Islamic terrorism why there is none in Japan

Muslim terrorists can be proud: their share in world terrorist attacks is now close to 100%.

Seems there is not a single country where Muslims would not show their true colors… But no! There is such a country. It’s one of the most developed countries on Earth, and its democratic nature is recognized worldwide, a true ally of the USA and a member of NATO. However, with all this, there was not a single terrorist attack perpetrated by Muslims in this country. Moreover, there was not a single, even minor, riot, disturbance or protest, no matter how many citizens of this country support cartoons of the prophet Muhammad published in some Danish newspaper or in a French magazine.

The name of this lucky country is Japan.

Of course, Japan achieved this by some super effective integration policy, through using the most advanced technologies and assigning billions of yen on the building of thousands of mosques and Islamic schools all over Japan, banning pork in all public places, introducing separate hours for boys and girls in swimming pools in all public schools, and Japanese male doctors do not dare touch their female patients, Muslim women get immense social aid each time they have a child, Shari´a courts were introduced in the judicial system of Japan, and the Koran is considered a Holy Book in Japan….....


No, nothing of the kind. What Japan did to avoid problems related to Muslims was much simpler and cheaper; Japan is practically closed to Muslims.

Officially, immigration to Japan is not closed to Muslims. But the number of the immigration permits given to the applicants from Islamic countries is very low. Obtaining a working visa is not easy for adepts of Islam, even if they are physicians, engineers and managers sent by foreign companies that are active in the region. As a result, Japan is “a country without Muslims”.

There is no reliable estimate on the Japanese Muslim population. However, claims of thirty thousand made by some researchers are without doubt an exaggeration. Some claim that there are only a few hundred. This probably amounts to the number of Muslims openly practicing Islam. Asked to give an estimate on the actual number of Muslims in Japan, the ex-president of the Japan Islamic Association Abu Bakr Morimoto replied, “To say frankly, only one thousand. In the broadest sense, I mean, if we do not exclude those who became Muslims for the sake of, say marriage, and do not practice then the number would be a few thousand.”


Read the whole article here: http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2015/04/14/islamic-terrorism-why-there-is-none-in-japan/

eddie wrote:Muslim terrorists can be proud: their share in world terrorist attacks is now close to 100%.

Seems there is not a single country where Muslims would not show their true colors… But no! There is such a country. It’s one of the most developed countries on Earth, and its democratic nature is recognized worldwide, a true ally of the USA and a member of NATO. However, with all this, there was not a single terrorist attack perpetrated by Muslims in this country. Moreover, there was not a single, even minor, riot, disturbance or protest, no matter how many citizens of this country support cartoons of the prophet Muhammad published in some Danish newspaper or in a French magazine.

The name of this lucky country is Japan.

Of course, Japan achieved this by some super effective integration policy, through using the most advanced technologies and assigning billions of yen on the building of thousands of mosques and Islamic schools all over Japan, banning pork in all public places, introducing separate hours for boys and girls in swimming pools in all public schools, and Japanese male doctors do not dare touch their female patients, Muslim women get immense social aid each time they have a child, Shari´a courts were introduced in the judicial system of Japan, and the Koran is considered a Holy Book in Japan….....


No, nothing of the kind. What Japan did to avoid problems related to Muslims was much simpler and cheaper; Japan is practically closed to Muslims.

Officially, immigration to Japan is not closed to Muslims. But the number of the immigration permits given to the applicants from Islamic countries is very low. Obtaining a working visa is not easy for adepts of Islam, even if they are physicians, engineers and managers sent by foreign companies that are active in the region. As a result, Japan is “a country without Muslims”.

There is no reliable estimate on the Japanese Muslim population. However, claims of thirty thousand made by some researchers are without doubt an exaggeration. Some claim that there are only a few hundred. This probably amounts to the number of Muslims openly practicing Islam. Asked to give an estimate on the actual number of Muslims in Japan, the ex-president of the Japan Islamic Association Abu Bakr Morimoto replied, “To say frankly, only one thousand. In the broadest sense, I mean, if we do not exclude those who became Muslims for the sake of, say marriage, and do not practice then the number would be a few thousand.”


Read the whole article here: http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2015/04/14/islamic-terrorism-why-there-is-none-in-japan/

Good morning Eddie.

So this is a straight forward good example to every government in the world.And if only it was like that here in the UK.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if we didn't have to have that constant feeling in the back of our mind of a Muslim inspired atrocity being carried out here?

Well there was a sarin atack on the Japanese public on the Tokyo subway a few years back by an extreme group that wiped out a few people.
If you are a foreigner in Japan don't ever get into trouble with the law. Their justice system won't favour you even if you are innocent and the human rights record is nothing to be proud of either.

The last UN report isn't exactly a pat on the back.

http://docstore.ohchr.org/SelfServices/FilesHandler.ashx?enc=6QkG1d%2fPPRiCAqhKb7yhskWEDuvHC0lMabuZ0OD1HY0SfxlfB1VeioXttAzGv30U0Rk%2bkdMAGVYyItJ663GQIU8ZU21%2fekVAPTf2ZAumBFk85L1A40eImOOroiINleYo

Irn Bru wrote:Well there was a sarin atack on the Japanese public on the Tokyo subway a few years back by an extreme group that wiped out a few people.
If you are a foreigner in Japan don't ever get into trouble with the law. Their justice system won't favour you even if you are innocent and the human rights record is nothing to be proud of either.

The last UN report isn't exactly a pat on the back.

http://docstore.ohchr.org/SelfServices/FilesHandler.ashx?enc=6QkG1d%2fPPRiCAqhKb7yhskWEDuvHC0lMabuZ0OD1HY0SfxlfB1VeioXttAzGv30U0Rk%2bkdMAGVYyItJ663GQIU8ZU21%2fekVAPTf2ZAumBFk85L1A40eImOOroiINleYo

But they haven't got Muslims taking over their country & changing their way of life.....or trying to bomb them.

Irn Bru wrote:Well there was a sarin atack on the Japanese public on the Tokyo subway a few years back by an extreme group that wiped out a few people.
If you are a foreigner in Japan don't ever get into trouble with the law. Their justice system won't favour you even if you are innocent and the human rights record is nothing to be proud of either.

The last UN report isn't exactly a pat on the back.

http://docstore.ohchr.org/SelfServices/FilesHandler.ashx?enc=6QkG1d%2fPPRiCAqhKb7yhskWEDuvHC0lMabuZ0OD1HY0SfxlfB1VeioXttAzGv30U0Rk%2bkdMAGVYyItJ663GQIU8ZU21%2fekVAPTf2ZAumBFk85L1A40eImOOroiINleYo

Yes an attack but by and large they are as safe as they can be.
Tell you what Irn, instead of finding reasons why it's not a good idea, find a reason why there is a good idea to be stricter about who and what, we a,low in our country.

eddie wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:Well there was a sarin atack on the Japanese public on the Tokyo subway a few years back by an extreme group that wiped out a few people.
If you are a foreigner in Japan don't ever get into trouble with the law. Their justice system won't favour you even if you are innocent and the human rights record is nothing to be proud of either.

