Lord Lucan set to be declared 'presumed dead' as deadline for objections to death certificate passes

Lord Lucan is set to be officially declared “presumed dead” after a deadline passed for objections to a procedure which would allow his son to inherit his title.

George Bingham, whose father disappeared in 1974 hours after his children’s nanny was found murdered at the family’s London home, last month placed a low-profile notice in a local newspaper announcing he was seeking a death certificate for Lord Lucan.

The 21-day deadline for any objections to the move has expired and Mr Bingham is now expected to make a formal application to the High Court next month under the Presumption of Death Act. The legislation passed last year is aimed at simplifying the process of having someone who has been missing for years to be declared dead.

Mr Bingham, 47, who was seven when his father vanished, told the West End Extra newspaper that he hoped the process would bring “closure”. It will also enable him to be named the 8th Earl of Lucan and pass on the family title in the event that he becomes a father. The financier, who lives in central London, announced this summer that he is to marry the daughter of a wealthy Danish industrialist.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/lord-lucan-set-to-be-declared-presumed-dead-as-deadline-for-objections-to-death-certificate-passes-a6724531.html

I love the Lord Lucan story. It was dreadful for the nanny of course, and an awful murder, but then it's been a long time. Lady Lucan didn't really ever get over it.

He's not dead. He's hiding in the Hibs trophy from lol

Mr Bingham, 47, who was seven when his father vanished, told the West End Extra newspaper that he hoped the process would bring “closure”. It will also enable him to be named the 8th Earl of Lucan and pass on the family title in the event that he becomes a father. The financier, who lives in central London, announced this summer that he is to marry the daughter of a wealthy Danish industrialist."

Enough said, so who gives a crap.

captainJane wrote:Mr Bingham, 47, who was seven when his father vanished, told the West End Extra newspaper that he hoped the process would bring “closure”. It will also enable him to be named the 8th Earl of Lucan and pass on the family title in the event that he becomes a father. The financier, who lives in central London, announced this summer that he is to marry the daughter of a wealthy Danish industrialist."

Enough said, so who gives a crap.

It's of interest to some people Jane - those who have followed the story.

captainJane wrote:Mr Bingham, 47, who was seven when his father vanished, told the West End Extra newspaper that he hoped the process would bring “closure”. It will also enable him to be named the 8th Earl of Lucan and pass on the family title in the event that he becomes a father. The financier, who lives in central London, announced this summer that he is to marry the daughter of a wealthy Danish industrialist."

Enough said, so who gives a crap.

I'm with you.  Why would anyone want to pass on the name of a murderer?

When I was younger this story fascinated me.
I used to think he'd walk out if the sea and return....



Am I thinking of Reginald Perrin?

You're thinking of Reggie Perrin.  Lucan killed his children's nanny and then got spirited out of the country by various Lords and Ladies, never to face the music.  He was a gambler and lost all their money, and a bully as well, mentally and physically abusive to his wife.

He rode off on Arkle

Irn Bru wrote:He rode off on Arkle

Arkle from Skegness?

I am amusing myself tonight

as in Ronny Barker lol

eddie wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:He rode off on Arkle

Arkle from Skegness?

I am amusing myself tonight

Arkle the gee gee

Arkle Barker? Ronnies brother from another mother?

Irn Bru wrote:

eddie wrote:

Arkle from Skegness?

I am amusing myself tonight

Arkle the gee gee

It was Shergar that disappeared!

Or was he murdered by redrum?

sassy wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

eddie wrote:

Arkle from Skegness?

I am amusing myself tonight

Arkle the gee gee

It was Shergar that disappeared!

Arkle/Shergar? They're like immigrants - they all look the same to me.

eddie wrote:Or was he murdered by redrum?

I don't know if the rum was red, but it didn't do him much good lol

I've got tears of laughter running down my face over this thread, either that or the pill I had to take lol

Arkle the alky, killed by a drunken horse ridden by Regiie Perrin

What a strange old world

Oh stop, I read the thread about the coffin being dropped and was laughing because of this thread, felt awful, got a fit of the giggles, as we live in a bungalow, OH is probably wondering what the hell I'm laughing at!

eddie wrote:Arkle the alky, killed by a drunken horse ridden by Regiie Perrin

What a strange old world

Red Rum is buriied at the winning post at Aintree. Suspected overdose on marzipan I believe.

sassy wrote:Oh stop, I read the thread about the coffin being dropped and was laughing because of this thread, felt awful, got a fit of the giggles, as we live in a bungalow, OH is probably wondering what the hell I'm laughing at!

Irn Bru wrote:

eddie wrote:Arkle the alky, killed by a drunken horse ridden by Regiie Perrin

What a strange old world

Red Rum is buriied at the winning post at Aintree. Suspected overdose on marzipan I believe.

Almond poisoning by Ronnie Barker desperate to get rid of his out of date simnel cake that had been there since easter.

Irn Bru wrote:

eddie wrote:Arkle the alky, killed by a drunken horse ridden by Regiie Perrin

What a strange old world

Red Rum is buriied at the winning post at Aintree. Suspected overdose on marzipan I believe.

The marzipan that Ronnie barker made??

eddie wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Red Rum is buriied at the winning post at Aintree. Suspected overdose on marzipan I believe.

The marzipan that Ronnie barker made??

