Somalis Rape Again

by Major Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:49 am

Three Somali men who gang-raped white 16-year-old girl in bathroom of hotel where they had stayed to celebrate Eid are jailed for 30 years
Muhyadeen Osman, Bilal Ahmed and Mowled Yussuf, all 20, guilty of rape
They attacked 16-year-old girl at Victoria Park Hotel in Manchester in 2013
The trio also robbed the victim at the hotel, where they celebrated Eid
All three were jailed for a combined 30 years at Manchester Crown Court

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3423246/Three-Somali-men-gang-raped-white-16-year-old-girl-bathroom-hotel-stayed-celebrate-Eid-jailed-30-years.html#ixzz3yiR9b5T9
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by Ben Reilly Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:54 am

Stormee wrote:Three Somali men who gang-raped white 16-year-old girl in bathroom of hotel where they had stayed to celebrate Eid are jailed for 30 years
Muhyadeen Osman, Bilal Ahmed and Mowled Yussuf, all 20, guilty of rape
They attacked 16-year-old girl at Victoria Park Hotel in Manchester in 2013
The trio also robbed the victim at the hotel, where they celebrated Eid
All three were jailed for a combined 30 years at Manchester Crown Court

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3423246/Three-Somali-men-gang-raped-white-16-year-old-girl-bathroom-hotel-stayed-celebrate-Eid-jailed-30-years.html#ixzz3yiR9b5T9
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Hope you become our regular rape reporter. You'll have to include rapes committed by every group, I'm afraid ...

by Major Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:25 am

Thank you for my promotion Ben, I am sure I have earned it and will do my best to keep Newsfix up to date on all rapes, if and when I spot them.

by Ben Reilly Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:43 am

Stormee wrote:Thank you for my promotion Ben, I am sure I have earned it and will do my best to keep Newsfix up to date on all rapes, if and when I spot them.

No problem, Stormee, but mind you keep up with all them rapiz wut is whitiz, I rekon there be quite a bit more than the blackiz in England, you fink?

by nicko Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:33 am

Horlicks!

by Guest Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:42 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Stormee wrote:Thank you for my promotion Ben, I am sure I have earned it and will do my best to keep Newsfix up to date on all rapes, if and when I spot them.

No problem, Stormee, but mind you keep up with all them rapiz wut is whitiz, I rekon there be quite a bit more than the blackiz in England, you fink?

Yep, the 'ise only a wazist cos i is a byt fick and iz not my falt' palls after a while doesn't it, and you just want to tell him to drag himself out of the closet and stop pretending to be wanker, because even without the 'thick act' we know that is exactly what he is.

by Major Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:52 am

Sob sister sly Sassy.

You constantly insult me, stop it.

If you make closet remarks, personal insults about me again I will retaliate with filth about you which is disgusting, you will object to it, it is against my ethics/principles of good manners.

Stop it.

by Major Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:54 am

BTW Ben.

If you read my posts you will be aware that I detest ALL scum rapists.

by Guest Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:58 am

Oh my, suddenly Stormee can speak and write English. Well done. Let's not revert to the normal pretence, it's not clever and it's totally transparent.

by Major Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:05 pm

I rekkun yu fancee me, Sassy. lol

by Ben Reilly Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:29 pm

Stormee wrote:BTW Ben.

If you read my posts you will be aware that I detest ALL scum rapists.

Forgive me, my good sir, but you do seem to pretend it's worse when non-white people do it.

by Raggamuffin Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:32 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Stormee wrote:Three Somali men who gang-raped white 16-year-old girl in bathroom of hotel where they had stayed to celebrate Eid are jailed for 30 years
Muhyadeen Osman, Bilal Ahmed and Mowled Yussuf, all 20, guilty of rape
They attacked 16-year-old girl at Victoria Park Hotel in Manchester in 2013
The trio also robbed the victim at the hotel, where they celebrated Eid
All three were jailed for a combined 30 years at Manchester Crown Court

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3423246/Three-Somali-men-gang-raped-white-16-year-old-girl-bathroom-hotel-stayed-celebrate-Eid-jailed-30-years.html#ixzz3yiR9b5T9
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Hope you become our regular rape reporter. You'll have to include rapes committed by every group, I'm afraid ...