The last UN report isn't exactly a pat on the back.

http://docstore.ohchr.org/SelfServices/FilesHandler.ashx?enc=6QkG1d%2fPPRiCAqhKb7yhskWEDuvHC0lMabuZ0OD1HY0SfxlfB1VeioXttAzGv30U0Rk%2bkdMAGVYyItJ663GQIU8ZU21%2fekVAPTf2ZAumBFk85L1A40eImOOroiINleYo

Yes an attack but by and large they are as safe as they can be.
Tell you what Irn, instead of finding reasons why it's not a good idea, find a reason why there is a good idea to be stricter about who and what, we a,low in our country.

For Irn Bru to find a reason a reason for this to be a good idea is impossible,because he isn't broad minded enough.In fact,it would be a miracle.

Sorry to burst your security bubble but Japan does allow Muslims to immigrate, have built mosques, have restaurants that serve halal food, and even the indigenous Japanese have reverted to Islam. Muslims can even become Japanese citizens.

But if such myths make you feel safe, good luck to you. But there may be another reason why Japan hasn't suffered a terrorist attack from so called Muslim extremists.

And what would that be?

eddie wrote:
Muslim terrorists can be proud: their share in world terrorist attacks is now close to 100%.

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THERE is far more non-Islamist terrorist activity still going on around the globe than certain special interest groups like to claim ~ certainly more than the mere 1 or 2% portrayed by the RW-extremist warmongering Zionist-controlled Western Press and US Movie studios and TV networks.. (THE 2nd-biggest terrorist-attack on US home soil was from home-grown NON-Islamic terrorist interests (i.e. Timothy McVeigh) - and that's without even considering the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeldt efforts..).

AS FOR Japan, they have enough troubles of their own, without importing any foreign terrorists :
Home grown terrorist groups DO exist in Japan;
Japan's economy has been in a depressive state since the 1980's ~ and they have still managed to have the third largest single economy in the world;
ALONG with Russia, Japan has the long-term problem of a shrinking population ~ both those countries have around 20 million or more LESS people than they had at the beginning of WWII [Maybe one day those two will consider merging their two nations ~ Russia already has a large Asian population in their Eastern territories..].

nicko wrote:And what would that be?

Perhaps becuase Japan have no historical baggage in the Middle East or are not currently trying to steal their resources. In fact Japanese are respected for the humanitarian work and support for Palestine.

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And you are right Zack, they are very keen on supporting Palestine.

Zack has a point Eds. Europe and America in particular have bad history with Muslim populations in general- be it historically recent suppression during the empire or really recent bombing campaigns all over the Middle East.

Of course people will cite Russia, China, Thailand and elsewhere as other areas where Muslims cause problems- but these attacks are as much motivated by secessionist movements as religion (even if the actually method or terror is more accurately down to the faith). The point being that national and cultural identity is the politics behind violence in those and other places.

Japan has no historical dominions which include Muslims (as is the case in the 3 previously mentioned countries) nor does Japan have a history of treating Muslims violently (in fact it has little history with Muslim at all). So why should it suffer attacks as others do?

A Jewish source in fairness is the absolute last place you can expect a balanced article on the matter to be fair. Though I don't argue Islam as a faith isn't a problem (all faiths are, that one particularly so), using Japan as an example of how we should treat Muslims is false logic, and as Zack says, they aren't even closed to Muslims.

Calm down everyone! I didn't write it, or even say I supported it or believed it!
I just found it interesting and I don't care where a source comes from because I'm not as suspicious as you lot - I take things as they are.

But I will say, Japan don't seem to be under as much threat, whatever the reason.

Ps: just because someone posts a story up doesn't mean they feel one way or the other? I never even gave an opinion on the actual article. I just found it to be a good topic of debate.

Fuzzy Zack wrote:Sorry to burst your security bubble but Japan does allow Muslims to immigrate, have built mosques, have restaurants that serve halal food, and even the indigenous Japanese have reverted to Islam. Muslims can even become Japanese citizens.

But if such myths make you feel safe, good luck to you. But there may be another reason why Japan hasn't suffered a terrorist attack from so called Muslim extremists.

I don't have any bubbles to burst Zack.
You, however seem to have a whole load of chips on your shoulder.

Japan doesn't appear to be very anti-Muslim at all, having had Muslims for more than 100 years at least:

The number of Muslims in Japan grew rapidly in the mid-1980 during the bubble economy. At that time young men from Muslim countries including Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Iran came to Japan and worked in small businesses or factories which experienced labor shortages. But when the controversy over illegal foreign workers began, the Japanese government halted entry on short-term visits without a visa for citizens of Pakistan, Bangladesh and Iran. Following the collapse of the bubble economy in 1990, a number of Muslims acquired resident status and some obtained legal residence in Japan by marrying Japanese women. There is no accurate record of the religious affiliation of foreign residents in Japan, but we can estimate the approximate number of Muslims from the native countries of foreigners. Keiko Sakurai calculated the number of Muslims in Japan in 2000 to be 63,552 (Nihon no Muslim Shakai (Muslim society in Japan) Chikuma shinsho, 2003). Now many of them have families. They live and work with Japanese and send their children to Japanese schools. With the passage of time, they began to construct their lives as Muslims. Japanese can see the ‘real Muslims lives’ before their eyes in Japan today. Against the world-wide negative media campaign against Muslims and Islam, it is useful for Japanese to take the opportunity to understand the Muslims in their midst.

http://www.japanfocus.org/-kawakami-yasunori/2436#sthash.4FOVJMP9.dpuf

Today it appears the Muslim population of Japan is around 100,000 and the reason it doesn't have many Muslims immigrating is because of economic policy.

eddie wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:Well there was a sarin atack on the Japanese public on the Tokyo subway a few years back by an extreme group that wiped out a few people.
If you are a foreigner in Japan don't ever get into trouble with the law. Their justice system won't favour you even if you are innocent and the human rights record is nothing to be proud of either.

The last UN report isn't exactly a pat on the back.

http://docstore.ohchr.org/SelfServices/FilesHandler.ashx?enc=6QkG1d%2fPPRiCAqhKb7yhskWEDuvHC0lMabuZ0OD1HY0SfxlfB1VeioXttAzGv30U0Rk%2bkdMAGVYyItJ663GQIU8ZU21%2fekVAPTf2ZAumBFk85L1A40eImOOroiINleYo

Yes an attack but by and large they are as safe as they can be.
Tell you what Irn, instead of finding reasons why it's not a good idea, find a reason why there is a good idea to be stricter about who and what, we a,low in our country.

I've been to Japan a few times and it's fair to say that stick a uniform on some of them and they become screaming banshee warriors. Read that UN report and see what I mean.
Try going down the British Legion or remember the Burma Star and tell them how wonderful the Japanese are.
I'm not sure what you mean by good idea but whatever it is I don't and never have supported importing extremists of any sort into this country and I doubt anyone with any common sense would.

eddie wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:Sorry to burst your security bubble but Japan does allow Muslims to immigrate, have built mosques, have restaurants that serve halal food, and even the indigenous Japanese have reverted to Islam. Muslims can even become Japanese citizens.

But if such myths make you feel safe, good luck to you. But there may be another reason why Japan hasn't suffered a terrorist attack from so called Muslim extremists.

I don't have any bubbles to burst Zack.
You, however seem to have a whole load of chips on your shoulder.

So when people point out facts to you they have a chip on their shoulder?  How very unbiased of you.

