Another terrorist attack in the UK

by Irn Bru Sat May 31, 2014 4:48 pm

Londonderry explosion: 'Firebomb' explodes in Everglades Hotel

Bombers who attacked a hotel in Londonderry on Thursday night have been called cowards by the local police commander.

A masked man threw what police have described as a "firebomb" into the reception area of the Everglades Hotel, in the Prehen area of the city.

It was evacuated after the device was reported at 23:15 BST on Thursday.

The device exploded a short time later when Army bomb experts were working to make it safe.

No-one was injured in the explosion but the reception was extensively damaged.

PSNI Chief Superintendent Stephen Cargin said: "A masked man went into the hotel and left a hold-all at the reception desk saying he was from the IRA.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-27631542

Some people just never give up and much of it is on the back of religion as much as just nationalism.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 5:43 pm

I wouldnt worry, according to didge its diffcult to obtain the chemicals to make explosives ://?roflmao?/:

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 5:43 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:I wouldnt worry, according to didge its diffcult to obtain the chemicals to make explosives ://?roflmao?/:

It is difficult, how many attacks do you see happen here Victor?

Take your time dummy!

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 5:48 pm

It isnt at all difficult let me tell you....

many quite "ordinary" everyday chemicals can be used to make explosives...let alone incendiaries...they are NOT licenced...or controlled in any way

the lack of attacks here is down to lack of man power, lack of knowlege, success by the intelligence people, and it must be said good luck, as it seems terrorism is not the "thing" at the moment...

however...i wouldnt bet your pension on it remaining so.....

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 5:50 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:It isnt at all difficult let me tell you....

many quite "ordinary" everyday chemicals can be used to make explosives...let alone incendiaries...they are NOT licenced...or controlled in any way

the lack of attacks here is down to lack of man power, lack of knowlege, success by the intelligence people, and it must be said good luck, as it seems terrorism is not the "thing" at the moment...

however...i wouldnt bet your pension on it remaining so.....

Contradiction alert, because there is your problem, many people are not expert in bomb making, thus it is not ready available is it?

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 5:55 pm

BUT...the chemicals are NOT difficult to obtain.....are they....which was YOUR proposition....

I have for many years held the opinion that the only reason we HAVNT been blown to kingdom come is down to a lack of brain power amongst these "terrorists", poorly made devices (often more dangerous to the user than the intended victims) poor explosives, AND moreover pathetic targeting.....

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 5:57 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:BUT...the chemicals are NOT difficult to obtain.....are they....which was YOUR proposition....

I have for many years held the opinion that the only reason we HAVNT been blown to kingdom come is down to a lack of brain power amongst these "terrorists", poorly made devices (often more dangerous to the user than the intended victims) poor explosives, AND moreover pathetic targeting.....

Certain chemicals are very difficult to obtain and again you nee to know which chemicals to use, thus the disposition then would logically be it is difficult to obtain chemicals for weapon making.
Take the IRA at its height of terror campaign here, do you now how many bomb makers they actually had?

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:01 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:I wouldnt worry, according to didge its diffcult to obtain the chemicals to make explosives ://?roflmao?/:

There does seem to be a crackdown. I usually buy hydrogen peroxide to treat any wounds on the horses, but the last time I went to buy some, three separate chemists wouldn't sell it - one asked me what I wanted it for... as if I look like a feckin terrorist! Having said that, there are plenty of fertilizers and stuff around, easy if you know how........

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:03 pm

Not many as far as I am aware. Lets face it, its not a skill that is too easy to acquire, or at least lets say both requirements of a having the skill AND being a dedicated terrorist is not a common combination....

and you are wrong didge...it is NOT difficult to obtain those chemicals....

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:04 pm

Tesstacious wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:I wouldnt worry, according to didge its diffcult to obtain the chemicals to make explosives ://?roflmao?/:
There does seem to be a crackdown. I usually buy hydrogen peroxide to treat any wounds on the horses, but the last time I went to buy some, three separate chemists wouldn't sell it - one asked me what I wanted it for... as if I look like a feckin terrorist! Having said that, there are plenty of fertilizers and stuff around, easy if you know how........

