Oklahoma lawmakers pass bill to criminalise abortion

Lawmakers in Oklahoma have passed a bill that would effectively ban abortion in the US state.
Under the controversial bill - passed by the Oklahoma state senate on Thursday with a vote of 33 to 12 - the act of performing an abortion would be made a crime. Any doctor found doing so, could face up to three years in prison and barred from practising in the state. The only exception to the bill – which calls abortion ‘unprofessional conduct’ - would be if the termination was to save a woman’s life. Abortion is legal in the US and critics say the bill is unconstitutional. Oklahoma currently has just two licensed abortion clinics, in the wake of new regulations being enforced. The legislation has yet to be passed by state Governor Mary Fallin, who has previously backed moves to limit abortion. Fallin is widely thought to be a potential running mate for Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump who, earlier this year, was forced to backtrack after saying women who had illegal abortions should be ‘punished’. Fallin has not yet commented on the bill. If she fails to sign it – or veto it – within five days, it will automatically become law.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/oklahoma-lawmakers-pass-bill-to-criminalise-abortion/


Religious idiocy at work again.

Yep! Flagrantly unconstitutional, and no chance of remaining on the books. Fallin should do the wise thing and veto it.

Ben_Reilly wrote:Yep! Flagrantly unconstitutional, and no chance of remaining on the books. Fallin should do the wise thing and veto it.

Sure it’s unconstitutional. For those who know baseball, it's a fat curve-ball right down the middle.

The US Supreme Court is right now at 4 – 4…four liberals and four conservatives. The next president will determine the make-up of the upcoming Court by appointing the tie-breaking justice.

What the Oklahoma legislature is doing is setting the stage by making sure a delicious case is waiting the new justice when he or she arrives.

Ben_Reilly wrote:Yep! Flagrantly unconstitutional, and no chance of remaining on the books. Fallin should do the wise thing and veto it.

And she 'DID' >

Okla. governor vetoes sweeping abortion ban bill
OKLAHOMA CITY - Governor Mary Fallin on Thursday vetoed a measure that would have banned abortion in …

One of the more enlightened Republicans.

She knows a bad fight when she see's it. What are the chances a Donald Trump gets elected?

So, what are the chances a liberal gets appointed to the Supreme Court?

So, what are the chances they knock back a case outlawing abortion?

Only the crazies in the party--of which there are many--will bet on a Republican victory this election cycle.

Only in America could this happens as well as introducing a religious law that allows discrmination of groups of people.
The Land of the Free

Not

Paul Ettinger wrote:Only in America could this happens as well as introducing a religious law that allows discrmination of groups of people.
The Land of the Free

Not

Tell me more about reproductive rights in Ireland!

4EVER2 wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:Yep! Flagrantly unconstitutional, and no chance of remaining on the books. Fallin should do the wise thing and veto it.

And she 'DID' >

Okla. governor vetoes sweeping abortion ban bill
OKLAHOMA CITY - Governor Mary Fallin on Thursday vetoed a measure that would have banned abortion in …

That's good, but I was kind of hoping to see it passed. That could have led to a Supreme Court decision that knocked down other states' abortion laws, much in the same way the court's striking down of DOMA led to gay marriage in all 50 states three years later.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Paul Ettinger wrote:Only in America could this happens as well as introducing a religious law that allows discrmination of groups of people.
The Land of the Free

Not

Tell me more about reproductive rights in Ireland!

I live in the UK.
So what has Eire to do with Britain, or is your argument now based personally on my mothers side of the family amd where some of them live?
Wow new low in pathetic

Paul Ettinger wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Tell me more about reproductive rights in Ireland!

I live in the UK.
So what has Eire to do with Britain, or is your argument now based personally on my mothers side of the family amd where some of them live?
Wow new low in pathetic

Nooooo, here's you at your NORMAL 'pathetic gutter crawling low moral bar' >

Re: So we have a troll called summer_rainbow
 by Paul Ettinger Today at 1:14 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:

Stop being so sexist and using sexual slurs - it's vulgar and against the rules.

How is trying to help you get laid and be a nice person being sexist?
You just invented claiming sexism, because you always claim victim after i continually show you up to be the idiot you are.
You seriously need to get laid
That is not being sexist, but trying to do the whole forum a favour and then ensure you become a decent human being.

Your repulsive/vulgar rants are beyond the pale ...you have the gall to preach to others about their posts and word choices!  SWEET JESUS,

4EVER2 wrote:

Paul Ettinger wrote:
I live in the UK.
So what has Eire to do with Britain, or is your argument now based personally on my mothers side of the family amd where some of them live?
Wow new low in pathetic

Nooooo, here's you at your NORMAL 'pathetic gutter crawling low moral bar' >

Re: So we have a troll called summer_rainbow
 by Paul Ettinger Today at 1:14 pm


How is trying to help you get laid and be a nice person being sexist?
You just invented claiming sexism, because you always claim victim after i continually show you up to be the idiot you are.
You seriously need to get laid
That is not being sexist, but trying to do the whole forum a favour and then ensure you become a decent human being.

