Jeremy Corbyn is slammed for backing 'Iran-supporting propaganda group' run by firebrand leaders who blamed Grenfell on 'Zionists' and say the West is 'the enemy'

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Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has been criticised over his support of an Iran-supporting campaign group whose leaders have blamed the Grenfell Tower fire on 'Zionists' and praised Ayatollah Khomeini.

The Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC), based in north-west London, insists it produces research papers on 'hate crime and discrimination' and is registered to give immigration advice.

But an investigation by The Times published this morning reports a number of alarming comments made by the group's leaders, praising the repressive leadership of Iran and branding the West 'the enemy'.

It comes after a separate report by the thinktank The Henry Jackson Society found the group have received more than £1million from a charity called the IHRC Trust since 2013, including £250,000 in taxpayer-funded gift aid.

In a video published the IHRC in 2010, Jeremy Corbyn is filmed lavishing praise on the group, saying it challenges the idea that human rights are a European idea.

In the video, he says: 'I like the concept that the Islamic Human Rights Commission represents all that's best in Islam concerning the rights of individuals to free expression, to peaceful assembly and the rights of individuals in society.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7557865/Jeremy-Corbyn-slammed-backing-pro-Iran-campaign-group.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top


It is no wonder he is the mosty unpopular opposition leader in history and he insults the very Iranian women seeking humanism and equality in iran

https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1182682142003924992

https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1182676946930548737

Victorismyhero wrote:ah you are a lib dem huh....right ...a pink washed tory then?
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So says the same dirt-ignorant twat who has previously labelled centre-right politicians like Angela Merkel as "left wing", socialists/communists, and even "Marxists" on occasion..

We all know which way Vic bats.
He was probably wearing a black hoodie emblazoned with a 'no respect' logo whilst raising his arm in Sophia on Monday.
Everyone left of Atilla the Hun is a 'lefty'.
He is trying to emulate and replace Major Stormee.

Your such a prick Andy, why not have a day off sometime ?

OK...I'll take my mod hat off for this thread....
BEN and EDDIE...you have power of discretion on this one.......


No andy unlike you anti Semitic lefties and your cohorts...you cannot accuse me of racism or anti gay or anything like that.....Granted I'm a nationalist and would seek a moritorium on immigration except to fill vital skills gaps but I have never even supported a "send em home" policy, prefering instead a "well if they are here then they are here, but no more" approach, even to the point of an amnesty for "illegals".
I might well be R/W in many respects, but unlike you, an ignorant, uneducated, and uninformed lefty, I DO have an education..(and by education i do NOT mean a plastic "degree" like your other lefty vulture) I mean educated as in well informed and tutored in many many things and as such would require any R/W govt to ALSO be humane and proper in its application of whatever laws it sought to introduce.

I have ideas to deal with a lot of the problems we have, that would solve them rather than merely making rich men richer, whereas YOU only have solutions that would result in making merely "comfortably well off" people poor.

You...support dependency on the state and lack of responsibility
YOU support criminal sympathy rather than support for victims and accountability for the criminal.
YOU would take the well to do mans home off him rather than provide decent cheap homes for those who need help then pat yourself on the back and say didnt we do well...DESPITE the fact that the poor man STILL didnt have a home


You are a cowardly, whingeing, childish left wing dog, that doesnt even have the courage of your own convictions, else you would own corbyn and stick with labour, at least in the hope they will reform, instead you jump into bed with the libdem no hopes, who are , as i have said before nothing but pink washed tories....

Furthermore you gutless snivelling worm, you abuse members on here who have served their country, prepared to make the ultimate sacrifice for YOUR safety if called on to do so, you abuse anyone whos ideas dont fall into line with your ideals, try to silence members with your abuse (vis your abusive post in tommys thread about that stabbing, which was not relevant or needful, since his post was merely information not opinion to be diagreed with

THEN you cry "victim" when you get it back....

and wolfie is no better......

And people wonder why this place is a ghost town nowadays.

Andy wrote:And people wonder why this place is a  ghost town nowadays.

Boo Hoo I'm a victim, he cries.....

see what I mean.......

DONT hand it out if you cant take it back.....

and, I note you do not challenge any of it....

just remember...YOU attacked ME first in this thread....
Seems to me you wish to abuse with impunity and without reply

Andy wrote:And people wonder why this place is a  ghost town nowadays.

andy, no offence meant but you do have a tendency to make posts about posters rather than the content of posts

you do that frequently

is it necessary?

andy, why don't you and the decent members of labour party try to stop corbyn turning it into a shitfest.

you must admit it's now been taken over by extremists

and anyone who votes for brexit will now be deselected

i know you've now decided to join libdems

why?