Ben_Reilly wrote:Japan doesn't appear to be very anti-Muslim at all, having had Muslims for more than 100 years at least:

The number of Muslims in Japan grew rapidly in the mid-1980 during the bubble economy. At that time young men from Muslim countries including Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Iran came to Japan and worked in small businesses or factories which experienced labor shortages. But when the controversy over illegal foreign workers began, the Japanese government halted entry on short-term visits without a visa for citizens of Pakistan, Bangladesh and Iran. Following the collapse of the bubble economy in 1990, a number of Muslims acquired resident status and some obtained legal residence in Japan by marrying Japanese women. There is no accurate record of the religious affiliation of foreign residents in Japan, but we can estimate the approximate number of Muslims from the native countries of foreigners. Keiko Sakurai calculated the number of Muslims in Japan in 2000 to be 63,552 (Nihon no Muslim Shakai (Muslim society in Japan) Chikuma shinsho, 2003). Now many of them have families. They live and work with Japanese and send their children to Japanese schools. With the passage of time, they began to construct their lives as Muslims. Japanese can see the ‘real Muslims lives’ before their eyes in Japan today. Against the world-wide negative media campaign against Muslims and Islam, it is useful for Japanese to take the opportunity to understand the Muslims in their midst.

http://www.japanfocus.org/-kawakami-yasunori/2436#sthash.4FOVJMP9.dpuf

Today it appears the Muslim population of Japan is around 100,000 and the reason it doesn't have many Muslims immigrating is because of economic policy.

And of course they never really got as far as Pakistan or the other Islamic or African countries we tend to associate with bombings etc. to colonise them in much the same way we did.

Eilzel wrote:Zack has a point Eds. Europe and America in particular have bad history with Muslim populations in general- be it historically recent suppression during the empire or really recent bombing campaigns all over the Middle East.

Of course people will cite Russia, China, Thailand and elsewhere as other areas where Muslims cause problems- but these attacks are as much motivated by secessionist movements as religion (even if the actually method or terror is more accurately down to the faith). The point being that national and cultural identity is the politics behind violence in those and other places.

Japan has no historical dominions which include Muslims (as is the case in the 3 previously mentioned countries) nor does Japan have a history of treating Muslims violently (in fact it has little history with Muslim at all). So why should it suffer attacks as others do?

A Jewish source in fairness is the absolute last place you can expect a balanced article on the matter to be fair. Though I don't argue Islam as a faith isn't a problem (all faiths are, that one particularly so), using Japan as an example of how we should treat Muslims is false logic, and as Zack says, they aren't even closed to Muslims.

I have to ask, are you an Islamic apologist?

The reason offered to the cause of Islamic extremism or more to the point terrorism, is wrong, as you tried badly to do above.
History or abuses done to people that do not directly involve you, do not cause you to decide to hurt or kill people where your only association is religion.

How best to explain this? Well, how does a Man born in the UK of Pakistani heritage be drawn to kill people in his own country?
Is it claims of rape or toture or bombings that have decided him to be so angry it is  as if their whole immediate family has been murdered?

No, the only connection is Islam and to why any slant on Islam and Muslims is so often taken to the extreme

Can you see this whole retribution comes from their own religion. Most people do not after seeing the news, Where they see some one die on the news, where they have no connection to them other than being either of the same etnicity, sex or religion and think,! Hey we share the same Star sign, I think I am going to go out today and butcher innocent people because of this.

All reasons lead to religion here.

No person would need to enact retribution where you do not know the people but are connected by faith.,
It teaches a perverse superiority view where anything that seems a threat to that group is fair game for being attacked.
So how can wars in the Middle East explain a British/Nigerian born Terrorist based on past wrongs by the European nations?

Nemesis wrote:

Eilzel wrote:Zack has a point Eds. Europe and America in particular have bad history with Muslim populations in general- be it historically recent suppression during the empire or really recent bombing campaigns all over the Middle East.

Of course people will cite Russia, China, Thailand and elsewhere as other areas where Muslims cause problems- but these attacks are as much motivated by secessionist movements as religion (even if the actually method or terror is more accurately down to the faith). The point being that national and cultural identity is the politics behind violence in those and other places.

Japan has no historical dominions which include Muslims (as is the case in the 3 previously mentioned countries) nor does Japan have a history of treating Muslims violently (in fact it has little history with Muslim at all). So why should it suffer attacks as others do?

A Jewish source in fairness is the absolute last place you can expect a balanced article on the matter to be fair. Though I don't argue Islam as a faith isn't a problem (all faiths are, that one particularly so), using Japan as an example of how we should treat Muslims is false logic, and as Zack says, they aren't even closed to Muslims.

I have to ask, are you an Islamic apologist?

The reason offered to the cause of Islamic extremism or more to the point terrorism, is wrong, as you tried badly to do above.
History or abuses done to people that do not directly involve you, do not cause you to decide to hurt or kill people where your only association is religion.

How best to explain this? Well, how does a Man born in the UK of Pakistani heritage be drawn to kill people in his own country?
Is it claims of rape or toture or bombings that have decided him to be so angry it is  as if their whole immediate family has been murdered?

No, the only connection is Islam and to why any slant on Islam and Muslims is so often taken to the extreme

Can you see this whole retribution comes from their own religion. Most people do not after seeingt he news, Where they see some one die on the news, where they have no connection to them other than being either of the same etnicity, sex or religion and think,! Hey we share the same Star sign, I think I am going to go out today and butcher innocent people because of this.

All reasons lead to religion here.

No person would need to enact retribution where you do not know the people but are connected by faith.,
It teaches a perverse superiority view where anything that seems a threat to that group is fair game for being attacked.
So how can wars in the Middle East explain a British/Nigerian born Terrorist based on past wrongs by the European nations?

well THAT didnt take long.......

Are you an Islamic apologist? says the man who pretends he fights against racism, who has become more and more racist.

risingsun wrote:

eddie wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:Sorry to burst your security bubble but Japan does allow Muslims to immigrate, have built mosques, have restaurants that serve halal food, and even the indigenous Japanese have reverted to Islam. Muslims can even become Japanese citizens.

But if such myths make you feel safe, good luck to you. But there may be another reason why Japan hasn't suffered a terrorist attack from so called Muslim extremists.

I don't have any bubbles to burst Zack.
You, however seem to have a whole load of chips on your shoulder.

So when people point out facts to you they have a chip on their shoulder?  How very unbiased of you.

Nope, nothing to do with him pointing out "facts" (Irn has given me the best answer on here -!personal experience)

Zack does have a chip. Maybe you can't see it.

And honestly, don't try using my own words against me. I choose them well and I've told you, you have to have a good memory sassy.

Eds, you didn't need to get defensive about posting the article- you posted a story and linked it to an idea you agree with (that we should consider what you perceived as Japan's strictness toward Islamic immigrants). People countered the story in the OP entirely fairly.

Nemesis- I acknowledged the Islamic problem and terrorism in my post and never seperated the two, if you post here more you will see my criticim of Islam, best not to base your view on one misread post

Eilzel wrote:Eds, you didn't need to get defensive about posting the article- you posted a story and linked it to an idea you agree with (that we should consider what you perceived as Japan's strictness toward Islamic immigrants). People countered the story in the OP entirely fairly.

