Is It Selfish to Not Vaccinate Your Child? | Good Morning Britain

Phildidge wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

Most people born or living  before 1957 are immune to measles, simply because they've already had it.

I'm quoting that btw.

What a fucking imbicille

So if they are immune, they why are tens of thousands dying each year?

Many people are not dying in the west becasue?

HoratioTarr wrote:

Phildidge wrote:


What a fucking imbicille

So if they are immune, they why are tens of thousands dying each year?

Many people are not dying in the west becasue?

If you're going to attempt to insult me, at least spell the insult correctly.  

HoratioTarr wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:It's like saying that the flu jab must work if someone doesn't get flu. I didn't have flu last year, or the year before that, or the year before that, etc, and yet I didn't have the flu jab those years.

Most people born or living  before 1957 are immune to measles, simply because they've already had it.

I'm quoting that btw.

Raggamuffin wrote:Oh dear ...

Raggamuffin wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

Most people born or living  before 1957 are immune to measles, simply because they've already had it.

I'm quoting that btw.

Probably. My point is that if someone has a vaccine and doesn't get the disease, that doesn't necessarily mean that the vaccine worked.

HoratioTarr wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:If the lady's son got measles after the MMR, it's reasonable for her to think that the MMR vaccine doesn't work.

I think that having three vaccines in one is too much, but that's just my opinion.

Vaccinations have their place, of course they do.  But I do think what you say is right.  

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Not vaccinating children is child abuse, pure and simple...

Un-vaccinated children should not be allowed to start school..

If the parents refuse, fine them;  if they persist, jail them.

Idiotic mothers denying their childrens' welfare are no better then terrorists;  While the spineless fathers (if present, or even known..) should stop behaving like the eunuchs that they are, and learn to "grow a pair"..

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Not vaccinating children is child abuse, pure and simple...

Un-vaccinated children should not be allowed to start school..

If the parents refuse, fine them;  if they persist, jail them.

Idiotic mothers denying their childrens' welfare are no better then terrorists;  While the spineless fathers (if present, or even known..) should stop behaving like the eunuchs that they are, and learn to "grow a pair"..

Phildidge wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:Oh dear ...

I know Rags

How can someone so dumb speak such crap on vaccinations

She endangers lives and why she is an imbicille

Maybe you can do me a favour a slap her and knock some sense into that teeny tiny brain she has

You are intelligent, so I trust you to sway her in why she is stupid on this

Good luck

Raggamuffin wrote:

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Not vaccinating children is child abuse, pure and simple...

Un-vaccinated children should not be allowed to start school..

If the parents refuse, fine them;  if they persist, jail them.

Idiotic mothers denying their childrens' welfare are no better then terrorists;  While the spineless fathers (if present, or even known..) should stop behaving like the eunuchs that they are, and learn to "grow a pair"..

They're not necessarily against vaccines as such though. Also, the woman in the video is saying that it didn't work for her child. . There are reports of the MMR not being as effective as is claimed. She wasn't against the MMR - she had her kid vaccinated

Phildidge wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

They're not necessarily against vaccines as such though. Also, the woman in the video is saying that it didn't work for her child. . There are reports of the MMR not being as effective as is claimed. She wasn't against the MMR - she had her kid vaccinated

And this is why people are idiots

20 million have been saved from dying from measels

Please exaplin to me how that is not effective?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Phildidge wrote:

I know Rags

How can someone so dumb speak such crap on vaccinations

She endangers lives and why she is an imbicille

Maybe you can do me a favour a slap her and knock some sense into that teeny tiny brain she has

You are intelligent, so I trust you to sway her in why she is stupid on this

Good luck

I was commented on your lack of control and your ghastly temper.

Phildidge wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

If you're going to attempt to insult me, at least spell the insult correctly.  

Well that is the best excuse yet for being an ignorant fuckwit

Blame the other person educating you for being a fuckwit

The point is here, you ran away from the points and why?

Because iognorant fuckwits like you are so fucking stupid, that you instil fear into vaccinations which save lives

That to me means you are promoting a view comparable to terrorists

That makes you scum

You would rather promote a lie and do not care that people could die based off you lies

If I was a woman, I would slap you in the face

Raggamuffin wrote:

Phildidge wrote:

And this is why people are idiots

20 million have been saved from dying from measels

Please exaplin to me how that is not effective?

