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Post by Andy Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:43 am

First topic message reminder :

And it has taken natural events such as el Nino into account.

No doubt. No controversy.

Just fact.

http://dailym.ai/2FQC3Fz

So Stench Skunk and Tommy can stick this up their arses.
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:50 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Important to know the facts, to consider the accuracy of these facts, and also to consider the perspective & context  etc...


And what I say about last 8000 years is true... check it out for yourself...!


Put up a graph showing different if you can...?




Hilarious

And I have put up graphs for you and you still cannot grasp them

You made an post before this showing even more how badly you are ignorant on science

So lets start with your first ignorance

When did records begin on tempretures?

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:53 pm

Here is three simple guides for Tommy

https://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-higher-in-past.htm

https://skepticalscience.com/2017-2nd-hottest-year.html

https://www.skepticalscience.com/climate-change-little-ice-age-medieval-warm-period.htm

I bet a million pounds he will not even dare to read them

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Post by Cass Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:57 pm

nicko wrote:I take Warfarin,   it thins the blood, perhaps that why I feel the cold?

Yes. My stepdad was the same. Their house was always like a sauna.
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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:29 pm

Didge wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Important to know the facts, to consider the accuracy of these facts, and also to consider the perspective & context  etc...


And what I say about last 8000 years is true... check it out for yourself...!


Put up a graph showing different if you can...?




Hilarious

And I have put up graphs for you and you still cannot grasp them

You made an post before this showing even more how badly you are ignorant on science

So lets start with your first ignorance

When did records begin on tempretures?


I haven't got time for your stuidity...
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:33 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Didge wrote:


Hilarious

And I have put up graphs for you and you still cannot grasp them

You made an post before this showing even more how badly you are ignorant on science

So lets start with your first ignorance

When did records begin on tempretures?


I haven't got time for your stuidity...


Translation

"I dont understand science didge, as I am a tad thick"

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:34 pm

Seems I also won the bet.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:38 pm

Please stop twisting and talking shit, Didge...


Either post a quote of what I actually said that you think is wrong, and explain your reasons why you think it is wrong...!?


Or fuck off!





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Post by Guest Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:40 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Please stop twisting and talking shit, Didge...


Either post a quote of what I actually said that you think is wrong, and explain your reasons why you think it is wrong...!?


Or fuck off!







I did post up what you posted and then asked you many questions throughout, which as of yet you have failed to answer them all


Did you read the links I presented also?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:43 pm



No you haven't Didge...!


Try again!


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Post by Guest Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:45 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

No you haven't Didge...!


Try again!




Oh yes I have

When did records begin Tommy?

Take your time

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:52 pm

Didge wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

No you haven't Didge...!


Try again!




Oh yes I have

When did records begin Tommy?

Take your time


Please stop twisting and talking shit, Didge...


Either post a quote of what I actually said that you think is wrong, and explain your reasons why you think it is wrong...!?


Or fuck off...!


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Post by Guest Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:57 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Didge wrote:


Oh yes I have

When did records begin Tommy?

Take your time


Please stop twisting and talking shit, Didge...


Either post a quote of what I actually said that you think is wrong, and explain your reasons why you think it is wrong...!?


Or fuck off...!




Tommy running away, because he clearly is admitting he is a tad thick on science

Laughing

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Post by Andy Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:05 pm

Only on science?
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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:07 pm

Didge wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:


Please stop twisting and talking shit, Didge...


Either post a quote of what I actually said that you think is wrong, and explain your reasons why you think it is wrong...!?


Or fuck off...!




Tommy running away, because he clearly is admitting he is a tad thick on science

Laughing


Post a quote of what I actually said that you think is wrong, and explain your reasons why you think it is wrong...!?


Why are you finding that so difficult...???


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Post by Guest Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:09 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Didge wrote:


Tommy running away, because he clearly is admitting he is a tad thick on science

Laughing


Post a quote of what I actually said that you think is wrong, and explain your reasons why you think it is wrong...!?


Why are you finding that so difficult...???




Tommy running away, because he clearly is admitting he is a tad thick on science

Laughing

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:27 pm



I'm not running away...


You claimed I fukked up somewhere... and I have asked you several times now, to point out what it is that I have said that you think is wrong, and your reason/s why...!


Either you can do this... or you can't...!?


