Pubic hair - do we dont we?

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:43 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2540819/American-Apparel-stirs-controversy-giving-mannequins-VERY-unkempt-bikini-lines-New-York-storefront.html

Apparently the store is looking to "start a conversation" so I thought I would start a thread.

How do people think the pubic area should look? Bald? Trimmed? Jungle? Does gender make a difference? What do people prefer to wear? Do people feel pressured to wear it differently than they want?

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:47 am

What? So the store wants to 'start a conversation', is that any reason to be mad enough to join in. Who the hell cares and what business is it of anyones.

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:49 am

My sentiments exactly sassy.

I wrote a sentence saying put this thread in the bin sphinx, but then deleted it hoping everybody would ignore it and let it slip off the board.

I hope after reading this that's what will happen.

Just not worthy.

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:56 am

So nobody else is concerned that their children may grow up with distorted ideas of what women and to a lesser extent men look like?

Nobody is concerned that they are showing the exact taboo response that the shop is trying to challenge?

Are we still in the Julia Roberts moment where a beautiful woman can be condemned and rejected because she chooses not to use a razor?

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:12 am

No, I'm not showing any taboo response, I'm saying I'm not interested, my children and grandchildren would not take any notice of anything like that, because they have been brought up to think for themselves and not be swayed by stupid things like that.

PS, they are not trying to challenge it, they are trying to get publicity.

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:23 pm

Sassy wrote:No, I'm not showing any taboo response, I'm saying I'm not interested, my children and grandchildren would not take any notice of anything like that, because they have been brought up to think for themselves and not be swayed by stupid things like that.

PS, they are not trying to challenge it, they are trying to get publicity.

So you are totally confident that your grandchildren are growing up untouched by the total immersion in media giving the message hair is bad shaving is beautiful? You know this because you talk to them about it?

Of course they are trying to get publicity - they are getting it by challenging ingrained preconceptions. If their mannequins had the usual bald look would anyone have noticed? Why people notice when mannequins have a more natural appearance? And why are people so reluctant to talk about it? We talk about fashions in head hair - we talk about what people do with their underarm hair (normally to object to those who dont shave it off) what is wrong with talking about fashions in pubic hair?

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:45 pm

They are not untouched by it, they have looked at it, discussed it, and consigned it to the right place - the dustbin. Of course I talk to them about absolutely anything. Why wouldn't I, I don't have hang ups about anything, bodywise or sex wise. My grandson consulted me about what to do when he had a tight foreskin. We all have bodies, they are a tool to be used to enjoy our lives with, and they know to tell people go jump in the lake if they try to pressure them about the way they look. I've heard my grandaughter advising other girls lol

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:51 pm

Thats brilliant. Unfortunately I know lots and lots of young people simply dont have that support or access to knowledge. There are both girls and boys growing up thinking there is something disgusting about body hair and I think that is worrying - especially when it results in them feeling pressure to shave or that they are not normal because they have it.

Although this shop is just trying to attract attention surely anything that makes young people aware that hair is normal cannot be a bad thing?

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:03 pm

You know if it were not for businesses and corporations trying to manipulate public opinion so they can sell products it would be perfectly normal for women to have hairy legs.

by Beekeeper Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:23 pm

WhoTheFuck is that unknown store "American Apparel" ???

And, WHY should anyone give a stuff what they do for headlines ?

Seems like the Daily Mail is giving advertorial space to some unknown entity ?

scratch

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:32 pm

краљица од Хартс wrote:You know if it were not for businesses and corporations trying to manipulate public opinion so they can sell products it would be perfectly normal for women to have hairy legs.

I must admit there is a campaign on in the UK at the moment that is driving me mad. I think it is vagisil - all I know is you will get an advert for a special feminine intimate area wash to cope with odour in the "intimate" area then in the following advert break there will be the same company advertising a cream to cope with itching in the "intimate" area. Now 3 guesses what a major cause of itching in the intimate area is? Evil or Very Mad

by Original Quill Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:47 pm

Must admit, I've heard shaving underarms and legs being discussed in the past. Why not other areas?

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:52 pm

Original Quill wrote:Must admit, I've heard shaving underarms and legs being discussed in the past. Why not other areas?