Because I am a signed up member of the LibDem party, a thing that prompted ridicule from Vic.
I disowned Corbyn a long time ago, th Labour party needs a new leader such as Cooper, Starmer, David Miliband, Hilary Benn or even Dan Jarvis.
But I DONT bang on endlessly smearing him on multiple threads..I asked dodgy Dodge why he didn't start a Corbyn vent thread as I did with Boris and Lurker did with Trump .
But he is happier just spamming. Which is a huge turn off, and goes some way to explaining why so many have deserted.

Andy wrote:
I disowned Corbyn a long time ago, th Labour party needs a new leader such as Cooper, Starmer, David Miliband, Hilary Benn or even Dan Jarvis.

sure, and I understand why.

but deserting the party is a whole new thing

would you then go back if a new leader took over?

why do you think the lib dems are the ones to follow?

Because I am a staunch remainer firstly.
Labour even now don't know whether they are remain or leave with a deal.
The Tory party is split between the ERG, who are funded by Hedge funders who stand to make billions from a hard no deal Brexit, and the more moderate and sensible Tory MPs, many of whom have been binned, who want pretty much a remain of good deal.
Brexit party under Farage are mainly millionaires or xenophobic nationalists who want a return to the British Empire of 100 years ago.

If Labour lose the next GE, Corbyn, McDonnell and the hard left will lose their positions, after which they need a new leader, a new purpose and a new direction.
They did it with John Smithoth, then Blair, in the next 18 months they will become a powerful party.

'Wolfie wrote:

nicko wrote:Your as thick as shit Andy, most have left because of left wing scum like you and Wolfie !
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Stop spouting your constant and ignorant lies,  flicko.

Only two or three right-whinger contributors are MIA at the moment,  sure to return when their holidays are over..

Most of those who have left have actually been left leaning --  usually chased away by regular badgering and bullying by the likes of you, Victor, Dodge, smelly', Fred, HT, Nems, FTL...

That's rich coming from the playground bully whose obscene misogynistic comments have driven so many decent female posters from this place.

And isn't it time you updated the default catalogue of your fanciful far-Right intimidators, many of whom hardly post here any more largely because of your own and Andy's foot stamping hissy fits every time your loony rants are challenged?

They left as a result of Eddies obscene and obnoxious comments about the murdered autistic kid named Nora.
But why let facts get in the way.

Andy wrote:Because I am a staunch remainer firstly.
Labour even now don't know whether they are remain or leave with a deal.
The Tory party is split between the ERG, who are funded by Hedge funders who stand to make billions from a hard no deal Brexit, and the more moderate and sensible Tory MPs, many of whom have been binned, who want pretty much a remain of good deal.
Brexit party under Farage are mainly millionaires or xenophobic nationalists who want a return to the British Empire of 100 years ago.

If Labour lose the next GE, Corbyn, McDonnell and the hard left will lose their positions, after which they need a new leader, a new purpose and a new direction.
They did it with John Smithoth, then Blair, in the next 18 months they will become a powerful party.

i agree with much of what you say here

why do you think it's so important for us to remain in the EU?


labour need a new leader and new purpose like NOW. 18 months in politics is like an eternity. there is no viable opposition right now

also if as we are constantly being told, the UK now regrets voting brexit and would much rather stay in the EU, then why are the libdems still at a miserable 16-17%. Swinson has made it quite clear that she would cancel it altogether so why do you think they are not rating much higher?

Because of my 45 year career ( cannot go into detail on a public site) . I know beyond reasonable doubt that leaving will cause immense and lasting damage to he UK, not least the probable break up of the UNITED Kingdom.

45 years sweeping roads or collecting Bins is not secret work you braggart, And your opinion on what will happen when we leave, and those people you'v slandered make it perfectly clear your a fucking raving communist !

Andy wrote:Because of my 45 year career ( cannot go into detail on a public site) . I know beyond reasonable doubt that leaving will cause immense and lasting damage to he UK, not least the probable break up of the UNITED Kingdom.

what immense and lasting damage?

i dpnt believe scotland would leave, especially if it meant fiscal responsibility.  they wouldnt' survive without English money

not sure about the welsh or irish

does brexit actually have an impact on your career?