You talk as if other people don't concentrate on certain "groups".

by Ben Reilly Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:24 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Stormee wrote:Three Somali men who gang-raped white 16-year-old girl in bathroom of hotel where they had stayed to celebrate Eid are jailed for 30 years
Muhyadeen Osman, Bilal Ahmed and Mowled Yussuf, all 20, guilty of rape
They attacked 16-year-old girl at Victoria Park Hotel in Manchester in 2013
The trio also robbed the victim at the hotel, where they celebrated Eid
All three were jailed for a combined 30 years at Manchester Crown Court

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3423246/Three-Somali-men-gang-raped-white-16-year-old-girl-bathroom-hotel-stayed-celebrate-Eid-jailed-30-years.html#ixzz3yiR9b5T9
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Hope you become our regular rape reporter. You'll have to include rapes committed by every group, I'm afraid ...

You talk as if other people don't concentrate on certain "groups".

What did I say to give you that impression?

by Raggamuffin Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:33 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You talk as if other people don't concentrate on certain "groups".

What did I say to give you that impression?

Well you never tell Sassy to include acts of violence by Palestinians when she's talking about violence by Israelis. You never tell Quill or whoever to include the killing of white people by police officers when they're talking about the police killing black people.

You get my drift?

by Ben Reilly Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:45 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You talk as if other people don't concentrate on certain "groups".

What did I say to give you that impression?

Well you never tell Sassy to include acts of violence by Palestinians when she's talking about violence by Israelis. You never tell Quill or whoever to include the killing of white people by police officers when they're talking about the police killing black people.

You get my drift?

They're pushing back against unbalanced narratives that favor the strong and deny the humanity of the defenseless or underprivileged, and neither of them makes it out like Palestinians never kill people or white people are never killed by police. Stormee's pushing his own narrative here that we're all supposed to register -- these people are coming into our peaceful country and committing awful crimes that we don't commit.

I'd like to know whether Stormee really thinks this incident was made worse by the fact that it was Somalis. Would the girl have preferred to have been gang-raped by a gang of white British men?

by Raggamuffin Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:48 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Well you never tell Sassy to include acts of violence by Palestinians when she's talking about violence by Israelis. You never tell Quill or whoever to include the killing of white people by police officers when they're talking about the police killing black people.

You get my drift?

They're pushing back against unbalanced narratives that favor the strong and deny the humanity of the defenseless or underprivileged, and neither of them makes it out like Palestinians never kill people or white people are never killed by police. Stormee's pushing his own narrative here that we're all supposed to register -- these people are coming into our peaceful country and committing awful crimes that we don't commit.

I'd like to know whether Stormee really thinks this incident was made worse by the fact that it was Somalis. Would the girl have preferred to have been gang-raped by a gang of white British men?

Are you actually excusing these Somalis on the grounds that they're "defenceless" or "underprivileged"?

by Ben Reilly Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:22 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Well you never tell Sassy to include acts of violence by Palestinians when she's talking about violence by Israelis. You never tell Quill or whoever to include the killing of white people by police officers when they're talking about the police killing black people.

You get my drift?

They're pushing back against unbalanced narratives that favor the strong and deny the humanity of the defenseless or underprivileged, and neither of them makes it out like Palestinians never kill people or white people are never killed by police. Stormee's pushing his own narrative here that we're all supposed to register -- these people are coming into our peaceful country and committing awful crimes that we don't commit.

I'd like to know whether Stormee really thinks this incident was made worse by the fact that it was Somalis. Would the girl have preferred to have been gang-raped by a gang of white British men?

Are you actually excusing these Somalis on the grounds that they're "defenceless" or "underprivileged"?

