one of trumps "victims" felt differently a few weeks back

by The Devil, You Know Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:27 pm

doesn;t sound like a woman who was sexually assaulted does it.

and then another trump accuser has links to the clinton foundation

http://usherald.com/breaking-irrefutable-proof-shows-trump-rape-accused-closely-tied-clinton-foundation/#
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/figures-trump-accuser-nyt-hit-piece-linked-clinton-foundation/
http://100percentfedup.com/breaking-details-emerge-showing-latest-trump-accuser-tied-to-clinton-foundation/
http://usanewsflash.com/busted-fake-trump-accuser-tied-clinton-foundation-caught-lie/

I am not sure why MSM dont at least mention that, maybe they have and we all missed it.

by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:29 pm

Too little, too late - even if it isn't a forgery.

by The Devil, You Know Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:42 pm

and now another one is shown with links to clinton
http://americanlookout.com/jpb-both-women-accusing-trump-of-sexual-assault-over-30-years-ago-are-hillary-clinton-supporters-and-donors/

by The Devil, You Know Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:11 pm

Ziz wrote:Too little, too late - even if it isn't a forgery.

why should it be a forgery?

by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:15 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:Too little, too late - even if it isn't a forgery.
why should it be a forgery?

Why shouldn't it be? This is about power - truth is at a premium.

by The Devil, You Know Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:28 pm

Ziz wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
why should it be a forgery?

Why shouldn't it be? This is about power - truth is at a premium.

I notice you havent asked if those accusing trump are lying. are things forgeries and lies only that when they show some support for trump?

by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:30 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:

Why shouldn't it be? This is about power - truth is at a premium.
I notice you havent asked if those accusing trump are lying. are things forgeries and lies only that when they show some support for trump?

That's because I don't know if they are lying and nor do I care - politics is about power not truth. If you want morality, ask Jesus.

by The Devil, You Know Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:35 pm

Ziz wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
I notice you havent asked if those accusing trump are lying. are things forgeries and lies only that when they show some support for trump?

That's because I don't if they are lying and nor do I care - politics is about power not truth. If you want morality, ask Jesus.

so you dont care if they are lying, what a truly enlightening statement

by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:55 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:

That's because I don't know if they are lying and nor do I care - politics is about power not truth. If you want morality, ask Jesus.
so you dont care if they are lying, what a truly enlightening statement

Only a fool looks for truth in politics - it is for you to choose what you are.

by magica Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:54 pm

It's pretty obvious where all this has come from. Clinton's party kept them til now to push the voters her way.

I think Trump will win tbh.

by Tommy Monk Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:12 pm

Lefties doing dirty tricks...?

Surely not...!?

by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:15 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

Lefties doing dirty tricks...?

Surely not...!?

You think Climton is a leftie? Laughing

by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:16 pm

magica wrote:It's pretty obvious where all this has come from. Clinton's party kept them til now to push the voters her way.

I think Trump will win tbh.

He could still do it - but it might be safer for him if he didn't - or at least he should be careful round grassy knolls.

by Ben Reilly Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:58 pm

I want a sample of whatever people who think Trump has a chance to win are smoking/huffing/shooting up:

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

by Guest Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:27 am

Ben Reilly wrote:I want a sample of whatever people who think Trump has a chance to win are smoking/huffing/shooting up:

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Brexit shows that anything is possible - dont count chickens until fat ladies sing etc. Sometimes the disenfranchised just need to kick out at something, even it makes no sense to people with sense.

by 'Wolfie Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:33 am

Ziz wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:
Lefties doing dirty tricks...?

Surely not...!?

You think Climton is a leftie?

TOMMY has openly stated before on here, that he considers Hitler and Mussolini to have been
"left wingers" !!!!

Just shows how far to the extreme far right Tommy has positioned himself..

by Ben Reilly Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:14 am

Ziz wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:I want a sample of whatever people who think Trump has a chance to win are smoking/huffing/shooting up:

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Brexit shows that anything is possible - dont count chickens until fat ladies sing etc. Sometimes the disenfranchised just need to kick out at something, even it makes no sense to people with sense.

The problem (I've said this before, and many others as well) is that we don't have enough people who think like Trump does to elect him. Check out the demographics of America and show me how there are enough aging conservative men to elect a president they like.

by Tommy Monk Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:00 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Ziz wrote:

You think Climton is a leftie?

TOMMY has openly stated before on here, that he considers Hitler and Mussolini to have been
"left wingers" !!!!

Just shows how far to the extreme far right Tommy has positioned himself..

Nazis = nationalist SOCIALIST workers party...