What Career, he said on here a few months back he was digging holes for fencing , He's a left wing prick and a liar to boot !

Yes, Scotland WILL leave the UK, and might want to remain the EU, on favourable terms Because They can justifiably say they never wanted to leave in the first place.

And my career was spent on the UK frontier. Protecting the realm.

nicko wrote:What Career, he said on here a few months back he was digging holes for fencing , He's a left wing prick and a liar to boot !

Idiot features.
I retired 2 years ago after 45 years in my career. I now do landscape gardening.
Your senility is getting worse..
And it was a far better career than blindly following orders and shooting people.

Your ignorance such that I will leave you to stew in your own Marxist soup ! I can't stand anymore of your filth !

nicko wrote:Your ignorance such that I will leave you to stew in your own Marxist soup ! I can't stand anymore of your filth !

Good.
That allows me to continue a good and respectful political discussion with who  you would call my enemy, Gelico , unhindered without interruption. We are politically opposite probably, but respect each other's view.
Shame you don't.

New YouGov polling for The Times has shown Boris’s Tories soar higher to a 15 point lead, making up more than the Labour and Brexit Party vote shares combined. The ‘Classic Dom’ strategy seems to be working…

Interestingly, the poll found that since July, the Brexit Party vote has fallen by almost two thirds among 2017 Tories, yet only by just 1% among 2017 Labour voters. Now the Brexit Party vote is almost evenly made up of voters who in 2017 went for the Tory (13%) and Labour (8%) parties, meaning it could be an electoral boost to the Tories in the next election, eating away at Labour voters who would never vote Tory. Jack Brereton, the new Tory MP for Stoke-on-Trent South is convinced he would not have won his seat in 2017 if UKIP had not stood against him, taking Labour votes. Meanwhile MPs like Stewart Jackson who UKIP did not stand against lost out by tiny margins…

Boris’s personal ratings have climbed higher too, being twice as popular as Corbyn in the Best Prime Minister question, with 43% to Corbyn’s 21%. And for the first time ever, Boris has overtaken Corbyn in all age brackets. Among those aged 18-24, Boris leads by 32 to 29.



https://order-order.com/2019/10/16/tories-storming-ahead-polls/

It shows you how bad Corbyn is for the 18 to 24 to even favour Boris over him
When are Labour going to actually wake up to these polls?

Andy wrote:Because I am a signed up member of the LibDem party, a thing that prompted ridicule from Vic.
I disowned Corbyn a long time ago, th Labour party needs a new leader such as Cooper, Starmer, David Miliband, Hilary Benn or even Dan Jarvis.
But I DONT bang on endlessly smearing him on multiple threads..I asked dodgy Dodge why he didn't start a Corbyn vent thread as I did with  Boris and Lurker did with Trump .
But he is happier just spamming. Which is a huge turn off, and goes some way to explaining why so many have deserted.

I used to have considerable respect for the LibDems and voted for them on a couple of occasions in the past, but sadly they are now neither liberal nor democratic.

Under their new leader Swinson, their policy towards the greatest political issue of the age - Brexit - has been laid out in stark terms: The majority voted the wrong way in 2016. We will now overturn that majority vote, declare it void and remain in the European Union. And you misguided lot will not be given another chance to defy us.

Fred M. wrote:That's rich coming from the playground bully whose obscene misogynistic comments have driven so many decent female posters from this place.

I think they were more likely chased out by sound, left-leaning arguments. The Mean Girls constituted an arch RW bloc. They got into trouble espousing their RW blather about anti-Muslim, anti-black contentions.

The competition is easier on them over on Flap.

Original Quill wrote:

Fred M. wrote:That's rich coming from the playground bully whose obscene misogynistic comments have driven so many decent female posters from this place.

I think they were more likely chased out by sound, left-leaning arguments.  The Mean Girls constituted an arch RW bloc.  They got into trouble espousing their RW blather about anti-Muslim, anti-black contentions.

The competition is easier on them over on Flap.

Calling posters C U N T S and "raddled old hags" can hardly be described as a "sound, left-leaning argument."

And if you think that some of Wolfie's pronouncements are anything other than the barking mad rants of the brainwashed far-Left, then you are in my opinion being commendably tolerant.

+1

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

I think they were more likely chased out by sound, left-leaning arguments.  The Mean Girls constituted an arch RW bloc.  They got into trouble espousing their RW blather about anti-Muslim, anti-black contentions.