Not at all -- I'm pointing out the unfairness of the narrative that Stormee's trying to create when he reports rapes such as this, singling out minorities or immigrants. I'm saying that Somali immigrants in general don't deserve to be judged by the actions of three rapists, but that's what Stormee wants us to do because he wants us to support his anti-immigration and racist agenda.

by Major Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:39 pm

Stormee has a PATRIOTIC agenda and does not care about anyone who harms this island which was once ours, simpul.
One day you may learn more about me.

by Ben Reilly Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:46 pm

Stormee wrote:Stormee has a PATRIOTIC agenda and does not care about anyone who harms this island which was once ours, simpul.
One day you may learn more about me.

That's a fairly ominous thing to say ...

by veya_victaous Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:28 pm

Stormee wrote:Stormee has a PATRIOTIC agenda and does not care about anyone who harms this island which was once ours, simpul.
One day you may learn more about me.

you deserve to lose everything, for nothing is yours. People Like you have NOWHERE, we have already taken you island in the name of the western empire And declared it shall be multicultral, so Stop acting like some 16th century peasent your kingdom is dead your nation a Vassal.
SO If you are an Enemy of the Western Empire decalre yourself such So Our drones can hunt you down like any other terrorist scumbag.
What ever 'culture' you are should disappear, it would only be what is good and just.

by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:31 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
Stormee wrote:Stormee has a PATRIOTIC agenda and does not care about anyone who harms this island which was once ours, simpul.
One day you may learn more about me.

you deserve to lose everything, for nothing is yours. People Like you have NOWHERE, we have already taken you island in the name of the western empire And declared it shall be multicultral, so Stop acting like some 16th century peasent your kingdom is dead your nation a Vassal.
SO If you are an Enemy of the Western Empire decalre yourself such So Our drones can hunt you down like any other terrorist scumbag.
What ever 'culture' you are should disappear, it would only be what is good and just.

Put a sock in it Veya. Ranting about drones hunting people down is making you look barking mad.

by veya_victaous Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:50 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
Stormee wrote:Stormee has a PATRIOTIC agenda and does not care about anyone who harms this island which was once ours, simpul.
One day you may learn more about me.

you deserve to lose everything, for nothing is yours. People Like you have NOWHERE, we have already taken you island in the name of the western empire And declared it shall be multicultral, so Stop acting like some 16th century peasent your kingdom is dead your nation a Vassal.
SO If you are an Enemy of the Western Empire decalre yourself such So Our drones can hunt you down like any other terrorist scumbag.
What ever 'culture' you are should disappear, it would only be what is good and just.

Put a sock in it Veya. Ranting about drones hunting people down is making you look barking mad.

If Stormee was a Syrian he'd have to Drones Hunting him down, the views he expresses are Anti Western Empire.
His Hatred of Western Values makes him an enemy of our Social and Political systems.

he deserves to have bombs land on his home just like the rest of them.

by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:02 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Put a sock in it Veya. Ranting about drones hunting people down is making you look barking mad.

If Stormee was a Syrian he'd have to Drones Hunting him down, the views he expresses are Anti Western Empire.
His Hatred of Western Values makes him an enemy of our Social and Political systems.

he deserves to have bombs land on his home just like the rest of them.

He wouldn't have drones hunting him. Not even Syrians have drones hunting them in the UK, especially not in England.

You really should stop inciting violence against citizens of this country.

by veya_victaous Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:23 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Put a sock in it Veya. Ranting about drones hunting people down is making you look barking mad.

If Stormee was a Syrian he'd have to Drones Hunting him down, the views he expresses are Anti Western Empire.
His Hatred of Western Values makes him an enemy of our Social and Political systems.

he deserves to have bombs land on his home just like the rest of them.

He wouldn't have drones hunting him. Not even Syrians have drones hunting them in the UK, especially not in England.

You really should stop inciting violence against citizens of this country.

You seem to Struggle with the fact being born on a piece of dirt doens't make you good and should not be of any consideration.