Look on ebay. affraid

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FOOD-GRADE-1-X-2-LITRE-HYDROGEN-PEROXIDE-35-JERRY-CAN-24-HOUR-DELIVERY-/261262500696?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Natural_AlternativeTherapies&hash=item3cd4756358

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:06 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:Not many as far as I am aware. Lets face it, its not a skill that is too easy to acquire, or at least lets say both requirements of a having the skill AND being a dedicated terrorist is not a common combination....

and you are wrong didge...it is NOT difficult to obtain those chemicals....

You are still not grasping this are you and even admit yourself it is not a skill easy to require, in fact it took many own goals and many years for the IRA to become expert bomb makers.
Yeah you obtain these chemicals and mate do you not think you are monitored?

How do you think terrorists are actually caught?

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:08 pm

monitored...oh thats ok then.....that will stop everyone....
and ebay aint the only place to get stuff....

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:11 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
Tesstacious wrote:
There does seem to be a crackdown. I usually buy hydrogen peroxide to treat any wounds on the horses, but the last time I went to buy some, three separate chemists wouldn't sell it - one asked me what I wanted it for... as if I look like a feckin terrorist! Having said that, there are plenty of fertilizers and stuff around, easy if you know how........

Look on ebay.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FOOD-GRADE-1-X-2-LITRE-HYDROGEN-PEROXIDE-35-JERRY-CAN-24-HOUR-DELIVERY-/261262500696?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Natural_AlternativeTherapies&hash=item3cd4756358

Oh I can buy it in the UK easily enough. Wouldn't want to bring it back to Ireland though!

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:12 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:monitored...oh thats ok then.....that will stop everyone....
and ebay aint the only place to get stuff....

NaCTSO has worked closely with trade associations such as the Chemical Business Association (CBA) and the Chemical Industries Association (CIA) to highlight the potential for misuse of these chemicals. Together we have developed and introduced a series of measures, aimed at all levels of business, to raise awareness about the threat and improve the security of chemicals in the workplace. We have also encouraged businesses to be more aware of their customer and visitor profiles, in terms of payment methods, delivery addresses, amounts or combinations of materials or significant changes to an established customer profile.

http://www.wired.com/2008/12/how-to-defeat-i/

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:15 pm

Didge wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:Not many as far as I am aware. Lets face it, its not a skill that is too easy to acquire, or at least lets say both requirements of a having the skill AND being a dedicated terrorist is not a common combination....

and you are wrong didge...it is NOT difficult to obtain those chemicals....

You are still not grasping this are you and even admit yourself it is not a skill easy to require, in fact it took many own goals and many years for the IRA to become expert bomb makers.
Yeah you obtain these chemicals and mate do you not think you are monitored?

How do you think terrorists are actually caught?

Didge it ain't rocket science! Even I know how to make explosives, my ex - a Clare man - told me. Simple fertilizer, brown sugar... I won't go on in case I'm being monitored. Suspect

://?roflmao?/:

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:17 pm

Tesstacious wrote:
Didge wrote:

You are still not grasping this are you and even admit yourself it is not a skill easy to require, in fact it took many own goals and many years for the IRA to become expert bomb makers.
Yeah you obtain these chemicals and mate do you not think you are monitored?

How do you think terrorists are actually caught?

Didge it ain't rocket science! Even I know how to make explosives, my ex - a Clare man - told me. Simple fertilizer, brown sugar... I won't go on in case I'm being monitored.

://?roflmao?/:

If you think it is so easy Tess, why have so many who have thought the same ended up blowing themselves up?

I have no wish to see you blow yourself up either, so would not advocate that you try.

by eddie Sat May 31, 2014 6:20 pm

Didge wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:Not many as far as I am aware. Lets face it, its not a skill that is too easy to acquire, or at least lets say both requirements of a having the skill AND being a dedicated terrorist is not a common combination....

and you are wrong didge...it is NOT difficult to obtain those chemicals....

You are still not grasping this are you and even admit yourself it is not a skill easy to require, in fact it took many own goals and many years for the IRA to become expert bomb makers.
Yeah you obtain these chemicals and mate do you not think you are monitored?

How do you think terrorists are actually caught?

I think it's terrible that there are videos on YouTube showing how to make homemade bombs!!! YouTube has a responsibility to moderate these things.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:22 pm

eddie wrote:
Didge wrote:

You are still not grasping this are you and even admit yourself it is not a skill easy to require, in fact it took many own goals and many years for the IRA to become expert bomb makers.
Yeah you obtain these chemicals and mate do you not think you are monitored?

