London violence: Four killed including heavily pregnant woman in 24 hours of bloodshed on the capital's streets

Heavily pregnant woman, 26, stabbed to death in Croydon - her baby survived but is in critical condition in hospital

Just before 6pm on Saturday, a man was injured in a fight in Coldharbour lane in Brixton and later died 

A man in his 20s was stabbed to death in Newham just after 11pm last night

An 18-year-old died after being stabbed in Southwark in the small hours of Sunday morning

The deaths take the number of people killed in violence in London in 2019 up to 64

STEPHANIE COCKROFT  ASHER MCSHANE Sunday 30 June 2019 14:54

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Victim: Kellymary Fauvrelle, 26 ( )

Four people have died in the space of just over 24 hours in a series of violent attacks across London. 

A heavily pregnant woman was stabbed to death in the small hours of Saturday morning. Her baby is in critical condition after an emergency procedure at the scene of the stabbing in Croydon.

Around 15 hours later, a man was injured during a fight in Coldharbour lane in Brixton, and died hours later. Just after 11pm last night another man was stabbed to death in a street in Newham.

Then, in the small hours of Sunday morning, an 18-year-old died after a stabbing in Southwark.

Another man is critically injured after a stabbing when an out-of-control rave at a north London housing estate turned violent , with riot police deployed to disperse hundreds of people who had gathered at the scene.

Heavily pregnant woman who was stabbed to death named as second arrest made

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/london-violence-four-killed-including-heavily-pregnant-woman-in-24hour-bloodbath-on-the-capitals-a4178836.html?amp

This was two weekends ago...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9310353/london-shooting-teen-fighting-for-life/



And the weekend before...

"...a weekend of bloodshed, which saw three others killed on the streets in separate attacks in less than 24 hours..."

Tommy Monk wrote:Heavily pregnant woman, 26, stabbed to death in Croydon - her baby survived but is in critical condition in hospital

These are just Tory politicians breaking up with their girlfriends.

Incidentally, does it make a difference in the sentence if the woman is 'lightly pregnant'?

Original Quill wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Heavily pregnant woman, 26, stabbed to death in Croydon - her baby survived but is in critical condition in hospital

These are just Tory politicians breaking up with their girlfriends.

What a sick, vile comment. What is wrong with you?

Every stabbing fatality is horrendous, but the 8 months pregnant woman stabbed to death, and her baby in a critical condition....it's just too unbelievable to contemplate what kind of man could do that to a woman.



https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/30/uk/pregnant-woman-fatally-stabbed-croydon-london-intl-gbr/index.html

Raggamuffin wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

These are just Tory politicians breaking up with their girlfriends.

What a sick, vile comment. What is wrong with you?

He's trying to be clever. That's how world famous lawyers roll.

Syl wrote:Every stabbing fatality is horrendous, but the 8 months pregnant woman stabbed to death, and her baby in a critical condition....it's just too unbelievable to contemplate what kind of man could do that to a woman.



https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/30/uk/pregnant-woman-fatally-stabbed-croydon-london-intl-gbr/index.html

It's usually someone they are or have dated.

It's a shame, no doubt.

Yes it usually is.

Original Quill wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Heavily pregnant woman, 26, stabbed to death in Croydon - her baby survived but is in critical condition in hospital

These are just Tory politicians breaking up with their girlfriends.

Incidentally, does it make a difference in the sentence if the woman is 'lightly pregnant'?

I suppose that it's no use my recalling, old chap, that it was the far Left Momentum faction that resorted to harassment, intimidation, threats including "social" media death and rape threats, and actual violence against their own party members who were opposed to the imposition, er, election of the avowed Marxist Jeremy Corbyn as Leader of the once great British Labour Party?

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

These are just Tory politicians breaking up with their girlfriends.

Incidentally, does it make a difference in the sentence if the woman is 'lightly pregnant'?

I suppose that it's no use my recalling, old chap,  that it was the far Left Momentum faction that resorted to harassment, intimidation, threats including "social" media death and rape threats, and actual violence against their own party members who were opposed to the imposition, er, election of the avowed Marxist Jeremy Corbyn as Leader of the once great British Labour Party?

