily” their duty to report accusations of clerical child abuse and that only victims or their families should make the decision to report abuse to police.
A document that spells out how senior clergy members ought to deal with allegations of abuse, which was recently released by the Vatican, emphasised that, though they must be aware of local laws, bishops’ only duty was to address such allegations internally.

“According to the state of civil laws of each country where reporting is obligatory, it is not necessarily the duty of the bishop to report suspects to authorities, the police or state prosecutors in the moment when they are made aware of crimes or sinful deeds,” the training document states.

The training guidelines were written by a controversial French monsignor and psychotherapist, Tony Anatrella, who serves as a consultant to the Pontifical Council for the Family. The Vatican released the guidelines – which are part of a broader training programme for newly named bishops – at a press conference earlier this month and is now seeking feedback.

Details of the Catholic church’s policy were first reported in a column by a veteran Vatican journalist, John Allen, associate editor of the Catholic news site, Cruxnow.com.

Allen noted that a special commission created by Pope Francis, the Pontifical Commission for the Protection of Minors, had appeared to play no role in the training programme, even though it is supposed to be developing “best practices” to prevent and deal with clerical abuse.

Indeed, a church official familiar with the commission on abuse said it was the committee’s position that reporting abuse to civil authorities was a “moral obligation, whether the civil law requires it or not”. The official said the committee would be involved in future training efforts.

The current guidelines written by Anatrella make only passing references to prevention policies. The French monsignor is best known for championing views on “gender theory”, the controversial belief that increasing acceptance of homosexuality in western countries is creating “serious problems” for children who are being exposed to “radical notions of sexual orientation”. He did not return a request for comment.

The guidelines reflect Anatrella’s views on homosexuality. They also downplay the seriousness of the Catholic church’s legacy of systemic child abuse, which some victims’ right groups say continues to be a problem today.

While acknowledging that “the church has been particularly affected by sexual crimes committed against children”, the training guide emphasises statistics that show the vast majority of sexual assaults against children are committed within the family and by friends and neighbours, not other authority figures.

The training course began in 2001 and has been taken by about 30% of Catholic prelates. The guidelines on child abuse was presented to new bishops last September in the annual training course organised by the Congregation for Bishops, Allen noted.

Pope Francis has called for the church to exhibit “zero tolerance” of sexual abuse of minors or vulnerable adults by clergy and that “everything possible must be done to rid the church of the scourge of the sexual abuse”.

He said in a 2012 interview – when he was still a cardinal – that he was once called by a bishop asking him for advice on how to deal with an allegation of sex abuse. Cardinal Bergoglio – as he was then known – allegedly told the bishop to take away the priests’ licences and begin a canonical trial that would deal with the matter internally.

SNAP, a US-based advocacy group for abuse victims that has been very critical of Pope Francis on the issue, said the news outlined in John Allen’s Crux article proved that the church had not substantially changed.

“It’s infuriating, and dangerous, that so many believe the myth that bishops are changing how they deal with abuse and that so little attention is paid when evidence to the contrary – like this disclosure by Allen – emerges,” the group said in a statement.
The news comes just days after the abuse commission forced one of two abuse survivors who had personally been appointed by Pope Francis to leave the committee following a vote of no confidence. Peter Saunders, a British abuse survivor and vocal critic of the church’s alleged lack of action on abuse, said he was blind-sided by the vote.
According to a recent press release over the weekend that did not mention Saunders’s removal, the committee has been busy finalising proposals for Pope Francis’s consideration, including whether the pope ought to remind all church authorities of the importance of responding directly to victims who approach them, and the finalisation of a day of prayer for victims. It is also developing a website to share best practices for children all around the world.
The Vatican declined to comment.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/10/catholic-bishops-not-obliged-report-clerical-child-abuse-vatican-says


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Post by Original Quill Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:51 pm

Donno who cares about the Vatican, anyhow. It's the law, if you don't want to be charged with accessory-after-the-fact.

OP wrote:...a church official familiar with the commission on abuse said it was the committee’s position that reporting abuse to civil authorities was a “moral obligation, whether the civil law requires it or not”.

And what is Church policy....immoral?

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:58 pm

For goodness sake Quill, this is the policy that has allowed them to get away with thousands of cases of child abuse all over the world - America as well, and move around priests that have done it to keep them out of the hands of the police.!

Dunno who cares?  All the poor bloody kids that are abused care.

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Post by Original Quill Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:13 am

sassy wrote:For goodness sake Quill, this is the policy that has allowed them to get away with thousands of cases of child abuse all over the world - America as well, and move around priests that have done it to keep them out of the hands of the police.!

Dunno who cares?  All the poor bloody kids that are abused care.

You took that wrong, sass. I don't know who cares in authority. The cops in this country are listening to a different voice...the priests go to prison, not heaven.

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Post by eddie Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:25 pm

sassy wrote:For goodness sake Quill, this is the policy that has allowed them to get away with thousands of cases of child abuse all over the world - America as well, and move around priests that have done it to keep them out of the hands of the police.!

Dunno who cares?  All the poor bloody kids that are abused care.

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Post by Original Quill Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:56 pm

eddie wrote:
sassy wrote:For goodness sake Quill, this is the policy that has allowed them to get away with thousands of cases of child abuse all over the world - America as well, and move around priests that have done it to keep them out of the hands of the police.!

Dunno who cares?  All the poor bloody kids that are abused care.

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Lol...read what I said to sassy...and weep.

I don't believe in any metaphysical being (ie, god), and so naturally I don't recognize the churches and religious cultures that have built up religions.  Sweep all of that nonsense away you what do you have?  Good guys and bad guys.  

Europeans are too steeped in religions and churches to understand.  If you remove religion from society, as the US First Amendment does, all you have are secular concerns.  Sassy is treating religion ("the policy that has allowed...") as if it is legitimate, when if you just arrest priests like anyone else the problem is solved.  Distilled down, all that means is our laws take care of business.

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