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Post by Irn Bru Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:38 am

This was featured on BBC News 24 today.

The central issue about increasing Singapore's birth rate is whether we are prepared to take the perhaps radical steps which have enabled some developed Western countries to raise their birth rates from near terminal decline to more than replacement levels. Whether such steps, which largely involve creating a state-funded parental support ecosystem, are prohibitively expensive or a vital necessity, depends on whether we consider our birth rate to be a strategic imperative of the same priority as, say, national service, which is certainly not cheap either.

Ever since the mid-1960s when the Government launched a population control programme, our TFR, or total fertility rate, has been continually declining. For three decades, it has been below the replacement rate of 2.1 births per woman and, since 2003, a dozen years ago, it has been less than 1.3 births per woman.

We're hovering at the edge of the precipice, the so-called low-fertility trap, which is when a confluence of demographic, sociological and economic trends all converge and create a self-reinforcing, unstoppable spiral downwards. A slight uptick last year is encouraging news, but hardly a trend yet.



http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/europes-baby-bump-holds-lessons-for-singapore

Singapore could end up with slow growth and a threat to theie economic stability.

Great place though.
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Post by Guest Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:20 am

Absolutely fantastic.  I would really love to go back.  It's come on in leaps and bounds and yet still has managed to retain it's character.

The wonderful memories I have of this place, Singapore Cricket Club and it's still there, even if the skyline has changed.

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Post by Guest Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:24 am

And this used to be known as the Singapore Swimming Club, now know as the British Club, oh my, the things we used to get up to there!

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Post by Irn Bru Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:30 am

sassy wrote:Absolutely fantastic.  I would really love to go back.  It's come on in leaps and bounds and yet still has managed to retain it's character.

The wonderful memories I have of this place, Singapore Cricket Club and it's still there, even if the skyline has changed.

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It's a wonderful place and anyone who has travelled extensivly throughout the world will probably have been there at some point. That view over Brani Island or when the lights go on to illuminate the marina basin is a wonderful sight.

I've been there a few times and I used to enjoy a steak at the Cellar Bar in Change Alley near Colymer Quay. Great memories of there.

Anyone else been there who have any comnents on Singapore and the wonderful place that it is?
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Post by Guest Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:32 am

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Would you believe, to the right of that pool used to be the sea!  So much land has been reclaimed, what they have done is amazing.  We used to live behind the trees in the left hand top corner, Jalan Daliah.

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Post by Guest Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:34 am

Lol, Change Alley, oh my word, used to take the lads there when they arrived from England and Bugis Street.

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Post by Irn Bru Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:37 am

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Would you believe, to the right of that pool used to be the sea!  So much land has been reclaimed, what they have done is amazing.  We used to live behind the trees in the left hand top corner, Jalan Daliah.

Amazing picture's. I think I will save up and go back before I die. Maybe the Kiwi girl I met there is still around lol.
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Post by Irn Bru Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:41 am

sassy wrote:Lol, Change Alley, oh my word, used to take the lads there when they arrived from England and Bugis Street.

I'll be you did. The Cellar Bar was a bit more upmarket though. Laughing
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Post by Guest Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:42 am

Oh definitely more upmarket!  

Bed for me now, well past the witching hour lol

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Post by Irn Bru Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:54 pm

I was very young at the time and straight out of the sticks of a small coal mining village. Laughing

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Post by Guest Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:06 pm

Bet that was a shock to the system then lol

Sent me right back that did.

This was the new Singapore National Theatre in 1965 (think they have replaced it since then).  I had the honour of treading those boards in a production of 'For the Love of Four Colonels' by Peter Ustinov.  I played the 'love' of the colonels.

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Also was in The Matchmaker that Hello Dolly was based on.

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Post by Guest Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:11 pm

Cathay Cinema, I was sat in there when a bloody great bomb went off down the road.

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Post by Irn Bru Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:30 am

It sure was a shock to the system. I thought that Edinburgh was the centre of the earth but I quickly realised that it wasn't. A trip abroad for me the first time was to Morecambe Bay at Pontins holiday camp where policemen wore funny hats. Laughing

Further afield was a completely different experience that I loved for the good and bad that I witnessed.

Singapore was exceptional for it's natural beauty and lifestyle and location. Mind you I didn't manage the cultural aspects very well as there were other things to do I still loved the place.
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Post by Guest Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:33 am

Although when Malaysia was first formed it included Singapore, Singapore very soon decided to leave, and I'm glad it did.  It has a very different 'vibe' to Malaysia.  Malaysia is beautiful too, I always used to say it was like a tropical Scotland.

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Post by Irn Bru Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:46 am

I didn't see or get bitten by any midges there Laughing

Saw a lot of US GI's in change Alley who were on leave from Vietnam. They'd go there as well a Klong Toey in Bangkok. Poor guys behaved like it was may be their last days and I don't blame them because it must have been horrific what they went through.