The clue is in the name...

by Guest Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:11 pm

National Socialism, German Nationalsozialismus, also called Nazism or Naziism, totalitarian movement led by Adolf Hitler as head of the Nazi Party in Germany. In its intense nationalism, mass appeal, and dictatorial rule, National Socialism shared many elements with Italian fascism. However, Nazism was far more extreme both in its ideas and in its practice. In almost every respect it was an anti-intellectual and atheoretical movement...Nazism is the ideology and practice associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party and Nazi state, as well as other far-right groups.

(Encyclopedia Britannica)

The clue is in having an education. Laughing

by Tommy Monk Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:14 pm

Yawn...

by Guest Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:15 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Ziz wrote:

Brexit shows that anything is possible - dont count chickens until fat ladies sing etc. Sometimes the disenfranchised just need to kick out at something, even it makes no sense to people with sense.

The problem (I've said this before, and many others as well) is that we don't have enough people who think like Trump does to elect him. Check out the demographics of America and show me how there are enough aging conservative men to elect a president they like.

I cannot present such evidence - but you appear to be suggesting that only ageing conservative men are drawn to him - I'm not in a position to know if that is the case or not. Here's hoping that sense will prevail.

by Tommy Monk Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:05 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

TOMMY has openly stated before on here, that he considers Hitler and Mussolini to have been
"left wingers" !!!!

Just shows how far to the extreme far right Tommy has positioned himself..

Nazis = nationalist SOCIALIST workers party...

The clue is in the name...

"I am a socialist..." - Adolf Hitler

“Fundamentally, these new means of political struggle can be traced back to the Marxists... I only needed to adopt and further develop them, and I essentially had what we needed. I just had to continue, with greater resolve, where the Social Democrats had failed ten times over because they insisted on trying to achieve their revolution within the framework of democracy. National Socialism is what Marxism could have been if it had freed itself from its absurd, artificial connection with the democratic system.” - Adolf Hitler to Hermann Raushning in 1935.

And Mussolini was a communist party member...

by Guest Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:11 pm

"We want nothing but peace!."

Adolf Hitler, 1933

Laughing

by Tommy Monk Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:21 pm

Lefties lie...

by Tommy Monk Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:29 pm

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/03/13/leftists_become_incandescent_when_reminded_of_the_socialist_roots_in_nazism_121913.html

https://democraticpeace.wordpress.com/2009/05/23/hitler-was-a-socialist/

https://mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian

https://mises.org/library/nazism-socialism

by Tommy Monk Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:49 pm

https://evilproggies.wordpress.com/tag/dan-hannan/

by eddie Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:07 pm

Getting bored with links instead of opinion.

by 'Wolfie Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:14 pm

HOW ODD...

Every one of Tommy's references is to a,far right wing denialist propaganda source..

Not a reputable or even recognised legitimate source among the whole lot of lies and right-wing waffle.

What a surprise.. Or maybe not... Exclamation

by Tommy Monk Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:29 pm

Yawn...

by Tommy Monk Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:39 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

HOW ODD...

Every one of Tommy's references is to a,far right wing denialist propaganda source..

Not a reputable or even recognised legitimate source among the whole lot of lies and right-wing waffle.

What a surprise.. Or maybe not...

You are a complete idiot!!!

Mises was a Jew who fled from the Nazis during the early part of WW2!!!

How is he a far right denialist propagandist...!!!???

lol!

by Tommy Monk Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:03 pm

eddie wrote:Getting bored with links instead of opinion.

I gave my opinion... the links are supporting evidence.

by veya_victaous Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:50 am

Except none of it is Tommy, just shows that people as dumb as you can post shit online.
Cause Anyone with a brain can see the Policies of the Nazis are Completely Out of line with socialism despite them using as ONE of the words in their NEW unrelated doctrine.
If you actually Read and Understood any of those links you posted you's know that
NATIONALIST SOCIALSIM has nothing to do with normal socialism and it in Line with FACISM or Ultra RIGHT WING doctrine.

as is Obvious in all the Nazi policies toward Corporations that controlled the means of production. VW etc beign given jewish slave labor is a perfect example of this ULTRA Rigth wing policies.

In summary

the fact that 'National Socialism' contains the word Socialism does not make it socialist. the creator choose the name, it is not based on it's content.

'Socialism' is the basic Prinipals of the FRENCH revolution and does not have roots in Communism either. Both Nazis and Communists are Post Socialist theories.

by Irn Bru Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:04 am

Ziz wrote:"We want nothing but peace!."

Adolf Hitler, 1933

That is a corker of a response. Laughing

by Tommy Monk Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:54 am

veya_victaous wrote:Except none of it is Tommy, just shows that people as dumb as you can post shit online.
Cause Anyone with a brain can see the Policies of the Nazis are Completely Out of line with socialism despite them using as ONE of the words in their NEW unrelated doctrine.
If you actually Read and Understood any of those links you posted you's know that
NATIONALIST SOCIALSIM has nothing to do with normal socialism and it in Line with FACISM or Ultra RIGHT WING doctrine.

as is Obvious in all the Nazi policies toward Corporations that controlled the means of production. VW etc beign given jewish slave labor is a perfect example of this ULTRA Rigth wing policies.

