Large part of aircraft washed ashore at La Reunión island. Rumors of possibly MH370.

On Inagist and Twitter but can't find it on newsites at the mo.

Just starting:

http://www.airlive.net/2015/07/breaking-piece-of-wing-found-on-la.html

BREAKING Piece of wing found on La Réunion Island, is that could be flap of #MH370 ?

The debris of a wing plane was found this morning on west coast of La Réunion (French Island).

The presence of many shells, investigators confirm that the debris remained a while in the water.




An investigation was opened to determine the origin of the flight track. No track is currently preferred . Three hypotheses are nevertheless mentioned:

A debris from the crash of a twin-engine occurred May 4, 2006 close to the southern coast of the island.
A fragment of the flight MH370 Malaysia Airlines reported missing in the Indian Ocean in March 2014.
A piece of the A310 of Yemenia crashed off the Comoros in June 2009.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2916144/pg1

You have to be a member to see it, I am, but such a long time ago forgotten username and password. They are all nuts anyway!

sassy wrote:You have to be a member to see it, I am, but such a long time ago forgotten username and password.  They are all nuts anyway!

Hi sassy
Aren't all forum- dwellers nut jobs?

Be interested to see where this piece of aircraft if from.

eddie wrote:

sassy wrote:You have to be a member to see it, I am, but such a long time ago forgotten username and password.  They are all nuts anyway!

Hi sassy
Aren't all forum- dwellers nut jobs?

Be interested to see where this piece of aircraft if from.

True, but GodLikeProductions have a breed apart!

http://www.airlive.net/2015/07/breaking-piece-of-wing-found-on-la.html

We'll have to wait and see KD.

sassy wrote:

eddie wrote:

sassy wrote:You have to be a member to see it, I am, but such a long time ago forgotten username and password.  They are all nuts anyway!

Hi sassy
Aren't all forum- dwellers nut jobs?

Be interested to see where this piece of aircraft if from.

True, but GodLikeProductions have a breed apart!

I know! Tess is a member there I think? She a great poster though, wonder what she makes of the others?

sassy wrote:

eddie wrote:

Hi sassy
Aren't all forum- dwellers nut jobs?

Be interested to see where this piece of aircraft if from.

True, but GodLikeProductions have a breed apart!

Yep. I'm not speaking for the forum. Just...the only thing on the web at the time I searched.

A U.S. official says air safety investigators have a "high degree of confidence" that photos of aircraft debris found in the Indian Ocean is of a wing component unique to the Boeing 777, the same model as the Malaysia Airlines plane that disappeared last year.

The official says investigators — including a Boeing air safety investigator — have identified the component as a "flaperon" from the trailing edge of a 777 wing. A French official close to the investigation confirmed Wednesday that French law enforcement is on site to examine a piece of airplane wing found on the French island of Reunion, in the western Indian Ocean.

The U.S. and French officials spoke on condition that they not be named because they aren't authorized to speak publicly.

http://mashable.com/2015/07/29/mh370-indian-ocean-debris/?utm_cid=mash-com-Tw-main-link

Also on CNN:

Debris in Indian Ocean checked for MH370 ties

Boeing's initial assessment of photographs suggests that apparent airplane debris is consistent in appearance with a Boeing 777's flaperon, which is a piece of the plane's wing, a source close to the investigation tells CNN. The source said there is a unique element to the Boeing 777's flaperon that observers believe they are seeing in photos as well, though the source would not disclose what that detail is. The source stressed this is preliminary. The missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 was a Boeing 777. The debris was found Wednesday off the coast of Reunion island, a French department in the western Indian Ocean.

Apparent airplane debris found off the scoast of Reunion island, a French department in the western Indian Ocean, is being examined to see if it is connected to the 2014 disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, a member of the French air force in Reunion said Wednesday.

The debris was found off the coast of St. Andre, a community on the island, according to Adjutant Christian Retournat.

"It is way too soon to say whether or not it is MH370. We just found the debris this morning," Retournat said.

He said the debris -- what appears to be a wing flap -- has been taken to the island, located about 380 nautical miles off the coast of Madagascar.