The competition is easier on them over on Flap.

Calling posters C U N T S and "raddled old hags" can hardly be described as a "sound, left-leaning argument."

And if you think that some of Wolfie's pronouncements are anything other than the barking mad rants of the brainwashed far-Left, then you are in my opinion being commendably tolerant.

You are confusing words with arguments.  If you only focus on the words, you didn't understand the argument.

Moreover, Wolf was constantly besieged by the Mean Girls.  Many times he showed great restraint.

Bullshit Quill, the ladies did nothing of the kind, Wolfie was being a prick !

Louise Ellman: MP quits Labour over anti-Semitism concerns

MP Louise Ellman has quit the Labour Party, saying Jeremy Corbyn is "not fit" to become prime minister.

The Liverpool Riverside MP said in a letter she had been "deeply troubled" by the "growth of anti-Semitism" in Labour in recent years.

Mrs Ellman, who is Jewish, has been a party member for 55 years but said she "can no longer advocate voting Labour when it risks Corbyn becoming PM".

Labour said it was taking "robust action" to root out anti-Semitism.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50077384

Can't believe Dodge is reporting this.
Highly unusual for him and well out of his comfort zone.

Andy wrote:Can't believe Dodge is reporting this.
Highly unusual for him and well out of his comfort zone.

quick, deflect attack the poster, move on dont look.............

Victor, nicko, Fred --  still suffering under that collective delusion that Corbyn has some lefty/commie/Marxist supporters on here...

Oblivious to the minor fact that nobody has actually come out in any kind of rabid support for Corbyn's faction,  while these three irrationally ironed-on RW twats continue with their Tory loving antics..

It is laughable to see Victor squealing "deflection" so often --  when he himself is the master of unbridled deflection and misdirection on here, forever blaming the lefties, unionists and the unemployed for any little problems he encounters.

+1

You are as thick as Andy Wolfe,,,show where I have blamed unionists ( IF BY THAT YOU MEAN TRADE UNIONIST) FOR ANYTHING , unless their actions are wrongful. ?
And especially, show where I have blamed the unemployed for anything, beyond rightly calling out the professional benefits collectors.

Yes I call the left and here again you provide reason...you as a lefty are a serial liar and fantasist....what you can't find you make up and present as truth, when all the while it's a tissue of lies and rubbish. And you wonder why I dislike the left....with you and andy as prime examples of leftist behaviour is it any wonder?

And for all that you may have a degree that taught you which end of a cow moosm, you clearly have the education of a guttersnipe, and the manners and demeanor of a backwater trollope.

'Wolfie wrote:

Victor, nicko, Fred --  still suffering under that collective delusion that Corbyn has some lefty/commie/Marxist supporters on here...

Oblivious to the minor fact that nobody has actually come out in any kind of rabid support for Corbyn's faction,  while these three irrationally ironed-on RW twats continue with their Tory loving antics..

It is laughable to see Victor squealing "deflection" so often --  when he himself is the master of unbridled deflection and misdirection on here, forever blaming the lefties, unionists and the unemployed for any little problems he encounters.

Really?

Then why does Andy continually have a complete meltdown over me pointing out facts around Corbyn
If Andy is not a supporter. Then why does he continually, as he has throughout here, lose the plot over articles about Corbyn?
If he is not a supporter, he certainly and continually gives a fuck about how Corbyn is being presented here.

Maybe you can explain that Wolf?

You have an OCD obsession about Corbyn.
I bet you have dreams ( nightmares) about him.
It ain't healthy.

Andy wrote:You have an OCD obsession about Corbyn.
I bet you have dreams ( nightmares) about him.
It ain't healthy.

I rest my case Wolf

Not once do you ever see Andy actually condemn Corbyn
He is happy to do with this Trump and I would happilly join him in this
He is happy to cast Boris and i would again happilly join him, but when it comes to Corbyn.
As seen the views around Corbyn are actually outrage, deflection and he attacks posters for posting facts about Corbyn
It proves Andy is a defender of Corbyn
As he continually defends him attacking anyone that is critical of Corbyn

Go figure

Then start a Corbyn vent thread. Then all of your spleen can be vented in 1 place rather than splattered over multiple threads, often as a deflection.
I even have a few funny Corbyn memes.