Nonsense.  Tories are the ones how have extramarital affairs with great frequency.

Original Quill wrote:

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

These are just Tory politicians breaking up with their girlfriends.

Incidentally, does it make a difference in the sentence if the woman is 'lightly pregnant'?

I suppose that it's no use my recalling, old chap,  that it was the far Left Momentum faction that resorted to harassment, intimidation, threats including "social" media death and rape threats, and actual violence against their own party members who were opposed to the imposition, er, election of the avowed Marxist Jeremy Corbyn as Leader of the once great British Labour Party?

Nonsense.  Tories are the ones how have extramarital affairs with great frequency.  

Why are you politicizing this and making light of these horrific crimes?

You're making an ass of yourself, quite frankly.

He doesn't have to try very hard lately !

ben reilly wrote:

original quill wrote:

nonsense.  tories are the ones how have extramarital affairs with great frequency.  

why are you politicizing this and making light of these horrific crimes?

you're making an ass of yourself, quite frankly.

Wake up, fcs.  You’ve become an arch-conservative.  Why do you make such a big deal over an in-kind response?

Yes, in-kind.  The thread was started to politicize black crime.  The point of the OP...indeed, the point of every thread started by him, is to excoriate and abuse blacks or Muslims...and by contrast elevate his supreme white race.

I can't believe you would fall for that.  It's a very common white supremacist's disparagement of other races.  Look right below...he's got another one going.

I agree with Les' comment in 'Exciting News' (July 1st).  My sentiments exactly.

Quill, are you a Black Muslim ?You never answered that question !

nicko wrote:Quill, are you a Black Muslim ?You never answered that question  !

Still no answer , Your a black Muslim then.
Glad that's settled, it would account for your posts !

Original Quill wrote:

ben reilly wrote:

why are you politicizing this and making light of these horrific crimes?

you're making an ass of yourself, quite frankly.

Wake up, fcs.  You’ve become an arch-conservative.  Why do you make such a big deal over an in-kind response?

Yes, in-kind.  The thread was started to politicize black crime.  The point of the OP...indeed, the point of every thread started by him, is to excoriate and abuse blacks or Muslims...and by contrast elevate his supreme white race.

I can't believe you would fall for that.  It's a very common white supremacist's disparagement of other races.  Look right below...he's got another one going.

I agree with Les' comment in 'Exciting News' (July 1st).  My sentiments exactly.

Well one of the victims was black. The colour of the others, or of the perpetrators, is not stated, so I'm not sure how that fits with your theory.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Wake up, fcs.  You’ve become an arch-conservative.  Why do you make such a big deal over an in-kind response?

Yes, in-kind.  The thread was started to politicize black crime.  The point of the OP...indeed, the point of every thread started by him, is to excoriate and abuse blacks or Muslims...and by contrast elevate his supreme white race.

I can't believe you would fall for that.  It's a very common white supremacist's disparagement of other races.  Look right below...he's got another one going.

I agree with Les' comment in 'Exciting News' (July 1st).  My sentiments exactly.

Well one of the victims was black. The colour of the others, or of the perpetrators, is not stated, so I'm not sure how that fits with your theory.

It's not a theory.  If one of them is black, tommy will try to say all blacks are crime prone. He doesn't distinguish between victim and perp.

The ethnicity/religion of the suspects has not been mentioned.

So quills allegation falls apart!


The baby of the murdered woman has now died too...!

But... don't mention it in case the perpetrators might be black... as that would make you the criminal...!

Tommy Monk wrote:The ethnicity/religion of the suspects has not been mentioned.

So quills allegation falls apart!


The baby of the murdered woman has now died too...!

But... don't mention it in case the perpetrators might be black... as that would make you the criminal...!

Tragic, the baby was named Riley, he clung to life for a few days but as you said, sadly died of his injuries yesterday.

Tommy Monk wrote:The ethnicity/religion of the suspects has not been mentioned.

So quills allegation falls apart!

All you have to do is look at the pictures.

Nice try, tommy.

Original Quill wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:The ethnicity/religion of the suspects has not been mentioned.

So quills allegation falls apart!

All you have to do is look at the pictures.

Nice try, tommy.  