Enemies of the West are enemies of the West. if they are born in Britian it makes then all the worse, they are vipers born in the west nest. they need to purged Muslim extermist or Uber-nationalist treated with the same contempt and given the same fate.

by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:24 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

He wouldn't have drones hunting him. Not even Syrians have drones hunting them in the UK, especially not in England.

You really should stop inciting violence against citizens of this country.

You seem to Struggle with the fact being born on a piece of dirt doens't make you good and should not be of any consideration.

Enemies of the West are enemies of the West. if they are born in Britian it makes then all the worse, they are vipers born in the west nest. they need to purged Muslim extermist or Uber-nationalist treated with the same contempt and given the same fate.

You seem to struggle with the idea that we don't generally have drones hunting people in the UK.

by veya_victaous Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:38 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

He wouldn't have drones hunting him. Not even Syrians have drones hunting them in the UK, especially not in England.

You really should stop inciting violence against citizens of this country.

You seem to Struggle with the fact being born on a piece of dirt doens't make you good and should not be of any consideration.

Enemies of the West are enemies of the West. if they are born in Britian it makes then all the worse, they are vipers born in the west nest. they need to purged Muslim extermist or Uber-nationalist treated with the same contempt and given the same fate.

You seem to struggle with the idea that we don't generally have drones hunting people in the UK.

we do in Syria!!!
I am Clearly Saying WE NEED DRONES dealing with the issues in the UK/Europe, Just like we have in Syria.
Much Like the Syrians and ISIS, the Brits/Europeans should be Doing something to Combat the Uber Nationalist if they don't want drone strikes.

treat the enemies of the West Equally, if there is any dispairty it should be because we are harder on any that appear in weastern nations.

by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:45 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You seem to struggle with the idea that we don't generally have drones hunting people in the UK.

we do in Syria!!!
I am Clearly Saying WE NEED DRONES dealing with the issues in the UK/Europe, Just like we have in Syria.
Much Like the Syrians and ISIS, the Brits/Europeans should be Doing something to Combat the Uber Nationalist if they don't want drone strikes.

treat the enemies of the West Equally, if there is any dispairty it should be because we are harder on any that appear in weastern nations.

We don't need drones in the UK - stop trying to incite warfare against British people in Britain. You can have drones in Australia if you want to.

by veya_victaous Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:28 am

The Western Empire (we) Obviously needs to Address the least civilized parts of it's empire (a.k.a Europe and the UK) to stop the breeding of Anti-western terrorists.

And the UK's Failure to do something about EDL and the like shows that drones may indeed be nesecary, as this situation is repeated all over europe a no nonsense response is required when dealing with these Anti-Western Uber-nationalists.

by Raggamuffin Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:30 am

veya_victaous wrote:The Western Empire (we) Obviously needs to Address the least civilized parts of it's empire (a.k.a Europe and the UK) to stop the breeding of Anti-western terrorists.

And the UK's Failure to do something about EDL and the like shows that drones may indeed be nesecary, as this situation is repeated all over europe a no nonsense response is required when dealing with these Anti-Western Uber-nationalists.

You generally like to distance yourself and Australia from Europe. You can't suddenly decide that we're all in it together now.

Stop being so silly. Drones are not going to be following people in Britain, and calling for such a thing is incitement to hatred.

by Guest Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:32 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:The Western Empire (we) Obviously needs to Address the least civilized parts of it's empire (a.k.a Europe and the UK) to stop the breeding of Anti-western terrorists.

And the UK's Failure to do something about EDL and the like shows that drones may indeed be nesecary, as this situation is repeated all over europe a no nonsense response is required when dealing with these Anti-Western Uber-nationalists.

You generally like to distance yourself and Australia from Europe. You can't suddenly decide that we're all in it together now.

Stop being so silly. Drones are not going to be following people in Britain, and calling for such a thing is incitement to hatred.

Drones are already being used in the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-32431630

Police are using them in airports.

by Raggamuffin Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:34 am

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You generally like to distance yourself and Australia from Europe. You can't suddenly decide that we're all in it together now.