Echoing Retournat's assertion that it's too early to make definitive statements, CNN analysts say there are indications that the airplane part could be from a Boeing 777, and if that's the case, it's likely from MH370.

Making the determination should be "very simple" because the serial numbers riveted to numerous parts of the plane can be linked to not only the plane's model, but the exact aircraft, said CNN aviation analyst Les Abend, who flew 777s during his 30 years as a pilot.

This means crash investigators may be able to figure it out from photographs of the part -- which could be an aileron, a flap or a flaperon -- even before arriving on the island, he said.

There are at least three elements of the discovery that are consistent with MH370, said CNN safety analyst David Soucie. The first is that the part appears to have been torn off of the aircraft.

"This is from a sudden impact, it looks like to me," Soucie said.

There also is a seal on the top of the part that "is consistent with what I would see on an inside flap on a triple 7," he said, and the barnacles on the part are consistent with the "parasitic activity" that would take place from being under water so long.

However, the part appears to be coated in white paint, which would run counter to Soucie's other observations in that the 777's parts would be coated in zinc chromate, not paint. Soucie acknowledged, however, that the part could be coated in something from the ocean.

"If it is a part from a triple 7, we can be fairly confident it is from 370 because there just haven't been that many triple 7 crashes and there haven't been any in this area," said CNN aviation analyst Mary Schiavo.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/29/africa/mh370-debris-investigation/index.html

Totally off-topic, but I love GLP -- home of the famous "Dinosaurs: Satan's Greatest Trick" post. Too bad you have to sign up to see that stuff now. Luckily someone got a screen grab:

Ben_Reilly wrote:Totally off-topic, but I love GLP -- home of the famous "Dinosaurs: Satan's Greatest Trick" post. Too bad you have to sign up to see that stuff now. Luckily someone got a screen grab:

I'd sugget having the parents involved sectioned under the mental health act would be the best way to help those poor kids

Let's hope those families can get some answers at last.

hmmm...lets hope so...but.......................

victorismyhero wrote:hmmm...lets hope so...but.......................

What's your but?

lets wait for official answers....theres been too many false hopes over this

victorismyhero wrote:lets wait for official answers....theres been too many false hopes over this

I agree. But it has to be from this aircraft surely...?

The wreckage that has been washed up looks like either the inboard or outboard Flaperon from a B777.

I dunno eddie...

if it IS from a 777 then it MUST be from that flight

however the jury is still out on this

yup Irn...except that the 777 is coated with zinc phosphate

This appears to be covered in white paint.......

eddie wrote:

victorismyhero wrote:lets wait for official answers....theres been too many false hopes over this

I agree. But it has to be from this aircraft surely...?

I think it is in fact Eddie I'd put your morgage on it

victorismyhero wrote:yup Irn...except that the 777 is coated with zinc phosphate

This appears to be covered in white paint.......

We'll just have to wait and see. Malaysian Airlines look a bit white to me.

more info

"Experts are expected to be able to use a code on the wing piece to quickly ascertain if it is from the Malaysia Airlines plane.

French TV showed images of the debris bearing the mark "657 BB".

That matches with a code in the Boeing 777 manual for a right-wing flaperon, according to a document posted on aviation websites."

http://news.sky.com/story/1528101/mh370-island-coast-searched-for-more-debris

If it's a part from a Boeing 777, it's MH 370.  Only five have gone down, and just one in the entire Indian Ocean. Malaysian Air flight MH 370.

Unless somebody deliberately planted a wing part in that water, it's from MH 370.

They were showing the Indian Ocean currents on TV last night and where the island is placed, it is perfectly possible for the plane to have gone down where they said and for broken pieces to have been taken to the island by the currents. They had a oceanographer work it out.

Original Quill wrote:If it's a part from a Boeing 777, it's MH 370.  Only five have gone down, and just one in the entire Indian Ocean.  Malaysian Air flight MH 370.

Unless somebody deliberately planted a wing part in that water, it's from MH 370.