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Post by Guest Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:28 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

I'm not running away...


You claimed I fukked up somewhere... and I have asked you several times now, to point out what it is that I have said that you think is wrong, and your reason/s why...!


Either you can do this... or you can't...!?




Then answer my question

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:41 pm



You need to explain your claim that I 'fukked up', first...


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Post by Guest Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:43 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

You need to explain your claim that I 'fukked up', first...




What is the difference between Co2 levels 8,000 years ago, which was also devastating to the danger of Co2 levels today?

This is why you are ignorant on science

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:49 pm




Still waiting for you to show what I posted, that you think is wrong, and explain your reason/s why...!?


Why do you keep running away on this...!?


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Post by Guest Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:52 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:


Still waiting for you to show what I posted, that you think is wrong, and explain your reason/s why...!?


Why do you keep running away on this...!?




How many questions are you going to continually ignore?

I tell you what, go back to school and simple sit through a simple science course and then come back and debate me.

How's that?

As I am not going to debate someone so ignorant on science that he constantly avoids questions he does not understand

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:05 pm

Didge wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:


Still waiting for you to show what I posted, that you think is wrong, and explain your reason/s why...!?


Why do you keep running away on this...!?




How many questions are you going to continually ignore?

I tell you what, go back to school and simple sit through a simple science course and then come back and debate me.

How's that?

As I am not going to debate someone so ignorant on science that he constantly avoids questions he does not understand


First you need to explain your accusation that 'I fukked up'...!?


Why are you refusing to do this...???


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Post by Guest Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:07 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Didge wrote:


How many questions are you going to continually ignore?

I tell you what, go back to school and simple sit through a simple science course and then come back and debate me.

How's that?

As I am not going to debate someone so ignorant on science that he constantly avoids questions he does not understand


First you need to explain your accusation that 'I fukked up'...!?


Why are you refusing to do this...???




I am trying to explain them for you, hence why I am asking you questions. Which clearly proves why you are ignorant here and unable to answer

You made points here and i have asked you questions based off this, which you keep avoiding

Try again

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:10 pm

What point have I made that is wrong...!?


Explain your claim, or withdraw it...!!!


Then we can move on...


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Post by Guest Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:13 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:What point have I made that is wrong...!?


Explain your claim, or withdraw it...!!!


Then we can move on...




So I have asked you two points on your claim and as of yet you cannot answer

We will only move on when  you answer them and thus understand what you are taking about or at least you go to college and actually understand what you are talking about

Try again

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:22 pm

Still waiting for you to quote what I posted, that you think is wrong, and explain your reason/s why...!?


Then we can discuss it...


As is the normal way of things on a debate/discussion forum...!


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Post by Guest Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:23 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Still waiting for you to quote what I posted, that you think is wrong, and explain your reason/s why...!?


Then we can discuss it...


As is the normal way of things on a debate/discussion forum...!




Copout

I already have

Let me know when you pass basic science, untill then, you are still a dummy on this

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:28 pm

Didge wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Still waiting for you to quote what I posted, that you think is wrong, and explain your reason/s why...!?


Then we can discuss it...


As is the normal way of things on a debate/discussion forum...!




Copout

I already have

Let me know when you pass basic science, untill then, you are still a dummy on this


Have you...?


Then should be easy for you to repost it... so I know what the fuck you are waffling on about...?


Then we can discuss it...


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Post by Guest Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:30 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Didge wrote:


Copout

I already have

Let me know when you pass basic science, untill then, you are still a dummy on this


Have you...?


Then should be easy for you to repost it... so I know what the fuck you are waffling on about...?


Then we can discuss it...




Well so far you have avoided all my questions and instead continually posted babbled in repsonse

Answer my questions

Its that simple Tommy

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:30 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Didge wrote:


Copout

I already have

Let me know when you pass basic science, untill then, you are still a dummy on this


Have you...?


Then should be easy for you to repost it... so I know what the fuck you are waffling on about...?


Then we can discuss it...




Well so far you have avoided all my questions based on your incorrect claimed facts and instead continually posted babbled in repsonse

Answer my questions

Its that simple Tommy

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:34 pm

First you need to explain your accusation that 'I fukked up'...!?


Why can't you do this...!?


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Post by Guest Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:37 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:First you need to explain your accusation that 'I fukked up'...!?