Stop being so silly. Drones are not going to be following people in Britain, and calling for such a thing is incitement to hatred.

Drones are already being used in the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-32431630

Police are using them in airports.

Not with a view to bombing homes though - as Veya suggests they should.

by Guest Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:35 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:

Drones are already being used in the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-32431630

Police are using them in airports.

Not with a view to bombing homes though - as Veya suggests they should.

How do think it starts? They'll be used in police operations and then more, and more, and so it goes on.

by Raggamuffin Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:36 am

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Not with a view to bombing homes though - as Veya suggests they should.

How do think it starts? They'll be used in police operations and then more, and more, and so it goes on.

Please don't encourage him. Rolling Eyes

by veya_victaous Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:37 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:The Western Empire (we) Obviously needs to Address the least civilized parts of it's empire (a.k.a Europe and the UK) to stop the breeding of Anti-western terrorists.

And the UK's Failure to do something about EDL and the like shows that drones may indeed be nesecary, as this situation is repeated all over europe a no nonsense response is required when dealing with these Anti-Western Uber-nationalists.

You generally like to distance yourself and Australia from Europe. You can't suddenly decide that we're all in it together now.

Stop being so silly. Drones are not going to be following people in Britain, and calling for such a thing is incitement to hatred.

Europe is the Naughty Vassal of the western empire
the USA needs to give it a good spanking to bring it back in line and make it control it's peasants Somalis Rape Again 859118666

by Guest Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:38 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You generally like to distance yourself and Australia from Europe. You can't suddenly decide that we're all in it together now.

Stop being so silly. Drones are not going to be following people in Britain, and calling for such a thing is incitement to hatred.
Europe is the Naughty Vassal of the western empire
the USA needs to give it a good spanking to bring it back in line and make it control it's peasants

Frankly Veya, I think the USA needa to be slapped around the head to stop it messing up the world and European RWingers need putting on a big island and surrounded by man eating sharks.

by veya_victaous Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:47 am

sassy wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You generally like to distance yourself and Australia from Europe. You can't suddenly decide that we're all in it together now.

Stop being so silly. Drones are not going to be following people in Britain, and calling for such a thing is incitement to hatred.
Europe is the Naughty Vassal of the western empire
the USA needs to give it a good spanking to bring it back in line and make it control it's peasants

Frankly Veya, I think the USA needa to be slapped around the head to stop it messing up the world (1) and European RWingers need putting on a big island and surrounded by man eating sharks. (2)

(1) they are the boss.. for now Rolling Eyes

... And really I cant see anyone else taking the reigns of the West.

(2) NO! you are not sending them to Australia

.....give them a little Island

by Guest Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:48 am

veya_victaous wrote:
sassy wrote:

Frankly Veya, I think the USA needa to be slapped around the head to stop it messing up the world (1) and European RWingers need putting on a big island and surrounded by man eating sharks. (2)

(1) they are the boss.. for now ... And really I cant see anyone else taking the reigns of the West.

(2) NO! you are not sending them to Australia

.....give them a little Island

Very little, so they fall off and get eated lol

by Guest Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:11 am

sassy wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
Europe is the Naughty Vassal of the western empire
the USA needs to give it a good spanking to bring it back in line and make it control it's peasants

Frankly Veya, I think the USA needa to be slapped around the head to stop it messing up the world and European RWingers need putting on a big island and surrounded by man eating sharks.

Interesting, fundamentally ignoring where the real problems are messing it up, but more interesting is how you wish to move all right wingers to an island.

So by that, you are promoting ~~ethnic~~Political and belief cleansing
Inequality
Denial of freedom of thought
Discriminating against people because of their beliefs, in this case politically
Criminalizing having different political views, to the form of deporting people.
Denies self determination
Conflicts with democracy

by veya_victaous Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:12 am

Didge wrote:
sassy wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
Europe is the Naughty Vassal of the western empire
the USA needs to give it a good spanking to bring it back in line and make it control it's peasants

Frankly Veya, I think the USA needa to be slapped around the head to stop it messing up the world and European RWingers need putting on a big island and surrounded by man eating sharks.

Interesting, fundamentally ignoring where the real problems are messing it up, but more interesting is how you wish to move all right wingers to an island.

So by that, you are promoting ~~ethnic~~Political and belief cleansing
Inequality
Denial of freedom of thought
Discriminating against people because of their beliefs, in this case politically
Criminalizing having different political views, to the form of deporting people.
Denies self determination
Conflicts with democracy

the law currently does that for lots of political views.
UberNationalists from Europe Should be added to the list of ideals we consider to be evil (they are already, Nazis)

SO you support the rights of an ISIS supporter to encourage Sharia in the UK? are you discriminating against them?

You don't understand discrimination.
IT IS OKAY to dicriminate against someone based on their CHOICES, particularly when they effect others Like Political Choices.
You claim all the time it is Okay to disciminate agaisnt Muslims because they support homophobia or other inequalities. Similarly it is Okay to disciminate against anyone that is RW for the same reason as of they support a mindset and a sociopolitical position that is evil.

Rather than My Poisiton, of treat them as Individauls and let them Prove themsleves to be Regressive Wankers and then treat them with the contempt they deserve

by Guest Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:53 am

lol and I thought nothing or any view would ever champion discrimination/ Where the ultimate regressive would actually be so appalling adn oppressive, that they would argue that its okay to discriminate based on as seen choices they make.
Before I even answer how they fails to even grasp or understand equality, let me just simple easily refute yet again the false accusations.

I fundamentally believe all citizens, no matter, their gender, sexuality, ethnicity, religion etc should be treated all equally based upon not only the well being of people but based off humanitarian secular laws. Again we see a false charge and libel made to claim I want to discriminate against Muslims, when in fact I never advocate any such stance. I actually am fundamentally against the teachings of homosexuality in Islam, as it denies equality and criminalizes love between two consenting adults. So based on making choice, we have just been told, is fundamentally okay, to the regressive to discriminate against homosexuals, for coming out, having sex etc I mean politically this is hugely important in Sharia law of which just had backing to discriminate people over choice. We have never in the modern history of criminality created a law making it illegal to making choices. We do however have laws that govern punishments for when some people abuse the human rights of others. We put people in prison, not because of the choices they made and not because we even want to discriminate against them, but born of mainly one reason. That there is some fare humane way to make people accountable for carrying out acts that harm people. If the intent was based to discriminate, no due care would be made o even rehabilitation or even anti-death penalty. As the death penalty is formed from how render the severity of a crime, but we also believe it is wrong to deny life. As we evolutionary seek to survive. So where placing people in custody is a form of discrimination. Their incarceration was never based on what choices they made, but what they actually did.

So it is never okay to discriminate someone over choices they make. As taking that statement in 193's Germany where Jews stayed/ Would by the above poor reasoning make them culpable to their persecution, just from simply choosing to stay behind..

I support the rights for anyone to expressing their views, as long as it is not an incitement to violence. I support far more many being utterly vocal to the actual real problems on why large numbers of Muslims would forgo any reason. make the stance of being peaceful end up being moot

So again you think people should be removed for holding views at odds with you, ie right wing, but in the same breath defending the rights of non-citizens who now reside in that country. You are by the choices made of those refugees. The regressive has argued to back discriminating. They are now justified based on your reasoning to back prejudice off a choice they made. You have just backed the far right to hate Muslims, based off choices. As to the far right, the ultimate worst choice would be converting to Islam. So if criminalizing choices
Sorry but that is the most unethical reasoning someone could make, as its not an issue if you do not like someones views or choices. Its okay to even openly say and be critical. However if you denied them a placement based on a choice they have made. You are then fundamentally casting them as criminal for life

by Guest Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:11 am

Right have to go, but there is all anyone needs to understand how backward and regressive some of the left are. They champion prejudice through active discrimination, based on not the criminal act, but they choose to do so. So to the poor ex-Muslim that leaves and renounces his faith. To the regressive left, its fine to discriminate against them..

