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Post by Guest Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:47 pm

A 14-year-old boy who stabbed his supply teacher in a racially-motivated attack has been sentenced to 11 years’ detention.
Bradford crown court heard how the boy made “sick” boasts about the attack online in the aftermath when he was being hunted by police, and that he was on bail for another offence at the time of the attack. The boy, who cannot be named for legal reasons, admitted causing grievous bodily harm with intent when he stabbed 50-year-old Vincent Uzomah in the stomach shortly before the start of a science lesson on 11 June this year.
But his lawyers denied that he launched the attack because the teacher was black, arguing instead that he was “angry” his mobile phone was being confiscated. Prosecutors reportedly said that the boy, who is of Pakistani origin, wrote on Facebook after the stabbing: “The m*********** getin funny so I stick the blade straight in his tummy.”


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/bradford-teacher-stabbing-boy-14-detained-for-11-years-for-racially-motivated-attack-on-vincent-uzomah-10448237.html

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:00 pm

The boy was Paki Muslim and The teacher was African overtly Christian... the boy definately also used insulting racist language towards the teacher during the attack...


Haven't seen much mention of the racist And religious aspects of this case... wonder what we would be hearing if it was a white British Christian boy who did this to a black or Asian Muslim teacher while hurling racist abuse...!!!???


lol!
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Post by Guest Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:03 pm

The teacher has already forgiven his attacker.
The church in the US again black victims, again they forgive the attacker.
There is much to be said about some Christians.

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Post by eddie Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:19 pm

Fourteen years old and already a nasty piece of work!
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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:30 pm

Yes he said he had forgiven him personally... and then also said how he strongly supported the need for justice through the courts.


But you didn't answer the other points I made...
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Post by Guest Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:35 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:The boy was Paki Muslim and The teacher was African overtly Christian... the boy definately also used insulting racist language towards the teacher during the attack...


Haven't seen much mention of the racist And religious aspects of this case... wonder what we would be hearing if it was a white British Christian boy who did this to a black or Asian Muslim teacher while hurling racist abuse...!!!???


lol!

What points?
The lol takes the view this is funny.
Only a racist idiot would think it was funny
This is in every major media
Its all over the story it was racist, clearly you need to go to specsavers

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:08 pm



This was the bit I was laughing at...


"wonder what we would be hearing if it was a white British Christian boy who did this to a black or Asian Muslim teacher while hurling racist abuse"


Because you know as well as I do that it would be getting no end of broadcasting... and for decades to come!


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Post by Guest Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:10 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

This was the bit I was laughing at...


"wonder what we would be hearing if it was a white British Christian boy who did this to a black or Asian Muslim teacher while hurling racist abuse"


Because you know as well as I do that it would be getting no end of broadcasting... and for decades to come!



Yes a lack of sensitivity because of your poor racial views.
This has been all over the news.
That is all you care about. Not that this man was stabbed, you only care when the attacker is a white racist, which shows what a warped view you have. Lets face it if he was white and British his religion would not even be mentioned

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:26 pm

This boys religion has not been mentioned... and The racially motivated aspect has also had little focus.





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Post by Guest Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:28 pm

Nonesense, even the title says racially motivated.

Sigh

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:36 pm

Wasn't it also religiously motivated...?
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Post by Guest Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:38 pm

No, racially, he called the man a f.....g n....r and worse.

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:00 pm

The racially motivated aspect of this has had very little media focus, and certainly not seen any of the media circus outrage around any of it as we would have definately seen if the boy had been white English.


The racially motivated aspect would have had centre stage wall to wall coverage had it been a white English boy...
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Post by Ben Reilly Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:34 am

BBC: "A 14-year-old boy who stabbed a supply teacher before bragging about the racially-motivated attack on Facebook has been handed an 11-year sentence."

Huffpo UK: "A teenager who stabbed a supply teacher and bragged about the attack on Facebook has been given six years in detention and five years on licence for the racially-motivated assault."

Reuters UK: "The attack was in part racially motivated, Sharp said. The pupil, who is too young to be named, used a highly offensive racist word just before stabbing Uzomah, who is black, he said."

The Guardian: "Vincent Uzomah, a supply teacher at Dixons Kings Academy in Bradford, Yorkshire, who was stabbed in a racially-motivated attack, says he forgives the boy who injured him."

I can find hardly any sources that don't mention race.
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Post by Irn Bru Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:41 am

From the news reports that I have seen race was almost always mentioned.

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Post by Ben Reilly Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:47 am

Irn Bru wrote:From the news reports that I have seen race was almost always mentioned.


There's probably some right-wing pundit saying that the media hasn't mentioned race Smile
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Post by Irn Bru Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:51 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Irn Bru wrote:From the news reports that I have seen race was almost always mentioned.


There's probably some right-wing pundit saying that the media hasn't mentioned race Smile

Probably!!!

It's a cast-iron certainty.

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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:54 am

Yes, the fact it was racially motivated was always mentioned as was the ethnicity of the teacher, and that he was overtly Christian... but the fact that the boy was a Paki Muslim was given almost no mention at all...