Nemesis- I acknowledged the Islamic problem and terrorism in my post and never seperated the two, if you post here more you will see my criticim of Islam, best not to base your view on one misread post

I have absolutely no knowledge about Japan Les, I posted the article here and on flap to get a rounded view. I dont believe everything I read!
And it didn't pass me by that it was on a Jewish blog thing!

I just wanted some views. That's why I never gave mine in the OP, as I didn't really have one tbh.

But you have implied here an interest in finding reasons not to let people into Britain, on a thread about an article praising (the article not you) Japan's apparent strictness. You have also reiterated that Japan does not have the same problem with Islamic extremism 'for whatever reason', again on a thread with an article that asserts such a reason.

People here have simply dismissed the article by pointing out the more complex, but utterly valid, historical and geopolitical causes of extremist violence by Muslims. It is not helpful to ignore these reasons yet thats exactly what the Jewish source does.

And Japan is super Racist.
Non Japanese are not allowed to buy housing in Japan at all.

What Les said is right. they have very little to do with Islam at all historically

Regarding the other Asian nations people forget Muslims have been in south east Asia for centuries often as minority groups or small kingdoms that have been separate from the rest and now are part of the same country and having uniformed laws often with a Buddhist slant. so there is natural conflict

the reverse is true in Indonesia where Muslims are the majority so democratically there is a Muslim slant so Non Muslim groups like the West Papuans rebel.

Eilzel wrote:Eds, you didn't need to get defensive about posting the article- you posted a story and linked it to an idea you agree with (that we should consider what you perceived as Japan's strictness toward Islamic immigrants). People countered the story in the OP entirely fairly.

Nemesis- I acknowledged the Islamic problem and terrorism in my post and never seperated the two, if you post here more you will see my criticim of Islam, best not to base your view on one misread post

Eilzel
Nothing has been misread.

You claimed against grievances to events after WW1 freeing them from Ottoman rule. Plus also Western nations freeing Iraq and Afghanistan from despotic rulers is reason enough for the actions of the killers of Lee Rigby for example.
Their only connection is Islam.

People are committing acts because of the association of Islam.
I fail to see how events so long ago or where two nations have been freed from despots is a reason to kill innocent people.
Excuse maybe is what you are providing, but that is being apologetic to the religion which is the main cause Muslims are committing violence.
What is more you can find reason in their text which gives cause to them fighting.

I agree with most of that Nemesis but why the particular levels of violence in places which a) have Muslim minorities living in areas not historically part of that state (Israel/Thailand) or b) are countries which have committed acts of violence against Islamic nations?

There is an obvioys geopolitical factor and historic one- denying it is as futile as denying Christian views on Jews had anything to do with the enabling of the Holocaust.

Eilzel wrote:But you have implied here an interest in finding reasons not to let people into Britain, on a thread about an article praising (the article not you) Japan's apparent strictness. You have also reiterated that Japan does not have the same problem with Islamic extremism 'for whatever reason', again on a thread with an article that asserts such a reason.

People here have simply dismissed the article by pointing out the more complex, but utterly valid, historical and geopolitical causes of extremist violence by Muslims. It is not helpful to ignore these reasons yet thats exactly what the Jewish source does.

Absolutely I think it's time to stop so much immigration - particularly of criminals, which is just laughable. I've made no secret of the fact that I think we are overcrowded and we are.
I was interested to see what people came up with regarding Japan - that's why I posted it on here and flap, to get a balanced view.

I think we could do with taking on some of Australia's policies.

Veya's post was interesting regarding Japan being racist to their own: my dad always said that lol.....actually what he said was "when the end of the world comes there will only be Japanese and Ants"

My point is you made a connection between your hostility to immigration and Japan's ability to avoid terrorism. It is an obvious connection to make, all people here have done is show how the situation is far more complex than that and not as simple as Japan being aggressive in keeping Muslims out.

Eilzel wrote:I agree with most of that Nemesis but why the particular levels of violence in places which a) have Muslim minorities living in areas not historically part of that state (Israel/Thailand) or b) are countries which have committed acts of violence against Islamic nations?

There is an obvioys geopolitical factor and historic one- denying it is as futile as denying Christian views on Jews had anything to do with the enabling of the Holocaust.

Histrorical has some bases, which again is still no reason for Muslims to commit acts, where again they thus prove they cannot move forward those who take up the sword.. Geographical may play some part based on similar cultures but certainly not specifically. Again it was religion again that played a huge role in the hate that developed against the Jews in Europe, blame for wrongly accusing the Jews of killing Jesus etc.

Do you find violence where the Muslim population is very small in any country?

In fact I would like anyone to look up on that.

In fact I am not surprised there is little threat to Japan from extremism. They make up around 70,000 of the population based on the best estimates as there are no offical records.

90% of these are foreign residents and 10% are Japanese, mainly women who have converted when they have married a foreign Muslim. Most of these Muslims come from Indonesia, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Iran.

Japan whilst it has embraced Secularism, still has cultural similarities to Muslim nations. Women seen as second to men etc. So with both Thailand and Israel the Muslim populations are much higher.

All this shows is how Islam teaches a view of domination of its faith. It teaches a view of Non-Muslims as being inferior, where they certainly are treated as inferior in Muslim majority countries. Of course other religions are like this, but the most pressing problem today is found with this religion.

Again I'm not questioning what you are saying, but the historical and political factors remain important. I would never apologize for Islam but the Muslim population is tiny in the US and Canada yet both have suffered Islamic attacks- its geopolitical.

eddie wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:Sorry to burst your security bubble but Japan does allow Muslims to immigrate, have built mosques, have restaurants that serve halal food, and even the indigenous Japanese have reverted to Islam. Muslims can even become Japanese citizens.

But if such myths make you feel safe, good luck to you. But there may be another reason why Japan hasn't suffered a terrorist attack from so called Muslim extremists.

I don't have any bubbles to burst Zack.
You, however seem to have a whole load of chips on your shoulder.

Never said you had. Which is why didn't really reply to your post and made a general statement to anyone who believed in the OP.

As for having a chip on my shoulder, I have never felt I have been treated unfairly. Quite the opposite.

But I was correcting the myths of the OP.

You seem to be defensive becuase I have taken some of your posts to task.

Eilzel wrote:Again I'm not questioning what you are saying, but the historical and political factors remain important. I would never apologize for Islam but the Muslim population is tiny in the US and Canada yet both have suffered Islamic attacks- its geopolitical.

2.5 million in the US and 1 million in Canada respectively is not what I would call tiny in comparrison to Japan.

America will stand out seperate to all other nations due to the hate promoted on a daily bases in many Muslim majority countries. It has been this way for many years. So it is very obvious why America is a target, being as they are seen as the "Great Satan".

Like I say look at numbers where there is a sizeable population of Muslims and in most cases you will find extremism or terrorist threats or attacks.

The problem stems from the religion itself through domination and viewing Non-Muslims as inferior. As the Muslim populations increase in countries, you will start to see more and more countries with this problem.

So to use past events is just an excuse, because where do you draw the line on events in history? Again it shows there is far more to this which stems from the very heart of the religion itself.

Of course many Muslims are against such violence and the killing of innocent people, but they certainly in the majority back Islam to dominate the world.

Nemesis wrote:

Eilzel wrote:Again I'm not questioning what you are saying, but the historical and political factors remain important. I would never apologize for Islam but the Muslim population is tiny in the US and Canada yet both have suffered Islamic attacks- its geopolitical.