No, he didn't make it, he bought it off the market to sell in his shop and it was 10 years old and going off lol   Would have poisoned an elephant, never mind a horse, gave him a sore throat which made him a hoarse horse!

eddie wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

eddie wrote:Arkle the alky, killed by a drunken horse ridden by Regiie Perrin

What a strange old world

Red Rum is buriied at the winning post at Aintree. Suspected overdose on marzipan I believe.

The marzipan that Ronnie barker made??

Couldn't be. Ronnie Barker was doing porridge at the time - 7 years I believe.

Irn Bru wrote:

eddie wrote:

The marzipan that Ronnie barker made??

Couldn't be. Ronnie Barker was doing porridge at the time - 7 years I believe.

That's a bloody great big pot of porridge, would take a very large spoon to stir it!   I know who uses one of those!!!!!

I simply cannot believe all this has come to light because Lord Lucan decided to die today.

Oh well. I'd better gallop off to bed to rub my Arkle and have sweet dreams about covering Ronnie Barker in red rum and marzipan....

Night all

Night Eds, I'm going to do the same, think I might have some very odd dreams!

eddie wrote:

With luck! lol

eddie wrote:When I was younger this story fascinated me.
I used to think he'd walk out if the sea and return....



Am I thinking of Reginald Perrin?

Or Sergeant Troy perhaps?

The found the car Lord Lucan was using in Newhaven parked in a residential road, but no sign of him. He sent letters to friends before he disappeared admitting that he'd been in the house but that someone else had attacked his wife.

According to Wiki, the police searched Newhaven Downs and found the skeletal remains of a judge who had disappeared years earlier. I can't find any more info about that.

Irn, I never knew that about Red Rum, I always thought he was turned into Dog meat!

feelthelove wrote:

Lord Lucan is set to be officially declared “presumed dead” after a deadline passed for objections to a procedure which would allow his son to inherit his title.

Is that really a photograph of him?  Put an apron on him and he looks like a Serbian snow cone vendor in Central Park.

If Lucky Lucan had killed the nanny by mistake, thinking she was his wife, why did he not actually kill his wife when he realised his mistake?

The son of Sandra Rivett has allegedly lodged a last-minute objection to the death certificate being issued.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11981197/Challenge-to-plea-for-death-certificate-for-Lord-Lucan-from-son-of-murdered-nanny.html

And also someone who has been investigating his disappearance, who says the law is supposed to cover people who have disappeared, not fugitives from the law.

Has anyone considered the possibility that Sandra Rivett was actually the intended victim? The only person who knows for sure if he's the attacker or not is Lady Lucan, but it just seems odd to me that he would stay in the house having failed to kill her, and then go into the bathroom, allowing her to escape and raise the alarm.

Did you see the dramatisation that was based on Lady Lucan testimony, it explained it.

sassy wrote:Did you see the dramatisation that was based on Lady Lucan testimony, it explained it.

I've been looking for that actually. I think I did see it but I've forgotten it. I know she said it was him, but he didn't deny being at the house, just that he didn't attack Sandra or his wife. It just seems very odd to me that he would stay there and go to the bathroom to get something to clean her up if he meant to kill her. Also, why was Sandra's body in a sack?

It's also possible that he had an accomplice, and that he met that accomplice days later down in Newhaven. I think his passport was found at his house, so he didn't have it with him.

The drama is here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3145138/

He obviously had a lot of help getting out of the country.

sassy wrote:The drama is here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3145138/

He obviously had a lot of help getting out of the country.

Thanks.

We don't know that he actually left the country though.

He must have done, he had such distinctive feature and voice he would have been found.

sassy wrote:He must have done, he had such distinctive feature and voice he would have been found.

Not if he's dead, and has been dead since that time.

Not a chance in my book, but nobody knows.

George Bingham, the son, has an interesting theory. He thinks that his father wanted to nick some stuff from the house as an insurance scam, so he got some bloke involved, gave him the lead piping covered with a bandage, gave him a key, and told him to use the lead bar to prize open a window so it would look like a burglary. He also gave him a sack to put valuables into. He sat outside in the car he'd borrowed. The burglar panicked when he saw Sandra Rivett and killed her, and then had a go at Lady Lucan as well. Lord Lucan got fed up of waiting outside, so he went in to see what had happened, and of course his wife thought he was the one who attacked her.

One problem is why Sandra Rivett's body was put into the sack, and at what point it was put into the sack.

Some say this was a frenzied attack and not planned, but then why was the lead bar covered in a bandage? Why was there another one the same found in the car?

I don't think you could use a Lead bar to prise open anything, lead would be too soft wouldn't it?

nicko wrote:I don't think you could use a Lead bar to prise open anything, lead would be too soft wouldn't it?

An interesting observation Nicko. George Bingham also pointed out that if you wanted to kill someone, you wouldn't use a lead bar because it's too soft and it would take many blows. That's why he thinks the bar wasn't intended to be used in that manner. Also, it was wrapped in a bandage or surgical tape - why?

Anyway, the point is that the lead bar wasn't actually going to be used to prise open a window - the accomplice would have had a key.

I guess you could say that if someone didn't realise it would be too soft to prise open a window, they also wouldn't realise it was too soft to kill someone with one blow.

Rags I think you missed your calling: you should've been a detective!