Why can't you do this...!?




I am trying to, but you wont anwser my questions

Its how i can explain to you why you are so stupid Tommy

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:44 pm



Still waiting for you to show what I posted, that you think is wrong, and explain your reason/s why...!?


Come on big man!!!


Post it up!!!


Then tell us all why you think it is wrong!!!


Or are you talking shit and scared of looking like a colossal fool...!?


lol!


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Post by Guest Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:46 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

Still waiting for you to show what I posted, that you think is wrong, and explain your reason/s why...!?


Come on big man!!!


Post it up!!!


Then tell us all why you think it is wrong!!!


Or are you talking shit and scared of looking like a colossal fool...!?


lol!




I have posted and asked you questions on this and the fact you post a lol, shows to me you are running scared Tommy

Hilarious

Take as long as you like to answer my questions mate

Cool

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:04 am



Why can't you just post up what it was that I said, that you think is wrong...???


Here and now...???


So we can all be clear about wtf it is you are going on about...???


Then we can discuss why it is that you think it is wrong...!!!


Wouldn't that be quicker and easier than all this beating around the bush you've been doing so far on this thread...?


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Post by Guest Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:08 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

Why can't you just post up what it was that I said, that you think is wrong...???


Here and now...???


So we can all be clear about wtf it is you are going on about...???


Then we can discuss why it is that you think it is wrong...!!!


Wouldn't that be quicker and easier than all this beating around the bush you've been doing so far on this thread...?




I have posted and asked you questions on thi and you contiually avoid
Hilarious

Take as long as you like to answer my questions mate

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:10 am

Didge wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

Why can't you just post up what it was that I said, that you think is wrong...???


Here and now...???


So we can all be clear about wtf it is you are going on about...???


Then we can discuss why it is that you think it is wrong...!!!


Wouldn't that be quicker and easier than all this beating around the bush you've been doing so far on this thread...?




I have posted and asked you questions on thi and you contiually avoid
Hilarious

Take as long as you like to answer my questions mate

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I made 2 posts on this thread before you started with your accusations that I was an idiot and that I had fukked up...


And 2 pages later, I'm still asking you to point out what it is that I posted, that you think is wrong, and your reason/s why...!?


My first post was of 4 questions that I was asking Handy Andy to answer, in response to his OP... still waiting for him to reply/answer...


My second post was a reply to fleakeeper...


Then you started with your childish nonsense...!


And it's been 2 pages of me asking wtf you're talking about!!!???


This reminds me of an ex girlfriend of mine... where she would sometimes start being a moody twat, and I would ask her 'what was wrong?'...

me - What's wrong?
her - Nothing.
me - Have you got the hump about something?
her - Well, you should know!
me - What is it that you've got the hump about?
her - If you don't know, then I'm not going to tell you!!!


Fucking madness!!!


lol!


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Post by Guest Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:14 am

Hilarious and Tommy still avoids the questions

How many posts can he continue to prove how dumb he is on science?

Two simple questions and he still cannot answer them, proving he does not know what he is talking about

Go figure

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:31 am

Do you know what the funniest thing here is.

Is that Tommy believes he is playing to an audience who admire him

He has not woken up to the fact he is looking very stupid here.

Now how many more excuses is he going to give me for not answering my questions?

Bets anyone?

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:32 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Maybe hand shandy can tell us when these records began...?


Compared to how long humans have been on the planet...?


And then maybe he could tell us how accurate and geographically widespread the measurements are now, compared to 50 years ago, 100 years ago, and 150 years ago...!?


And then maybe he can explain why scientific research has shown that over the majority of the last 8000 years, the temp has been warmer or as warm as it is now...!?





This was my first post on this thread...


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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:36 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Important to know the facts, to consider the accuracy of these facts, and also to consider the perspective & context  etc...


And what I say about last 8000 years is true... check it out for yourself...!


Put up a graph showing different if you can...?




This was my second post on this thread...



Now... Didge... please point out which particular bit/s you think are wrong... and why...?


Just so we can all be sure...!


Go on...!?


Please...?


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Post by Guest Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:39 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Maybe hand shandy can tell us when these records began...?


Compared to how long humans have been on the planet...?


And then maybe he could tell us how accurate and geographically widespread the measurements are now, compared to 50 years ago, 100 years ago, and 150 years ago...!?