The only picture on the link is of the victim, a young black woman.
Quill, you are the only one on this thread who has demeaned black people....your comment about her murder was horrible.

Syl wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

All you have to do is look at the pictures.

Nice try, tommy.  

The only picture on the link is of the victim, a young black woman.
Quill, you are the only one on this thread who has demeaned black people....your comment about her murder was horrible.

Oh, wake up.  You sound like a Republican politician...No, where...I didn't see that!!



If you clicked on the links, you saw only blacks, blacks, blacks.  Are you trying to disguise and protect tommy's racism?  Gd. luck.

Original Quill wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Wake up, fcs.  You’ve become an arch-conservative.  Why do you make such a big deal over an in-kind response?

Yes, in-kind.  The thread was started to politicize black crime.  The point of the OP...indeed, the point of every thread started by him, is to excoriate and abuse blacks or Muslims...and by contrast elevate his supreme white race.

I can't believe you would fall for that.  It's a very common white supremacist's disparagement of other races.  Look right below...he's got another one going.

I agree with Les' comment in 'Exciting News' (July 1st).  My sentiments exactly.

Well one of the victims was black. The colour of the others, or of the perpetrators, is not stated, so I'm not sure how that fits with your theory.

It's not a theory.  If one of them is black, tommy will try to say all blacks are crime prone.  He doesn't distinguish between victim and perp.

If it's arch-conservative to say that tragic deaths shouldn't be politicized, call me an arch-conservative, then. But I've said the same thing about the wingnuts who come out when children are gunned down in their schools and say it's all a liberal ploy to ban guns, so ....

What the fuck has anyone’s colour got to do with it?
A baby died and so did his mother.

FFS.

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:

The only picture on the link is of the victim, a young black woman.
Quill, you are the only one on this thread who has demeaned black people....your comment about her murder was horrible.

Oh, wake up.  You sound like a Republican politician...No, where...I didn't see that!!



If you clicked on the links, you saw only blacks, blacks, blacks.  Are you trying to disguise and protect tommy's racism?  Gd. luck.

You made your comment in the post about the pregnant woman being stabbed to death, there are no other pics there.
Two men were arrested (not named) they have both now been released.

The photo of the man you show is another victim, I dont see any racism in this thread.

Syl wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Oh, wake up.  You sound like a Republican politician...No, where...I didn't see that!!



If you clicked on the links, you saw only blacks, blacks, blacks.  Are you trying to disguise and protect tommy's racism?  Gd. luck.

You made your comment in the post about the pregnant woman being stabbed to death, there are no other pics there.
Two men were arrested (not named) they have both now been released.

The photo of the man you show is another victim, I dont see any racism in this thread.

Cute. You are evading the point that tommy is posting about black crimes. Black crime here. Black crimes there. Black crimes everywhere.

What a strange thread.

Tommy only ever posts crime related threads where those crimes are committed by "blacks" or "Asians"...

Constant defence of Tommy's rants by the likes of Sly, gelico and Ragga' says as much about them as it does about Tommy..

Is this trumps fault or Brexits fault

I lose track

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Tommy only ever posts crime related threads where those crimes are committed by "blacks" or "Asians"...

Constant defence of Tommy's rants by the likes of Sly, gelico and Ragga' says as much about them as it does about Tommy..

I am discussing this thread no others.
Now crawl back under your stone....fool.

Syl, whether intentionally or not, you are perpetuating the racism put on this site by the person who is known for his racism.

Its a pattern and practice, not limited to a single thread. You, however, are dealing with the trees, and missing the forest.

Wolf is saying you are participating in the pattern and practice, I am saying you simply misunderstand. I'm trying to help you understand.

But both Wolf and I agree that there is a pattern and practice by this instigator. In your refusal to recognize this pattern and practice, there are two answers as to why. Share with me the more righteous path.

Original Quill wrote:Syl, whether intentionally or not, you are perpetuating the racism put on this site by the person who is known for his racism.

Its a pattern and practice, not limited to a single thread.  You, however, are dealing with the trees, and missing the forest.

Wolf is saying you are participating in the pattern and practice, I am saying you simply misunderstand.  I'm trying to help you understand.

