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Post by Guest Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:27 pm

A Muslim boarding school that threatens to expel students for mixing with "outsiders" has been rated "good" by Ofsted.
In its most recent report, the education watchdog praised the Institute of Islamic Education in Dewsbury for preparing its pupils for the changing needs of British Muslims. But according to documents handed to parents, seen by Sky News, pupils are forbidden from "socialising with outsiders" and face "expulsion if there is no improvement after cautioning". The school also provided a Pupil and Parent Handbook which contained a Sharia law section warning that having portable televisions or cameras is forbidden. The Institute is housed in Dewsbury’s Markazi Mosque compound and is run by the strict Tablighi Jamaat sect.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/Muslim-boarding-school-rated-good-by-ofsted-threatens-to-expel-pupils-for-mixing-with-outsiders-10415952.html

Yet more reasons why we should make all schools secular.


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Post by Guest Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:37 pm

Cuchulain wrote:A Muslim boarding school that threatens to expel students for mixing with "outsiders" has been rated "good" by Ofsted.
In its most recent report, the education watchdog praised the Institute of Islamic Education in Dewsbury for preparing its pupils for the changing needs of British Muslims. But according to documents handed to parents, seen by Sky News, pupils are forbidden from "socialising with outsiders" and face "expulsion if there is no improvement after cautioning". The school also provided a Pupil and Parent Handbook which contained a Sharia law section warning that having portable televisions or cameras is forbidden. The Institute is housed in Dewsbury’s Markazi Mosque compound and is run by the strict Tablighi Jamaat sect.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/Muslim-boarding-school-rated-good-by-ofsted-threatens-to-expel-pupils-for-mixing-with-outsiders-10415952.html

Yet more reasons why we should make all schools secular.

Yea saw this on the news and wasn`t impressed fuck knows what you learn in such an oppressive situation narrow minded religious dogma is about all you will learn there

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Post by eddie Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:47 pm

I've no idea how it got a "good" ofsted inspection report when one of the stipulations for a school is how well it's pupils integrate into the local community?
I know this for a fact as we used to discuss ofsted comments and stipulations in every governing body meeting as well as within the classroom!
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Post by Guest Sun Jul 26, 2015 4:53 pm

korban dallas wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:A Muslim boarding school that threatens to expel students for mixing with "outsiders" has been rated "good" by Ofsted.
In its most recent report, the education watchdog praised the Institute of Islamic Education in Dewsbury for preparing its pupils for the changing needs of British Muslims. But according to documents handed to parents, seen by Sky News, pupils are forbidden from "socialising with outsiders" and face "expulsion if there is no improvement after cautioning". The school also provided a Pupil and Parent Handbook which contained a Sharia law section warning that having portable televisions or cameras is forbidden. The Institute is housed in Dewsbury’s Markazi Mosque compound and is run by the strict Tablighi Jamaat sect.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/Muslim-boarding-school-rated-good-by-ofsted-threatens-to-expel-pupils-for-mixing-with-outsiders-10415952.html

Yet more reasons why we should make all schools secular.

Yea saw this on the news and wasn`t impressed fuck knows what you learn in such an oppressive situation narrow minded religious dogma is about all you will learn there

Agreed and how on earth are they preparing these children into adult life by segregating them?
Its time we did away with religious schools.

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Post by Guest Sun Jul 26, 2015 4:56 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
korban dallas wrote:
Yea saw this on the news and wasn`t impressed fuck knows what you learn in such an oppressive situation narrow minded religious dogma is about all you will learn there

Agreed and how on earth are they preparing these children into adult life by segregating them?
Its time we did away with religious schools.
you will get no argument from me on that said the same for years it should be up to the parents and churches/mosks/synagogues ect to teach religion not schools

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:11 pm



The Qur'an:Qur'an (5:51)
- "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends;
they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend,
then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

Qur'an (5:80)
- "You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is
that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased
with them and in chastisement shall they abide."  Those Muslims who
befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.
Qur'an (3:28)
- "Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than
believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except
by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them..." 
This last part means that the Muslim is allowed to feign friendship if it is of
benefit.  Renowned scholar Ibn Kathir states that "believers are allowed to
show friendship outwardly, but never inwardly."
Qur'an (3:118)
- "O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than
your own people, they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love
what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their
mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made
the communications clear to you, if you will understand."  This verse
not only warns Muslims not to take non-Muslims as friends, but it establishes
the deep-seated paranoia that the rest of the world is out to get them.
Qur'an (9:23)
- "O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if
they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for
friends, such are wrong-doers"  Even family members are not to be taken
as friends if they do not accept Islam.  (This is the mildest
interpretation of this verse from the 9th Sura, which also advocates "slaying
the unbeliever wherever ye find them").
Qur'an (53:29)
- "Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message and desire nothing but
the life of this world."
Qur'an (3:85)
- "And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted
from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers."
Qur'an (3:10)
- "(As for) those who disbelieve, surely neither their wealth nor their
children shall avail them in the least against Allah, and these it is who are
the fuel of the fire."  Those who do not believe in Muhammad are but
fuel for the fire of Hell (also 66:6, 2:24. 21:98).
Qur'an (7:44)
- "The Companions of the Garden will call out to the Companions of the Fire:
"We have indeed found the promises of our Lord to us true: Have you also found
Your Lord's promises true?" They shall say, "Yes"; but a crier shall proclaim
between them: "The curse of Allah is on the wrong-doers"  Muslims in
heaven will amuse themselves by looking down on non-Muslims in Hell and mocking
them while they are being tortured (see
22:19-22.
Qur'an (1:5-7)
- "Show us the straight path, The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not
the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray" 
This is a prayer that Muslims are supposed to repeat each day.  "Those who
earn Thine anger" specifically refers to Jews and "those who go astray" refers
to Christians (see

Bukhari (12:749)).

 


From the Hadith:
 

Muslim (1:417) - Taken to mean that one's own relatives should not be taken
as friends if they are not Muslim.
 

Abu Dawud (41:4815) - "The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: A man
follows the religion of his friend; so each one should consider whom he makes
his friend."

 
Abu Dawud (41:4832) - The
Messenger of Allah [said] "Do not keep company with anyone but a believer and
do not let anyone eat your food but one who is pious."
 

Bukhari (59:572) - "O you who believe! Take not my enemies And your
enemies as friends offering them (Your) love even though they have disbelieved
in that Truth (i.e. Allah, Prophet Muhammad and this Quran) which has come to
you."

 
Ishaq 262 - "Some Muslims remained friends with
the Jews, so Allah sent down a Qur'an forbidding them to take Jews as friends.
From their mouths hatred has already shown itself and what they conceal is
worse"

 
Ishaq 252 - The story of a young man who converts
to Islam after hearing Muhammad.  He then tells his own father that he can
no longer have anything to do with him because, "I have become a Muslim and
follow the religion of Muhammad."  (To maintain a relationship with his
son, the father "converts" as well).  This is an important
passage because it establishes that the principle of shunning is based merely on
the status of non-Muslims as unbelievers, not on their relations
toward Muslims.  In this case, the father desperately loved his son and
meant him no harm.
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Post by nicko Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:16 pm

Absolute load of bollocks and some believe it.
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Post by Ben Reilly Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:34 pm

Anybody who is capable of imagining, for a minute or two, that religion is ridiculous, can be convinced that it is in a few seconds Smile
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