More evidence that nazism was left wing

Tommy Monk wrote:Goebbels said it...!


"...I am a socialist..."

Adolph Hitler

Original Quill wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Goebbels said it...!

"...I am a socialist..."

Adolph Hitler

And you believed him, just like every other thing a RW'er said.  Hey, tommy...Goebbels was your man...don't lay him off on us if he lies.

Tommy Monk wrote:Comparison of Nazism and Stalinism
A number of authors have carried out comparisons of Nazism and Stalinism, in which they have considered the issues of whether the two ideologies were similar or different, how these conclusions affect understanding of 20th century history, what relationship existed between the two regimes, and why both of them came to prominence at the same time.

This article also includes quotes about Fascism and Marxism, even though these are not necessarily synonymous with Nazism and Stalinism.

Quotes Edit

Marxism has led to Fascism and National-Socialism, because, in all essentials, it is Fascism and National Socialism.
Frederick Augustus Voigt, Unto Cæsar (1939), p. 95
Fascism and Bolshevism are not two opposing principles, they are both the negation of the same principles of freedom and order.”
Francesco Saverio Nitti, "Bolshevism, Fascism and Democracy" by former Prime Minister of Italy (1927) pp. 126-127
Roosevelt had no illusions about revolution. Mussolini and Stalin seemed to him ‘not mere distant relatives’ but ‘blood brothers.’
Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., The Politics of Upheaval: 1935-1936 (The Age of Roosevelt, Vol. III), New York: NY, Mariner Book: Houghton Mifflin Co. (2003) p. 648.
Some of the similarities and parallels include: Frequent recognition by Hitler and various Nazi leaders (and also Mussolini) that their only revolutionary and ideological counterparts were to be found in the Soviet Union . . . [and the] espousal of the have-not, proletarian-nation theory, which Lenin adopted only after it had been introduce in Italy . . . Hitlerian National Socialism more nearly paralleled Russian communism than has any other non-Communist system.
Stanley G. Payne, A History of Fascism, 1914-1945, University of Wisconsin Press (1995) pp. 210-211
Kurt Schumacher, the charismatic leader of the Social Democrats who had suffered nine years in Hitler’s concentration camps, called the German Communists ‘red-painted nazis.’
Melvyn P. Leffler, and Odd Arne Westad, ed., The Cambridge History of the Cold War, Volume 1 Origins, Cambridge University Press (2010) p. 150
Fascism and Communism represented the urge of the lower middle class to complete the French Revolution—which had signalized the victory of the 'Third Estate' over the Church, the monarchy, and the feudal aristocracy—by destroying, in turn, the privileges of the new capitalist class brought into being by the Industrial Revolution.
Vera Micheles head, Europe in Retreat, New York: NY, Alfred A. Knopf, Inc. (1939 revised edition) p. 87.
The Bolshevists set the precedent. The success of the Lenin clique encouraged the Mussolini gang and the Hitler troops. Both Italian Fascism and German Nazism adopted the political methods of Soviet Russia. The only difference between Nazism and Bolshevism is that the Nazis got a much bigger minority in the elections preceding their coup d’état than the Bolsheviks got in the Russian elections in the fall of 1917.
Ludwig von Mises, Omnipotent Government: The Rise of the Total State and the Total War, Mises Institute (2010) pp. 178-179. First published in 1944 by Yale University Press.
Between the misdeeds of Hitler and those of Stalin, in my opinion, there exists only a quantitative difference... I don't know if the Communist idea, if its theory, already contained a basic fault or if only the Soviet practice under Stalin betrayed the original idea and established in the Soviet Union a kind of Fascism.
Margarete Buber-Neumann, Under Two Dictators: Prisoner of Stalin and Hitler, London: UK, Pimlico, (2008), p. 300. First published in 1949.
Stalinism and fascism, in spite of a deep difference in social foundations, are symmetrical phenomena. In many of their features they show a deadly similarity.
Leon Trotsky, The Revolution Betrayed: What Is the Soviet Union and Where Is It Going? , Labor Publications, Inc., Detroit, MI (1991) pp. 237-238., Chap. 11, “Whither the Soviet Union.” First published 1937)
Lenin was the greatest man, second only to Hitler, and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight.
Joseph Goebbels, as quoted in The New York Times, “HITLERITE RIOT IN BERLIN: Beer Glasses Fly When Speaker Compares Hitler and Lenin,” (Nov. 28, 1925) p. 4.
[T]he totalitarian states, whether of the fascist or the communist persuasion, are more than superficially alike as dictatorships, in the suppression of dissent, and in operating planned and directed economies. They are profoundly alike.
Walter Lippman, The Good Society, News Brunswick: NJ, Transaction Publications (2005) p. 89. First published in 1937
In spite of Bolshevism’s and fascism’s different attitudes, above all, private property and nationalism, both fascists and antifascists acknowledged common sources and resulting similarities between Bolshevism and fascism, including their revolutionary ideology, their elitism, their disdain for bourgeois values, and their totalitarian ambitions.
Cyprian P. Blamires, editor, World Fascism: A Historical Encyclopedia, Volume 1, Santa Barbara: CA, ABC-CLIO, Inc. (2006) p.p. 95-96.
