London Stabbing: Knife Attack In Russell Square Leaves One Woman Dead and Five Injured

A woman has died and five people have been injured following a knife attack in central London on Wednesday night.
A 19-year-old was Tasered by police and arrested following the incident in Russell Square that began shortly before 10.30pm. He is now in police custody on suspicion of murder after being taken to hospital.
Six people were injured and a woman, believed to be in her 60s, was treated at the scene before being pronounced dead a short time later, the Metropolitan Police said.
Two people who were injured in the attack remain in hospital. Three others have been discharged, police said.

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I supose he had "mental problems".

nicko wrote:I supose he had "mental problems".

That is what it is claiming.

Seems to be the bog standard answer immediatelly after such attacks

Will wait and see what else comes out of this

He is a Somalian!

Because of course, people with coloured skin never have mental issues do they, and people with white skin with mental health problems have never killed and stabbed anyone have they!

nicko wrote:He is a Somalian!

So fucking what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

nicko wrote:He is a Somalian!

So likely to be Muslim then?

And that little exchange shows exactly what the two of you are.   Hoisted by your own words.

sassy wrote:And that little exchange shows exactly what the two of you are.   Hoisted by your own words.

What exactly is that?

Are you saying to rule out religion immediatelly based on what exactly?

So you are saying people should not question things now?

Muslim shouting 'Allah akbar' no doubt... nothing to do with islam... will be excused as 'mental health issues'...


Move along please... nothing to see here... and if you say it was anything to do with islam then you are a racist!

Maybe sassy is trying to say that believeing in Islam makes people mentally Ill?

I think that is a tad harsh, as there are plenty Muslims who are sound of mind and lovely people

Kevin Hurley, former lead on counter terrorism at City of London Police, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme the attack could have happened "any day of the week in any street in our cities, because there are lots of mentally disordered people who should be in hospital and who are out and about".
"This is not unusual. We should not jump to conclusions and say that this is terrorist-related."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36972126

I mean if he is mentally ill and from Norway, how on earth was he allowed into the country.
Again it still does not mean he could have been radicalized and would be even more prone and vunerable to be so if of course he has a mental illness

From the same link:

Mr Rowley, Britain's most senior counter-terrorism officer, said: "I emphasise that so far we have found no evidence of radicalisation that would suggest the man in our custody is in any way motivated by terrorism."

So far.
That is the point

Didge wrote:

nicko wrote:
He is a Somalian!

So likely to be Muslim then?

@ nicko --  I believe that you would mean a Somali  --  as 'Somalian' is the (anglicised) adjective for Somali..


@ Didge --  while the odds are that a Somalian person may most likely be Muslim, he could also be a Christian --  or even an atheist !        

And, probably less than 30% chance that he's either "radicalised" or has genuine terrorist links.


SO :   How many knifings have there been in London, England, Britain over the past year ?
How many were motivated by religion ?
How many were "terrorist related" ?
Or down to mental illness ?
Or just plain bad...      

Of course, he could just be a mentally ill man who happens to be born Somalian.

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Didge wrote:

So likely to be Muslim then?

@ nicko --  I believe that you would mean a Somali  --  as 'Somalian' is the (anglicised) adjective for Somali..


@ Didge --  while the odds are that a Somalian person may most likely be Muslim, he could also be a Christian --  or even an atheist !        

And, probably less than 30% chance that he's either "radicalised" or has genuine terrorist links.


SO :   How many knifings have there been in London, England, Britain over the past year ?
How many were motivated by religion ?
How many were "terrorist related" ?
Or down to mental illness ?
Or just plain bad...        

That is why I said likely and did not say he must be a Muslim Wolf.

I do not discount the fact he could be athiest or Christian.

Most knifings are gang related.

Now ask your questions to knifings in Israel Wolf if they are terrorist related?
Or many a Muslim country like Bangladsesh which has seen a spate of stabbings of athiests and Christians?

Its the immedate apologist reaction from sassy that is becoming tiresome

The problem is where there is any sort of attack immediatelly a claim of mental illness is presented and generally when the terrorist attack is an islamist. Its blatantly skewing the facts and trying to down play the religious connection.
It could very well be mental illness, of which I am not rulling out.
Which again, how was he allowed to enter this country if indeed he had such mental health problems that caused a danger to the public?

Quite silent and just as deadly ...sneaky bastard with a sharp object attacking people in the dark area of a park!  I abhor weapons, but a single shot might have scared the other victims into hiding/running calling for help - being warned that danger was nearby!    

Didge wrote:I mean if he is mentally ill and from Norway, how on earth was he allowed into the country.
Again it still does not mean he could have been radicalized and would be even more prone and vunerable to be so if of course he has a mental illness

   Hmmmm, you've ASSumed that your great nation does a litmus test for 'SANITY' prior to allowing people to access your sacred soil? 

