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In the House of Commons today, MPs face a critical debate on the rise of food bank use and the increase in hunger levels in the UK today.

The Labour Party are using Opposition Day to discuss the food bank petition I launched with the Daily Mirror and Unite the Union – that gained an astonishing 100,000 signatures in just two days, demonstrating an overwhelming strength of public feeling.

At lunchtime, I’ll be speaking to MPs and campaigners before the debate, sharing my own experiences of poverty in a supposedly developed country.

Since starting to raise awareness of food bank use in the press last April with Oxfam’s “Walking The Breadline” report, I’ve realised how many lies and how much propaganda is out there. And I hear the same tired rhetoric again and again, from everyone from ordinary people to MPs and Lords.

So, on the day of the Opposition Day food bank debate, here’s 20 things you should know about food banks and hunger in Britain today.

1. Food bank use in the South East, the region known for its wealth and relative prosperity, is up over 60% this year.

2. A decade ago, food banks were almost unheard of in the UK. The Trussell Trust, the UK’s largest network of food banks, now opens new food banks in Britain every week to cope with the increase in referrals.

3. The Government commissioned a report into the rise in food bank use in June this year. DEFRA investigated, and the Government are refusing to publish the report.

4. Thousands of families face the prospect of relying on emergency food handouts this Christmas.

5. Some people who are in full time work are using food banks to support themselves and their families. Many of these work zero hour contracts – people are employed, but can work little or no hours in a week. They have no financial stability, and are not guaranteed enough to pay their rent, bills, or buy food.

6. Half a million people received emergency food assistance from a Trussell Trust food bank between April and December 2013. This is more than the number assisted in the entire year before (346,992).

7. Robin Aitkin in the Telegraph claims that: “A new service is being offered to more and more communities, and naturally people are using it. The sustained media interest in food banks has acted as a giant advertising campaign.” This is simply untrue. People cannot simply turn up to a food bank and ask for help, they need to be identified as being in need by a healthcare professional or social services or similar, and referred with a form or a voucher. It isn’t, as certain politicians would have you believe, an opportunist desire for free food.

8. Figures from the Trussell Trust show that changes to the benefit system are the most common cause for food bank use in Britain. Nearly a third had been referred after benefits had been delayed, and a further 19% due to their benefits being cut or stopped.

9. 3 in 10 people say they are now struggling to feed themselves and their family because of the rising cost of food.

10. Lord Freud (again) thinks that food banks are a good thing and that local authorities should ‘ramp up support in kind’. Speaking at a recent conference on welfare reform, he said that it is “absolutely appropriate” that charities should provide free food parcels to people hit by benefit cuts and delays.

11. Niall Cooper, the national co-ordinator of Church Action On Poverty, says: “Where are we as a society that people in work are having to turn to food banks? It’s a big question but it does not feel like one the Government wants to answer.”

12. All 152 councils in England have set up welfare assistance schemes to replace the crisis loan and community care grant elements of the social fund, which until April were provided by the DWP. Some schemes offer food vouchers in place of cash assistance, and a number are working in partnership with food banks. Despite 87% of benefit claimants being in work, almost two-thirds of the local council welfare schemes stipulate that working people are not eligible for their help.

13. Nottinghamshire council is proposing to close its welfare assistance scheme in April, and will cease to refer people to food banks or offer additional support.

14. Lord Freud (again!) claims that there is no robust evidence of a link between welfare reform and the rise in food bank use. However over half of the people referred to food banks are there due to delays and cuts in benefits, and benefit sanctions.

15. Today there are more than 400 food banks across Britain, with new ones opening every couple of days.

16. Some food banks now open twice a day in order to meet the number of referrals in their local community. The Storehouse, in Southend, changed its opening times earlier this year to accommodate the growing number of people in need in their community. The Storehouse is an independently run food bank, part of the Vineyard church, and not affiliated with the Trussell Trust.

17. Since April this year the number of people referred to food banks because they can’t afford to feed themselves due to benefit changes has increased. Over half of food bank referrals are due to welfare issues, such as cuts and changes to benefits, delays, and sanctions.

18. A mum of two whose husband is in work was referred to Chiltern food bank for help after the council made a mistake with her housing benefit. “I was really embarrassed at first, but the volunteer at the food bank really boosted my confidence and self esteem. She made me feel like I was worth something.”

19. Food banks don’t just hand out emergency food, they also provide other essentials such as nappies, formula milk and sanitary towels.