How do you think terrorists are actually caught?

I think it's terrible that there are videos on YouTube showing how to make homemade bombs!!! YouTube has a responsibility to moderate these things.

Agreed

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:22 pm

oh careful tess,....didge knows all....about every subject going...

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:24 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:oh careful tess,....didge knows all....about every subject going...

I am no expert on making bombs and proud of that fact, but I can understand the history behind terrorism and how many people are not experts on bomb making, seriously grow up

by eddie Sat May 31, 2014 6:24 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:oh careful tess,....didge knows all....about every subject going...

No it's true Vic! There are videos on YouTube showing how bombs are made!!

Edit: I see you were talking to Tess lol sorry

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:26 pm

eddie wrote:
Didge wrote:

You are still not grasping this are you and even admit yourself it is not a skill easy to require, in fact it took many own goals and many years for the IRA to become expert bomb makers.
Yeah you obtain these chemicals and mate do you not think you are monitored?

How do you think terrorists are actually caught?

I think it's terrible that there are videos on YouTube showing how to make homemade bombs!!! YouTube has a responsibility to moderate these things.

yeah...lets crush all knowledge of anything remotely dangerous out of existence, perhaps we can replace it with muffin the mule....
lets all live in a cotton wool padded cell being fed repulsive political doctrines of "kid glove dictatorship" whilst being told how good it is for us....

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:27 pm

Didge wrote:
Tesstacious wrote:

Didge it ain't rocket science! Even I know how to make explosives, my ex - a Clare man - told me. Simple fertilizer, brown sugar... I won't go on in case I'm being monitored.

://?roflmao?/:

If you think it is so easy Tess, why have so many who have thought the same ended up blowing themselves up?

I have no wish to see you blow yourself up either, so would not advocate that you try.

Young - inexperienced - thick. Trust me, all the old timers round here know all that stuff. Maybe it's just County Clare though, they were quite famous for it once. Cool

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:29 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
eddie wrote:

I think it's terrible that there are videos on YouTube showing how to make homemade bombs!!! YouTube has a responsibility to moderate these things.

yeah...lets crush all knowledge of anything remotely dangerous out of existence, perhaps we can replace it with muffin the mule....
lets all live in a cotton wool padded cell being fed repulsive political doctrines of "kid glove dictatorship" whilst being told how good it is for us....

Wow so you do not want to crush the child porn industry then?
Or do you think we should have at least some things stopped from being on the internet?

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:29 pm

Didge wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:oh careful tess,....didge knows all....about every subject going...

I am no expert on making bombs and proud of that fact, but I can understand the history behind terrorism and how many people are not experts on bomb making, seriously grow up

didge me old mucker...I have news for you

you are an expert in absolutely nothing
and frequently show it
you are a daydreamer and woolly pated idealist

you do however have the good use of displaying to the world just how poisonously dictatorial the "progressives" are

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:30 pm

Tesstacious wrote:
Didge wrote:

If you think it is so easy Tess, why have so many who have thought the same ended up blowing themselves up?

I have no wish to see you blow yourself up either, so would not advocate that you try.

Young - inexperienced - thick. Trust me, all the old timers round here know all that stuff. Maybe it's just County Clare though, they were quite famous for it once.

Again from reading the history of the IRA, many spent years before becoming experts, it is one thing to know the formula of how to make a bomb, it is another to actually make one.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:32 pm

Didge wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:

yeah...lets crush all knowledge of anything remotely dangerous out of existence, perhaps we can replace it with muffin the mule....
lets all live in a cotton wool padded cell being fed repulsive political doctrines of "kid glove dictatorship" whilst being told how good it is for us....

Wow so you do not want to crush the child porn industry then?

association fallacy alert

Or do you think we should have at least some things stopped from being on the internet?

actually id DO think some things shouldnt be there...but its where to draw the line....as said...you wouldnt be happy at muffin the mule level.....unless it was a multiculturalism "lesson" from progressive central hive mind....