But both Wolf and I agree that there is a pattern and practice by this instigator.  In your refusal to recognize this pattern and practice, there are two answers as to why.  Share with me the more righteous path.

Hallelujah brother, Thanks,  but I do already see the light.

I was responding to the posts in this thread, and nowhere have any black people been vilified, you came closest to it when you made a really nasty post about the young pregnant mum who was stabbed to death.

Now in Tommy's other threads I will either agree with him or not. But if he is reporting on topical news stories I will answer with my own opinions, no matter what colour the person in the news story happens to be.

Syl wrote:nowhere have any black people been vilified

.

Forget about victims and perps. The whole thread associates blacks and crime in no uncertain terms. The whole thread (and so many more by this org) vilifies black people.

Like I say, you're behaving like a Republican:  Where?  What children in cages?  I don't see anything.

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:nowhere have any black people been vilified

.  

Forget about victims and perps.  The whole thread associates blacks and crime in no uncertain terms.  The whole thread (and so many more by this org) vilifies black people.

Like I say, you're behaving like a Republican:  Where?  What children in cages?  I don't see anything.

OK, that's your view and you are entitled to it.
Like I said, I was responding to the OP on this thread, not the history of the poster who posted it.

Quill and Wolf agreeing means nothing - if one of them said the moon was made of cheese, the other would agree.

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:nowhere have any black people been vilified

.  

Forget about victims and perps.  The whole thread associates blacks and crime in no uncertain terms.  The whole thread (and so many more by this org) vilifies black people.

Like I say, you're behaving like a Republican:  Where?  What children in cages?  I don't see anything.

i dont think black people need help being villified, they do a good enough job of that on their own.

besides you obvously dont watch uk tv, a while ago there was a former black gang member turned mentor openly saying this is a black cultural problem, trevor phillips openly acknowledges its a black problem

only priviledged white boys like you want to pretend otherwise and thereby allow the cycle to continue. its almost like you enjoy the sight of blacks killing each other and are fearful that talking about it in terms of race and acknowledgining that it is indeed a black probelm will somehow bring an end to the violence.

do you enjoy the sight of dead black teenagers??

black lives matters quill

smelly-bandit wrote:

Original Quill wrote:
.  

Forget about victims and perps.  The whole thread associates blacks and crime in no uncertain terms.  The whole thread (and so many more by this org) vilifies black people.

Like I say, you're behaving like a Republican:  Where?  What children in cages?  I don't see anything.

i dont think black people need help being villified, they do a good enough job of that on their own.

besides you obvously dont watch uk tv, a while ago there was a former black gang member turned mentor openly saying this is a black cultural problem, trevor phillips openly acknowledges its a black problem

only priviledged white boys like you want to pretend otherwise and thereby allow the cycle to continue. its almost like you enjoy the sight of blacks killing each other and are fearful that talking about it in terms of race and acknowledgining that it is  indeed a black probelm will somehow bring an end to the violence.

do you enjoy the sight of dead black teenagers??  

black lives matters quill

So by your reasoning Far right violence is a white problem>?????

Do you see how really dumb that is to claim, and it is what the interesctionality crowd claim around how whiteness is a problem and how all white people are endemic of this problem. Do you see how you are in fact using the same poor arguments that the far left intersectionality people use.

What their certainly is a problem with is a gang culture problem, with stabbings. Which is predominant in both the poor lower  class black, white, asian coimmunities in this country. More so with young boys from broken homes, which are more so black kids. Which in this case happens more in areas that have levels of relative poverty. Its the gang culture that draws on young men, who are easily influenced as to basically sway them to crime. If it was simple a black problem, then only blacks would be involved but this is not the case. In fact globally its not the case.

Gang violence has been prolific for centuries, but you only see this through a leftist intersectionality lens. That is what I find rather ironic

Only uneducated people like you smelly look at everything in black and white, which again is irnoic, as this is what the interscetionality brigade also do. Neither of you get to the core of what causes this violence. Yes more black kids are drawn to drugs and crime, which has many factors which contribute to this. You and the far left dont ever look to resolve these problems but instead use this to further divide society through a racial lens.

In fact you both fuel off this to promote a racist agenda. The far left is as racist as the far right and only ever look to promote their political agenda.