20. Food banks do not encourage a cycle of dependency. Molly Hodson from the Trussell Trust says: “Our food banks are different to American and Canadian food banks, they are an emergency service. Where there is a welfare provision, nobody should be at a point where they can’t put food on the table long term. We help people out of poverty by working with local agencies and charities for example if someone has debt problems, we put them in touch with a debt counselling charity. We want to help resolve the issues, and make sure people have a route out of poverty.”

You can still sign the petition at www.change.org/foodbanks – and tweet your MP right now to demand they attend the debate



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 No  A further indictment on this awful coalition..Time to get rid

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:21 pm

PhilDidge wrote:
Irn Bru wrote:

Quite correct Didge. Many people did need them before the coalition and not many would dispute that but that was down to the collapse of the global banking system that caused the recession. However, it accelerated so much in the past year r so that the numbers coming up now are staggering.

Food poverty 'now a health emergency'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25201759

Sassy is,disputing but anyway.

Even before then Irn, from what I am reading, thus if before then we have many food banks now, it shows they were also greatly needed before, thus we could have let down many people before.


Have a good evening Irn, have to go, as feel this is going to go forever round in circles

Cheers

It certainly is, has anything gone in?

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:22 pm

Many points thanks, though I very much doubt you took in many of the view points as seen by me and others.

Night

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:24 pm

Nope, because you made none, you were 100% wrong.

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:27 pm

I think not on many points, but that is your view, you are welcome to it, does not make you right and never will, I will say good night again and see if you have the same decency to do the same.


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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:28 pm

I know on every point, and you still think people can just walk in and get a box of food.

Night, sweet dreams.

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:30 pm

I never said once they can just walk in and get a box of food, I would love for you to post that and back it up before I go?

Take your time, I can wait

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:32 pm

With the greatest of pleasure, didn't take long:

Thus anyone can walk up, show they have no money in their account, show a bill and is given food, even though they have money for food, yet they have showed they are on minimum wage, thus in the poverty line can they not?


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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:33 pm

Dear me, is that just turning up and getting food?

No, or did I say more, dear me, no wonder you never admit when you are wrong when you fabricate something, you missed a few parts in the middle and from your own website.

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:35 pm

Oh do shut up, you said they you never said they could just walk in and get a box of food, I showed you were you did say it, and you are coming out with that crap!    In that sentence you said they could just walk in.   Now man up and stop the wriggling.

Thus anyone can walk up, show they have no money in their account, show a bill and is given food

 :/pwn://: :/pwn://: :/pwn://:


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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:36 pm

Didge!

...You would make for a good interrogator, working for the CIA or someone like that.

You just keep on repeating the same old rhetoric night and day and then eventually the subject would go mad and sign anything that you want them to sign!

 ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: 

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:38 pm

Sassy wrote:Oh do shut up, you said they you never said they could just walk in and get a box of food, I showed you were you did say it, and you are coming out with that crap!    In that sentence you said they could just walk in.   Now man up and stop the wriggling.


You claimed I said they can just walk in and get food:

I said

Thus anyone can walk up, show they have no money in their account, show a bill and is given food, even though they have money for food, yet they have showed they are on minimum wage, thus in the poverty line can they not?

Clearly not the same, you lied, so I will not shut up thank you

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:41 pm

PhilDidge wrote:
Sassy wrote:Oh do shut up, you said they you never said they could just walk in and get a box of food, I showed you were you did say it, and you are coming out with that crap!    In that sentence you said they could just walk in.   Now man up and stop the wriggling.


You claimed I said they can just walk in and get food:

I said

Thus anyone can walk up, show they have no money in their account, show a bill and is given food, even though they have money for food, yet they have showed they are on minimum wage, thus in the poverty line can they not?

Clearly not the same, you lied, so I will not shut up thank you


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They are the same, you have just showed yet again you don't know how it works, even if you have been told it a million time. Nobody can walk into a food bank, show they have no money and get given food.


FGS Didge, I know you have a brain in there, dig it out do.

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:42 pm

Thus anyone can walk up, show they have no money in their account, show a bill and is given food, even though they have money for food, yet they have showed they are on minimum wage, thus in the poverty line can they not?


Very different as it seems, sorry you can keep lying sassy, it won't work on this forum.