What the Nazis have introduced in Germany is a form of graduated Bolshevism, directing their first attack not against the capitalist class as a whole, but against Jewish capitalists, excoriated on racial rather than economic grounds…Nor is there reason to expect that the Nazis will stop at this point.
Vera Micheles head, Europe in Retreat, Alfred A. Knopf, Inc., New York (1939 revised edition), p. 207.
A number of features of Bolshevism and Nazism/Fascism did show striking similarities, including their revolutionary action and proletarian nation theories, leadership principles, one-party dictatorship, and party armies. Hitler publicly acknowledge his debt to the Bolsheviks when, for instance, proposing to make Munich ‘the Moscow of our movement.'
Cyprian P. Blamires, editor, World Fascism: A Historical Encyclopedia, Volume 1, Santa Barbara: CA, ABC-CLIO, Inc. (2006) p. 96.
The modern State claims all of these powers, and, in the matter of theory, there is no real difference in the size of the claim between communists, fascists, and democrats.
Walter Lippman, A Preface to Morals, News Brunswick: NJ, Transaction Publishers (1982) p. 80. First published in 1929.
[F]ascism and communism are not two opposites, but two rival gangs fighting over the same territory—both are variants of statism, based on the collectivist principle that man is the rightless slave of the state.
Ayn Rand, Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, New York: NY, Signet Book from the New American Library (1967) p. 180
By the time of the disintegration of the Soviet Union, Marxist theoreticians had begun to evaluate fascism in a totally unanticipated fashion . . . More than that, as Marxist theorists were compelled to reinterpret fascism in the light of empirical evidence and political circumstances, the fundamental affinities shared by Marxist and fascist regimes became apparent.
A. James Gregor, "The Faces of Janus: Marxism and Fascism in the Twentieth Century", Yale University Press (2000) p. 13
I must confess that I think as most German businessmen do who fear National Socialism as much as they did Communism in 1932… Business friends of mine are convinced that it will be the turn of the ‘white Jews’ (which means us, Aryan businessmen) after the Jews have been expropriated… These Nazi radicals think of nothing except ‘distributing the wealth’… Some businessmen have even started studying Marxist theories, so that they will have a better understanding of the present economic system.
Günter Reimann, The Vampire Economy: Doing Business Under Fascism, Mises Institute (2014) p. 6. Letter from German businessman, first published in 1939.
[B]y the early 1930s, the 'convergence' of fascism and Stalinism struck Marxists and non-Marxists alike.... By the mid-1930s, even Trotsky could insist that 'Stalinism and fascism, in spite of deep difference in social foundations, are symmetrical phenomena'.
Arnold Beichman, “The Surprising Roots of Fascism,” "Policy Review" #102, Hoover Institution (Aug. 1, 2000)
What Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism failed to accomplish, we shall be in a position to achieve.
Adolf Hitler, according to Otto Wagener in Hitler Memoirs of a Confidant, editor, Henry Ashby Turner, Jr., Yale University Press (1985) p. 149.
From the point of view of fundamental human liberties there is little to choose between communism, socialism, and national socialism. They all are examples of the collectivist or totalitarian state … in its essentials not only is completed socialism the same as communism but it hardly differs from fascism.
Ivor Thomas, in The Socialist Tragedy (1951), p. 241.
Russia was the example for fascism... Whether party ‘communists’ like it or not, the fact remains that the state order and rule in Russia are indistinguishable from those in Italy and Germany. Essentially they are alike. One may speak of a red, black, or brown ‘soviet state’, as well as of red, black or brown fascism.
Otto Rühle, “The Struggle Against Fascism Begins with the Struggle Against Bolshevism,” the American Councillist journal Living Marxism, (1939) Vol. 4, No. 8.
‘Nazis despotism’ [is] an equally hateful though more efficient form of the communist despotism.
Winston Churchill, “Excerpts from Churchill’s Manchester Speech,” The New York Times (Jan. 28, 1940)
The monstrous evils of the twentieth century have shown us that the greediest money grubbers are gentle doves compared with money-hating wolves like Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler, who in less than three decades killed or maimed nearly a hundred million men, women, and children and brought untold suffering to a large portion of mankind.
Eric Hoffer, In Our Time (1976) "Money," p. 37
Yet it is clear that both systems, the [Nazi] German and the [Soviet] Russian, must be considered from an economic point of view as socialist… Socialism is and has always been considered a system of economic organization of society. It is the system under which the government has full control of production and distribution. As far as socialism existing merely within individual countries can be called genuine, both Russia and Germany are right in calling their systems socialist.
Ludwig von Mises, Omnipotent Government: The Rise of the Total State and the Total War, Mises Institute (2010) p. 178. First published in 1944 by Yale University Press.
Fascism was the shadow or ugly child of communism . . . As Fascism sprang from Communism, so Nazism developed from Fascism. Thus were set on foot those kindred movements which were destined soon to plunge the world into more hideous strife, which none can say has ended with their destruction.
Winston Churchill, The Second World War, Volume 1, The Gathering Storm, Mariner Books (1985) pp. 13-14. First published in 1948.