It's the possible side effects they're afraid of.

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Phildidge wrote:

Well that is the best excuse yet for being an ignorant fuckwit

Blame the other person educating you for being a fuckwit

The point is here, you ran away from the points and why?

Because iognorant fuckwits like you are so fucking stupid, that you instil fear into vaccinations which save lives

That to me means you are promoting a view comparable to terrorists

That makes you scum

You would rather promote a lie and do not care that people could die based off you lies

If I was a woman, I would slap you in the face

Horatio isn't simply a renown fuckwit around here,  Dodge...

She also remains one of the worst genuine 'trolls' on Newsfix;  indeed one of the worst internet trolls that I've encountered..

One day most people around here will recognise Horatio for the slithering and  nasty troll that she is --  I just hope that I'm still around here to see it..

Phildidge wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I was commented on your lack of control and your ghastly temper.

I am a cunt, but your friend is a terrorist. Such a terrorist with ignorance

She does not care how and why her ignorance could lead to people dying

She buys into spirituality, because she is utterly insecure. Its why she is so abusive, as she is has never found happiness

I have turned into a cunt for one simple reason

I am not going to tolerate you idiots anymore

I now back this up with evidence and actually enjoy making you look a complete dick

Raggamuffin wrote:

Phildidge wrote:

I am a cunt, but your friend is a terrorist. Such a terrorist with ignorance

She does not care how and why her ignorance could lead to people dying

She buys into spirituality, because she is utterly insecure. Its why she is so abusive, as she is has never found happiness

I have turned into a cunt for one simple reason

I am not going to tolerate you idiots anymore

I now back this up with evidence and actually enjoy making you look a complete dick

Don't be silly Didge. She's not a terrorist. That's a dreadful thing to say. She's not as abusive as you anyway. She seems perfectly happy to me - it's you who keeps having meltdowns and getting all steamed up because you can't force people to agree with you. Her view on this is not going to lead to anyone dying.

Raggamuffin wrote:The rumours about the link with autism/digestive problems still persist. The paper which was published in The Lancet was discredited, although it took a long time for The Lancet to retract it. The author had a conflict of interest, but does that mean that he was wrong? In addition, people are afraid of the side effect of meningitis.

Phildidge wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:



Don't be silly Didge. She's not a terrorist. That's a dreadful thing to say. She's not as abusive as you anyway. She seems perfectly happy to me - it's you who keeps having meltdowns and getting all steamed up because you can't force people to agree with you. Her view on this is not going to lead to anyone dying.

She is extrmist scum that is endangering lives, through her ignorance and needs to be exposed

What has abuise got to do with her endangering lives with her ignorance?

Seeming to be happy is not an excuse for spreading lies and endangering the lives of children

So if she sways someone to not have vaccinations, then this could lead to someone dying

Hence she is irresponisble, childish and immature

Phildidge wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:The rumours about the link with autism/digestive problems still persist. The paper which was published in The Lancet was discredited, although it took a long time for The Lancet to retract it. The author had a conflict of interest, but does that mean that he was wrong? In addition, people are afraid of the side effect of meningitis.

Actually his evidence was torn apart

As seen its been found that kids with autism, are those more likely to not be vaccinated

So if you want to go down a dead end here Rag, why are you not questioning that?

Have you even read many studies on this?

No, hence your views are as retarded as horatio, that terroirist scum

Raggamuffin wrote:

Phildidge wrote:

She is extrmist scum that is endangering lives, through her ignorance and needs to be exposed

What has abuise got to do with her endangering lives with her ignorance?

Seeming to be happy is not an excuse for spreading lies and endangering the lives of children

So if she sways someone to not have vaccinations, then this could lead to someone dying

Hence she is irresponisble, childish and immature

People can make up their own minds about vaccinations. What are you going to do - type furiously at us? Use capslock?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Phildidge wrote:

Actually his evidence was torn apart

As seen its been found that kids with autism, are those more likely to not be vaccinated

So if you want to go down a dead end here Rag, why are you not questioning that?

Have you even read many studies on this?