 :D 

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:44 pm

:D 

Love it, next I will be told a whole sentence from a speech is not relevant to the context

Typical labour supporter, lies

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:10 am

Catman wrote:Yes...But they still only get £70 to pay for all the things that i have listed which isn't possible.

I totally agree with you , £70 is not enough to live on, I wonder whether those banging on about how it is would change their tune if they had to live on it .

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:13 am

Maine coon lover wrote:
Catman wrote:Yes...But they still only get £70 to pay for all the things that i have listed which isn't possible.

I totally agree with you , £70 is not enough to live on, I wonder whether those banging on about how it is would change their tune if they had to live on it .

don't politicians get over a £100 per day expenses if they go to London for any reason, how can they say you can live on £70 per week when they take over £100 for a day, talk about unbalanced.

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:21 pm

Maine coon lover wrote:
Catman wrote:Yes...But they still only get £70 to pay for all the things that i have listed which isn't possible.

I totally agree with you , £70 is not enough to live on, I wonder whether those banging on about how it is would change their tune if they had to live on it .

Hi Maine coon and welcome to the board...

Some on here will tell you that £70 is adequate , and our very own Sphinx can survive on that fairly easily, can't work that out but there you go, Sphinx also runs. Car too btw...

Maybe Sphinx will come along and explain?


Oh sphinx, where are ya? Laughing 

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:24 pm

Joy Division wrote:
Maine coon lover wrote:

I totally agree with you , £70 is not enough to live on, I wonder whether those banging on about how it is would change their tune if they had to live on it .

Hi Maine coon  and welcome to the board...

Some on here will tell you that £70 is adequate , and our very own Sphinx can survive on that fairly easily, can't work that out but there you go, Sphinx also runs. Car too btw...

Maybe Sphinx will come along and explain?


Oh sphinx, where are ya? Laughing 

The RW will just tow the government line, doesn't matter how ridiculous it is.  Rolling Eyes 

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:28 pm

Catman wrote:
Joy Division wrote:

Hi Maine coon  and welcome to the board...

Some on here will tell you that £70 is adequate , and our very own Sphinx can survive on that fairly easily, can't work that out but there you go, Sphinx also runs. Car too btw...

Maybe Sphinx will come along and explain?


Oh sphinx, where are ya? Laughing 

The RW will just tow the government line, doesn't matter how ridiculous it is.  Rolling Eyes 


Too often true Phil

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:46 pm

Joy Division wrote:
Maine coon lover wrote:

I totally agree with you , £70 is not enough to live on, I wonder whether those banging on about how it is would change their tune if they had to live on it .

Hi Maine coon  and welcome to the board...

Some on here will tell you that £70 is adequate , and our very own Sphinx can survive on that fairly easily, can't work that out but there you go, Sphinx also runs. Car too btw...

Maybe Sphinx will come along and explain?


Oh sphinx, where are ya? Laughing 

hi thank you for the welcome.
There's no way someone can run a car on £70 a week

unless they only spend £10 a week on food and you can't get much for a tenna can you ?




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Post by Guest Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:55 pm

Maine coon lover wrote:
Catman wrote:Yes...But they still only get £70 to pay for all the things that i have listed which isn't possible.

I totally agree with you , £70 is not enough to live on, I wonder whether those banging on about how it is would change their tune if they had to live on it .
Basic jobseekers allowance in Ireland is €180 a week, plus €20 a week heating allowance in Winter, plus a very generous housing allowance. My friend who split up from her husband recently rents a new 4bed house (all en suite bathrooms) even though she only has two children, and even though her husband lives in his own 4 bed house just up the road on his own. Not sure exactly what she gets but she has said that she's never been so well off! Another friend's son used to get €180 a week jobseekers and he lived at home, but they recently cut that down for under 25s. Still very generous compared to the UK though.

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:00 pm

Maine coon lover wrote:
Joy Division wrote:

Hi Maine coon  and welcome to the board...

Some on here will tell you that £70 is adequate , and our very own Sphinx can survive on that fairly easily, can't work that out but there you go, Sphinx also runs. Car too btw...

Maybe Sphinx will come along and explain?


Oh sphinx, where are ya? Laughing 

hi thank you for the welcome.
There's no way someone can run a car on £70 a week

unless they only spend £10 a week on food and you can't get much for a tenna can you ?

No bother MCL, yes exactly £70 weekly is a pittance ,melt alone a tenner, but I'm just waiting on Sphinxy poops to come along and tell is that it is perfectly survivable to live from £70 a week, as Sphinx can tell us that if she can survive on that kind of money , then anyone can...

