Trump supporter says Obama had 'a lot to do with 9/11'

Syl wrote:If they had brains they would be dangerous.

Oh wait, it's those people who could likely elect a despotic moron  to preside over America ....not so amusing when you think of it like that.  

veya_victaous wrote:I love the assumption that Trump is basically a human size cockatiel

Syl wrote:If they had brains they would be dangerous.

Oh wait, it's those people who could likely elect a despotic moron  to preside over America ....not so amusing when you think of it like that.  

Handy Andy wrote:At least  Trump has one idolizer on Newsfix. And they both agree that there is no such thing as climate change.
They are also both dullards.

Handy Andy wrote:At least  Trump has one idolizer on Newsfix. And they both agree that there is no such thing as climate change.
They are also both dullards.

Jules wrote:

Syl wrote:If they had brains they would be dangerous.

Oh wait, it's those people who could likely elect a despotic moron  to preside over America ....not so amusing when you think of it like that.  

Trump supporters share one single brain cell between them, which they pass round at meetings, like the stygian witches and their solitary eyeball.

Tommy Monk wrote:

Handy Andy wrote:At least  Trump has one idolizer on Newsfix. And they both agree that there is no such thing as climate change.
They are also both dullards.

Wrong again hand shandy... I don't like either clinton or trump... plus said many times that the climate is always changing!!!


You are gonna have to start listening to what I do say rather than hearing what you want to hear...

The Devil, You Know wrote:

Jules wrote:

Trump supporters share one single brain cell between them, which they pass round at meetings, like the stygian witches and their solitary eyeball.

it is exactly that sort of thinking, and more importantly espousing that lost the brexit vote and may well lose the presidency for clinton. Endlessly calling half the population fools, bigots and thicko's does not win you votes.

Original Quill wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
it is exactly that sort of thinking, and more importantly espousing that lost the brexit vote and may well lose the presidency for clinton. Endlessly calling half the population fools, bigots and thicko's does not win you votes.

Conservatives are not half the population.  Generally they sit at around one-quarter; last election it was 24%.

The Brexit vote may yet prove those voting for it are fools.  Brexit was actually an EU vote under the  EU Referendum Act 2015.  Parliament is another jurisdiction, entirely.  

Technically, a vote under EU law to terminate a relationship with the EU, is a self-contradiction and may well end up being self-negating.  At the very least, that means it was probably quite foolish.

I think that Trump is unable to rise above his variously 33-35% line in the polls; Clinton is unable to sink below her 40-42% margin.  No matter what the national poll, those numbers appear to be pretty stable.  If Clinton wins by 5% or more, it will be a landslide.

The Devil, You Know wrote:

Jules wrote:

Trump supporters share one single brain cell between them, which they pass round at meetings, like the stygian witches and their solitary eyeball.

it is exactly that sort of thinking, and more importantly espousing that lost the brexit vote and may well lose the presidency for clinton. Endlessly calling half the population fools, bigots and thicko's does not win you votes.

Tommy Monk wrote:Boris was at end of term for London Mayor and is now in the govt as foreign secretary...


Farage is still an MEP...

Tommy Monk wrote:Boris is a much more intelligent, capable and able politician/statesman/foreign secretary than you give him credit for...


He is typically English with his friendly well natured likeable charm and good humour... and so understated in his perceived abilities and determination to achieve the best results for the country.

Wiki wrote:The United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, also known as the EU referendum and the Brexit referendum, was a referendum that took place on Thursday 23 June 2016 in the United Kingdom and Gibraltar to gauge support for the country's continued membership in the European Union. The referendum result was not legally binding

The Guardian wrote:Is the EU referendum legally binding?
Parliament is sovereign and, if Brexit wins, Cameron will not be legally obliged to invoke the Lisbon treaty to start an EU exit

The simple answer to the question as to whether the EU referendum is legally binding is “no”. In theory, in the event of a vote to leave the EU, David Cameron, who opposes Brexit, could decide to ignore the will of the people and put the question to MPs banking on a majority deciding to remain.

This is because parliament is sovereign and referendums are generally not binding in the UK.

An exception was the 2011 referendum on changing the electoral system to alternative vote, where the relevant legislation obligated the government to change the law to reflect a “yes” vote had that occurred. No such provision was contained within the EU referendum legislation.

In 1975, when the last vote on whether to stay in the EU (then the European economic community) was held, the rightwing Conservative MP Enoch Powell, unhappy about what he considered a loss of national sovereignty, argued that the result was merely provisional as it could not be legally binding on parliament.

If the British public votes on Thursday for Brexit it will be in the hands of Cameron to decide when to invoke article 50 of the Lisbon treaty, which represents formal notification of any decision to leave. The prime minister has said he would have to trigger it immediately after a vote, although this might have been a way of emphasising that there would be no going back, to people thinking of voting leave.

Some advocates of Brexit argue that discussions with other member states could start informally, without article 50 having to be invoked. There has even been the argument, made by some in the Brexit camp, that the mere threat of departure following a vote to leave could smooth the way to a better deal for Britain which could then be put to voters in a second referendum on EU membership.

The wrangling reflects the fact that there is no binding legal process to force Cameron to invoke article 50. In theory, he could ignore the public and disregard a Brexit vote. In practice he has repeatedly promised that the result will stick – and there may be no going back on that line now.

Ben Reilly wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Boris is a much more intelligent, capable and able politician/statesman/foreign secretary than you give him credit for...


He is typically English with his friendly well natured likeable charm and good humour... and so understated in his perceived abilities and determination to achieve the best results for the country.

Tommy Monk wrote:

Boris ... is typically English with his friendly well natured likeable charm and good humour...


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