I think it is important to discuss it.

by Ben Reilly Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:05 pm

American Apparel is the go-to place for your hipster needs! If you don't have a trendy thrift store nearby, that is.

Pubic hair - do we dont we? Hipster

Bomb them from orbit, bury them in concrete and salt the earth!

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:06 pm

sphinx wrote:So nobody else is concerned that their children may grow up with distorted ideas of what women and to a lesser extent men look like?

I see porn as a key disseminator (sp?) of the notion pubic hair is ugly. I don't supppose the shop will be challenging it.

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:45 pm

lovedust wrote:
sphinx wrote:So nobody else is concerned that their children may grow up with distorted ideas of what women and to a lesser extent men look like?

I see porn as a key disseminator (sp?) of the notion pubic hair is ugly. I don't supppose the shop will be challenging it.

I dont know - if they have got people talking, which they have, then is that not a challenge in itself?

by Ben Reilly Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:36 pm

lovedust wrote:I see porn as a key disseminator

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by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:36 pm

Original Quill wrote:Must admit, I've heard shaving underarms and legs being discussed in the past. Why not other areas?

What is there to discuss?
You either keep the area tidy or keep it clean-shaven.
Not much to discuss really.

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:37 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:American Apparel is the go-to place for your hipster needs! If you don't have a trendy thrift store nearby, that is.

Absolutely disgusting.

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:40 pm

краљица од Хартс wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:American Apparel is the go-to place for your hipster needs! If you don't have a trendy thrift store nearby, that is.

Absolutely disgusting.

The outfits are not that bad Queen

by Original Quill Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:41 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
lovedust wrote:I see porn as a key disseminator

://?roflmao?/:
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Well,

Pubic hair - do we dont we? 1146269-Clipart-Of-A-Pondering-Yellow-Emoticon-Royalty-Free-Vector-Illustration

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:42 pm

sphinx wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2540819/American-Apparel-stirs-controversy-giving-mannequins-VERY-unkempt-bikini-lines-New-York-storefront.html

Apparently the store is looking to "start a conversation" so I thought I would start a thread.

How do people think the pubic area should look? Bald? Trimmed? Jungle? Does gender make a difference? What do people prefer to wear? Do people feel pressured to wear it differently than they want?

....a bit uncomfortable, even for me. Shocked

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:44 pm

краљица од Хартс wrote:
Original Quill wrote:Must admit, I've heard shaving underarms and legs being discussed in the past. Why not other areas?

What is there to discuss?
You either keep the area tidy or keep it clean-shaven.
Not much to discuss really.

How about young people thinking there is something wrong with them because they have hair because everything they see leads them to believe hair is wrong?

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:45 pm

Joy Division wrote:
sphinx wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2540819/American-Apparel-stirs-controversy-giving-mannequins-VERY-unkempt-bikini-lines-New-York-storefront.html

Apparently the store is looking to "start a conversation" so I thought I would start a thread.

How do people think the pubic area should look? Bald? Trimmed? Jungle? Does gender make a difference? What do people prefer to wear? Do people feel pressured to wear it differently than they want?

....a bit uncomfortable, even for me.

Would that be because you are unable to contemplate the subject without thinking it only associates with sex?

by Ben Reilly Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:46 pm

Ugh. I feel that 99 percent of what people communicate on the Internet these days is basically ::attn::

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:47 pm

Does pubic hair have a purpose? Pubic hair - do we dont we? Smile116

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:48 pm

sphinx wrote:
Joy Division wrote:

....a bit uncomfortable, even for me.

Would that be because you are unable to contemplate the subject without thinking it only associates with sex?

Erm, no...more like because it is the genital area we also use that area to pee with.

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:49 pm

sphinx wrote:
краљица од Хартс wrote:

What is there to discuss?
You either keep the area tidy or keep it clean-shaven.
Not much to discuss really.

How about young people thinking there is something wrong with them because they have hair because everything they see leads them to believe hair is wrong?

You make a valid point Sphinx
Im enjoying this thread tremendously. Posters f and Jeff at each other all day long,
say the vilest things and post horrible avatars and videos.
But one mention of a pube and they go all unnecessary.
://?roflmao?/:

by Original Quill Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:50 pm

@ FTL...I think when god started, he thought man would be stupid and wouldn't be able to find it.