2.5 million in the US and 1 million in Canada respectively is not what I would call tiny in comparrison to Japan.

America will stand out seperate to all other nations due to the hate promoted on a daily bases in many Muslim majority countries. It has been this way for many years. So it is very obvious why America is a target, being as they are seen as the "Great Satan".

Like I say look at numbers where there is a sizeable population of Muslims and in most cases you will find extremism or terrorist threats or attacks.

The problem stems from the religion itself through domination and viewing Non-Muslims as inferior. As the Muslim populations increase in countries, you will start to see more and more countries with this problem.

So to use past events is just an excuse, because where do you draw the line on events in history? Again it shows there is far more to this which stems from the very heart of the religion itself.

Of course many Muslims are against such violence and the killing of innocent people, but they certainly in the majority back Islam to dominate the world.

2.5 million Muslims in the USA is tiny compared to the population as a whole. You are basically saying that IF Japan had 1 million Muslims among its population then it would have extremism in its borders. I agree there is a problem with the religion (and all religion) I was simply pointing out the connection the OP article tries to make is simplistic and therefore false.

Eilzel wrote:My point is you made a connection between your hostility to immigration and Japan's ability to avoid terrorism. It is an obvious connection to make, all people here have done is show how the situation is far more complex than that and not as simple as Japan being aggressive in keeping Muslims out.

Okay yes I know.
My answer to you in flap is my best expanation!

Eilzel wrote:

Nemesis wrote:

2.5 million in the US and 1 million in Canada respectively is not what I would call tiny in comparrison to Japan.

America will stand out seperate to all other nations due to the hate promoted on a daily bases in many Muslim majority countries. It has been this way for many years. So it is very obvious why America is a target, being as they are seen as the "Great Satan".

Like I say look at numbers where there is a sizeable population of Muslims and in most cases you will find extremism or terrorist threats or attacks.

The problem stems from the religion itself through domination and viewing Non-Muslims as inferior. As the Muslim populations increase in countries, you will start to see more and more countries with this problem.

So to use past events is just an excuse, because where do you draw the line on events in history? Again it shows there is far more to this which stems from the very heart of the religion itself.

Of course many Muslims are against such violence and the killing of innocent people, but they certainly in the majority back Islam to dominate the world.

2.5 million Muslims in the USA is tiny compared to the population as a whole. You are basically saying that IF Japan had 1 million Muslims among its population then it would have extremism in its borders. I agree there is a problem with the religion (and all religion) I was simply pointing out the connection the OP article tries to make is simplistic and therefore false.

I suggest you read again:

America will stand out seperate to all other nations due to the hate promoted on a daily bases in many Muslim majority countries. It has been this way for many years. So it is very obvious why America is a target, being as they are seen as the "Great Satan".

If Japan did have a around a million Muslims, no doubt it would have problems.
The OP does have a huige point as a population of 70,000 is very small when it is made up of mainly foreigners.

eddie wrote:

Eilzel wrote:But you have implied here an interest in finding reasons not to let people into Britain, on a thread about an article praising (the article not you) Japan's apparent strictness. You have also reiterated that Japan does not have the same problem with Islamic extremism 'for whatever reason', again on a thread with an article that asserts such a reason.

People here have simply dismissed the article by pointing out the more complex, but utterly valid, historical and geopolitical causes of extremist violence by Muslims. It is not helpful to ignore these reasons yet thats exactly what the Jewish source does.

Absolutely I think it's time to stop so much immigration - particularly of criminals, which is just laughable. I've made no secret of the fact that I think we are overcrowded and we are.
I was interested to see what people came up with regarding Japan - that's why I posted it on here and flap, to get a balanced view.

I think we could do with taking on some of Australia's policies.

Veya's post was interesting regarding Japan being racist to their own: my dad always said that lol.....actually what he said was "when the end of the world comes there will only be Japanese and Ants"

Japan and the Han Chinese are the 2 most racist groups of Asians they are also the richest and traditionally most dominate...

Interesting place to compare this to is ... my own backyard. The Dallas-Fort Worth area has:

* 6.5 million residents

* 100,000 Muslim residents

* 10,000 undocumented Muslim residents

* One resident who has the misfortune of being George W. Bush

* Zero terrorism from anyone claiming Islam as a motive

So why do we have such a higher percentage of Muslims as our population, living in a space over 100 times smaller than Japan, and no Islamic-motivated terrorism?

Because Muslims are not actually some violent-by-nature group of people. Like every other group of people you could name.

Ben_Reilly wrote:Interesting place to compare this to is ... my own backyard. The Dallas-Fort Worth area has:

* 6.5 million residents

* 100,000 Muslim residents

* 10,000 undocumented Muslim residents

* One resident who has the misfortune of being George W. Bush

* Zero terrorism from anyone claiming Islam as a motive

So why do we have such a higher percentage of Muslims as our population, living in a space over 100 times smaller than Japan, and no Islamic-motivated terrorism?

Because Muslims are not actually some violent-by-nature group of people. Like every other group of people you could name.

http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/exclusive-clarion-project-discovers-texas-terror-enclave

Islam spread through war, conquest, murder and terror since its inception.




You should have a read on this..


http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/onlinediscipleship/understandingislam/IslamHistory0212.aspx






And....