No, hence your views are as retarded as horatio, that terroirist scum

I'm not claiming anything here, I'm merely saying that I understand why some people are wary of the MMR.

Phildidge wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

People can make up their own minds about vaccinations. What are you going to do - type furiously at us? Use capslock?

Why would people need to make up their own mids Rags

I cannot believe the stupidity this forum is exposed

How many people have been saved by measels vaccinations

How many died before this?

Do the maths

Phildidge wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I'm not claiming anything here, I'm merely saying that I understand why some people are wary of the MMR.

I do as well, that they are gullible to social media and that they have zero medical knowledge

Lets destroy your dumb argument

Why would anyone be wary of a jab that saves lives?

To not have this jab, would vastly increase your chances of contracting the very illnesses its created to prevent

You would have to be a copmplete fuckwit to be wary of something that proects billions of children?

So why would you be wary of something that is protecting your child?

Again possible complications against deaths without these vaccines?

Do the maths

Vintage wrote:The government figures for measles notifications and deaths from 1941 to 2016 make interesting reading, from 1941 to 49 there were a large number of deaths reported 1950/51 there was a decrease in deaths, 1953 was a bad year, though thereafter through the rest of the 50's, when there was no vaccinations, the deaths continued to decrease, largely I suppose due to antibiotics to fight the secondary infections that caused the deaths.
As a child of the 1950's I had measles, rubella and chicken pox, in fact it was usual to be allowed to be exposed to these diseases to 'get it over with'!
The only people you weren't allowed to be near when you had any of these was an adult who'd escaped any of them and pregnant women.

The first vaccination I ever had was when I was about 6 when we had the polio vaccine on a sugar cube, followed by smallpox when there was an outbreak. Since then I've had nothing until the flu vaccine.
When it came time for the vaccinations for my daughter I read all I could and was happy for most of them, the MMR
I was a bit concerned about but only because it was a three in one, she had it though.

Vintage wrote:The government figures for measles notifications and deaths from 1941 to 2016 make interesting reading, from 1941 to 49 there were a large number of deaths reported 1950/51 there was a decrease in deaths, 1953 was a bad year, though thereafter through the rest of the 50's, when there was no vaccinations, the deaths continued to decrease, largely I suppose due to antibiotics to fight the secondary infections that caused the deaths.
As a child of the 1950's I had measles, rubella and chicken pox, in fact it was usual to be allowed to be exposed to these diseases to 'get it over with'!
The only people you weren't allowed to be near when you had any of these was an adult who'd escaped any of them and pregnant women.

The first vaccination I ever had was when I was about 6 when we had the polio vaccine on a sugar cube, followed by smallpox when there was an outbreak. Since then I've had nothing until the flu vaccine.
When it came time for the vaccinations for my daughter I read all I could and was happy for most of them, the MMR
I was a bit concerned about but only because it was a three in one, she had it though.

Raggamuffin wrote:Oh dear ...

Raggamuffin wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

Most people born or living  before 1957 are immune to measles, simply because they've already had it.

I'm quoting that btw.

Probably. My point is that if someone has a vaccine and doesn't get the disease, that doesn't necessarily mean that the vaccine worked.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Phildidge wrote:

Why would people need to make up their own mids Rags

I cannot believe the stupidity this forum is exposed

How many people have been saved by measels vaccinations

How many died before this?

Do the maths

Of course they need to make up their own minds. If they have a kid, they make a decision about the MMR. It's up to them to do the research.

Quit the abuse and calm down.

Phildidge wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:The rumours about the link with autism/digestive problems still persist. The paper which was published in The Lancet was discredited, although it took a long time for The Lancet to retract it. The author had a conflict of interest, but does that mean that he was wrong? In addition, people are afraid of the side effect of meningitis.

Actually his evidence was torn apart

As seen its been found that kids with autism, are those more likely to not be vaccinated

So if you want to go down a dead end here Rag, why are you not questioning that?

Have you even read many studies on this?

No, hence your views are as retarded as horatio, that terroirist scum

Raggamuffin wrote:

Phildidge wrote:

Why would people need to make up their own mids Rags

I cannot believe the stupidity this forum is exposed

How many people have been saved by measels vaccinations

How many died before this?

