Snap election coming

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Just as the economy has dived into the red.
So we could have a recession, a vote of no confidence, a no deal Brexit , a new or different government, and WTO terms that could destroy the economy all with a two week period at the end of October.
I think the description OMNISHAMBOLIC CLUSTERFUCK OF MONUMENTAL PROPORTIONS is pretty fair.
Cummings, Aaron Banks, Farage and Boris stand to make a few bucks from stripping our assets.
No 10 cancels staff leave, hinting at likelihood of snap election

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/09/no-10-cancels-staff-leave-raising-possibility-of-snap-election?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

We have a few wuckfits here too.

A picture tells a thousand words.

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don't have words to describe how despicable you are, I can only say your not fit to breath British air, you are SCUM Sir and I have no wish to converse with you any further . Goodbye and good luck with your Labour arse licking.

Success. The next 5 years are going to be a fucking misery for you and your rw cronies, especially when we get a strong Labour/LibDem/Green/SNP coalition government, whilst  the Tories and the  Brexit party flounder.
And I shall no longer be Mr Nice guy after 10 years of austerity, racism and hatred of the poor and the sick from this nasty party.
At least the Tories with a semblance of. honour and decency stood up to be counted, including Churchill's Grandson.

And cheer up, you can always get some trolling debate and lively banter on your other site with The Devil You Know, Fatbob and Smelly..

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1564312/Labours-promises-on-an-EU-referendum.html


https://www.libdemvoice.org/the-surprising-truth-about-that-lib-dem-inout-eu-referendum-leaflet-32686.html



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15390884

Too dull to make any comment on the links you post, or are you waiting to pounce on those that o?

Andy wrote:Too dull to make any comment on the links you post, or are you waiting to pounce on those that o?

Lefties = promise to let the people decide.


But as seen in my above posts... the lefties weaseled out of giving the people the say...!


Lefties = promise to do what the people want.

People = vote to leave the EU!

Lefties = Do everything they can to stop the democratic will of the people (as in the 2016 referendum) being enacted!


Again weaseling out of delivering on the democratic will of the people!!!

For over 2 years Corbin has been shouting for a General Election, now there's a chance of one he's changed his tiny mind. why ? Because he realises he'd lose it !

There will be no NO DEAL Brexit.
The HoL will sign off the bill this afternoon.
The options for Boris are limited.
.He has to go back to Brussels and ask for an extension during which a deal can be negotiated.
During that extension, Boris will have to call for a GE as he has a minority of 21 in the Commons, as a result of him listening to his alcoholic and rancid advisor Cummings.
Depending on the result, we will leave under the Tories with a deal, or
have  Labour with another referendum , then move on from that result

Boris has been beaten by his own arrogance , stupidity, obstinency and his dependence on the unelected Cummings.

Corbyn seems to have played a blinder.

That is evident from the headlines, Photoshop and smears from the Mail, Express and Scum, whilst the broadsheets generally slaughter Boris for his incompetence.

http://news.sky.com/story/lords-clear-way-for-anti-no-deal-brexit-bill-after-government-climbdown-11802448

Brexit: Lords agree to push through bill preventing no deal by end of Friday

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/05/brexit-lords-agree-to-push-through-bill-preventing-no-deal-by-end-of-friday?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

56 MPs voted against a general election tonight - search full results

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/56-mps-voted-against-general-19514748#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare

You Tories and further right wingers can bleat and bitch and pontificate  all you like, but you are losing, you won't get your own way, and you are simply going to have to accept that.
Don't like it, tough shit.

Why wont Corbin agree to a General Election ? He's been shouting for one for more than 2 years. Answer, he knows he will lose, thank God !

Because Johnson is a proven, serial liar who cannot be trusted. Even half of his own party, including his own brother don't trust him.
Corbyn wants an absolute assurance there will be a deal.
That will require an extension to article 50.
Get the extension agreed, then go to the country after Christmas.

Careful Andy ,your starting to Spam, put a joke in now and again ,like Lurker !

Someone has to keep the site going.
You rw Brexiteers are understandably quiet and rather embarrassed by Boris and Cummings destroying your party before your very eyes.
Reporting in the Brexit Express that Boris is on the verge of stepping down.
We can only hope.

nicko wrote:I
don't have words to describe how despicable you are, I can only say your not fit to breath British air, you are SCUM Sir and I have no wish to converse with you any further . Goodbye and good luck with your Labour arse licking.

That is not fresh British air sir, but a lethal gas coming from BoJo's ass. The scum is...well, modesty prevents me.

Andy wrote:You rw Brexiteers are understandably quiet and rather embarrassed by Boris and Cummings destroying your party before your very eyes.

They are "on the run" is a more apt way to put it. It's the same over here with Republicans. After they have had their shitfest and clusterfuck, the Democrats have to clean up.

Your shitfest and clusterfuck is BREXIT...good luck.

Thanks for the good wishes mate, I appreciate it !

nicko wrote:Thanks for the good wishes mate,  I appreciate it !