When apologists for Islam say that Islam is a religion of peace, then they are either lying, stupid or are ignorant of Islamic history.  The conflict between the Judaeo-Christian world isn’t a recent thing and neither does the root cause of this conflict reside in the actions of Western nations.  The cause of the conflict lies with Islam and some proof of this is this list of Islamic aggressive activity since the times of Mohammed. 
I found this list on Winds of Jihad, an anti jihadist blog and it makes interesting reading. There doesn’t appear to be any time in history where Islamic nations haven’t tried to attack non-Muslim nations, often subjecting the original inhabitants of the non Muslim nations to genocide.
This list, compiled by German speaking commentor on a thread entitled The Bible and the Qu’ran, Equally Violent’, covers the years 632CE through to 2010CE, covers Islamic wars of conquest in Europe, Africa and Asia along with the problems of Islamic piracy and slave raids and trading.  This list I believe doesn’t include all those multitude of occasions where Muslim killed Muslim.  The exclusion of the intra Muslim killings puts into sharp relief the antagonism that much of the Islamic world has felt for the non Islamic world.  
Please excuse machine translation from German to English.  The original German language version is below the English one.  
ARTICLE STARTS:
632: Death of Muhammad. Islam has to be subjugated by Muhammad’s lifetime aggressive war large parts of the Arabian Peninsula, and devastated. This vast area is now jews and christians free. After Muhammad’s death, the “jihad” continued and transformed the entire Mediterranean for over 1,300 in an arena permanent wars.
635: A Muslim army conquered Damascus, the capital of the Byzantine-Christian Kingdom of Syria. Town and Country are being robbed and burned, killed or enslaved the inhabitants. Immediately begins the forcible. This means that non-Muslims have to pay a poll tax and are virtually deprived of all rights and protection. Only those who collaborated (converted) will be spared.
636: Battle of Kadesia. Conquest of Mesopotamia, including the Sassanid capital of Ctesiphon. Immediately after the victory of violence begin extensive looting. Caliph Umar was in the conquest as a measure of the large library of forcible Madâin (comparable to the library at Alexandria) burn, and even later the Mohammedan fanaticism sought to destroy all ancient writings, where he was their only apprehended.
637: A Muslim army conquered the Christian Byzantine empire belonging Jerusalem.
 Now begins the forcible. Churches and synagogues are looted or razed, male inhabitants were killed, women and children raped and enslaved. Priest be crucified sometimes.
638: Conquest of Jerusalem by Caliph Omar
640: conquest and pillage of Cairo. Almost the entire male population is massacred, women and children raped and enslaved. The ancient library of Cairo goes up in flames. The forcible begin immediately.
642: decisive battle near Hamadan (Ekbetana) against the Sassanid Empire. Large parts of Iran today fall into the hands of the Muslim conquerors. The magnificent Ekbetana that probably the oldest city in the world, is almost completely destroyed. Irreplaceable art and cultural treasures lost. Immediately begin extensive criminal actions, looting, enslavement and forcible that are not completed until around the year 900.
642: A Muslim army captured and destroyed the Christian-Byzantine Alexandria, the capital of Christian Egypt. Town and country come under the fury of the conquerors. Already in the first few months hundreds of thousands of Christians are murdered, enslaved millions. Destroyed in an unprecedented firestorm the conquerors not only the oldest Christian testimonies but also everything that built ancient Rome and Egypt. The Library of Alexandria, jewel of the ancient world (restored after the accidental fire during the Roman expansion) is now being destroyed systematically and intentionally. More than 4000 years of recorded history, science and poetry before going up in flames.
645: A Muslim army conquered the Christian Barka in North Africa (Libya). Destroying the ancient Greco-Roman city completely. The inhabitants are closed to slavery.
650: The last areas of the Kingdom of Armenia will be overrun, looted and forcibly Islamized.
652: An attack Muslim pirates (privateers) on the island of Sicily is repulsed. The coastal villages lie in ruins, however. Many residents are dead or enslaved.
667: More attacks Muslim pirates (privateers) on the island of Sicily are common, but are repulsed. Coastal villages and churches have become more and more attached. Despite repeatedly residents are trafficked.
674: A Muslim attack on Constantinople (capital of the Christian Byzantine Empire and seat of the Christian emperor) has a shot blocked. On the decline of the Islamic Army, the land to be razed to the ground east of the Bosporus, the inhabitants into captivity.
700: The Italian island of Pantelleria is conquered by Muslim and enslaved the population. The island is becoming a Muslim pirate nest.
708: Sicily was conquered by Muslims in the short term but can be shocked with heavy losses and devastation.
708: The Muslim conquest of Christian campaign to the Atlantic coast of North Africa. On his march all cities and towns in North Africa were looted and burned. More than 50% of all inhabitants of North Africa are at the end of the campaign, millions are dead raped, tortured and enslaved 
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710: the conquest of the last Christian city in North Africa, the entire formerly Christian North Africa is Islamized. Almost all of the 400 dioceses in Christian North Africa perish. North Africa was a once flourishing Christian world, the important theologians of Christian antiquity has produced.
711: Muslim armies cross the Strait of Gibraltar and invade Europe. Beginning of the conquest of the Iberian Peninsula (now Spain and Portugal). Immediately begins the basic forcible of the conquered territories. The head taxes are higher and the body punishments harder than anywhere else under the iron boot of Islam.
711: Qutaiba ibn Muslim begins on behalf of the Arab Umayyad ruler of Khorasan from the subjugation of Transoxiana. He captured the major cities of Samarkand and Bukhara, which plundered and are almost completely depopulated. The survivors end up in slavery or be forcibly Islamized. Also Khorezm and Ferghana Valley are subjected.
711: located on the desecration of the Temple Mount to the Basilica of Santa Maria al-Aqsa Mosque (the “distant”) by Abd al-Walid. Today, this mosque is the third most important in Islam because Muhammad had prayed there on his “heavenly journey”, although he was at that time already 79 years buried in Medina. This magnificent church was originally built by the Emperor Justinian (527-565). For Islam, the conversion of a famous church also means always triumph over Christianity. Legend and developments are in this ideology more important than historical facts.
712: Muslim conquerors reach the borders of China and India. Behind them (as contemporary chroniclers) all territories conquered in flames soon will do the Arabs and initial forays to Sindh. Flows of slaves brought onto the market of the Middle East.
712: The Muslim conquest and forcible southern Spain is almost complete. The North African slave markets burst over from European slave.
713: The Muslims conquer and plunder Barcelona, ​​crossing the Pyrenees and falling scorching and consuming in the present territory of Southern France. Around ninety years after Muhammad’s death and about 380 years before the beginning of the Christian Crusades are Muslim armies (not about Muslim missionaries!) In the Christian kingdom of the Franks (now France).
717: Another Muslim attack on Constantinople (capital of the Christian Byzantine Empire and seat of the Christian emperor) has a shot blocked. On the decline of the Islamic Army, the land to be razed to the ground east of the Bosporus, the inhabitants into captivity.
720: The Muslims are invading southern France, Narbonne and conquer besiege Toulouse. The campaign is less than the forcible 
 the robbery and the purchase of slaves.
720: Another attempt at landing Muslim troops in Sicily in which there is extensive fighting and devastation.
723: defensive battle Frankish forces at Tours and Poitiers (now France) victory of the Frankish army over a Muslim army. The Muslims are thrown back behind the Pyrenees, but retain much of the Iberian Peninsula (now Spain and Portugal) in their possession.
731: looting break by Islamic armies in southern France. Dijon Sens close to the Loire, and Langres and Luxeuil them is virtually the whole of France south of the Loire in the hands.