Andy wrote:Then start a Corbyn vent thread. Then all of your spleen can be vented in 1 place rather than splattered over multiple threads, often as a deflection.
I even have a few funny Corbyn memes.

All you have to do Andy is Condemn the many wrongs of Corbyn
Why is that so hard for you to do?
Instead you kick up a fuss and attack me

Why?

Very little need. You post enough condemnations to satisfy about 3 forums.
I left the Labour party in the summer , chiefly because of Corbyn..I have since joined the Lib dems..
Curiously, your leader, Vic scorns and ridicules posters who don't affiliate with HIS far right party.
Difficult to tell whether that is Conservative, Brexit, UKIP, BNP, Britain First or the National Socialists

Andy wrote:Very little need. You post enough condemnations to satisfy about 3 forums.
I left the Labour party in the summer , chiefly because of Corbyn..I have since joined the Lib dems..
Curiously, your leader, Vic  scorns and ridicules posters who don't affiliate with HIS far right party.
Difficult to tell whether that is Conservative, Brexit, UKIP, BNP, Britain First or the National Socialists

Vic is more left wing than I am
I am not far right and stand against racism on all counts
But then you never had a clue about the political compass
As seen, when asked a direct question around Corbyn, you constantly deflect around me and now Victor
You make poor assumptions onto people when exposed
Ones last try

1) Do you think Corbyn is an apologist for the IRA?

2) Do you think Corbyn has accentuated and promoted antisemitism?

3) Do you think Corbyn has allied himself to antisemitic terrorist groups?

Lets start with these 3 simple questions

Doesnt matter how I answer.
You have made your mind up on Corbyn, and have told us relentlessly for 2 or 3 years. Probably hundreds of threads and thousands of posts..You won't change your mind. Even if I said I would dance on his grave you would still be critical of his burial.

Andy wrote:Doesnt matter how I answer.
You have made your mind up on Corbyn, and have told us relentlessly for 2 or 3 years. Probably hundreds of threads and thousands of posts..You won't change your mind. Even if I said I would dance on his grave you would still be critical of his burial.

And yet you still continually deflect Andy and have a go at me for calling out the wrongs of Corbyn
You even fail to place yourself into a position here of condemning Corbyn and offer excuses. Not to condemn him
I think the country has made their mind up on Corbyn with countless polls showing  him to be the worst opposition leader in history since records began. So I am not alone oin this. Even more so when Labour should be leaps and bounds in the lead based on the record of the tories. That shows its Corbyn hplding Labour back and you are blind to this. What really astounds me is your continual denial to recognise the reality of Corbyn being palls to extremists and terrorists.

So thanks for proving my point. I asked you to condemn him. After many posts, you made countless excuses and dodged doing so

Quelle surprise

phildidge wrote:

Andy wrote:Then start a Corbyn vent thread. Then all of your spleen can be vented in 1 place rather than splattered over multiple threads, often as a deflection.
I even have a few funny Corbyn memes.

All you have to do Andy is Condemn the many wrongs of Corbyn
Why is that so hard for you to do?
Instead you kick up a fuss and attack me

Why?

why does he have to do that?

he has already said he has abandoned labour and joined the libdems

speaks for itself really

Because he is obsessive about Corbyn, Gels. He wont/cannot let it lie.
Even years after Corbyns death will Dodge still be banging on about him.
The chances are the conservatives will sneak in at the next GE, and Corbyn and McDonnell will stand down.
Then Dodge will be properly knackered.

gelico wrote:

phildidge wrote:

All you have to do Andy is Condemn the many wrongs of Corbyn
Why is that so hard for you to do?
Instead you kick up a fuss and attack me

Why?

why does he have to do that?

he has already said he has abandoned labour and joined the libdems

speaks for itself really

Then why does he constantly attack me for posting articles on Corbyn, Gelico?

phildidge wrote:

gelico wrote:


why does he have to do that?

he has already said he has abandoned labour and joined the libdems

speaks for itself really

Then why does he constantly attack me for posting articles on Corbyn, Gelico?

he just said above that he finds you to be obsessive over corbyn

gelico wrote:

phildidge wrote:

Then why does he constantly attack me for posting articles on Corbyn, Gelico?

he just said above that he finds you to be obsessive over corbyn

That is fine if he thinks so

But and here is the big but, why does he constantly deflect from condemning him when Cporbyn is pulled up on wrongs?

Simple question gelico

I asked him to do so here and again he deflected onto me

Maybe you can explain that?