Thank you...an honest assessment is a valuable gift, innit?

Andy wrote:Because Johnson is a proven, serial liar who cannot be trusted. Even half of his own party, including his own brother don't trust him.
Corbyn wants an absolute assurance there will be a deal.
That will require an extension to  article 50.
Get the extension agreed, then go to the country after  Christmas.

The only deal that the EU are proposing is totally unacceptable to the UK...!!!


They are saying that they are not going to offer anything else!!!


Therefore... we must leave the EU on WTO trade terms!!!

This is how fukked up labour are...


Emily thornberry on question time...


She was asked if labour win an election and she was then tasked with striking a new proposed deal with the EU...


Would she then be campaigning to get support for her new proposed deal... or would she be campaigning to remain in the EU...?


The idiot said that she would be campaigning against her own proposed deal with the EU... and campaigning to remain!!!


What a twat!!!

and the last two posts are why we dont want the eu lefty's and whi I personally despise the "typical" lefty


just WHO? is it that started with the personal flame wars????

oh thats right....wolfie and andy....

cretins...

and why the left cause wars....lefty intolerance....

Andy wrote:Success. The next 5 years are going to be a fucking misery for you and your rw cronies, especially when we get a strong Labour/LibDem/Green/SNP coalition government, whilst  the Tories and the  Brexit party flounder.
And I shall no longer be Mr Nice guy after 10 years of austerity, racism and hatred of the poor and the sick from this nasty party.
At least the Tories with a semblance of. honour and decency stood up to be counted, including Churchill's Grandson.

And cheer up, you can always get some trolling debate and lively banter on your other site with The Devil You Know, Fatbob and Smelly..

Churchill's grandson...!?


What about Hillary Benns father???


Tony Benn...?


Long standing and high ranking labour MP... COMPLETELY AGAINST THE EU!!!


But none of this matters... because the british people decided that the UK must leave the EU!!!


DEMOCRACY HAS SPOKEN!!!


DEMOS KRATOS!!!


LEAVE MEANS LEAVE!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:

Andy wrote:Success. The next 5 years are going to be a fucking misery for you and your rw cronies, especially when we get a strong Labour/LibDem/Green/SNP coalition government, whilst  the Tories and the  Brexit party flounder.
And I shall no longer be Mr Nice guy after 10 years of austerity, racism and hatred of the poor and the sick from this nasty party.
At least the Tories with a semblance of. honour and decency stood up to be counted, including Churchill's Grandson.

And cheer up, you can always get some trolling debate and lively banter on your other site with The Devil You Know, Fatbob and Smelly..

Churchill's grandson...!?

What about Hillary Benns father???

Tony Benn...?

Long standing and high ranking labour MP... COMPLETELY AGAINST THE EU!!!

But none of this matters... because the british people decided that the UK must leave the EU!!!

DEMOCRACY HAS SPOKEN!!!

DEMOS KRATOS!!!

LEAVE MEANS LEAVE!!!

Democracy seems to be asleep right now. Guess they lost their enthusiasm.

Frankly, I don't think it's ever going to happen. No one is against it, but no one is for it either.

Victorismyhero wrote:and the last two posts are why we dont want the eu lefty's and whi I personally despise the "typical" lefty


just WHO? is it that started with the personal flame wars????

oh thats right....wolfie and andy....

cretins...

and why the left cause wars....lefty intolerance....

What "flame wars" would that be, then  ?

I didn't make any personal attacks in here --  all I did was report that BJ was "sacking" 21 MPs..

Then again, I s'pose some of you ironed-on conservatives take any negative mention of your beloved Tories' bumbling mismanagement personally.

Victorismyhero wrote:and the last two posts are why we dont want the eu lefty's and whi I personally despise the "typical" lefty


just WHO? is it that started with the personal flame wars????

oh thats right....wolfie and andy....

cretins...

and why the left cause wars....lefty intolerance....

Boris and Cummings started the flame wars.

And you don't one lefties and centrists because you support the far right, are biased and are regarded amongst forum ( here and other sites) world as a crap moderator.

What other sites ?

Andy wrote:

Victorismyhero wrote:and the last two posts are why we dont want the eu lefty's and whi I personally despise the "typical" lefty


just WHO? is it that started with the personal flame wars????

oh thats right....wolfie and andy....

cretins...

and why the left cause wars....lefty intolerance....

Boris and Cummings started the flame wars.

And you don't one lefties and centrists because you support the far right, are biased and are regarded amongst forum ( here and other sites) world as a crap moderator.

Not many regard Vic as a crap moderator, Andy. Certainly not this Lefty. He has always been absolutely fair in his punishments to both Left and Right.

He is also far from Far-Right (have you ever read his economic policy? He makes Corbyn seem like an arch-Capitalist ).

I may disagree with his attitude toward modern Liberalism, but he is fair and probably the best actual moderator on here.

nicko wrote:What other sites  ?