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Thorin wrote:So let me get this straight.

Tommy's reasoning, that the Nazi's are left wing are based on one quote praising a murdering Dictator in Lenin. Basing this around not Nazism, but a comparison of Communism and the Hitler's faith.

Sorry, but one moment?



That based on Tommy's comical methodology. That Nazism is not based on a known ideology, but that its only known and understood to the views of one Nazi and not that of Hitler himself, but Joseph Gobbles. 

Yep completely flawed and daft.

The view is not even claiming political comparability, as Gobbles hated Communism with a passion. The Jews were blamed for Communism and his works are so anti-Communist. Its embarrassing, that I need even point this out here.

That is the first clue Gobbles is not entertaining political comparability.

The Second key point is to just read one of the countless speechs by Gobbles on where he hated communism.

For example, the one he gave to the Nazi annual conference on 13 September 1935.

The Third key point is the word "faith" 

This is the second clue.

Now going to sit back and watch someone fumbled badly

Thorin wrote:So let me get this straight.

Tommy's reasoning, that the Nazi's are left wing are based on one quote praising a murdering Dictator in Lenin. Basing this around not Nazism, but a comparison of Communism and the Hitler's faith.

Sorry, but one moment?



That based on Tommy's comical methodology. That Nazism is not based on a known ideology, but that its only known and understood to the views of one Nazi and not that of Hitler himself, but Joseph Gobbles. 

Yep completely flawed and daft.

The view is not even claiming political comparability, as Gobbles hated Communism with a passion. The Jews were blamed for Communism and his works are so anti-Communist. Its embarrassing, that I need even point this out here.

That is the first clue Gobbles is not entertaining political comparability.

The Second key point is to just read one of the countless speechs by Gobbles on where he hated communism.

For example, the one he gave to the Nazi annual conference on 13 September 1935.

The Third key point is the word "faith" 

This is the second clue.

Now going to sit back and watch someone fumbled badly

Kurt Schumacher, the charismatic leader of the Social Democrats who had suffered nine years in Hitler’s concentration camps, called the German Communists ‘red-painted nazis.’

Tommy Monk wrote:

Thorin wrote:So let me get this straight.