732: The plundering of the rich monastery town of Tours failed by the defeat at the battle of Tours and Poitiers. Nevertheless, the Muslim invaders plundered and devastated the region. They can lead to the withdrawal of thousands of prisoners into slavery.
735: Muslims attack again in the south of France with strong armies. Although they fail to capture the targeted cities and countries, but all residents to them falling into the hands enslaved, raped women and children also.
751: In the Battle of Talas, a Muslim Arab army defeated the first time a Chinese army.
810: Islamic troops occupy Corsica and use it from now on as a base for attacks on the southern coast of France 
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831: Muslim troops conquer and pillage the Sicilian city of Palermo.
832  Attacked Muslim units and plunder Marseille, with large quantities of goods and slaves were seized: 
835: From Sicily put the Muslims to the mainland, and desolated Calabria
838: Islamic forces attacked again south of France and the Rhone valley to 
 plunder.
840: Taranto and Bari fall into the hands of Muslim invaders. Both cities are most severely looted and burned. Thousands fall into slavery.
840-847: This is under Frankish protection Benevento is occupied by Muslim attackers.
841: Brindisi falls after heavy fighting in the hands of Muslim invaders.
841: Capua, after a short siege completely destroyed and looted.
843: Muslim troops conquer and pillage the Sicilian city of Messina 
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843: Arab conquest attempts fail to Rome. The city and region are looted or burned, the population enslaved if caught.
848: In August, the city of Ragusa in Sicily is plundered and destroyed by the Arabs, despite the fact (according to Ibn al-Athir) that residents had made peace with the Arabs, and they left the city.
848: attacked Muslim units and plunder Marseille region is devastated. Hostages and slaves are taken.
851-852: The short freed Benvent is once again occupied by the Muslims. The occupiers sent to a bloodbath among the population.
856: Arab invaders attacked and destroyed the Cathedral of Canossa in Apulia. The city was looted and taken slaves.
859  Muslim troops attacked and plundered again in southern France: 
868: The Arabs conquer the city of Ragusa in Sicily final.
870: The Arabs conquer the island of Malta and destroy the almost 700 years unbroken existing Christian culture.
878: Muslim troops conquer and pillage the Sicilian city of Syracuse.
880: Muslim troops conquer and plunder Nice 
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882: Muslim invaders built at the mouth of the Garigliano between Naples and Rome, a base from which they attacked from Campania and Lazio in Sabinia.
888: Muslim troops in Provence with Fraxinetum establish a new beachhead, assistant to the Spanish Moors. From there, they make looting in the west to Arles (capital of the kingdom of Burgundy) and along the Rhone to Avignon, Vienne (near Lyon) and Grenoble.
902: Muslim troops conquer and pillage the Sicilian town of Taormina.
911: The Bishop of Narbonne is not able to get from France to Rome, because Muslims have occupied the mountain passes. Highway robbery, enslavement and looting are rampant.
918: Muslim troops conquer and pillage from Sicily lying on the adjacent mainland in Reggio Calabria 
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920: Muslims expelled from Spain in the Pyrenees, ravaged unhindered Gascony and threatened Toulouse.
934: Genoa and La Spezia are attacked by Muslims, looted and burned down.
935: Genoa and La Spezia are again attacked by Muslims, looted and burned down.
939: Muslim hordes encounter in the north through to Geneva in the Swiss Alpine passes. The city is robbed and taken slaves.
942: Muslim troops march through the scorching and killing southeastern France and northern Italy to offend.
942: Nice is attacked by Muslims, looted and burned down.
952-960: On the basis of the Alpine passes Muslim troops capture for almost 8 years Switzerland. They looted and destroyed in the ensuing years, the Valais, Graubünden and parts of eastern Switzerland. Between 952 and 960, the Arabs dominated after the Battle of Orbe large parts of South and West of Switzerland, including the Great St. Bernard Pass and the north-east also came up against St. Gallen, in the southeast to Pontresina.
942-965: Muslim troops conquer the Duchy of Savoy.
906-972: Muslim troops conquer the Provence.
964: Muslim troops conquer and pillage from Sicily which lies on the mainland Rometta.
979-988: Sebük ​​Tegin declared “holy war” against the Hindu Schahis whose king Djaypal (965-1001) he defeated 979 and 988th All fortresses inside Afghanistan to fall to the Indian border in the hands of his Muslim warriors.
1002: Bari is again conquered by the Arabs and destroyed.
1002: Genoa conquered by Arabs and looted.
1004: Pisa was conquered by Arabs and looted.
1009: Caliph Al-Hakim ordered the systematic destruction of all Christian shrines in Jerusalem. The Holy Sepulchre (including the Holy Sepulchre) is destroyed.
1070: The Seljuks, a nomadic people from Central Asia, which is in the 10th Century AD, had converted to Islam, giving it control over Jerusalem. The peaceful pilgrimage of Christians to the holy places is increasingly hampered. Attacks on pilgrims to murder and enslavement take.
1071: Battle of Manzikert – a Christian Byzantine army is defeated by a Muslim army. The Muslim Seljuk Turks conquered the heartland of the Christian Byzantine Empire: Asia Minor.
1099: After nearly 470 years of military expansion and aggression of Islam as a backlash begin 
 the Christian Crusades.
1206: Sultanate of Delhi. General Qutb-ud-Din Aibak assumes by assassination of the sovereign power in the country along the Indus river and founded the so-called Slave Dynasty (1206-1290) The whole country is forcibly Islamized. The Sultanate is later than “bankruptcy” also about the Islamic Mughal Empire.
1389: Battle of Kosovo Field. A Christian army of Serbs, Bosnians and Bulgarians will be beaten by a Muslim army devastating. The Balkan countries are Muslim vassals.
1453: Conquest of Constantinople (now Istanbul), the center of the Eastern Roman Empire and the Orthodox Church. The Christian Emperor Constantine XI. Palaiologos falls in defending the city. End of the Christian Byzantine Empire. The city is sacked 3 days and nights. In all the streets are filled with unimaginable horrors. Murder, torture, mutilation and rape are commonplace. Sultan Mehmed II can perform the entire Byzantine nobility and publicly beheaded and their families. Tens of thousands of civilians end up enslaved to the Muslim slave markets.
1479: Ottoman troops capture after fierce fighting the Venetian island of Evia. A large part of the population is massacred survivors sold into slavery.
1480: A Muslim army conquered Otranto in Italy. The city is busy (until 1481) and the arbitrariness of the Muslim conquerors abandoned. Remain burnt walls and streets full of bones.
1492: After 1492, the Spanish had conquered Granada, the last Muslim kingdom in Western Europe, were established fled from Moorish Spain in the Maghreb. Together with local Arabs and Moors upgraded from large fleets and started from its base as corsairs from North Africa a permanent war against the Christian Europe, especially against the marine and coastal areas. The depredations of the Muslim corsairs led for the next four centuries, to the coasts of Flanders, Denmark, Ireland and even Iceland, where they kidnapped from coastal villages and towns inhabitants and later sold as slaves. Most frequent target of slave raids, however, were the coasts of Italy, Spain and Portugal.
1499-1503: Turkish units penetrate into the northern Italian Friuli and even threaten Vicenza. The Apulian port town of Otranto (about 100 kilometers southeast of Brindisi) is conquered and the bridgehead for other predators and campaigns developed.
1521: A Muslim army conquered Belgrade. All churches are destroyed or converted into mosques. Priests are impaled or burned alive, massacred men, women and children raped and / or sold as slaves.
1526: Battle of Mohács – a Christian army is defeated by a Muslim army. Muslim armies conquered most of Hungary and threatened Vienna. The Turks live in Hungary with unknown until then Fury.
1526: The city of Ragusa (today Dubrovnik) was conquered by Ottoman forces. What follows are looting, rape and forcible or slavery.
1526-1530: Mughal Emperor Babur conquered starting from the territory of present-day Uzbekistan and Afghanistan, the Sultanate of Delhi and the Indian heartland around the North Indian Indo-Gangetic plain and the cities of Delhi, Agra and Lahore. 100 to 150 million people fall into the clutches of this Muslim usurper.