MH370 investigators evacuated as Reunion Island volcano set to erupt

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/mh370-investigators-evacuated-as-reunion-island-volcano-set-to-erupt/story-fnizu68q-1227464754936

I would think that they already know the answer and will probably make a statement later.

Really sorry but I've missed the news and forums last three days or so.
What have we found out?

Waiting for news, they seem sure it's from a 777, and that flight was the only one unaccounted for. The piece was flown out for experts to look at.

Just found new info:

Flight MH370: second object found believed to be from missing plane

Metal sheet featuring Chinese symbols – possibly a door – discovered by passerby on Réunion 15 miles from first piece of debris



A second object – possibly a door – believed to be part of the missing Malaysia Airlines plane MH370 has been found washed up on the Indian Ocean island of Réunion.

The object, a metal sheet featuring Chinese symbols, was discovered by a passerby in Saint Denis, 15 miles (25km) from Saint-André, where the first piece of debris was found.

Authorities immediately cordoned off the perimeter and the object was taken away for further analysis.

The first piece of debris believed to be from the missing Boeing 777, a 2m-long movable part on the trailing edge of the wing called a flaperon, was found on Wednesday.

It is undergoing analysis in Toulouse, France, to assess whether it is from the Malaysia Airlines plane, which went missing in March last year. Malaysia Airlines said on Sunday that it had been confirmed as being from a 777 plane.

The transport minister, Liow Tiong Lai, said: “We know the flaperon has been officially identified as being part of a Boeing 777 aircraft. This has been verified by French authorities together with aircraft manufacturer Boeing, the US National Transportation Safety Board and a Malaysian team comprising the department of civil aviation, Malaysia Airlines, and Malaysian ICAO annex 13 safety investigation team for MH370.”

Liow also appealed for help from aviation authorities in territories in the vicinity of Réunion. “This is to allow the experts to conduct more substantive analysis should there be more debris coming on to land, providing us more clues to the missing aircraft,” he said.

Sunday’s discovery will increase confidence that the debris is from MH370 as there are no other missing 777s.

Malaysia’s deputy transport minister, Abdul Aziz Kaprawi, has said the debris could be “the convincing evidence that MH370 went down in the Indian Ocean”. However, others have urged caution, warning that even if the piece did belong to the missing plane, it would not reveal where the plane crashed or where other debris might be.

Before the flaperon was discovered by beach cleaners, the search for the missing passenger plane had gone cold, despite a massive operation involving planes and ships from more than 20 countries scouring the Indian Ocean.

A church service was held at Cambuston church in Saint-André on Saturday in memory of the 239 people on board the flight. More than 400 people attended the service at the church, which is located close to the beach where the first piece of debris was discovered.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/02/flight-mh370-debris-found-reunion-missing-plane

So it's probably from the missing plane then?
Mystery solved...?

People keep saying "flaperon" for the flaps on the edge of an aircrafts wing, the correct name is AILERON.

nicko wrote:People keep saying "flaperon"     for the flaps on the edge of an aircrafts wing,  the correct name is AILERON.

Actually there are both flaps and ailerons as illustrated

I stand corrected!

nicko wrote:I stand corrected!

Well, actually you were correct.  According to the diagram, it is the inboard aileron.

But I ran across this on Homebuilt Airplanes:

HA wrote:Mixed flaps and ailerons. They all move together for camber changing. The flaps move for landing. This leaves the outer wing flying at the safest AOA to keep the stall inboard and everything else is still flying when the inner wing hits the onset of stall. That is the safest. And I prefer large flap deflections to create a ton of drag for slowing down a low drag airframe.

If you don't have a need for camber changing then just flaps and ailerons.

Flaperons are a compromise. They aren't the best ailerons because the inner part moving doesn't quite move enough for what the outer part is moving. The aren't the best flaps because to get good flap action you end up putting the wingtips in an AOA where the stall is abrupt. Flaperons can reduce complexity which I believe is why they were used on the Cri Cri. That design used slotted flaperons which make effective flaps by sacrificing some drag when trimmed for cruise. They allow constructing a wing with no pushrods inside.

http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com/forums/aircraft-design-aerodynamics-new-technology/14361-what-do-you-prefer-flaperon-aileron-flap.html  Italics added.