Tommy's reasoning, that the Nazi's are left wing are based on one quote praising a murdering Dictator in Lenin. Basing this around not Nazism, but a comparison of Communism and the Hitler's faith.

Sorry, but one moment?



That based on Tommy's comical methodology. That Nazism is not based on a known ideology, but that its only known and understood to the views of one Nazi and not that of Hitler himself, but Joseph Gobbles. 

Yep completely flawed and daft.

The view is not even claiming political comparability, as Gobbles hated Communism with a passion. The Jews were blamed for Communism and his works are so anti-Communist. Its embarrassing, that I need even point this out here.

That is the first clue Gobbles is not entertaining political comparability.

The Second key point is to just read one of the countless speechs by Gobbles on where he hated communism.

For example, the one he gave to the Nazi annual conference on 13 September 1935.

The Third key point is the word "faith" 

This is the second clue.

Now going to sit back and watch someone fumbled badly

So Tommy avoided yet again.

PMSL







Hardly... numerous quotes have been provided from various intellectual sources...!!!

Ben Reilly wrote:Love this part:

Kurt Schumacher, the charismatic leader of the Social Democrats who had suffered nine years in Hitler’s concentration camps, called the German Communists ‘red-painted nazis.’

So are Social Democrats right-wing now?

Tommy Monk wrote:He was obviously saying that the German Communists and the Nazis were very much the same...

Tommy Monk wrote:Comparison of Nazism and Stalinism
A number of authors have carried out comparisons of Nazism and Stalinism, in which they have considered the issues of whether the two ideologies were similar or different, how these conclusions affect understanding of 20th century history, what relationship existed between the two regimes, and why both of them came to prominence at the same time.

This article also includes quotes about Fascism and Marxism, even though these are not necessarily synonymous with Nazism and Stalinism.

Quotes Edit

Marxism has led to Fascism and National-Socialism, because, in all essentials, it is Fascism and National Socialism.
Frederick Augustus Voigt, Unto Cæsar (1939), p. 95
Fascism and Bolshevism are not two opposing principles, they are both the negation of the same principles of freedom and order.”
Francesco Saverio Nitti, "Bolshevism, Fascism and Democracy" by former Prime Minister of Italy (1927) pp. 126-127
Roosevelt had no illusions about revolution. Mussolini and Stalin seemed to him ‘not mere distant relatives’ but ‘blood brothers.’
Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., The Politics of Upheaval: 1935-1936 (The Age of Roosevelt, Vol. III), New York: NY, Mariner Book: Houghton Mifflin Co. (2003) p. 648.
Some of the similarities and parallels include: Frequent recognition by Hitler and various Nazi leaders (and also Mussolini) that their only revolutionary and ideological counterparts were to be found in the Soviet Union . . . [and the] espousal of the have-not, proletarian-nation theory, which Lenin adopted only after it had been introduce in Italy . . . Hitlerian National Socialism more nearly paralleled Russian communism than has any other non-Communist system.
Stanley G. Payne, A History of Fascism, 1914-1945, University of Wisconsin Press (1995) pp. 210-211
Kurt Schumacher, the charismatic leader of the Social Democrats who had suffered nine years in Hitler’s concentration camps, called the German Communists ‘red-painted nazis.’
Melvyn P. Leffler, and Odd Arne Westad, ed., The Cambridge History of the Cold War, Volume 1 Origins, Cambridge University Press (2010) p. 150
Fascism and Communism represented the urge of the lower middle class to complete the French Revolution—which had signalized the victory of the 'Third Estate' over the Church, the monarchy, and the feudal aristocracy—by destroying, in turn, the privileges of the new capitalist class brought into being by the Industrial Revolution.
Vera Micheles head, Europe in Retreat, New York: NY, Alfred A. Knopf, Inc. (1939 revised edition) p. 87.
The Bolshevists set the precedent. The success of the Lenin clique encouraged the Mussolini gang and the Hitler troops. Both Italian Fascism and German Nazism adopted the political methods of Soviet Russia. The only difference between Nazism and Bolshevism is that the Nazis got a much bigger minority in the elections preceding their coup d’état than the Bolsheviks got in the Russian elections in the fall of 1917.
Ludwig von Mises, Omnipotent Government: The Rise of the Total State and the Total War, Mises Institute (2010) pp. 178-179. First published in 1944 by Yale University Press.
Between the misdeeds of Hitler and those of Stalin, in my opinion, there exists only a quantitative difference... I don't know if the Communist idea, if its theory, already contained a basic fault or if only the Soviet practice under Stalin betrayed the original idea and established in the Soviet Union a kind of Fascism.
Margarete Buber-Neumann, Under Two Dictators: Prisoner of Stalin and Hitler, London: UK, Pimlico, (2008), p. 300. First published in 1949.
Stalinism and fascism, in spite of a deep difference in social foundations, are symmetrical phenomena. In many of their features they show a deadly similarity.
Leon Trotsky, The Revolution Betrayed: What Is the Soviet Union and Where Is It Going? , Labor Publications, Inc., Detroit, MI (1991) pp. 237-238., Chap. 11, “Whither the Soviet Union.” First published 1937)
Lenin was the greatest man, second only to Hitler, and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight.
Joseph Goebbels, as quoted in The New York Times, “HITLERITE RIOT IN BERLIN: Beer Glasses Fly When Speaker Compares Hitler and Lenin,” (Nov. 28, 1925) p. 4.
[T]he totalitarian states, whether of the fascist or the communist persuasion, are more than superficially alike as dictatorships, in the suppression of dissent, and in operating planned and directed economies. They are profoundly alike.
Walter Lippman, The Good Society, News Brunswick: NJ, Transaction Publications (2005) p. 89. First published in 1937
In spite of Bolshevism’s and fascism’s different attitudes, above all, private property and nationalism, both fascists and antifascists acknowledged common sources and resulting similarities between Bolshevism and fascism, including their revolutionary ideology, their elitism, their disdain for bourgeois values, and their totalitarian ambitions.
Cyprian P. Blamires, editor, World Fascism: A Historical Encyclopedia, Volume 1, Santa Barbara: CA, ABC-CLIO, Inc. (2006) p.p. 95-96.
What the Nazis have introduced in Germany is a form of graduated Bolshevism, directing their first attack not against the capitalist class as a whole, but against Jewish capitalists, excoriated on racial rather than economic grounds…Nor is there reason to expect that the Nazis will stop at this point.
Vera Micheles head, Europe in Retreat, Alfred A. Knopf, Inc., New York (1939 revised edition), p. 207.
A number of features of Bolshevism and Nazism/Fascism did show striking similarities, including their revolutionary action and proletarian nation theories, leadership principles, one-party dictatorship, and party armies. Hitler publicly acknowledge his debt to the Bolsheviks when, for instance, proposing to make Munich ‘the Moscow of our movement.'
Cyprian P. Blamires, editor, World Fascism: A Historical Encyclopedia, Volume 1, Santa Barbara: CA, ABC-CLIO, Inc. (2006) p. 96.
The modern State claims all of these powers, and, in the matter of theory, there is no real difference in the size of the claim between communists, fascists, and democrats.
Walter Lippman, A Preface to Morals, News Brunswick: NJ, Transaction Publishers (1982) p. 80. First published in 1929.
[F]ascism and communism are not two opposites, but two rival gangs fighting over the same territory—both are variants of statism, based on the collectivist principle that man is the rightless slave of the state.
Ayn Rand, Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, New York: NY, Signet Book from the New American Library (1967) p. 180
By the time of the disintegration of the Soviet Union, Marxist theoreticians had begun to evaluate fascism in a totally unanticipated fashion . . . More than that, as Marxist theorists were compelled to reinterpret fascism in the light of empirical evidence and political circumstances, the fundamental affinities shared by Marxist and fascist regimes became apparent.
A. James Gregor, "The Faces of Janus: Marxism and Fascism in the Twentieth Century", Yale University Press (2000) p. 13
I must confess that I think as most German businessmen do who fear National Socialism as much as they did Communism in 1932… Business friends of mine are convinced that it will be the turn of the ‘white Jews’ (which means us, Aryan businessmen) after the Jews have been expropriated… These Nazi radicals think of nothing except ‘distributing the wealth’… Some businessmen have even started studying Marxist theories, so that they will have a better understanding of the present economic system.
Günter Reimann, The Vampire Economy: Doing Business Under Fascism, Mises Institute (2014) p. 6. Letter from German businessman, first published in 1939.
[B]y the early 1930s, the 'convergence' of fascism and Stalinism struck Marxists and non-Marxists alike.... By the mid-1930s, even Trotsky could insist that 'Stalinism and fascism, in spite of deep difference in social foundations, are symmetrical phenomena'.
Arnold Beichman, “The Surprising Roots of Fascism,” "Policy Review" #102, Hoover Institution (Aug. 1, 2000)
What Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism failed to accomplish, we shall be in a position to achieve.
Adolf Hitler, according to Otto Wagener in Hitler Memoirs of a Confidant, editor, Henry Ashby Turner, Jr., Yale University Press (1985) p. 149.
From the point of view of fundamental human liberties there is little to choose between communism, socialism, and national socialism. They all are examples of the collectivist or totalitarian state … in its essentials not only is completed socialism the same as communism but it hardly differs from fascism.
Ivor Thomas, in The Socialist Tragedy (1951), p. 241.
Russia was the example for fascism... Whether party ‘communists’ like it or not, the fact remains that the state order and rule in Russia are indistinguishable from those in Italy and Germany. Essentially they are alike. One may speak of a red, black, or brown ‘soviet state’, as well as of red, black or brown fascism.
Otto Rühle, “The Struggle Against Fascism Begins with the Struggle Against Bolshevism,” the American Councillist journal Living Marxism, (1939) Vol. 4, No. 8.
‘Nazis despotism’ [is] an equally hateful though more efficient form of the communist despotism.
Winston Churchill, “Excerpts from Churchill’s Manchester Speech,” The New York Times (Jan. 28, 1940)
The monstrous evils of the twentieth century have shown us that the greediest money grubbers are gentle doves compared with money-hating wolves like Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler, who in less than three decades killed or maimed nearly a hundred million men, women, and children and brought untold suffering to a large portion of mankind.
Eric Hoffer, In Our Time (1976) "Money," p. 37
Yet it is clear that both systems, the [Nazi] German and the [Soviet] Russian, must be considered from an economic point of view as socialist… Socialism is and has always been considered a system of economic organization of society. It is the system under which the government has full control of production and distribution. As far as socialism existing merely within individual countries can be called genuine, both Russia and Germany are right in calling their systems socialist.
Ludwig von Mises, Omnipotent Government: The Rise of the Total State and the Total War, Mises Institute (2010) p. 178. First published in 1944 by Yale University Press.
Fascism was the shadow or ugly child of communism . . . As Fascism sprang from Communism, so Nazism developed from Fascism. Thus were set on foot those kindred movements which were destined soon to plunge the world into more hideous strife, which none can say has ended with their destruction.
Winston Churchill, The Second World War, Volume 1, The Gathering Storm, Mariner Books (1985) pp. 13-14. First published in 1948.