And then maybe he can explain why scientific research has shown that over the majority of the last 8000 years, the temp has been warmer or as warm as it is now...!?





This was my first post on this thread...




1) You do not know when they began, as I asked you and you gave me lots of bollocks

2) Shows you have no comprehension of how damaging CO2 levels have been in the past and how now we are creating them

3) See the graphs from Nasa I showed you

which you ignored

4) Showing again, how clueless you are. Nobody denies it has been warmer in the past and also devesatating to life. This time, ite being caused by humans

Maybe you need to go back to school, being as you clearly are as thick as shit Tommy

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:41 am

I told you he never read the scientific links I posted and why Tommy really is very much a dummy

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:53 am

Next Tommy will be telling us there was no mass extinction of the Woolly Mammoth, Sabre Tooth Tiger, Giant Sloth and countless other species 12,000 years ago. All cause by global warming and human hunting. This is why Tommy is clueless on science. Now humans again are causing so much damage with CO2 levels and hunting, and why many animals are on the brink of extinction.

Tommy is just one in a line of other loons that never actually read any science but read conspiracy bullshit

Poor Tommy

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:55 am


Are you trying to say my questions were somehow 'wrong'...!?


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Post by Guest Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:57 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
Are you trying to say my questions were somehow 'wrong'...!?



You see, utterly stupid.

See how Tommy has avoided my questions and now damning evidence


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Post by Guest Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:01 am

Now i am simple going to ridicule Tommy's ignorance

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Climate Myth...


Climate's changed before
Climate is always changing. We have had ice ages and warmer periods when alligators were found in Spitzbergen. Ice ages have occurred in a hundred thousand year cycle for the last 700 thousand years, and there have been previous periods that appear to have been warmer than the present despite CO2 levels being lower than they are now. More recently, we have had the medieval warm period and the little ice age. (Richard Lindzen)


Greenhouse gasses – mainly CO2, but also methane – were involved in most of the climate changes in Earth’s past. When they were reduced, the global climate became colder. When they were increased, the global climate became warmer. When CO2 levels jumped rapidly, the global warming that resulted was highly disruptive and sometimes caused mass extinctions. Humans today are emitting prodigious quantities of CO2, at a rate faster than even the most destructive climate changes in earth's past.


Abrupt vs slow change.

Life flourished in the Eocene, the Cretaceous and other times of high CO2 in the atmosphere because the greenhouse gasses were in balance with the carbon in the oceans and the weathering of rocks. Life, ocean chemistry, and atmospheric gasses had millions of years to adjust to those levels.
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Lush life in the Arctic during the Eocene, 50 million years ago (original art - Stephen C. Quinn, The American Museum of Natural History, N.Y.C)

But there have been several times in Earth’s past when Earth's temperature jumped abruptly, in much the same way as they are doing today. Those times were caused by large and rapid greenhouse gas emissions, just like humans are causing today.



Those abrupt global warming events were almost always highly destructive for life, causing mass extinctions such as at the end of the Permian, Triassic, or even mid-Cambrian periods. The symptoms from those events (a big, rapid jump in global temperatures, rising sea levels, and ocean acidification) are all happening today with human-caused climate change.
So yes, the climate has changed before humans, and in most cases scientists know why. In all cases we see the same association between CO2 levels and global temperatures. And past examples of rapid carbon emissions (just like today) were generally highly destructive to life on Earth.








https://skepticalscience.com/climate-change-little-ice-age-medieval-warm-period.htm

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:14 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Maybe hand shandy can tell us when these records began...?


Compared to how long humans have been on the planet...?


And then maybe he could tell us how accurate and geographically widespread the measurements are now, compared to 50 years ago, 100 years ago, and 150 years ago...!?


And then maybe he can explain why scientific research has shown that over the majority of the last 8000 years, the temp has been warmer or as warm as it is now...!?





This was my first post on this thread...


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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:16 pm

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Tommy Monk wrote:Important to know the facts, to consider the accuracy of these facts, and also to consider the perspective & context  etc...


And what I say about last 8000 years is true... check it out for yourself...!


Put up a graph showing different if you can...?




This was my second post on this thread...



Now... Didge... please point out which particular bit/s you think are wrong... and why...?


Just so we can all be sure...!


Go on...!?


Please...!?





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