1529: The first siege of Vienna by a Muslim army fails. On the rise but the cities and Komorn go Pressburg (now Bratislava) in flames. The whole surrounding country are devastated. But thousands fall into Muslim captivity and end in the slave markets of Istanbul.
1534: With a total of 84 galleys attacked Muslim pirates and plundering the southern west coast of Italy at Reggio starting northward through the Tyrrhenian sea to Sperlonga to subsequently loaded drive with thousands of slaves and immense booty to Istanbul.
1537: Muslim Pirates conquer the Venetian island of Naxos, Kasos, Tinos and Karpathos.
1543: besiege Muslim Berber pirates and plunder the city of Nice.
1544: (? Barbaros Hayreddin Pa a) Chair ad-Din, the island of Ischia, coat (off the coast of Italy), 4000 hostage taking (which are only released for ransom) and more enslaved 9000 inhabitants (almost the entire remaining population).
1551: Turgutreis enslaved the entire population of the Maltese island of Gozo. Showing 5,000 – 6,000 people sold on the Libyan slave markets.
1554: Muslim pirates raided the Italian town of Vieste. The city is sacked, and there are 7,000 – 10,000 made slaves to be sold in the markets of Istanbul.
1555: Turgutreis, coat of Bastia in Corsica. He enslaved 6000-7000 people are sold on the Libyan slave markets. While retreating, he left many coastal villages in flames.
1558: Pirates of the Barbary coast conquer the town of Ciutadella (Minorca). They destroy all the buildings take slaves 3000 (sold in Istanbul), and otherwise kill the entire city.
1563: Turgutreis lands on the coast of the province of Granada (Spain). He conquered and plundered all the coastal towns. Including Almuñécar, where he took 4,000 slaves and slays a much larger number. In subsequent years, the Baleren get attacked so often that the whole coast must be finally fixed with watchtowers and fortified churches. Formentera islands are completely depopulated by slavery, massacre and escape.
1565: The siege of Malta by an Ottoman army began on 18 May and lasted until the withdrawal of the troops on 8 September 1565th Here, the island was almost completely destroyed, fired the fortifications to rubble and more than 42,000 soldiers and civilians killed.
1658-1707: Südexpansion of the Mughal empire and forcible of the conquered territories.
1609-1616: England alone 466 merchant ships (15,000 to 40,000 people) is losing the Muslim Barbary pirates. The crews are massacred or ending in slavery.
1617-1625: the Berber pirate attacks are commonplace. Attacks occur in southern Portugal, south and east of Spain, the Balearic Islands, Iceland, Sardinia, Corsica, Elba, the Italian peninsula (particularly in Liguria, Tuscany, Lazio, Campagnien, Calabria and Puglia) Other raids and robberies (including rape and enslavement) occur on Sicily and Malta. Larger raids in the correct format campaigns directed against the Iberian Peninsula. These attacks of Berber pirates cities Bouzas, Cangas, Moaña and Darbo fall victim.
1627: Iceland is repeatedly plundered by Turkish pirates and sold a large part of the population as slaves to the Barbary coast. Those who resist will be herded into a church and burned alive.
1631: Murat Reis, coat with Algerian pirates and also regular Ottoman soldiers Ireland. They storm the coast near Baltimore (County of Cork). They pillage and plunder the entire city, taking nearly every citizen of Baltimore, and sell them as slaves in the slave markets of the Barbary coast. Only two ever return home alive.
1677-1680: An additional 160 British merchant ships (8,000 to 20,000 people) captured by Algerian Muslim pirates, the crew massacred or enslaved.
1683: Second (unsuccessful) siege of Vienna and threat to Central Europe by Muslim armies. During the advance of the Ottoman army to go to the surrounding countryside in flames. All villages are looted and completely depopulated (enslavement), where the inhabitants were not already fled. The retreating Turks left only scorched earth.
1700-1750: About 20,000 European prisoners (not slaves) burn in Algerian prisons and awaiting ransom. Including not only Mediterranean but also Danish, German, English, Swedish and even Icelandic.
1822: On the islands of Chios and Psara slaughter the Greeks and Turks from 50,000 enslave another 50,000.
1842-1846: murder of 10,000 Christian Assyrians by the Turks.
1894-1896: murder of 150,000 Armenian Christians by the Turkish Sultan Abdul Hamid.
1914-1923: genocide of 300,000 to 730,000 Greeks by the Turks, especially in northern Turkey Pontus region.
1915-1918: Genocide of Armenians. The Islamic government of Turkey uses the confusion of the first World War to the extinction of the Christian Armenians. 1.5 to 2 million Armenians are slaughtered in death marches, prison camps and in local massacres. In addition, 750,000 Christian Assyrians in Iraq are killed by the Turks.
1933: The massacre of Simmele / Iraq kill the Turks 3000 Christian Assyrians.
1955: “pogrom in Istanbul” (plus Izmir and Ankara), reportedly only 15 deaths, property damage up to 500 million U.S. dollars, the exodus of some 100,000 Greeks from Turkey (This left 2,500).
1969: Peoples Illegal annexation of West Papua by Indonesia followed by forcible and serious human rights violations against indigenous peoples today – and condoned by the UN renaming the country in Irian Jaya. Military kidnap and kill more than 100,000 people and are actively involved in illegal logging, which destroys the habitat of the indigenous population. By a large segment of the population resettlement is now Indonesian. 2003, the province of Papua Barat is removed against the will of the Papuans from West Papua.
1974: Assassination of 4,000 Christian Cypriots on behalf of Turkish President Fahri Koroturk.
1988: The attack on an American aircraft by Libyan agents die 270 people in Lockerbie, Scotland.
1990 to date: In Kashmir today about 10,000 Hindus from Ork fundamentalists were killed.
1993: In Sivas in Turkey, a hotel was set on fire, in the Alevi intellectuals lodged on the occasion of a celebration. 37 burn, while outside thousands of Sunnis celebrate her painful death.
1975-2000: Nine days after the declaration of independence of the former Portuguese colony of East Timor, the country is invaded by Indonesia’s invasion forces. In the course of 25 years, about 23% of the predominantly Christian population, or 183,000 people are slaughtered, raped countless, tortured, forcibly relocated, imprisoned, exiled or forced sterilization.
2001: Suicide bombers hijack four planes, flying two of them into the New York Twin Towers, one into the Pentagon – while the fourth is brought by citizens to crash – and thus kill some 3,300 people (including emergency services).
2002: About 50 armed men bring in the Moscow Dubrovka theater 850 people under their control. 129 hostages died during the storming of the theater.
2004: Through ten mohammedanistischer bomb explosions “activists” die 191 people in Madrid.
2004: In the Beslan siege / Russia in September 2004, Chechen terrorists bring more than 1,100 children and adults in a school in North Ossetia in their violence. The hostage situation ends after three days in a tragedy – in the liberation by Russian forces according to official figures 331 hostages die.
2005: Suicide bombers kill by three attacks in subway trains and a bus in 52 people in London.
2006: Seven bombs on commuter trains killed 207 citizens in Mumbai (Bombay).
2008: Ten murderers draw four days in small groups through Mumbai, killing, torturing kidnap and maim indiscriminately, who they can catch. 174 people die.
2010: Suicide bombers detonate two bombs in the Moscow subway, killing 40 people.
ARTICLE ENDS:


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Tommy, we must see the good in every one,

including fanatic murdering Muslims, don't you know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

Point missed, under surprising- angry old men and all that lol

No doubt you prefer angry Muslims who would be throwing you off a talk building for being homosexual...




You prefer them beheading innocent people for daring to believe something different to them.


Torturing others for shaving or wearing jeans that are a bit too tight.

Obviously not.

Well you are sticking up for them...

I'm not sticking up for them. I acknowledge the problems inherent in Islam I just don't pretend the history of Empire isn't relevant when it clearly is.

Islam teaches to fight against non believers and created its own empire through war, death and destruction and theft of others lands since it started.




You try to excuse Muslim aggression, terrorism and violence.

The Koran has instructions of that sort indeed. Islam and Christendom both grew by violence and murder and forced conversions.

I'm not excusing anything, I can't stand Islam, more than any other religion. You just ignore history- that is your problem, a total ignorance to education.