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Ben Reilly wrote:Tommy, the take-away from the Third Reich was white supremacy, which is an idea you believe in, right?

Why are you so eager to pin white supremacy on people you hate for preaching tolerance and the value of diversity?

Tommy Monk wrote:But Nazis were allied with non white Muslims and non white Japanese...


Did the Nazis invade any non white country...!!!???


Or was it just white countries that they fought against...!!!???

Tommy Monk wrote:Yes!!!

That definitely shut you up though, didn't it!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:But Nazis were allied with non white Muslims and non white Japanese...


Did the Nazis invade any non white country...!!!???


Or was it just white countries that they fought against...!!!???

Thorin wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:But Nazis were allied with non white Muslims and non white Japanese...


Did the Nazis invade any non white country...!!!???


Or was it just white countries that they fought against...!!!???

Only just noticed this drivel

Yet again even more embarrassing to read such revisionist drive.

For a start, the Arabs are classed as Caucasian and thus under the white racial classification and Hitler made pacts with them, because he wanted to use them to undermine and cause the collapse of the British Empire in the Middle East. Hitler saw Ayrans, as in Germans, the Master race and even bestowed onto the Japanese, some Jews, the Arabs and Finnish the title of honorary Aryans. This however did not stop them suffering discrimination. Even Japanese suffered from racial discrimination within Nazi Germany under their racial laws. There was calls to exempt the Japanese, but even though publicly this was declared, Cases would be looked at individual. What then happened is Germany continued to favour its own people.