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:33 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
Didge wrote:

I am no expert on making bombs and proud of that fact, but I can understand the history behind terrorism and how many people are not experts on bomb making, seriously grow up

didge me old mucker...I have news for you

you are an expert in absolutely nothing
and frequently show it
you are a daydreamer and woolly pated idealist

you do however have the good use of displaying to the world just how poisonously dictatorial the "progressives" are

Is that why you get left so easily standing in debates with me, ha ha

Keep dreaming sunshine, as seen I easily counter your fear views and as seen again you think progression is bad and thus where we have progressed to give equal rights to people, this is now a bad thing to you this great progression.

You are just like a spoilt child, who wants to scream and scream and scream until you are sick, if you do not get your way. Your arguments as seen are poor based upon unfounded fears.

You wish to stay backwards that is your choice, but allow many others to evolve

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:35 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
Didge wrote:

Wow so you do not want to crush the child porn industry then?

association fallacy alert

Or do you think we should have at least some things stopped from being on the internet?

actually id DO think some things shouldnt be there...but its where to draw the line....as said...you wouldnt be happy at muffin the mule level.....unless it was a multiculturalism "lesson" from progressive central hive mind....

There you go then, so if you advocate for some things not to be there, you have no counter to the point Eddie made, because you advocate the same as her wanting some things not on there

Contradiction alert

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:39 pm

Didge wrote:
Tesstacious wrote:

Young - inexperienced - thick. Trust me, all the old timers round here know all that stuff. Maybe it's just County Clare though, they were quite famous for it once.

Again from reading the history of the IRA, many spent years before becoming experts, it is one thing to know the formula of how to make a bomb, it is another to actually make one.

For Christ's sake Didge, there have been many many, many bombs made by people from the Banner County. A fierce bunch, they even beat the Vikings you know....

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:41 pm

Tesstacious wrote:
Didge wrote:

Again from reading the history of the IRA, many spent years before becoming experts, it is one thing to know the formula of how to make a bomb, it is another to actually make one.
For Christ's sake Didge, there have been many many, many bombs made by people from the Banner County. A fierce bunch, they even beat the Vikings you know....

ANDY OPPENHEIMER: The current lot do seem to be a bunch of amateurs. It’s true that, in theory, you can get all this stuff on making bombs from the Internet. But it still takes a lot of practice to get it right. It took the IRA several years and suffered a lot of "own goals" [where bomb-makers were killed by their own bombs] before they became proficient in using explosives. They were in the IRA for life and learned their skills over many years. They had a proper training program where each engineer passed on their knowledge to others in a classroom, within families, and within the republican community, as well as from previous campaigns and Irish and British military sources of expertise.

by eddie Sat May 31, 2014 6:43 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
eddie wrote:

I think it's terrible that there are videos on YouTube showing how to make homemade bombs!!! YouTube has a responsibility to moderate these things.

yeah...lets crush all knowledge of anything remotely dangerous out of existence, perhaps we can replace it with muffin the mule....
lets all live in a cotton wool padded cell being fed repulsive political doctrines of "kid glove dictatorship" whilst being told how good it is for us....

HAHAHAHAHA I don't like muffin the mule Razz

Seriously vic, you think it's ok to leave these vids up for all to see?

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:52 pm

Didge wrote:
Tesstacious wrote:
For Christ's sake Didge, there have been many many, many bombs made by people from the Banner County. A fierce bunch, they even beat the Vikings you know....

ANDY OPPENHEIMER: The current lot do seem to be a bunch of amateurs. It’s true that, in theory, you can get all this stuff on making bombs from the Internet. But it still takes a lot of practice to get it right. It took the IRA several years and suffered a lot of "own goals" [where bomb-makers were killed by their own bombs] before they became proficient in using explosives. They were in the IRA for life and learned their skills over many years. They had a proper training program where each engineer passed on their knowledge to others in a classroom, within families, and within the republican community, as well as from previous campaigns and Irish and British military sources of expertise.

Sure and wouldn't you and your google expertise know better than the people actually involved? Silly me.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:53 pm

Didge wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:

actually id DO think some things shouldnt be there...but its where to draw the line....as said...you wouldnt be happy at muffin the mule level.....unless it was a multiculturalism "lesson" from progressive central hive mind....

There you go then, so if you advocate for some things not to be there, you have no counter to the point Eddie made, because you advocate the same as her wanting some things not on there

Contradiction alert

Idiot...what part of "where do you draw the line" do you not understand....

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:55 pm

Tesstacious wrote:
Didge wrote:

ANDY OPPENHEIMER: The current lot do seem to be a bunch of amateurs. It’s true that, in theory, you can get all this stuff on making bombs from the Internet. But it still takes a lot of practice to get it right. It took the IRA several years and suffered a lot of "own goals" [where bomb-makers were killed by their own bombs] before they became proficient in using explosives. They were in the IRA for life and learned their skills over many years. They had a proper training program where each engineer passed on their knowledge to others in a classroom, within families, and within the republican community, as well as from previous campaigns and Irish and British military sources of expertise.

Sure and wouldn't you and your google expertise know better than the people actually involved? Silly me.

Yeah me not being half Irish with loads of Irish relatives, yes silly me Tess.
My family come from Donegal on my mothers side, and you think I am not familiar with such things?

Behave

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:56 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
Didge wrote:

There you go then, so if you advocate for some things not to be there, you have no counter to the point Eddie made, because you advocate the same as her wanting some things not on there

Contradiction alert

Idiot...what part of "where do you draw the line" do you not understand....

My point was not on drawing the line dummy but your contradiction as seen.

You either advocate no censorship of you advocate censorship dummy, it is that simple

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:57 pm

eddie wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:

yeah...lets crush all knowledge of anything remotely dangerous out of existence, perhaps we can replace it with muffin the mule....
lets all live in a cotton wool padded cell being fed repulsive political doctrines of "kid glove dictatorship" whilst being told how good it is for us....

HAHAHAHAHA I don't like muffin the mule

Seriously vic, you think it's ok to leave these vids up for all to see?

yup...

If we go down THAT line then the "didges" of this world would have all knowledge post stone age crushed out of existence because it "might" be dangerous.

I ask again where do you draw the line...and who has the say in that???

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:59 pm

Didge wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:

Idiot...what part of "where do you draw the line" do you not understand....

My point was not on drawing the line dummy but your contradiction as seen.

You either advocate no censorship of you advocate censorship dummy, it is that simple

now i know you are a prize prat...its NOT black and white, yes or no

It's shades of grey...

one can be "for" limited censorship...

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:59 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
eddie wrote:

HAHAHAHAHA I don't like muffin the mule

Seriously vic, you think it's ok to leave these vids up for all to see?

yup...

If we go down THAT line then the "didges" of this world would have all knowledge post stone age crushed out of existence because it "might" be dangerous.

I ask again where do you draw the line...and who has the say in that???

Some one is upset again, ha ha ha ha ha

I never advocate having history censured, showing how poorly you keep making up lies all the time, the actions of an adult who acts like a child, again grown up, by your age you should have by now

Common sense on censorship, like for example having videos of bomb making is a no brainer, in that it should not be accessible.

by eddie Sat May 31, 2014 7:01 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
eddie wrote:

HAHAHAHAHA I don't like muffin the mule

Seriously vic, you think it's ok to leave these vids up for all to see?

yup...

If we go down THAT line then the "didges" of this world would have all knowledge post stone age crushed out of existence because it "might" be dangerous.

I ask again where do you draw the line...and who has the say in that???

Well I could outline a very simple line that we could draw ....

It's illegal to blow people up and you can't buy bombs over the counter, so videos showing how to make them shouldn't be allowed online where stupid kids and numbskulls can get a hold of them!
That's it simplified vic.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:01 pm

well actually we couldnt have muffin the mule...the PC "didge brigade" would sooner or later realise the "muffin" could be taken two ways, decide that that is refering to a "JD" act with a mule and rename it to something "harmless"

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:01 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
Didge wrote:

My point was not on drawing the line dummy but your contradiction as seen.

You either advocate no censorship of you advocate censorship dummy, it is that simple

now i know you are a prize prat...its NOT black and white, yes or no

It's shades of grey...

one can be "for" limited censorship...

Irrelevant, you either are for no censorship of you advocate censorship.

You advocate for censorship, how much is a different argument all together.

So it seems you are the idiot again here

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:03 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:well actually we couldnt have muffin the mule...the PC "didge brigade" would sooner or later realise the "muffin" could be taken two ways, decide that that is refering to a "JD" act with a mule and rename it to something "harmless"

Again more childishness, seriously, am starting top really laugh at you again, which is even funnier because you yourself advocate censorship .