Do the maths

Of course they need to make up their own minds. If they have a kid, they make a decision about the MMR. It's up to them to do the research.

Quit the abuse and calm down.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Phildidge wrote:

I do as well, that they are gullible to social media and that they have zero medical knowledge

Lets destroy your dumb argument

Why would anyone be wary of a jab that saves lives?

To not have this jab, would vastly increase your chances of contracting the very illnesses its created to prevent

You would have to be a copmplete fuckwit to be wary of something that proects billions of children?

So why would you be wary of something that is protecting your child?

Again possible complications against deaths without these vaccines?

Do the maths

Of course some people are wary of jabs. I was wary of the flu jab and didn't have one until I was hospitalised a month or two ago. I then decided to have a flu jab.

HoratioTarr wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Of course they need to make up their own minds. If they have a kid, they make a decision about the MMR. It's up to them to do the research.

Quit the abuse and calm down.

Not once has any of us said we think vaccines are unnecessary.   I certainly haven't.    He's got his truss in a bunch because he loves a ruck and all he has circulating in his head is me me me

Phildidge wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Of course some people are wary of jabs. I was wary of the flu jab and didn't have one until I was hospitalised a month or two ago. I then decided to have a flu jab.

So I guess you never venture into the dentist then?

Why should you be wary when your fear is based on ignorance?

HoratioTarr wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Of course they need to make up their own minds. If they have a kid, they make a decision about the MMR. It's up to them to do the research.

Quit the abuse and calm down.

Not once has any of us said we think vaccines are unnecessary.   I certainly haven't.    He's got his truss in a bunch because he loves a ruck and all he has circulating in his head is me me me

Phildidge wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

Not once has any of us said we think vaccines are unnecessary.   I certainly haven't.    He's got his truss in a bunch because he loves a ruck and all he has circulating in his head is me me me

Is that why you  brought up something 70 years ago around preganncy to make your poor argument?

Sorry but poor lying does not bode well when you are a lying idiot out to spread your extreme views on s subject that you know knothing about. Of course you could cure them by a mssage

Raggamuffin wrote:

Phildidge wrote:

So I guess you never venture into the dentist then?

Why should you be wary when your fear is based on ignorance?

It's not based on ignorance, it's based on possible side effects which I didn't want. My teeth are fine without a dentist thanks.

Phildidge wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

It's not based on ignorance, it's based on possible side effects which I didn't want. My teeth are fine without a dentist thanks.

Then I suggest you never have any medication ever again, being the fact there is potential side effects to just about everything

Hence ignorance

Would you rather have a mild problem or suffer death?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Phildidge wrote:

Then I suggest you never have any medication ever again, being the fact there is potential side effects to just about everything

Hence ignorance

Would you rather have a mild problem or suffer death?

I take medication which has potentially very serious side effects. However, the benefits outweigh the risks. I did not consider that the risks of the flu jab outweighed the benefits until recently.

Phildidge wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I take medication which has potentially very serious side effects. However, the benefits outweigh the risks. I did not consider that the risks of the flu jab outweighed the benefits until recently.

So the benefits outweigh the possibility of death

Which is what vaccines do for millions of children

Hence its a no brianer for children to be vaccinated

Parents that deny them this, should have their children taken off them, as they are unfit to raise them

Raggamuffin wrote:

Phildidge wrote:

Is that why you  brought up something 70 years ago around preganncy to make your poor argument?

Sorry but poor lying does not bode well when you are a lying idiot out to spread your extreme views on s subject that you know knothing about. Of course you could cure them by a mssage

You're missing the point. Have you seen a list of withdrawn drugs? It's quite long.

Phildidge wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

You're missing the point. Have you seen a list of withdrawn drugs? It's quite long.

How many withdrawn vacccines are there?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Phildidge wrote:

How many withdrawn vacccines are there?

Check out what happened with the early MMR vaccine.

Phildidge wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Check out what happened with the early MMR vaccine.

Why do I need to check out anything?

How many lives has it saved?

You see why you are an idiot?

Phildidge wrote:I am waiting for Rags to make herself look even more stupid here

In reagrds to this version of the vaccine earlier

Hence how many millions did it save?: