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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:15 pm



https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews/2219097/archbishop-of-canterbury-justin-welby-slams-isis-apologists-who-say-group-are-not-islamic-as-he-demands-religious-leaders-take-responsibility-for-terror-fanatics-crimes/


Better late than never justin...
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Post by nicko Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:18 pm

Just about to post that Tom.
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Post by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:38 pm

Being the Sun they made it a racist agenda when it wasn't:

Religious violence, he said, is not just a security problem and that in order to defeat it, it ‘requires a move away from the argument that has become increasingly popular, which is to say that ISIS is ‘nothing to do with Islam’, or that Christian militia in the Central African Republic are nothing to do with Christianity, or Hindu nationalist persecution of Christians in South India is nothing to do with Hinduism.


From the link.




The Sun isn't even good enough to use as toilet paper.

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Post by Syl Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:38 pm

sassy wrote:Being the Sun they made it a racist agenda when it wasn't:

Religious violence, he said, is not just a security problem and that in order to defeat it, it ‘requires a move away from the argument that has become increasingly popular, which is to say that ISIS is ‘nothing to do with Islam’, or that Christian militia in the Central African Republic are nothing to do with Christianity, or Hindu nationalist persecution of Christians in South India is nothing to do with Hinduism.


From the link.




The Sun isn't even good enough to use as toilet paper.

This was in the broadsheets too Sassy.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/18/welby-time-to-stop-saying-isil-has-nothing-to-do-with-islam/

“If we treat religiously-motivated violence solely as a security issue, or a political issue, then it will be incredibly difficult – probably impossible – to overcome it.
“A theological voice needs to be part of the response, and we should not be bashful in offering that.
“This requires a move away from the argument that has become increasingly popular, which is to say that Isis is ‘nothing to do with Islam’, or that Christian militia in the Central African Republic are nothing to do with Christianity, or Hindu nationalist persecution of Christians in South India is nothing to do with Hinduism.
“Until religious leaders stand up and take responsibility for the actions of those who do things in the name of their religion, we will see no resolution.”
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Post by nicko Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:43 pm

WE used the Daily Sketch as Toilet paper, ripped into squares.If that was not available we used the Mirror or the Daily Worker.
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Post by Syl Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:47 pm

Nowadays who needs any one newspaper?
Everything is online, and it's always best to read several different reports to get a fairer idea of whats going on in the world.
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Post by eddie Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:01 pm

If I read something in The Sun, I would have to triple check it. That paper is just absolute crap.
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Post by Syl Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:13 pm

It's pretty straight forwards. He is saying that religious leaders, instead of denying the fact, should stand up and speak out against the terrorists and the like who commit atrocities and cite hatred in the name of their religion.
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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:45 pm

sassy wrote:Being the Sun they made it a racist agenda when it wasn't:

Religious violence, he said, is not just a security problem and that in order to defeat it, it ‘requires a move away from the argument that has become increasingly popular, which is to say that ISIS is ‘nothing to do with Islam’, or that Christian militia in the Central African Republic are nothing to do with Christianity, or Hindu nationalist persecution of Christians in South India is nothing to do with Hinduism.


From the link.




The Sun isn't even good enough to use as toilet paper.


He said what was claimed...


Do you agree with him that people are wrong to try to say that isis are nothing to do with islam...?
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Post by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:00 pm

nicko wrote:WE used the Daily Sketch as Toilet paper, ripped into squares.If that was not available we used the Mirror or the Daily Worker.

The right-wing Daily Sketch was merged with the Mail - you were wise to use it as you did. Laughing

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Post by Syl Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:02 pm

My mum would never have The news of the world in our house....she thought it was a disgusting paper.
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Post by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:03 pm

Syl wrote:My mum would never have The news of the world in our house....she thought it was a disgusting paper.

Well...it was. Justin welby slams apologists for isis who say they have nothing to do with islam... 2190311264

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Post by Original Quill Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:03 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Do you agree with him that people are wrong to try to say that isis are nothing to do with islam...?

It's the fallacy of concentric circles, tommy.  The outer circle defines (contains) the inner circle; but the inner circle doesn't define (contain) the outer circle.

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Post by Syl Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:07 pm

Ziz wrote:
Syl wrote:My mum would never have The news of the world in our house....she thought it was a disgusting paper.

Well...it was. Justin welby slams apologists for isis who say they have nothing to do with islam... 2190311264

I never read it. Old habits die hard...I never bought it either.
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Post by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:09 pm

Syl wrote:
Ziz wrote:

Well...it was. Justin welby slams apologists for isis who say they have nothing to do with islam... 2190311264

I never read it. Old habits die hard...I never bought it either.

