Muslim Teacher Claims She Was racially Discriminated Against

A Muslim teacher who claims she was sacked after objecting to a 9/11 video has turned down a £11,000 payout and vowed to take the case to a full tribunal.


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Would you have paid her any compo???????

Major wrote:A Muslim teacher who claims she was sacked after objecting to a 9/11 video has turned down a £11,000 payout and vowed to take the case to a full tribunal.


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Would you have paid her any compo???????

Here we go punting out the hatred, that the pro Nazi dailyfuckwit offers to its minions of hateful little englanders.

If she was sacked simply for objecting that the film be shown I think she has a point.
The film said not suitable for under 18 year olds, so the school was remiss in deeming it suitable for 11 and 12 year olds.

Why is she citing religious discrimination? Basically yet another prat drawing attention to being a Muslim in the worst possible way. Surely, she's objecting to this on the grounds that she's a human being, rather than her religious choices?

Syl wrote:If she was sacked simply for objecting that the film be shown I think she has  a point.
The film said not suitable for under 18 year olds, so the school was remiss in deeming it suitable for 11 and 12 year olds.

Do you think for one moment, say, a Christian or Jewish person would scream 'Religious discrimination' if they had objected to this film? Clearly, this situation has made her uncomfortable as a Muslim because she's worried those kids are watching that and thinking the worst about her religion and maybe her. This is more about her than the film footage, I suspect. And I have to say I don't really blame her. If I was Muslim, I'd fucking cringe watching that horror...because, sadly, people do make judgements even on those who are innocent just by association.

HoratioTarr wrote:

Syl wrote:If she was sacked simply for objecting that the film be shown I think she has  a point.
The film said not suitable for under 18 year olds, so the school was remiss in deeming it suitable for 11 and 12 year olds.

Do you think for one moment, say, a Christian or Jewish person would scream 'Religious discrimination' if they had objected to this film?   Clearly, this situation has made her uncomfortable as a Muslim because she's worried those kids are watching that and thinking the worst about her religion and maybe her.   This is more about her than the film footage, I suspect.    And I have to say I don't really blame her.  If I was Muslim, I'd fucking cringe watching that horror...because, sadly, people do make judgements even on those who are innocent just by association.

Syl's claim that it is not suitable for teaching 11- and 12-year olds is universal.  As a teacher she has the standing on behalf of education, if not the children.

But a Christian or Jew would not have the standing to bring up religious claims.  She has the standing, and so, yes, its about her as a Muslim.  

These cases often have a retaliatory claim. In the normal sequence of events when someone complains, retaliation ensues. In this case, the retaliation involved her religion (Muslim) and hence the retaliation was under color of religion (re: "The Trojan Horse scandal"). You bring the retaliation claim simultaneously with the underlying claim because you must air all claims in a single suit, or lose them.

As an aside, the religious aspect was brought in by the others, not her. It is very typical, these days, to attack someone for just being Muslim. Wasn't that why this thread was started?

Original Quill wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

Do you think for one moment, say, a Christian or Jewish person would scream 'Religious discrimination' if they had objected to this film?   Clearly, this situation has made her uncomfortable as a Muslim because she's worried those kids are watching that and thinking the worst about her religion and maybe her.   This is more about her than the film footage, I suspect.    And I have to say I don't really blame her.  If I was Muslim, I'd fucking cringe watching that horror...because, sadly, people do make judgements even on those who are innocent just by association.

A Christian or Jew would not have the standing to bring up religious claims.  She has the standing, and so, yes, its about her as a Muslim.  

But Syl's claim that it is not suitable for teaching 11- and 12-year olds is universal.  As a teacher, again, she has the standing.

How is objecting to that video a religious thing? She mentions nothing about religion in her objection to it.

HoratioTarr wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

A Christian or Jew would not have the standing to bring up religious claims.  She has the standing, and so, yes, its about her as a Muslim.  

But Syl's claim that it is not suitable for teaching 11- and 12-year olds is universal.  As a teacher, again, she has the standing.

How is objecting  to that video a religious thing?    She mentions nothing about religion in her objection  to it.

The article says:

Daily Mail wrote:Suriyah also claims that following her dismissal, she discovered staff raised concerns over her connection to a Saltley School where she was Head Girl, which was implicated in the Trojan Horse scandal.

As I said, it's a separate claim for retaliation.  Her antagonists brought up the religious aspect after the fact of her complaint, and created a second cause or claim.

Original Quill wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

How is objecting  to that video a religious thing?    She mentions nothing about religion in her objection  to it.

The article says:

Daily Mail wrote:Suriyah also claims that following her dismissal, she discovered staff raised concerns over her connection to a Saltley School where she was Head Girl, which was implicated in the Trojan Horse scandal.