Ones that you are not invited to , nor would be welcome. I am sure you wouldn't want to debate in the Labour party or rabid communist forums I post on as well as here.
In the same way as I wouldn't want to debate on the other site you post o n, the floppy one, where I won't be invited to (re)join .

I didn't know there was Communist/ Marxist Forum !

nicko wrote:I didn't know there was Communist/ Marxist Forum !

Isn't it called Momentum?

Andy wrote:

nicko wrote:What other sites  ?

Ones that you are not invited to , nor would be welcome. I am sure you wouldn't want to debate in the Labour party or  rabid communist forums I post on as well as here.
In the same way as I wouldn't want to debate on the other site you post o n, the floppy one, where I won't be invited to (re)join .

Andy, you really are unhealthily fixated by and maniacally obsessed with the other place, aren't you? The political leanings of the forum owner were and never have been any secret - just the opposite, in fact. And why not? Is he not just as entitled to express and promote his political views as strongly as you do here?

You have admitted elsewhere to contributing to Labour and rabid Communist (your words) sites: That is you inalienable right and no-one, so far as I can see, is challenging it. I'm certainly not.

So why in the name of all that's holy do you drone on and on about t'other place, abusing and condemning those who post there and eternally complaining that your attempts to get back in have been rejected?

After all, didn't you and at least two other former posters do all in your power to get it shut down, and in a manner that could best be described as spiteful.

Are you so afraid of what its posters believe and say?

I think that The Devil You Know will confirm that I have never asked to return to his site.
Why would anyone?

And the exodus continues.


Tory MPs Michael Fallon and Claire Perry quit with ‘TEN more set to follow this weekend’ plunging Boris’ election plans into further chaos

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/9877155/tory-mps-michael-fallon-and-claire-perry-quit/

At this rate there will only be a few Conservatives left before the GE.

I don’t know many left wingers who like Corbyn. He is a bit of a joke. A toss-up between Boris and Corbyn?

I’d prefer Mr Bean.

eddie wrote:I don’t know many left wingers who like Corbyn. He is a bit of a joke. A toss-up between Boris and Corbyn?

I’d prefer Mr Bean.  

It's sad that the British public's choices are Boris Trump and a guy who seems like just another Putin puppet. I would seriously support Adam from Tesco's before either of them. Blue Coins for Everyone!

Which is precisely why Jo Swinson and the lib dems are attracting so many defectors, both from Labour and the Tories.
I suspect by the time we get to an election, they will have doubled their number of MP's.
They seem to be a broad church of remainers. And their policies are crystal clear.

gelico wrote:

Andy wrote:Don't you watch the news Geli?
The far right is on the move, in Germany, Austria, Hungary, Poland, Italy, and even here in the UK.
But because most of the press in the UK is owned by rw billionaires, it doesn't get much publicity.

but you were talking about here in the UK, Andy

how is wanting to leave a corrupt dictatorship like the EU far right?

it doesn't make any sense

It's nationalism. Fits in quite well with xenophobia and tribal instincts, always part of the platform with RW'ers.

We all want an Election, but Corbin is too Chicken , he knows he'll lose ! [after calling for one for two years]

So dull, you cannot even spell his name correctly.

Fucking hell ,is that all you can answer with ? Pathetic twat ! After the hundreds of thousands who died to keep our country free ,you want to give it away to the EU ? And please answer this question without waffle !

He never answered did he, never will I suppose !

I am too busy being Putin's special advisor.
Apparently.

That's NOT an answer Andy, that's just more waffle.

I'll try again, Thousands of Britains died to keep our country free, yes ? Yet you want to give away our freedom to the EU , yes our no ?

You know that is a loaded question . We already are an independent country which makes its own laws, has a secure border, it's own government and its own currency.
We benefit from the EU by way of free trade , free movement of people, peace in Eireland and NI, Intel sharing etc etc , etc.
And you want to give all that away!

We are not an independent country while we are in the EU... 70% of our laws are dictated by the EU... we don't have a secure border either while in the EU...


We don't have free trade cos it costs us billions every year, and restricts our ability to beneficial free trade with other countries... and free movement of people has massively driven up costs of living and congestion, while holding down wages here... plus it allows in dangerous foreign criminals and undermines our safety and security.


And you obviously know nothing about recent terrorism in NI by IRA linked groups...


We voted leave to restore democracy.

Your 70% is unsubstantiated and probably fake figures issued by Brexiteers. It could be as low as 13%.
BBC News - Reality Check: How much UK law comes from the EU?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36473105
Now post your evidence.

Viviane Reading...

Viviane Adélaïde Reding is a Luxembourgish politician and a former Member of the European Parliament from Luxembourg. She is a member of the Christian Social People's Party, part of the European People's Party.

Can't believe a word the Brussels Broadcasting Company says now ,they are payed millions by the EU to push their policies on us !

Andy has run away from the truth yet again...

Tommy Monk wrote:

Andy has run away from the truth yet again...

Wanker.

Why would I run away from a cowardly Nazi like you?