Nor me - I'm too posh. Smile

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Post by Syl Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:12 pm

Ziz wrote:
Syl wrote:

I never read it. Old habits die hard...I never bought it either.

Nor me - I'm too posh. Smile

Everythings on line now anyway....so you don't have to buy any of them....posh or not.
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Post by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:17 pm

Syl wrote:
Ziz wrote:

Nor me - I'm too posh. Smile

Everythings on line now anyway....so you don't have to buy any of them....posh or not.

The in-depth news and comment is often behind a pay-wall though.

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:29 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Do you agree with him that people are wrong to try to say that isis are nothing to do with islam...?

It's the fallacy of concentric circles, tommy.  The outer circle defines (contains) the inner circle; but the inner circle doesn't define (contain) the outer circle.

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He said what was claimed in the article... now, do you agree with him or not...?


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Post by Syl Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:32 pm

Ziz wrote:
Syl wrote:

Everythings on line now anyway....so you don't have to buy any of them....posh or not.

The in-depth news and comment is often behind a pay-wall though.

Whats a 'pay-wall'?
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Post by Ben Reilly Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:43 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Original Quill wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Do you agree with him that people are wrong to try to say that isis are nothing to do with islam...?

It's the fallacy of concentric circles, tommy.  The outer circle defines (contains) the inner circle; but the inner circle doesn't define (contain) the outer circle.

Justin welby slams apologists for isis who say they have nothing to do with islam... Drawingnonconcentriccircles


He said what was claimed in the article... now, do you agree with him or not...?



He just told you he doesn't agree, I thought you were a genius?

Here you go: "It's time to stop acting as though Mair's murder of Jo Cox has nothing to do with the views of mainstream UK conservatives." Do you agree or disagree?
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Post by veya_victaous Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:23 pm

SO when IS Justin Going to Jail?
he seems very keen on others taking blame, the Church has not a leg to stand on while they still own a single church.
every cent needs to go to their victims
And Abuser calling out abusers Absurd.
 
YES People Trying to link ISIS to General Islam are dumb, or even to religion.
All those places have Drought, Poverty, Corruption, etc and that has more to do the disenfranchisement of the people causing them to turn to extremist groups that any dumb ass fairytale. We can Destroy all Religion but if we don't address the suffering that causes discontent we will still have the potential for terrorism
 
AND any Dumb ass that think that Islamic leaders are NOT standing up to ISIS is part of the problem, they are, YOU need to open your eyes
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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:53 pm

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Tommy Monk wrote:


He said what was claimed in the article... now, do you agree with him or not...?



He just told you he doesn't agree, I thought you were a genius?

Here you go: "It's time to stop acting as though Mair's murder of Jo Cox has nothing to do with the views of mainstream UK conservatives." Do you agree or disagree?


No he didn't disagree at all...
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Post by Ben Reilly Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:02 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Avenging Bae wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:


He said what was claimed in the article... now, do you agree with him or not...?



He just told you he doesn't agree, I thought you were a genius?

Here you go: "It's time to stop acting as though Mair's murder of Jo Cox has nothing to do with the views of mainstream UK conservatives." Do you agree or disagree?


No he didn't disagree at all...

Yeah he did, dumbass, you're just too much of a non-genius to think it through.
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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:22 pm

veya_victaous wrote:SO when IS Justin Going to Jail?
he seems very keen on others taking blame, the Church has not a leg to stand on while they still own a single church.
every cent needs to go to their victims
And Abuser calling out abusers Absurd.
 
YES People Trying to link ISIS to General Islam are dumb, or even to religion.
All those places have Drought, Poverty, Corruption, etc and that has more to do the disenfranchisement of the people causing them to turn to extremist groups that any dumb ass fairytale.
We can Destroy all Religion but if we don't address the suffering that causes discontent we will still have the potential for terrorism
 
AND any Dumb ass that think that Islamic leaders are NOT standing up to ISIS is part of the problem, they are, YOU need to open your eyes


'General islam'...!?


lol!
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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:27 pm

Avenging Bae wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:


No he didn't disagree at all...

Yeah he did, dumbass, you're just too much of a non-genius to think it through.


No... he didn't...


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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:14 pm

I think he was actually saying that isis are indeed part of Islam...
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Post by 'Wolfie Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:29 pm

Cool

TOMMY is so much of a "genius", that he is above anything so menial as comprehending whatever he reads...

Understanding, analysing, actually comprehending what is said or written --all of those silly little bothersome and pesky things are only for us mere plebs..

Tommy is so smart, he has transcended something as simple as understanding the written word.

Tommy is so clever, he truly surpasses the meaning of "genius"..

Tommy is my hero  !!!

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