And on Quora:

Quora wrote:Flaperons are airfoils with a dual purpose that is normally served by the combination of ailerons and flaps.

Ailerons control rotation around the longitudinal axis of an airplane. This is an imaginary line drawn from the nose to the tail of the plane. They accomplish this task by being placed near the wing tips and rotating in opposite directions to create torque to roll the plane as desired by the pilot.

Flaps are similar looking devices installed near the wing roots on both sides of the plane. When they are extended they increase the lift of the wing and also the drag. This is a trick to allow the plane to land and for some to take off at slower airspeeds than they could without the flaps. While in normal cruise flight the flaps are retracted to reduce the drag from both parasitic forces of having the flaps in the air flow and the induced drag from the increased lift the flaps produce. Flaps on both sides of the airplane move in unison to minimize the impact on aircraft control when they are deployed or retracted.

Flaperons on small planes are single airfoil devices on the trailing edge of each wing which usually extend for most or all the length of the wing. They have complex controls which allow for differential movement to produce the action normally performed by ailerons and to move together to produce the impact normally produced by flaps. I am not aware of any large planes that use these devices. Indeed large airliners have additional devices besides flaps and ailerons to help control the plane's lift and attitude. These additional devices include leading edge flaps sometimes called slats and vortex generators which are little devices installed mostly on the top of the wings.

http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-a-flaperon-and-an-aileron

It's the Flaperon - from the right wing I would say.

Plane debris found in Reunion Island belongs to MH370: Malaysia PM

Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak has confirmed that the recently discovered debris on the French Indian Ocean island of Reunion belongs to the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

“An international team of experts have ... confirmed that the aircraft debris found on Reunion Island is indeed from MH370," said Razak during a press conference in the Malaysian capital city of Kuala Lumpur on Wednesday.

"We now have physical evidence, that as I announced 24th March last year, flight MH370, tragically ended in the Southern Indian Ocean," he went on to say.

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/08/05/423445/Malaysia-Najib-Razak-MH370-Reunion-Island

A lot of people on social media saying it was planted

I must confess, I'd feel a bit more confident about it if I heard the confirmation from somebody other than the Malaysians.

eddie wrote:A lot of people on social media saying it was planted

naturally , no doubt the same ones who think the plane was abducted by aliens with the US govt's knowledge and approval

victorismyhero wrote:

eddie wrote:A lot of people on social media saying it was planted

naturally , no doubt the same ones who think the plane was abducted by aliens with the US govt's knowledge and approval

Can't hear you from the planet Ibwigzig

Well I did say that it was the flaperon almost a week ago.

You did lol. Now they are going to have to get oceanographers to make calculations, and even then the ocean is so deep and rough the chances of them finding anything not washed ashore is minimal. Anything heavy, like the black boxes, would have sunk to the bottom.

sassy wrote:You did lol.  Now they are going to have to get oceanographers to make calculations, and even then the ocean is so deep and rough the chances of them finding anything not washed ashore is minimal.  Anything heavy, like the black boxes, would have sunk to the bottom.

Those smileys are supposed to bow down - little shits.

They're LW, they bow to no man! LOL

Had words with them. Gulag and Saltmines. Did the trick

That made me giggle!

sassy wrote:Plane debris found in Reunion Island belongs to MH370: Malaysia PM

Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak has confirmed that the recently discovered debris on the French Indian Ocean island of Reunion belongs to the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

“An international team of experts have ... confirmed that the aircraft debris found on Reunion Island is indeed from MH370," said Razak during a press conference in the Malaysian capital city of Kuala Lumpur on Wednesday.

"We now have physical evidence, that as I announced 24th March last year, flight MH370, tragically ended in the Southern Indian Ocean," he went on to say.

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/08/05/423445/Malaysia-Najib-Razak-MH370-Reunion-Island

Is it only me that casts their eyes in the air, when news like this arrives my mind just goes elsewhere. One day the truth will be out and I just will not believe it. So many lies!