     I so enjoy getting my morning jump start with some verbal dribble from the 'Physiology Class 101 - Didgey-Dooer'!    

4EVER2 wrote:Quite silent and just as deadly ...sneaky bastard with a sharp object attacking people in the dark area of a park!  I abhor weapons, but a single shot might have scared the other victims into hiding/running calling for help - being warned that danger was nearby!    

Didge wrote:I mean if he is mentally ill and from Norway, how on earth was he allowed into the country.
Again it still does not mean he could have been radicalized and would be even more prone and vunerable to be so if of course he has a mental illness

   Hmmmm, you've ASSumed that your great nation does a litmus test for 'SANITY' prior to allowing people to access your sacred soil? 

     I so enjoy getting my morning jump start with some verbal dribble from the 'Physiology Class 101 - Didgey-Dooer'!    

Sorry I cannot understand baby talk

Can someone translate
All I read was:

"goo goo ga ga"?

Anyone?

Immigration Act 1971

The Immigration Act 1971 regulates which foreigners can and cannot stay in the United Kingdom, makes provision for voluntary and compulsory repatriation, etc. Patients subject to the Mental Health Act 1983 may be deported under the Immigration Act or s86 of the 1983 Act as appropriate. The UK Borders Act 2007 imposes a duty to deport under the 1971 Act certain foreign criminals.

So again I make 4ever look really dimwitted

Funnily enough though Didge,there isn't a box on landing cards that you complete to say you are as mad as a bag of frogs or as extreme far right wing as some on Newsfix or Flop.
Madman don't have it tattooed on their foreheads heads. And Border Force staff are overwhelmed by staff cuts thanks to May's austerity.

Didge wrote:So again I make 4ever look really dimwitted

So says the Didgy-dooer that speaks in the 3rd person with his wall of 'certificates' that only he can see! 

But weren't you supposed to 'STAY ON TOPIC' or those rants just are for when your in the Hyde mood and don't give-A-rats-arse about forum decorum?

You seem to have had a blind spot to my POINT...try again "DIMWIT" 

Handy Andy wrote:Funnily enough though Didge,there isn't a box on landing cards that you complete to say you are as mad as a bag of frogs or as extreme far right wing as some on Newsfix or Flop.
Madman don't have it tattooed on their foreheads heads. And Border Force staff are overwhelmed by staff cuts thanks to May's  austerity.

Shhhhh, I was waiting for the 'fog' to clear up in his thought process and see if he'd be able to THINK THROUGH that BS, he'd posted.  
He's pretty smart don't cha know! 

4EVER2 wrote:

Handy Andy wrote:Funnily enough though Didge,there isn't a box on landing cards that you complete to say you are as mad as a bag of frogs or as extreme far right wing as some on Newsfix or Flop.
Madman don't have it tattooed on their foreheads heads. And Border Force staff are overwhelmed by staff cuts thanks to May's  austerity.

Shhhhh, I was waiting for the 'fog' to clear up in his thought process and see if he'd be able to THINK THROUGH that BS, he'd posted.  
He's pretty smart don't cha know! 

And of course,let's not ignore the fact he could have developed the problem after he got here (sigh)

Handy Andy wrote:Funnily enough though Didge,there isn't a box on landing cards that you complete to say you are as mad as a bag of frogs or as extreme far right wing as some on Newsfix or Flop.
Madman don't have it tattooed on their foreheads heads. And Border Force staff are overwhelmed by staff cuts thanks to May's  austerity.

No they do not handy, but they certainly have medical records, being as they claimed very quickly he suffered from mental health problems.
So where would they have gotten this information?
Norway by any chance?
If he was a danger then he should not have been able to walk the streets, as seen he was a danger to the public.
So what has it got to do with staff cuts here when he is a Norwegian Somalian?

4EVER2 wrote:

Handy Andy wrote:Funnily enough though Didge,there isn't a box on landing cards that you complete to say you are as mad as a bag of frogs or as extreme far right wing as some on Newsfix or Flop.
Madman don't have it tattooed on their foreheads heads. And Border Force staff are overwhelmed by staff cuts thanks to May's  austerity.

Shhhhh, I was waiting for the 'fog' to clear up in his thought process and see if he'd be able to THINK THROUGH that BS, he'd posted.  
He's pretty smart don't cha know! 

I am waiting for you to actually make a senseible point on anything since you joined this forum

As seen i easily addressed Andy's point

Now are you going to continue to attempt to derail another thread because you are acting like a 2 year old again and that I have to end up reporting you.

Its time you put the dummy back in your mouth, stop acting like a child and get on with debating

Thanks

sassy wrote:

4EVER2 wrote:
Shhhhh, I was waiting for the 'fog' to clear up in his thought process and see if he'd be able to THINK THROUGH that BS, he'd posted.  
He's pretty smart don't cha know! 