So to ignore White Supremacy Nazi ideology is as dumb as it gets, to then even worse fail to understand. That even with those that Germany allied with, was done so more so to be in their benefit. Where as seen in reality, all Non Germans, were treated as inferior, based on different levels. Where Germans were seen as the master race. To invoke who and who was not attacked, is so poor an argument. That it fails to understand the concept behind the Nazi Aryan Race.

Tommy Monk wrote:

Thorin wrote:


Only just noticed this drivel

Yet again even more embarrassing to read such revisionist drive.

For a start, the Arabs are classed as Caucasian and thus under the white racial classification and Hitler made pacts with them, because he wanted to use them to undermine and cause the collapse of the British Empire in the Middle East. Hitler saw Ayrans, as in Germans, the Master race and even bestowed onto the Japanese, some Jews, the Arabs and Finnish the title of honorary Aryans. This however did not stop them suffering discrimination. Even Japanese suffered from racial discrimination within Nazi Germany under their racial laws. There was calls to exempt the Japanese, but even though publicly this was declared, Cases would be looked at individual. What then happened is Germany continued to favour its own people.

So to ignore White Supremacy Nazi ideology is as dumb as it gets, to then even worse fail to understand. That even with those that Germany allied with, was done so more so to be in their benefit. Where as seen in reality, all Non Germans, were treated as inferior, based on different levels. Where Germans were seen as the master race. To invoke who and who was not attacked, is so poor an argument. That it fails to understand the concept behind the Nazi Aryan Race.

Really Didge...!?

Thorin wrote:Is Tommy even aware that Hitler did not class Jews, Slavs etc as white and thus inferior?

So embarrassing the shit this boy keeps coming out with.

Nazism was white Supremacy.

Night everyone

Tommy Monk wrote:

Thorin wrote:Is Tommy even aware that Hitler did not class Jews, Slavs etc as white and thus inferior?

So embarrassing the shit this boy keeps coming out with.

Nazism was white Supremacy.

Night everyone

Tommy Monk wrote:Didge said...

Arabs are classed as Caucasian and thus under the white racial classification and Hitler made pacts with them, because he wanted to use them to undermine and cause the collapse of the British Empire in the Middle East. Hitler saw Ayrans, as in Germans, the Master race and even bestowed onto the Japanese, some Jews, the Arabs and Finnish the title of honorary Aryans.



But before this he said...

Is Tommy even aware that Hitler did not class Jews, Slavs etc as white and thus inferior?

nicko wrote:How many 4 letter or more, words can you make out of Authorotaroanism ? That's a game we used to play years ago. But on checking there's no such word,  it comes up on spellcheck as wrong.
Are you sure Elizel?

Thorin wrote:Is Tommy even aware that Hitler did not class Jews, Slavs etc as white and thus inferior?

So embarrassing the shit this boy keeps coming out with.

Nazism was white Supremacy.

Night everyone

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Poor braindead fucktard Tommy Monk is determined to cement his place as the resident NewsFix alt.right/neo-nazi racist scumbag grub that we've (nearly all..) learnt to recognise him as...

The obvious all-knowing wisdom, deep insights, personal recognition, and supreme modesty bestowed on him through his self-declared "genius"-ness is clearly demonstrated with these erudite explanations in this latest thread..        

Raggamuffin wrote:

Thorin wrote:Is Tommy even aware that Hitler did not class Jews, Slavs etc as white and thus inferior?

So embarrassing the shit this boy keeps coming out with.

Nazism was white Supremacy.

Night everyone

Hitler didn't class them as "Aryan". He wasn't a white supremacist as such, he had beliefs in the superiority of Aryans, and of German Aryans in particular.

Was Hitler a Socialist? Was Hitler a Left-Winger? Was Hitler a Liberal?

Tommy Monk wrote:And the Nazis also only attacked other white nations... while being aligned with non white Muslims and non white Japanese...