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:51 pm

Original Quill wrote:I think when god started, he thought man would be stupid and wouldn't be able to find it.

and again

Brilliant :D x

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:57 pm

feelthelove wrote:Does pubic hair have a purpose?

Actually yes it does - it has a infection prevention function (some rather arcane research done decades ago compared post birth infection rates in women who had been shaved and who hadnt (they expected to find those unshaven got more infections because they thought it dirty)
and found those shaved had much higher infection levels - hence why women are no longer routinely shaved for giving birth.

Also it has a function in the spreading of pheremones - the vulva area is self cleaning and does not need soaps etc, it produces natural scents that we do not detect consciously but are never the less important and the pubic hair has a function spreading these.

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:58 pm

NemsAgain wrote:
sphinx wrote:

How about young people thinking there is something wrong with them because they have hair because everything they see leads them to believe hair is wrong?

You make a valid point Sphinx
Im enjoying this thread tremendously. Posters f and Jeff at each other all day long,
say the vilest things and post horrible avatars and videos.
But one mention of a pube and they go all unnecessary.
://?roflmao?/:

Well at least its not politics lol!

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:22 pm

sphinx wrote:
NemsAgain wrote:

You make a valid point Sphinx
Im enjoying this thread tremendously. Posters f and Jeff at each other all day long,
say the vilest things and post horrible avatars and videos.
But one mention of a pube and they go all unnecessary.
://?roflmao?/:

Well at least its not politics

Hahahaha! True!

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:24 pm

Pubic hair is very serious fucking business.

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:08 pm

feelthelove wrote:Does pubic hair have a purpose?

Fly screen.......

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:20 pm

grumpy old git wrote:
feelthelove wrote:Does pubic hair have a purpose?

Fly screen.......

://?roflmao?/:

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:22 pm

The purpose of hair is to keep us warm?, as well as the eyebrows diverting rain water for our eyes? Wink

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:27 pm

Of course pubic hair has a purpose, underarm hair has a purpose, the body evolves to loose things that don't have a purpose. We are got at all the time, to be thin, to be beautiful, to have tits, not to have tits, to smell like this or that. The point is keeping the pressure in perspective and recognising that it is all to do with selling products, slimming products, shaving gel, stuff for getting rid of smells we are supposed to have and that gives off signals. Talk about the whole pressure from the media, don't focus on pubic hair FGS, it's just part of a bigger picture.

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:28 pm

Joy Division wrote:The purpose of hair is to keep us warm?, as well as the eyebrows diverting rain water for our eyes?

Dont forget germ control like nose hairs.

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:31 pm

Sassy wrote:Of course pubic hair has a purpose, underarm hair has a purpose, the body evolves to loose things that don't have a purpose. We are got at all the time, to be thin, to be beautiful, to have tits, not to have tits, to smell like this or that. The point is keeping the pressure in perspective and recognising that it is all to do with selling products, slimming products, shaving gel, stuff for getting rid of smells we are supposed to have and that gives off signals. Talk about the whole pressure from the media, don't focus on pubic hair FGS, it's just part of a bigger picture.

But people dont mind talking about the rest of the picture just this bit - people will happily debate whether antiperspirants have side effects, rashes caused by cleaning wipes, the effect of hair dye, the pros and cons of plastic surgery but mention pubic and suddenly everyone is like "dont talk about that its not nice"

Why isnt it nice?

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:34 pm

Did I say that? I don't care whether I talk about pubic hair, or penises, or vaginas, or arseholes. I think that they used pubic hair as shock value for advertising basically, and why anyone would want to fall into that trap I have no idea.

And with all the things that are going on in the world, I simply don't think that whether people cut or trim or shave or have a brazilian for their pubic hair has any importance at all.

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:40 pm

sphinx wrote:
Sassy wrote:Of course pubic hair has a purpose, underarm hair has a purpose, the body evolves to loose things that don't have a purpose. We are got at all the time, to be thin, to be beautiful, to have tits, not to have tits, to smell like this or that. The point is keeping the pressure in perspective and recognising that it is all to do with selling products, slimming products, shaving gel, stuff for getting rid of smells we are supposed to have and that gives off signals. Talk about the whole pressure from the media, don't focus on pubic hair FGS, it's just part of a bigger picture.

But people dont mind talking about the rest of the picture just this bit - people will happily debate whether antiperspirants have side effects, rashes caused by cleaning wipes, the effect of hair dye, the pros and cons of plastic surgery but mention pubic and suddenly everyone is like "dont talk about that its not nice"

Why isnt it nice?

I dont know Sphinx, but you are certainly right about people's attitudes.
I think what LD said is valid too the porn industry is blamed for the demise of the pube!

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:54 pm

NemsAgain wrote:
sphinx wrote:

But people dont mind talking about the rest of the picture just this bit - people will happily debate whether antiperspirants have side effects, rashes caused by cleaning wipes, the effect of hair dye, the pros and cons of plastic surgery but mention pubic and suddenly everyone is like "dont talk about that its not nice"

Why isnt it nice?
I dont know Sphinx, but you are certainly right about people's attitudes.
I think what LD said is valid too the porn industry is blamed for the demise of the pube!

Just dig out an edition of the original Joy of Sex and see todays youngsters go green with horror at the amount of hair everywhere ://?roflmao?/:

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:07 pm

sphinx wrote:
NemsAgain wrote:
I dont know Sphinx, but you are certainly right about people's attitudes.
I think what LD said is valid too the porn industry is blamed for the demise of the pube!

Just dig out an edition of the original Joy of Sex and see todays youngsters go green with horror at the amount of hair everywhere ://?roflmao?/:

Hahahaha! You're right!

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:08 pm

OH dear...old grumpy here has an urge to lower the tone of this thread mightily, but is scared that mine host will slap his legs ://?roflmao?/:

BUT .....

firstly...Do i LOOK like a ruddy moth....no?.....well I aint munching no rug.......
secondly...do i LOOK like a cat...no?......well just what makes you think i want to hack up a hairball???

awaits slapping.........

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:09 pm

grumpy old git wrote:OH dear...old grumpy here has an urge to lower the tone of this thread mightily, but is scared that mine host will slap his legs ://?roflmao?/:

BUT .....

firstly...Do i LOOK like a ruddy moth....no?.....well I aint munching no rug.......
secondly...do i LOOK like a cat...no?......well just what makes you think i want to hack up a hairball???

awaits slapping.........

You are naughty!

by Ben Reilly Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:10 pm

I believe it was the Buddha who stated that no hair makes it look like your last partner was into kids, while too much hair makes you look like you were raised by wolves.

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:13 pm

grumpy old git wrote:OH dear...old grumpy here has an urge to lower the tone of this thread mightily, but is scared that mine host will slap his legs ://?roflmao?/:

BUT .....

firstly...Do i LOOK like a ruddy moth....no?.....well I aint munching no rug.......
secondly...do i LOOK like a cat...no?......well just what makes you think i want to hack up a hairball???

awaits slapping.........

No not at all.

I am not saying there are not personal reasons for going hairless because there are - and I am not a fan of fully rampant natural either. I just think it is something people should be able to talk about because it is wrong to have everything always represented as one state of being when that is not the case.

Why should young women feel they have no choice but to go bald or they are unattractive? Why are young men set to believe that women should be bald or there is something wrong with them?

There is a whole range of pubic style - personally I am not keen on either end - so why only ever have one end represented?

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:14 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:I believe it was the Buddha who stated that no hair makes it look like your last partner was into kids, while too much hair makes you look like you were raised by wolves.

Brilliant!!

by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:22 pm

sphinx wrote:
grumpy old git wrote:OH dear...old grumpy here has an urge to lower the tone of this thread mightily, but is scared that mine host will slap his legs ://?roflmao?/:

BUT .....

firstly...Do i LOOK like a ruddy moth....no?.....well I aint munching no rug.......
secondly...do i LOOK like a cat...no?......well just what makes you think i want to hack up a hairball???

awaits slapping.........

No not at all.

I am not saying there are not personal reasons for going hairless because there are - and I am not a fan of fully rampant natural either. I just think it is something people should be able to talk about because it is wrong to have everything always represented as one state of being when that is not the case.

Why should young women feel they have no choice but to go bald or they are unattractive? Why are young men set to believe that women should be bald or there is something wrong with them?

There is a whole range of pubic style - personally I am not keen on either end - so why only ever have one end represented?

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