Sphinx,mim not having a dig btw, I'm only saying what you have said time and time again  :D 




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Post by Guest Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:01 pm

Tess. wrote:
Maine coon lover wrote:

I totally agree with you , £70 is not enough to live on, I wonder whether those banging on about how it is would change their tune if they had to live on it .
Basic jobseekers allowance in Ireland is €180 a week, plus €20 a week heating allowance in Winter, plus a very generous housing allowance.  My friend who split up from her husband recently rents a new 4bed house (all en suite bathrooms) even though she only has two children, and even though her husband lives in his own 4 bed house just up the road on his own.  Not sure exactly what she gets but she has said that she's never been so well off!  Another friend's son used to get €180 a week jobseekers and he lived at home, but they recently cut that down for under 25s.  Still very generous compared to the UK though.


Jings, that is generous Tess, the coalition would never give benefit claimants that here, never....

Nor the generous bedroom allowance.

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Tess. wrote:
Maine coon lover wrote:

I totally agree with you , £70 is not enough to live on, I wonder whether those banging on about how it is would change their tune if they had to live on it .
Basic jobseekers allowance in Ireland is €180 a week, plus €20 a week heating allowance in Winter, plus a very generous housing allowance.  My friend who split up from her husband recently rents a new 4bed house (all en suite bathrooms) even though she only has two children, and even though her husband lives in his own 4 bed house just up the road on his own.  Not sure exactly what she gets but she has said that she's never been so well off!  Another friend's son used to get €180 a week jobseekers and he lived at home, but they recently cut that down for under 25s.  Still very generous compared to the UK though.

yes it is generous but also with children the amount of benefit goes up, single or couple with children its still the same amount of heating cost .

a single person in the UK only gets £70 a week to pay for everything , Ireland obviously have a better benefits allowance which is good at least the standard of living is better .

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Joy Division wrote:
Tess. wrote:
Basic jobseekers allowance in Ireland is €180 a week, plus €20 a week heating allowance in Winter, plus a very generous housing allowance.  My friend who split up from her husband recently rents a new 4bed house (all en suite bathrooms) even though she only has two children, and even though her husband lives in his own 4 bed house just up the road on his own.  Not sure exactly what she gets but she has said that she's never been so well off!  Another friend's son used to get €180 a week jobseekers and he lived at home, but they recently cut that down for under 25s.  Still very generous compared to the UK though.


Jings, that is generous Tess, the coalition would never give benefit claimants that here, never....

Nor the generous bedroom allowance.

exactly they are working very hard to put people on the streets its their sadistic way of saying they don't give a toss about poor and vulnerable people , as long as they get richer that's all they care about .

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:12 pm

Didn't Ireland have a load of trouble with money?

Had to go begging to the Eurozone (and good old Blighty) if I remember...

Now, before you all go telling me that things are better with Ireland and the Euro, I've got some news for you - it's a disaster, and it's gonna blow!

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:14 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:Didn't Ireland have a load of trouble with money?

Had to go begging to the Eurozone (and good old Blighty) if I remember...

Now, before you all go telling me that things are better with Ireland and the Euro, I've got some news for you - it's a disaster, and it's gonna blow!

Good thing when it does then we all go down together , it might bring the best out in people because when we all have nothing we will need to help each other to survive , if it gets that bad .

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Post by Captain May Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:36 pm

Tess. wrote:
Maine coon lover wrote:

I totally agree with you , £70 is not enough to live on, I wonder whether those banging on about how it is would change their tune if they had to live on it .
Basic jobseekers allowance in Ireland is €180 a week, plus €20 a week heating allowance in Winter, plus a very generous housing allowance.  My friend who split up from her husband recently rents a new 4bed house (all en suite bathrooms) even though she only has two children, and even though her husband lives in his own 4 bed house just up the road on his own.  Not sure exactly what she gets but she has said that she's never been so well off!  Another friend's son used to get €180 a week jobseekers and he lived at home, but they recently cut that down for under 25s.  Still very generous compared to the UK though.

That seems very high and how they afford it is a mystery to me particularly when as someone said above we British gave Ireland £7billion Clearly they have spent it on welfare that will warm the cockles of our collective hearts.

If the economy of Ireland grows fast enough you may get away with those levels if it doesn't not a chance.

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