In summary

the fact that 'National Socialism' contains the word Socialism does not make it socialist. the creator choose the name, it is not based on it's content.

'Socialism' is the basic Prinipals of the FRENCH revolution and does not have roots in Communism either. Both Nazis and Communists are Post Socialist theories.

So you are saying communism isn't left wing...?

Mussolini was a communist party member!!!

I heard some twat I'm the radio last night saying that because labour here in uk has a growing strand of anti semitism and corbyn is taking it left... she said it has gone so far left that has become far right!!!

lol!

No... it has gone so far left that it is becoming far left!!!

Nazi far left like in fact!!!

by Guest Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:30 pm

My missus is a member of the Co-op - don't make her a grocer. Rolling Eyes

fascism
ˈfaʃɪz(ə)m/Submit
noun
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
synonyms: authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship, despotism, autocracy, absolute rule, Nazism, rightism, militarism; More
(in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practices.
"this is yet another example of health fascism in action"

by Andy Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:55 pm

Let's see what everyone thinks.

Poll here.

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t18284-are-the-nazi-party-extreme-far-right-or-extreme-far-left#348346

by Original Quill Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:24 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:

Why shouldn't it be? This is about power - truth is at a premium.
I notice you havent asked if those accusing trump are lying. are things forgeries and lies only that when they show some support for trump?

Lying is as lying does. Who has the motive to lie? The person working for the interests of the people? Or the fat cat trying to steal from the people?

Trump has tried to bribe two state Attorneys General, engaged in a massive fraud in marketing his pseudo-university, and evaded paying income taxes for some 18-years. Now he is close to paying the piper for his sins...he has a lot of reason to lie.

The women who accuse Trump have no motive to lie. They just want truth to prevail.

by veya_victaous Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:54 pm

Ziz wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:
Ziz wrote:

Brexit shows that anything is possible - dont count chickens until fat ladies sing etc. Sometimes the disenfranchised just need to kick out at something, even it makes no sense to people with sense.

The problem (I've said this before, and many others as well) is that we don't have enough people who think like Trump does to elect him. Check out the demographics of America and show me how there are enough aging conservative men to elect a president they like.

I cannot present such evidence - but you appear to be suggesting that only ageing conservative men are drawn to him - I'm not in a position to know if that is the case or not. Here's hoping that sense will prevail.

Yes much like Brexit which was dominated by old racsits like Tommy and Major.
the difference is Outside of London the UK is basically 'rednecks'.
thus the majority are 'rednecks' so dumb insular policies have a chance.

by veya_victaous Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:19 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:Except none of it is Tommy, just shows that people as dumb as you can post shit online.
Cause Anyone with a brain can see the Policies of the Nazis are Completely Out of line with socialism despite them using as ONE of the words in their NEW unrelated doctrine.
If you actually Read and Understood any of those links you posted you's know that
NATIONALIST SOCIALSIM has nothing to do with normal socialism and it in Line with FACISM or Ultra RIGHT WING doctrine.

as is Obvious in all the Nazi policies toward Corporations that controlled the means of production. VW etc beign given jewish slave labor is a perfect example of this ULTRA Rigth wing policies.

In summary

the fact that 'National Socialism' contains the word Socialism does not make it socialist. the creator choose the name, it is not based on it's content.

'Socialism' is the basic Prinipals of the FRENCH revolution and does not have roots in Communism either. Both Nazis and Communists are Post Socialist theories.

So you are saying communism isn't left wing...?

Mussolini was a communist party member!!!

I heard some twat I'm the radio last night saying that because labour here in uk has a growing strand of anti semitism and corbyn is taking it left... she said it has gone so far left that has become far right!!!

No... it has gone sleep far left that it is becoming far left!!!

Nazi far left like in fact!!!

You are so dumb
Facists are RIGHT wing they are the Most rigth Wing
communism the MOST left wing
Socialism is slight left
capitalism is sligtht right

Mussolini was leader of the National Fascist Party,
Nazis are Facist so it doen't matter what they called themsleves, they are in policy Facists.

I Know You don't understand Which is Why is is Stupid that you vote. you are way too dumb and keep talking about things that YOU JUST NEED TO GO AND LEARN ABOUT from a textbook not a racist blog. this is not a debate YOU are Wrong, You would have failed if you the exam.

by Tommy Monk Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:23 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
Ziz wrote:

I cannot present such evidence - but you appear to be suggesting that only ageing conservative men are drawn to him - I'm not in a position to know if that is the case or not. Here's hoping that sense will prevail.