i am seiously stunned at the absolute backward babble that is spouted by the left

by veya_victaous Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:41 am

Your concept of Discrimination is a simplistic and childish as tommys concept of Equality and Equally inaccurate. Didge wrote:
lol and I thought nothing or any view would ever champion discrimination/ Where the ultimate regressive would actually be so appalling adn oppressive, that they would argue that its okay to discriminate based on as seen choices they make.
Before I even answer how they fails to even grasp or understand equality, let me just simple easily refute yet again the false accusations.
Simpleton, you have to discriminate. discrimination is not always bad. In Humans Discriminating because of something someone does not control like skin clour is bad, Discriminating based on an individauls Choices and Actions is proper and called consequences.

I fundamentally believe all citizens, no matter, their gender, sexuality, ethnicity, religion (bullshit you have called to discriminate against Muslims Multipule times) etc should be treated all equally based upon not only the well being of people but based off humanitarian secular laws. Again we see a false charge and libel made to claim I want to discriminate against Muslims, when in fact I never advocate any such stance. I actually am fundamentally against the teachings of homosexuality in Islam, as it denies equality and criminalizes love between two consenting adults. So based on making choice, we have just been told, is fundamentally okay, to the regressive to discriminate against homosexuals, for coming out, having sex etc I mean politically this is hugely important in Sharia law of which just had backing to discriminate people over choice So you Support peoples choice to try and enforce Sharia or Not? Or Do you Discriminate against those that Support Sharia . We have never in the modern history of criminality created a law making it illegal to making choices. YES they all are, All Laws Exist to stop people making bad choices and punish them for the choices they make. We do however have laws that govern punishments for when some people abuse the human rights of others. We put people in prison, not because of the choices they made and not because we even want to discriminate against them, but born of mainly one reason. That there is some fare humane way to make people accountable for carrying out acts that harm people. If the intent was based to discriminate, no due care would be made o even rehabilitation or even anti-death penalty. As the death penalty is formed from how render the severity of a crime, but we also believe it is wrong to deny life. As we evolutionary seek to survive. So where placing people in custody is a form of discrimination. Their incarceration was never based on what choices they made, but what they actually did. LOL Drug laws there you go, All your BULLSHIT gone Because that is What it is BULLSHIT Try to base you response in Reality next time, not in the fairy land where anti-discrimiantion means "no one ever has any consquence or repercussion for their actions and opinions "

So it is never okay to discriminate someone over choices they make. OK, you just said we should not discriminate against a man that chooses to rape children, because it is "never okay to discriminate" and say "EVERYONE That makes the choice to rape kids Can Die"...... and you wonder why i Question your right to vote?? As taking that statement in 193's Germany where Jews stayed/ Would by the above poor reasoning make them culpable to their persecution, just from simply choosing to stay behind..

I support the rights for anyone to expressing their views, as long as it is not an incitement to violence. So you WILL Discriminate I support far more many being utterly vocal to the actual real problems on why large numbers of Muslims would forgo any reason. make the stance of being peaceful end up being moot

So again you think people should be removed for holding views at odds with you, that are PURE EVIL, but in the same breath defending the rights of non-citizens who now reside in that country. You are by the choices made of those refugees. The regressive has argued to back discriminating. They are now justified based on your reasoning to back prejudice off a choice they made. You have just backed the far right to hate Muslims, based off choices. As to the far right, the ultimate worst choice would be converting to Islam. So if criminalizing choices You make no sense but, who has a choice? the refugee fleeing war torn nations or the Regressive Wanker that is scared of coloured people so spouts shit about protecting an island? And which one paints a whole group with the one brush? So Yes Everyone gets a choice and THEN they get Judged By it.
Sorry but that is the most unethical reasoning someone could make, as

See I think you struggle with the meaning of the word discrimination.
It is NOT always BAD, sometimes it is Deserved, Like when Individuals decide to join a Political Faction!!! or should we not discriminate Agaisnt ISIS and Nazi's???, they are political factions too

And YES for the MILLIONTH TIME Yes, Ban the Ignorant form Voting, take the memebership lists of EDL and the like and round up those people and chuck them in the ocean LIKE they have said to do to refugees.