And of course,let's not ignore the fact he could have developed the problem after he got here (sigh)

And if we were to gauge anyone's IQ according to what they typed like ...well our resident 'wall plastered-highly self-anointed professor of NADA' would be listed right among those as > not quite right in the head, almost mentally deficient as to be in need of full time care!

But that's just my OPINION since he's opened this 'Pandora's Box' of his telling me what a 'Dimwit' I am and that he can't understand baby postings! 
I'm hoping he'll get that 'MIRROR' and do some serious reflective work on his self image!

4EVER2 wrote:

sassy wrote:
And of course,let's not ignore the fact he could have developed the problem after he got here (sigh)

And if we were to gauge anyone's IQ according to what they typed like ...well our resident 'wall plastered-highly self-anointed professor of NADA' would be listed right among those as > not quite right in the head, almost mentally deficient as to be in need of full time care!

But that's just my OPINION since he's opened this 'Pandora's Box' of his telling me what a 'Dimwit' I am and that he can't understand baby postings! 
I'm hoping he'll get that 'MIRROR' and do some serious reflective work on his self image!

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4EVER2 wrote:

sassy wrote:
And of course,let's not ignore the fact he could have developed the problem after he got here (sigh)

And if we were to gauge anyone's IQ according to what they typed like ...well our resident 'wall plastered-highly self-anointed professor of NADA' would be listed right among those as > not quite right in the head, almost mentally deficient as to be in need of full time care!

But that's just my OPINION since he's opened this 'Pandora's Box' of his telling me what a 'Dimwit' I am and that he can't understand baby postings! 
I'm hoping he'll get that 'MIRROR' and do some serious reflective work on his self image!

Didge flings abuse about daily, but hates it when anyone retaliates.   He's a big girl's blouse (except the blouse would probably have more guts to it.)

Didge wrote:

4EVER2 wrote:

Shhhhh, I was waiting for the 'fog' to clear up in his thought process and see if he'd be able to THINK THROUGH that BS, he'd posted.  
He's pretty smart don't cha know! 

I am waiting for you to actually make a senseible point on anything since you joined this forum

As seen i easily addressed Andy's point

Now are you going to continue to attempt to derail another thread because you are acting like a 2 year old again and that I have to end up reporting you.

Its time you put the dummy back in your mouth, stop acting like a child and get on with debating

Thanks

Did you Fuck, Didge. BF staff have no access to any medical records. Just the Immigration database. They also have to contend with huge queues, pressure from managers to shift the queues and make an assessment in short time based on evidence.

Handy Andy wrote:

Didge wrote:


I am waiting for you to actually make a senseible point on anything since you joined this forum

As seen i easily addressed Andy's point

Now are you going to continue to attempt to derail another thread because you are acting like a 2 year old again and that I have to end up reporting you.

Its time you put the dummy back in your mouth, stop acting like a child and get on with debating

Thanks

Did you Fuck, Didge.  BF staff have no access to any medical records. Just the Immigration database. They also have to contend with huge queues, pressure from managers to shift the queues and make an assessment in short time based on evidence.

So you are in agreement if he had mental health problems so severe that he placed a risk to the society, he should not have been allowed into the country then?
Do not give me feeble excuses Andy and watch your potty mouth

sassy wrote:

4EVER2 wrote:
And if we were to gauge anyone's IQ according to what they typed like ...well our resident 'wall plastered-highly self-anointed professor of NADA' would be listed right among those as > not quite right in the head, almost mentally deficient as to be in need of full time care!

But that's just my OPINION since he's opened this 'Pandora's Box' of his telling me what a 'Dimwit' I am and that he can't understand baby postings! 
I'm hoping he'll get that 'MIRROR' and do some serious reflective work on his self image!

Didge flings abuse about daily, but hates it when anyone retaliates.   He's a big girl's blouse (except the blouse would probably have more guts to it.)

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Handy Andy wrote:

Didge wrote:


I am waiting for you to actually make a senseible point on anything since you joined this forum

As seen i easily addressed Andy's point

Now are you going to continue to attempt to derail another thread because you are acting like a 2 year old again and that I have to end up reporting you.

Its time you put the dummy back in your mouth, stop acting like a child and get on with debating

Thanks

Did you Fuck, Didge.  BF staff have no access to any medical records. Just the Immigration database. They also have to contend with huge queues, pressure from managers to shift the queues and make an assessment in short time based on evidence.

Exactly.

Nowt wrong with my mouth Didge. You fucked up your argument because you are not in a position of knowledge on this matter. I am.
The ONLY person qualified to assess a persons mental state and sanity is a Mental health Doctor. I don't think they stand at the border controls or Customs channels.