I mean this problem has gone on for years with gangs and everytime the authorities, as you do, get it completely wrong. As you fail to see what is actually fueling these gangs, the criminality of drugs itself.

So if anyone starts a thread about a black person who's a victim, that means they're racist? Can someone explain that?

Raggamuffin wrote:So if anyone starts a thread about a black person who's a victim, that means they're racist? Can someone explain that?

Is that what really matters here, seriously? Some woke poster called Quill, who is as racist as smelly in thinking?

Both are wrong in their view points, because they are politically motivated to divide people by their extreme views on race

None of them care about actually tackling the problems of gang culture with knife crime. Its only about using this to promote their racial ideological views.

Have you seen either promote a view to tackle the problems here?

It seems to matter to Quill and Wolfkid.

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Tommy only ever posts crime related threads where those crimes are committed by "blacks" or "Asians"...

Constant defence of Tommy's rants by the likes of Sly, gelico and Ragga' says as much about them as it does about Tommy..

What do your posts say about you?



Oh yes, they say that you're a moron.

Raggamuffin wrote:It seems to matter to Quill and Wolfkid.

As it matters to Tommy and smelly

All four clearly dont give a shit about the actual problem, but to politicise this for their own agenda

You seem to only have an issue with two of them, when I see an problem with all of them. When they use such events to politicise their own ideology

How about an actual discussion to talk about these problems and how to resolve them?

Raggamuffin wrote:So if anyone starts a thread about a black person who's a victim, that means they're racist? Can someone explain that?

that means all lefties and liberals are racist since they hold to the view that blacks are always victims of whites

smelly-bandit wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:So if anyone starts a thread about a black person who's a victim, that means they're racist? Can someone explain that?

that means all lefties and liberals are racist since they hold to the view that blacks are always victims of whites

So Quill is racist towards black people then. Who would have thought?

smelly-bandit wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:So if anyone starts a thread about a black person who's a victim, that means they're racist? Can someone explain that?

that means all lefties and liberals are racist since they hold to the view that blacks are always victims of whites

But the shit-stirrer that started the thread is a righty. The sole message of the thread is that blacks are unrestrained and lawless. All rightys, Republicans and Tories are racists.

smelly-bandit wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:So if anyone starts a thread about a black person who's a victim, that means they're racist? Can someone explain that?

that means all lefties and liberals are racist since they hold to the view that blacks are always victims of whites

See its all about race for smelly, not any view to tackle the problem. Only promote a view on race

What he fails to grasp is that people are victims of crime, no matter what ethnicity, sexuality, gender ect they are.

Only those that promote a view to divide people by an unscientific view point, are racially and politically driven

As again, where is the view by smelly to understand gang culture around criminology and even more so to tackle this?

When you look at this, smelly is in reality colour blind. Everything is based in black and white racially

Original Quill wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

that means all lefties and liberals are racist since they hold to the view that blacks are always victims of whites

But the shit-stirrer that started the thread is a righty.  The sole message of the thread is that blacks are unrestrained and lawless.  All rightys, Republicans and Tories are racists.

Are you saying that that poor lady was killed because she was unrestrained and lawless - because she's black? That's really racist.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

But the shit-stirrer that started the thread is a righty.  The sole message of the thread is that blacks are unrestrained and lawless.  All rightys, Republicans and Tories are racists.

Are you saying that that poor lady was killed because she was unrestrained and lawless - because she's black? That's really racist.

Are you gender fluid Rags?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

But the shit-stirrer that started the thread is a righty.  The sole message of the thread is that blacks are unrestrained and lawless.  All rightys, Republicans and Tories are racists.

Are you saying that that poor lady was killed because she was unrestrained and lawless - because she's black? That's really racist.

It's not me. Note the OP of the thread. He brought up "the poor lady".

I agree with you, to start a thread 'because...[anyone] is black' is racist.

Original Quill wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Are you saying that that poor lady was killed because she was unrestrained and lawless - because she's black? That's really racist.

It's not me.  Note the OP of the thread.  He brought up "the poor lady".

I agree with you, to start a thread 'because...[anyone] is black' is racist.

Tommy didn't say she was unrestrained and lawless.