Like I said MY Positon

Rather than My Poisiton, of treat them as Individauls and let them Prove themsleves to be Regressive Wankers and then treat them with the contempt they deserve

So once someone has proved too stuipid to understand complex ideas take the vote off them. See it is not really Fair letting you vote since your brain seem to operate on slogans alone without any understanding.

by Guest Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:51 am

Hence why now I am extending the ignore facility until the end of March
After showing up what was essentially the thoughts of a 2 year old, of which he knew I just embarrassed his views, he comes back with boundless insults and yet further unfounded accusations.

This is all regressive can do in debate and why so often they are left like flapping fish out of water. So can Veya show where I have promoted and want to change the law to have in equality to Muslim?

No

There is no law that criminalizes choice, but certain actions, hence why the far left in left in charge would be worse than Trump and as seen utterly clueless..

He then argues off a subjective position, revenge. If we go down that road, where the goal posts are so wide all the way up to the death penalty, where in fact we allow for rehabilitation shows why you again would neither have Veya or Trump in power, two racist clowns, who have not got a clue.

This is why I am enjoying watching the littel boy struggle, he hates that I have him on ignore, as most do not even bother engaging him now he has pissed off so many now and then after showing him his views are flawed, he immediately starts insulting and ranting.

Hence Ignore Ban now extended to the end of March

I mean next he will be telling me that to choose to support something is a criminal act alongside somebody committing that act
What is even more disgusting is many people in the world have little choice. They cannot leave their faith, tell of their sexuality etc on pain of death.

He then advocates that those who disagree with him, should not be allowed to vote, claiming ignorance on no proven measure.

Committing rape is an action, ISIS does not consider it to be rape, because they have warped views on abusing people. Hence why been able to choose is not illegal, it is acts that are illegal

Welcome to the world of a lefty dictator, as that is Veya for you, he will discriminate against you now if people which have intellectual disabilities, discriminating against the disabled.

You cannot make it up how the left are by far worse than the racist far right

by Major Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:09 am

You are not necessarily right if you are deemed racist or even vice versa.
All leftiz are not aerosols, well almost.

Labelling people to try to get the upper hand does not work on forums, find something else to satisfy your weak blinded minds.

by Guest Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:18 am

Stormee wrote:You are not necessarily right if you are deemed racist or even vice versa.
All leftiz are not aerosols, well almost.

Labelling people to try to get the upper hand does not work on forums, find something else to satisfy your weak blinded minds.

Everyone has a right to express their opinions, which sadly some of the left want to criminalize people just holding political beliefs to the extent of deporting them. This is why some of the left are no better than the far right. They openly discriminate, are fundamentally prejudiced and poorly try to justify discrimination. So I agree not all the left are bad people, in fact those who are not vocal, tend to be true lefties that hold and value the well being and equality of one and all. Sadly some of the left continually think and use the method of deligitimization, the very tactic that the Nazi's perfected against the Jews, left wing politics, the disabled, the Slavs, the Gypsies etc. By deligitimzinng people, allows for such hateful people to wrongly think they can justify discrimination and prejudice. Its one thing to have banter and mock, but some of the left and some of the far right have no such distinction.

by eddie Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:16 pm

sassy wrote:Oh my, suddenly Stormee can speak and write English. Well done. Let's not revert to the normal pretence, it's not clever and it's totally transparent.

Sassy everyone knows storm writes like that deliberately?? It's a joke! I thought we all knew that? It's bloody obvious it's a little joke, a dig at idiots that do write like that!
Did you really think he was that illiterate or pretending sometimes then forgetting?? lol!