Yes much like Brexit which was dominated by old racsits like Tommy and Major.
the difference is Outside of London the UK is basically 'rednecks'.
thus the majority are 'rednecks' so dumb insular policies have a chance.

London is full of foreigners and idiot lefties...

It is the 'rednecks' who commute in from outside London every day who actually do most of the work!!!

And the idiot lefties who want to renationalise the railways but vote for the eu who's rules first opened up the railways to private corporations and who's rules prevent any renationalisation ever happening!!!

The idiot lefties moan about the cost of housing/rent and the overcrowding and the rest of public services creaking under the strain of mass immigration... but vote for the eu and more mass immigration!!!

If they were turkeys they would be voting for Christmas!!!

by Raggamuffin Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:02 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Ziz wrote:

I cannot present such evidence - but you appear to be suggesting that only ageing conservative men are drawn to him - I'm not in a position to know if that is the case or not. Here's hoping that sense will prevail.

Yes much like Brexit which was dominated by old racsits like Tommy and Major.
the difference is Outside of London the UK is basically 'rednecks'.
thus the majority are 'rednecks' so dumb insular policies have a chance.

You might want to speak and behave like a yank, but don't try to foist derogatory, racist yank-speak onto this country. We don't have "rednecks".

by Andy Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:21 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:

Yes much like Brexit which was dominated by old racsits like Tommy and Major.
the difference is Outside of London the UK is basically 'rednecks'.
thus the majority are 'rednecks' so dumb insular policies have a chance.

You might want to speak and behave like a yank, but don't try to foist derogatory, racist yank-speak onto this country. We don't have "rednecks".

I dunno. There's a few on here like Tommy and Major making a good attempt.

by veya_victaous Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:38 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
Ziz wrote:

I cannot present such evidence - but you appear to be suggesting that only ageing conservative men are drawn to him - I'm not in a position to know if that is the case or not. Here's hoping that sense will prevail.

Yes much like Brexit which was dominated by old racsits like Tommy and Major.
the difference is Outside of London the UK is basically 'rednecks'.
thus the majority are 'rednecks' so dumb insular policies have a chance.

You might want to speak and behave like a yank, but don't try to foist derogatory, racist yank-speak onto this country. We don't have "rednecks".

You are a redneck
that is the redneck attitude to think your seperate
to think there is any greater validity to you localised dialect.

you're just rednecks without sunburn Rolling Eyes

by eddie Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:00 pm

Rednecks without sunburn hahahahaha sorry that was funny

by Raggamuffin Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:53 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You might want to speak and behave like a yank, but don't try to foist derogatory, racist yank-speak onto this country. We don't have "rednecks".

You are a redneck
that is the redneck attitude to think your seperate
to think there is any greater validity to you localised dialect.

you're just rednecks without sunburn

You're a racist fascist. You're always sticking your beak into other people's business and telling them how to run their lives, whilst advocating that those who don't do what you want should be "removed" or ethnically cleansed.

by Raggamuffin Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:54 am

eddie wrote:Rednecks without sunburn hahahahaha sorry that was funny

by Ben Reilly Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:28 am

Only speaking for my home state, but rednecks often get along with a lot of people not like them these days Smile

There's an apartment complex near me, my dog likes to go there because apparently the rule there is, if you don't want the rest of your food, just toss it on the ground ...

Anyway, this shitty low-rent apartment complex is called, appropriately enough, the Taj Mahal, and it is populated exclusively by black people, rednecks and very serious and goal-oriented Mexican people, and they all get along pretty well. The new taco truck across the street seems to have brought them all together quite beautifully.

by Tommy Monk Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:22 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:

You are a redneck
that is the redneck attitude to think your seperate
to think there is any greater validity to you localised dialect.

you're just rednecks without sunburn

You're a racist fascist. You're always sticking your beak into other people's business and telling them how to run their lives, whilst advocating that those who don't do what you want should be "removed" or ethnically cleansed.

True... not much difference between a leftie and a nazi/fascist it seems...

by nicko Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:07 pm

Veya is a 33 year old child who knows fuck all, only what he reads in the papers. He has no experience of the world outside his own garden. He's been nowhere, done fuck all apart from posting ignorant racist and bigoted remarks.

by Original Quill Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:44 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:

You are a redneck
that is the redneck attitude to think your seperate
to think there is any greater validity to you localised dialect.

you're just rednecks without sunburn

You're a racist fascist. You're always sticking your beak into other people's business and telling them how to run their lives, whilst advocating that those who don't do what you want should be "removed" or ethnically cleansed.

'Scuse us, but that sounds like the English to me...circa 1690 - 1850.

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