Although if the boy was white British then we all know that this would have been shouted from the rooftops followed by numerous debate about the nasty white racism that is endemic in our society etc... would never hear the last of it like the Lawrence killing...
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:55 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Yes, the fact it was racially motivated was always mentioned as was the ethnicity of the teacher, and that he was overtly Christian... but the fact that the boy was a Paki Muslim was given almost no mention at all...


Although if the boy was white British then we all know that this would have been shouted from the rooftops followed by numerous debate about the nasty white racism that is endemic in our society etc... would never hear the last of it like the Lawrence killing...


How often is the religion mentioned if white British based on such a crime?

Ten examples please if you will

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Post by Guest Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:56 am

Am off to work, thanbk goodness debating this idiot is enough for anyone to seek sanctury.

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Post by Ben Reilly Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:00 am

Cuchulain wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Yes, the fact it was racially motivated was always mentioned as was the ethnicity of the teacher, and that he was overtly Christian... but the fact that the boy was a Paki Muslim was given almost no mention at all...


Although if the boy was white British then we all know that this would have been shouted from the rooftops followed by numerous debate about the nasty white racism that is endemic in our society etc... would never hear the last of it like the Lawrence killing...


How often is the religion mentioned if white British based on such a crime?

Ten examples please if you will

Most madmen in both our countries were raised as Christians ... nobody mentions it because it has nothing to do with murdering a person ....

These guys aren't the Thuggee from Indiana Jones, they're from a real-life religion that doesn't condone murder Smile
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:26 am

The boys religion was not mentioned...
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:42 am

Tommy Monk wrote:The boys religion was not mentioned...

How often is the religion mentioned if white British based on such a crime?

Ten examples please if you will

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Post by Guest Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:15 am

Tommy Monk wrote:The boys religion was not mentioned...

Was he Pakistani?
How do you know?

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Post by Guest Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:18 am

Nems wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:The boys religion was not mentioned...

Was he Pakistani?
How do you know?

It says so in the report

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Post by Guest Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:19 am

Prosecutors reportedly said that the boy, who is of Pakistani origin, wrote on Facebook after the stabbing: “The m*********** getin funny so I stick the blade straight in his tummy.”

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Post by Guest Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:21 am

Sorry. Read it but didn't see it

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Post by Ben Reilly Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:24 am

Cuchulain wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:The boys religion was not mentioned...

How often is the religion mentioned if white British based on such a crime?

Ten examples please if you will

Exactly, this kid didn't do what he did because of religion, or probably race either -- he did it because he's a psychopathic little shit who'd murder someone because they confiscated his phone. All races and creeds produce vermin like that.
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:27 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

How often is the religion mentioned if white British based on such a crime?

Ten examples please if you will

Exactly, this kid didn't do what he did because of religion, or probably race either -- he did it because he's a psychopathic little shit who'd murder someone because they confiscated his phone. All races and creeds produce vermin like that.

Mmm the Asians do hate the blacks though. A lot of violence between them

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Post by Guest Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:30 am

Nems wrote:
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Exactly, this kid didn't do what he did because of religion, or probably race either -- he did it because he's a psychopathic little shit who'd murder someone because they confiscated his phone. All races and creeds produce vermin like that.

Mmm the Asians do hate the blacks though. A lot of violence between them

In this country in certain areas this is true, but how it is created and is different to the white black racism we see.
I would say it is more xenophobia than defined racism itself, even with Africans and Afro-Caribbean we see the same.
Most of it forms from a caste system.

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Post by Ben Reilly Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:22 am

Yep! Tiers of humanity. I think we all find that repugnant deep down, at least most of us, we just don't always see how the system's playing out around us.

Meanwhile, everyone makes a survival advantage out of whatever their environment offers them -- whether it's a rich white person learning how to get along with the old money society they were unlucky enough to be born into, or a nouveau riche Texan oilman putting cattle horns on his Cadilliac convertible, or a minority member figuring out how to squeeze out whatever the ghettos have to offer. We human beings survive, it's our speciality, whether we're herding farm animals or trapping bats and spreading Ebola (because seriously, nobody would eat bat meat unless they had to).

I think we'd all be better off if we could just recognize the common tendency to not want to die, and the ingenious ways people have come up with to avoid death all over the world (including having to go along with tyrants' decrees) -- maybe that would help us get along better? scratch
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:50 pm

No, this boy had been telling others of his intent before phone was asked for.


Black overtly Christian teacher and Paki Muslim boy... was definately racially motivated as he used racist language while carrying out the attack.


MY point is that this has not received even a fraction of the attention of media than it would had it been a white British boy doing the same to a black or Asian teacher.
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Post by Ben Reilly Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:01 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:No, this boy had been telling others of his intent before phone was asked for.


Black overtly Christian teacher and Paki Muslim boy... was definately racially motivated as he used racist language while carrying out the attack.


MY point is that this has not received even a fraction of the attention of media than it would had it been a white British boy doing the same to a black or Asian teacher.

How many stories have to be cited to you?
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:16 pm

I watched several news reports on this and never knew the boys ethnicity until I read the op on this thread.


If it was a white boy against a black or Asian teacher we would be hearing wall to wall coverage about how racist whites are.


HOw many times do I have to make this simple point without it being continually and intentionally misunderstood...!?
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