I see the girly gang are off again, tag teaming

what part of dont stir the pot do you fail to understand sassy...
what part of ad hominem do you fail to understand 4ever

you have been warned on another thread...now I'm warning the both of you on here....

just to keep score

4 ever now has 2 warnings
sassy has one.....so far

there IS no 3rd.......

Handy Andy wrote:Nowt wrong with my mouth Didge. You fucked up your argument because you are not in a  position of knowledge on this matter.  I am.
The ONLY person qualified to assess a persons mental state and sanity is a Mental health Doctor.  I don't think they stand at the border controls or Customs channels.

Really Andy, as i am now working for the NHS again, where I have experince of working for them previously.
Again a doctor is the correct person, but if a doctor has made a mistake and released a patient into the public, wrongly and endangered lives, then the fault will lie with the doctor would it not.
So not only are you looking wrongly to do the bog standard hate Tory reply, but its baseless from the start

Lord Foul wrote:I see the girly gang are off again, tag teaming

what part of dont stir the pot do you fail to understand sassy...
what part of ad hominem do you fail to understand 4ever

you have been warned on another thread...now I'm warning the both of you on here....

just to keep score

4 ever now has 2 warnings
sassy has one.....so far

there IS no 3rd.......

It's called standing up for a mate when someone is misusing their power, and you are.   Gonna warn me about that are you.


Seems that Didge has got you right where he wants you with all his crawling.

We agree that Doctors are the proper people qualified to assess mental state.You questioned earlier "How was he allowed in the Country?" Answer that even an amoeba can understand.
"Because doctors do not man the Border control points."

4EVER2 wrote:

     I so enjoy getting my morning jump start with some verbal dribble from the 'Physiology Class 101 - Didgey-Dooer'!    

Just to point out where it started.

I would also like to make the point one of my qualifications is psychology
Not Physiology

Handy Andy wrote:We agree that Doctors are the proper people qualified to assess mental state.You questioned earlier "How was he allowed in the Country?" Answer that even an amoeba can understand.
"Because doctors do not man the Border control points."

You think he might understand that?

Handy Andy wrote:We agree that Doctors are the proper people qualified to assess mental state.You questioned earlier "How was he allowed in the Country?" Answer that even an amoeba can understand.
"Because doctors do not man the Border control points."

Again flawed reasoning.
If he was a threat to the public, how was he realsed into the public in Norway in the first place let alone allowed to leave the country?
So again you fail to see the root cause again

And I see LF is picking on Lefties again. Surprised I haven't been yellow carded yet.
Yet Didge is making wild,random rants about a subject he clearly knows little about.
At least we all know where we stand. Lefties v righties and the mods.

Didge wrote:

Handy Andy wrote:We agree that Doctors are the proper people qualified to assess mental state.You questioned earlier "How was he allowed in the Country?" Answer that even an amoeba can understand.
"Because doctors do not man the Border control points."

Again flawed reasoning.
If he was a threat to the public, how was he realsed into the public in Norway in the first place let alone allowed to leave the country?
So again you fail to see the root cause again

Ask the Norwegians.

Handy Andy wrote:And I see LF is picking on Lefties again. Surprised I haven't  been yellow carded yet.
Yet Didge is making wild,random rants about a subject he clearly knows little about.
At least we all know where we stand. Lefties v righties and the mods.

So nothing now on th debate just deflecting about posters.

Neither have been basemented.

I have and am RW

And Victor has basemented me as well as Eddie

So your point is invalid

Keep on topic Andy

Handy Andy wrote:

Didge wrote:

Again flawed reasoning.
If he was a threat to the public, how was he realsed into the public in Norway in the first place let alone allowed to leave the country?
So again you fail to see the root cause again

Ask the Norwegians.

So you now understand this is a possibility and something that needs to be investigated?

Yes?

Handy Andy wrote:And I see LF is picking on Lefties again. Surprised I haven't  been yellow carded yet.
Yet Didge is making wild,random rants about a subject he clearly knows little about.
At least we all know where we stand. Lefties v righties and the mods.

No HA...its more "educated vs uneducated"

you and the rest of your girly gang being the "great unwashed (and therefore uneducated)

as I have just shown in the zika thead....

Lord Foul wrote:

Handy Andy wrote:And I see LF is picking on Lefties again. Surprised I haven't  been yellow carded yet.
Yet Didge is making wild,random rants about a subject he clearly knows little about.
At least we all know where we stand. Lefties v righties and the mods.

No HA...its more "educated vs uneducated"

you and the rest of your girly gang being the "great unwashed (and therefore uneducated)

as I have just shown in the zika thead....

Does anyone need further proof that the rw mods on here regard lefties as part of an unwashed gang.
I find that fucking insulting.
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