I am not one for PC either, showing again you are a right dummy

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:04 pm

eddie wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:

yup...

If we go down THAT line then the "didges" of this world would have all knowledge post stone age crushed out of existence because it "might" be dangerous.

I ask again where do you draw the line...and who has the say in that???

Well I could outline a very simple line that we could draw ....

It's illegal to blow people up and you can't buy bombs over the counter, so videos showing how to make them shouldn't be allowed online where stupid kids and numbskulls can get a hold of them!
That's it simplified vic.

yup and then next week we can decide that diy repairs to cars are "dangerous" and ban all books and internet references to "repair your car" or "the home mechanic"

and then we can decide that too many people are being injured in "gardening accidents"...and remove "practical gardener" from the shelves of W H Smiths....

etc etc etc etc

who watches the watcher?

by Ben Reilly Sat May 31, 2014 7:06 pm

Tesstacious wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:I wouldnt worry, according to didge its diffcult to obtain the chemicals to make explosives ://?roflmao?/:
There does seem to be a crackdown. I usually buy hydrogen peroxide to treat any wounds on the horses, but the last time I went to buy some, three separate chemists wouldn't sell it - one asked me what I wanted it for... as if I look like a feckin terrorist! Having said that, there are plenty of fertilizers and stuff around, easy if you know how........

Terrorists can look like anybody.

Terrorist:

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Terrorist:

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Terrorist:

Another terrorist attack in the UK Lindh_1

by eddie Sat May 31, 2014 7:06 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
eddie wrote:

Well I could outline a very simple line that we could draw ....

It's illegal to blow people up and you can't buy bombs over the counter, so videos showing how to make them shouldn't be allowed online where stupid kids and numbskulls can get a hold of them!
That's it simplified vic.

yup and then next week we can decide that diy repairs to cars are "dangerous" and ban all books and internet references to "repair your car" or "the home mechanic"

and then we can decide that too many people are being injured in "gardening accidents"...and remove "practical gardener" from the shelves of W H Smiths....

etc etc etc etc

who watches the watcher?

It isn't illegal to repair your car, garden, or anything else!
It is illegal to blow someone up though.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:07 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
eddie wrote:

Well I could outline a very simple line that we could draw ....

It's illegal to blow people up and you can't buy bombs over the counter, so videos showing how to make them shouldn't be allowed online where stupid kids and numbskulls can get a hold of them!
That's it simplified vic.

yup and then next week we can decide that diy repairs to cars are "dangerous" and ban all books and internet references to "repair your car" or "the home mechanic"

and then we can decide that too many people are being injured in "gardening accidents"...and remove "practical gardener" from the shelves of W H Smiths....

etc etc etc etc

who watches the watcher?

Wow, so you now equate bomb making to diy repairs?

Woe

Seriously that is a no brainer and a non argument before it starts

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:07 pm

Didge wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:well actually we couldnt have muffin the mule...the PC "didge brigade" would sooner or later realise the "muffin" could be taken two ways, decide that that is refering to a "JD" act with a mule and rename it to something "harmless"

Again more childishness, seriously, am starting top really laugh at you again, which is even funnier because you yourself advocate censorship .

I am not one for PC either, :aspffftas: showing again you are a right dummy

no didge you are being a pillock again....what part of limited escapes your single celled cerebrum? (and I do mean limited....very limited)

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:09 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
Didge wrote:

Again more childishness, seriously, am starting top really laugh at you again, which is even funnier because you yourself advocate censorship .

I am not one for PC either, : showing again you are a right dummy

no didge you are being a pillock again....what part of limited escapes your single celled cerebrum? (and I do mean limited....very limited)

No you are the idiot, you advocate censorship, thus contradicting yourself, because the view to argue for or against is very different to the levels of censorship.

The fact you equate bomb making to DIY was absurd, when DIY is not illegal as Eddie said.

Seriously I think you really have issues

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:10 pm

The point is once you start advancing the cloud of censorship, those who hold the reins of power WILL misuse it..

start with bombs...which might be "reasonable" and then let it roll forward...after all imagine how much MORE money it would make their friends in "trades"

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