They were determined to go out with a bang (so to speak)
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Post by Guest Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:48 am

Irn Bru wrote:I didn't see or get bitten by any midges there Laughing

Saw a lot of US GI's in change Alley who were on leave from Vietnam. They'd go there as well a Klong Toey in Bangkok. Poor guys behaved like it was may be their last days and I don't blame them because it must have been horrific what they went through.

They were determined to go out with a bang (so to speak)

Yep, and some of them got surprises about who they were banging lol

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Post by Irn Bru Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:49 am

sassy wrote:
Irn Bru wrote:I didn't see or get bitten by any midges there Laughing

Saw a lot of US GI's in change Alley who were on leave from Vietnam. They'd go there as well a Klong Toey in Bangkok. Poor guys behaved like it was may be their last days and I don't blame them because it must have been horrific what they went through.

They were determined to go out with a bang (so to speak)

Yep, and some of them got surprises about who they were banging lol

Oh stop it

lol! lol! lol!
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Post by Irn Bru Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:19 am

Have you ever been to Hong Kong? great place as well.

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Post by Guest Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:23 am

Fantastic place.  Went by ship from Singapore to Hong Kong, only stayed a little while, but another place that is totally unique.

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Post by Irn Bru Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:36 am

sassy wrote:Fantastic place.  Went by ship from Singapore to Hong Kong, only stayed a little while, but another place that is totally unique.

Read the book 'the wonderful world of Suzi Wong' and saw the film.

And there's a bar in Kowloon that was named that. It was wicked but respectable and a great laugh Laughing
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Post by Guest Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:49 am

It was Wink   Went there with a sailor lad.

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Post by Irn Bru Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:05 am

sassy wrote:It was Wink   Went there with a sailor lad.

JD went to Hong Kong a couple of years ago and I told him about it but I dount it's still there.

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Post by Irn Bru Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:41 am

Have you ever been to the Waltzing Matilda Bar which was in Kowloon? Probably the most famour bar in Hong Hong who's rules were hilarious.

It was run obviously by an Australian and was frequented by foreign visitors from all over the world.

Great place to go amd never missed the chance to visit it.
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Post by eddie Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:47 am

I've been to Skegness is that's any help? Neutral
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Post by Guest Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:48 am

eddie wrote:I've been to Skegness is that's any help? Neutral

Lol, bet you had a good time!

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Post by eddie Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:50 am

sassy wrote:
eddie wrote:I've been to Skegness is that's any help? Neutral

Lol, bet you had a good time!

Actually I haven't even been - but if I had.....I would've had a blast! cheers
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Post by Irn Bru Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:50 am

eddie wrote:I've been to Skegness is that's any help? Neutral

I've never been there. Been to Scarborough, Filey and Bridlington which I think is nearby. Great places for fish suppers I have to say.
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Post by eddie Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:51 am

I've never been to Skegness I was just bragging Sad
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Post by Irn Bru Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:53 am

eddie wrote:I've never been  to Skegness I was just bragging Sad

lol! lol! lol!
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Post by Guest Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:18 am

Don't forget The Walzing Matilda in Kowloon, frequented by quite a lot of Aussies, the place didn't approve of people picking their noses lol

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Post by Irn Bru Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:22 am

A famous watering hole for many people icluding ex-pats and servicemen. Top place for a good night out - minus the nose pickers of course Laughing
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Post by Guest Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:27 am

And the ones who scratch their nuts with a salad fork Europe's baby bump holds lessons for Singapore 3489511464 Europe's baby bump holds lessons for Singapore 3489511464

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Post by Irn Bru Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:28 am

sassy wrote:And the ones who scratch their nuts with a salad fork Europe's baby bump holds lessons for Singapore 3489511464 Europe's baby bump holds lessons for Singapore 3489511464

Laughing
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Post by eddie Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:16 am

What's wrong with scratching someone's nuts with a salad fork?
Some would consider that foreplay Cool
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Post by Guest Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:22 am

Could be, could be.  However, think they are talking about doing it to yourself (those with nuts of course) in the restaurant.  Would kinda put other people off their food lol.

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Post by eddie Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:26 am

Doing it to yourself?

Go fork yourself! Europe's baby bump holds lessons for Singapore 3489511464
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Post by Guest Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:29 am

In the Far East there used to be a thing called Dobie Itch.  The people who did the laundry used to starch everything until it could nearly stand up by itself.  Consequently, trousers used to make men itch.  Apparently a fork on the outside of the trousers could releave it lol

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Post by eddie Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:30 am

sassy wrote:In the Far East there used to be a thing called Dobie Itch.  The people who did the laundry used to starch everything until it could nearly stand up by itself.  Consequently, trousers used to make men itch.  Apparently a fork on the outside of the trousers could releave it lol


Ah a bit of S&M Razz
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Post by Guest Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:38 am

Lol, and in public no less!

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Post by Irn Bru Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:35 am

The problem with nose-pickers are the 'wipers' and especially the 'flickers'.

They're a bloody menace.

They can all fork off as far as I'm concerned Laughing
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Post by Guest Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:49 am

Errrrr, that's quite put me off my hot milk!

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Post by Irn Bru Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:56 am

sassy wrote:Errrrr, that's quite put me off my hot milk!

Sorry 'bout that Laughing
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