As I said, it's a separate claim for retaliation.  Her antagonists brought up the religious aspect after the fact of her complaint, and created a second cause or claim.

It's all a bit sketchy though, isn't it?

HoratioTarr wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

The article says:



As I said, it's a separate claim for retaliation.  Her antagonists brought up the religious aspect after the fact of her complaint, and created a second cause or claim.

It's all a bit sketchy though, isn't it?  

I guess it's what you are used to. I'm used to drafting lawsuits with multiple claims, some reinforced by evidence better than others. Sketchy is as sketchy does for the person in judgment, and some might find certain details more convincing than others.

I imagine that's why we have 9- and 12-person juries.

HoratioTarr wrote:

Syl wrote:If she was sacked simply for objecting that the film be shown I think she has  a point.
The film said not suitable for under 18 year olds, so the school was remiss in deeming it suitable for 11 and 12 year olds.

Do you think for one moment, say, a Christian or Jewish person would scream 'Religious discrimination' if they had objected to this film?   Clearly, this situation has made her uncomfortable as a Muslim because she's worried those kids are watching that and thinking the worst about her religion and maybe her.   This is more about her than the film footage, I suspect.    And I have to say I don't really blame her.  If I was Muslim, I'd fucking cringe watching that horror...because, sadly, people do make judgements even on those who are innocent just by association.

I don't think racial or religious discrimination could possibly be cited in this instance....it's common sense. Kids of 11 and 12 should not be shown films in school designed for 18 year olds...that's a given.

She claims that staff discriminated against her because she was head girl at a school which was involved in The Trojan horse scandal. But unless there was evidence she was an extremist or broke the law when she was there.....not sure why that has been brought up.

Original Quill wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

Do you think for one moment, say, a Christian or Jewish person would scream 'Religious discrimination' if they had objected to this film?   Clearly, this situation has made her uncomfortable as a Muslim because she's worried those kids are watching that and thinking the worst about her religion and maybe her.   This is more about her than the film footage, I suspect.    And I have to say I don't really blame her.  If I was Muslim, I'd fucking cringe watching that horror...because, sadly, people do make judgements even on those who are innocent just by association.

Syl's claim that it is not suitable for teaching 11- and 12-year olds is universal.  As a teacher she has the standing on behalf of education, if not the children.

But a Christian or Jew would not have the standing to bring up religious claims.  She has the standing, and so, yes, its about her as a Muslim.  

These cases often have a retaliatory claim.  In the normal sequence of events when someone complains, retaliation ensues.  In this case, the retaliation involved her religion (Muslim) and hence the retaliation was under color of religion (re: "The Trojan Horse scandal").  You bring the retaliation claim simultaneously with the underlying claim because you must air all claims in a single suit, or lose them.

As an aside, the religious aspect was brought in by the others, not her.  It is very typical, these days, to attack someone for just being Muslim.  Wasn't that why this thread was started?

Just saw this....it makes things a bit clearer.

We should have English Christian teachuz teaching our young onez IMHO.

Wrong Major...

we should have non biased, non political, secular teachers, teaching our young ones

Major wrote:We should have English Christian teachuz teaching our young onez IMHO.

And bring back the The Great Plague of London!

So Major Finially Admits He HATES Britian
why are You so Disgusted with you nation

You should move to non-secualr nation if that is what you beleive
You don't Belong in Britian if that is what you beleive.

I don't get people like you Major. You must walk around so depressed all the time.

Bless him, he probably peeks round corners to make sure a Muslim isn't coming to get him.

sassy wrote:Bless him, he probably peeks round corners to make sure a Muslim isn't coming to get him.

Or the spearz. Blackz throw them things all the time

eddie wrote:

sassy wrote:Bless him, he probably peeks round corners to make sure a Muslim isn't coming to get him.

Or the spearz. Blackz throw them things all the time

Do they have blow pipes as well?

eddie wrote:I don't get people like you Major. You must walk around so depressed all the time.

Edds, you would be shocked, me depressed, ya must be joking, if you couls see me on my daily routines.

I laff all the time.

You know me on here only.

I detest certain thingz for my own reasons as everyone duz, say no more



Best wishes

eddie wrote:

Major wrote:We should have English Christian teachuz teaching our young onez IMHO.

And bring back the The Great Plague of London!

The plague is already upon my beloved island, eddz, it has 2 legz from across the ocean.

sassy wrote:Bless him, he probably peeks round corners to make sure a Muslim isn't coming to get him.

I bet you look around cornuz HOPING one is coming.

I wouldn't look round the corner at all you freak, I'd stride round it smiling at anyone on the other side.

eddie wrote:

sassy wrote:Bless him, he probably peeks round corners to make sure a Muslim isn't coming to get him.

Or the spearz. Blackz throw them things all the time

Assegai, eddz.

Every time ...

Anyway, I agree with the teaching assistant about the video, but I think that claiming racial discrimination might be going a bit far.

Syl wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

Do you think for one moment, say, a Christian or Jewish person would scream 'Religious discrimination' if they had objected to this film?   Clearly, this situation has made her uncomfortable as a Muslim because she's worried those kids are watching that and thinking the worst about her religion and maybe her.   This is more about her than the film footage, I suspect.    And I have to say I don't really blame her.  If I was Muslim, I'd fucking cringe watching that horror...because, sadly, people do make judgements even on those who are innocent just by association.

I don't think racial or religious discrimination could possibly be cited in this instance....it's common sense. Kids of 11 and 12 should not be shown films in school designed for 18 year olds...that's a given.

She claims that staff discriminated against her because she was head girl at a school which was involved in The Trojan horse scandal. But unless there was evidence she was an extremist or broke the law when she was there.....not sure why that has been brought up.

The theory is, it was brought up to besmirch her and make her seem a radical, coloring her motives (retaliation) for having brought the complaint.  She claims she was at Oxford University at the time, and had no involvement in the Trojan Horse matter.  It's a question of fact, yes/no.

No question, if there are no facts the claim fails.

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:

I don't think racial or religious discrimination could possibly be cited in this instance....it's common sense. Kids of 11 and 12 should not be shown films in school designed for 18 year olds...that's a given.

She claims that staff discriminated against her because she was head girl at a school which was involved in The Trojan horse scandal. But unless there was evidence she was an extremist or broke the law when she was there.....not sure why that has been brought up.

The theory is, it was brought up to besmirch her and make her seem a radical, coloring her motives (retaliation) for having brought the complaint.  She claims she was at Oxford University at the time, and had no involvement in the Trojan Horse matter.  It's a question of fact, yes/no.

No question, if there are no facts the claim fails.

Or is she 'claiming' they brought it up?

HoratioTarr wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

The theory is, it was brought up to besmirch her and make her seem a radical, coloring her motives (retaliation) for having brought the complaint.  She claims she was at Oxford University at the time, and had no involvement in the Trojan Horse matter.  It's a question of fact, yes/no.

No question, if there are no facts the claim fails.

Or is she 'claiming' they brought it up?  

She says she 'discovered' they brought it up.

"Suriyah also claims that following her dismissal, she discovered staff raised concerns over her connection to a Saltley School where she was Head Girl, which was implicated in the Trojan Horse scandal.
She added: 'I was made to feel like an extremist because I wanted to protect these children. I was studying at Oxford during the "Trojan Horse" affair.
'To imply that I may have been involved just shows the level of prejudice I have experienced from management at the academy.'"

HoratioTarr wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

The theory is, it was brought up to besmirch her and make her seem a radical, coloring her motives (retaliation) for having brought the complaint.  She claims she was at Oxford University at the time, and had no involvement in the Trojan Horse matter.  It's a question of fact, yes/no.

No question, if there are no facts the claim fails.

Or is she 'claiming' they brought it up?  

Every lawsuit is a competition of 'claims'. That's why they have juries.

We get so used to believing the 'official' or 'police' version in the news, that we forget that these are all 'claims'.

Syl wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

Or is she 'claiming' they brought it up?  

She says she 'discovered' they brought it up.

"Suriyah also claims that following her dismissal, she discovered staff raised concerns over her connection to a Saltley School where she was Head Girl, which was implicated in the Trojan Horse scandal.
She added: 'I was made to feel like an extremist because I wanted to protect these children. I was studying at Oxford during the "Trojan Horse" affair.
'To imply that I may have been involved just shows the level of prejudice I have experienced from management at the academy.'"

That I took to be a bit of legalese, referring to the statute of limitations.  Lawyers are so used to a time clock running at the point of 'discovery' of the alleged wrong, that the word discover has worked it's way into everyday language...even if it's not a limitations issue.

What she is saying is that she was not aware of it at the time, but people were whispering behind her back...a feeling we have all experienced.  She "discovered" it later, and she includes it as a form of discrimination because its a kind of atmospheric claim: failure to maintain a workplace free of discrimination.

It's rare in a religious claim  Where this kind of thing comes up is in sex discrimination cases, where some boss makes a pass at a woman, which is rejected, and then the rumor mill starts up among the 'good old boys' that she is cold or stiff or stuck-up and such.  Anyway, that's the example, but she is finding the same thing with religion because of the unique story of her school.  The claim is something like, the co-workers misconstrued her complaint, attaching it to an allegation or feeling that she was a religious 'extremist', and the administration either permitted it, or in fact encouraged it.