Your repulsive/vulgar rants are beyond the pale ...you have the gall to preach to others about their posts and word choices!  SWEET JESUS,

Hilarious from 4everclueless who jumps in again and ignores what Rags has said

Hey ho but this has nothing to do with my point to Ben, proving you are nothing more than a worthless piece of shit, that I doubt most people would piss on if you were on fire.

Now you ugly fruggle, could you fuck off back up that humungeous arse of yours


Thanks

Oh and by the way do you want me to pull up the post you made to me about not being able to get liad with a blind hooker 4everclueless, proving you are no woman?

4EVER2 wrote:Yipper...the 'SELF - ANOINTED GRAND POPAA OF RAVING MANIACS' --- posted that massive utter misspelled - mental dribble and whines like a 'wee-little child' with his hands full of fecal matter because he's crapped his undies and now he's upset~~~  

got a lovely wet kiss for my favorite 'wee-little boy'

Do try to restrain your 'self-abuse'; I've been told that to much of that 'spanking your monkey' could cause relationship problems with the opposite sex --- as in YOU won't be able to maintain a 'BONER' because you've been the 'MASTER BATER' for far too long!
But then again; your social skills are so gutter speak low that the only possible chance you have of getting 'ANY' would be a 'for pay services' from a blind/deaf hooker! But I'll wish you good luck in that---do go wash up prior to touching that key board --- UGH, the germ factor has to be icky!

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t14214p50-regarding-our-new-members#272913

Paul Ettinger wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Paul Ettinger wrote:Only in America could this happens as well as introducing a religious law that allows discrmination of groups of people.
The Land of the Free

Not

Tell me more about reproductive rights in Ireland!

I live in the UK.
So what has Eire to do with Britain, or is your argument now based personally on my mothers side of the family amd where some of them live?
Wow new low in pathetic

Good God, Didge, you can't even keep track of what you yourself say. Let me remind you -- you said, "Only in America." As though this was a uniquely American problem. It's not. Try to keep up.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Paul Ettinger wrote:



I live in the UK.
So what has Eire to do with Britain, or is your argument now based personally on my mothers side of the family amd where some of them live?
Wow new low in pathetic

Good God, Didge, you can't even keep track of what you yourself say. Let me remind you -- you said, "Only in America." As though this was a uniquely American problem. It's not. Try to keep up.

Yes only in America where it still is ruled by religious rulings, even ireland is going to leap ahead of you on progression.

So my mistake two countries, and that makes you some how proud?

How exactly?

Paul Ettinger wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Paul Ettinger wrote:



I live in the UK.
So what has Eire to do with Britain, or is your argument now based personally on my mothers side of the family amd where some of them live?
Wow new low in pathetic

Good God, Didge, you can't even keep track of what you yourself say. Let me remind you -- you said, "Only in America." As though this was a uniquely American problem. It's not. Try to keep up.

Yes only in America where it still is ruled by religious rulings, even ireland is going to leap ahead of you on progression.

So my mistake two countries, and that makes you some how proud?

How exactly?

It's not just two countries, for fuck's sake!

Abortion illegal in all circumstances or permitted only to save a woman's life.

South America:
Brazil, Colombia, Chile, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Gustamala, Haiti, Honduras, Mexico, Nigaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Venezuela,

Sub-Saharan Africa:
Angola, Benin, Central African Rep.Chad, Congo, Côte d'Ivoire, Dem. Rep. of Congo, Gabon, Guinea- Bissau, Kenya, Lesotho, Madagascar, Mali, Mauretania, Mauritius, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Somalia, Tanzania, Togo, Uganda.

Middle East and North Africa:
Afghanistan, Egypt, Iran, Lebanon, Libya, Oman, Sudan (r), Syria, United Arab Emirates, Yemen.

Asia and Pacific:
Bangladesh, Indonesia, Laos, Myanmar, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, Sri Lanka.

Europe:
Ireland, Malta.

Abortion legally permitted only to save a woman's life or protect her physical health.

The Americas and the Caribbean:
Argentina, Bolivia, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Peru

Sub-Saharan Africa:
Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Guinea, Malawi, Mozambique, Zimbabwe

Middle East and North Africa:
Kuwait, Morocco, Saudi Arabi

Asia and Pacific:
Pakistan, South Korea, Thailand

Europe:
Poland

http://www.womenonwaves.org/en/page/460/abortion-laws-worldwide

And who the hell said anything about pride?

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Paul Ettinger wrote:

Yes only in America where it still is ruled by religious rulings, even ireland is going to leap ahead of you on progression.

So my mistake two countries, and that makes you some how proud?

How exactly?

It's not just two countries, for fuck's sake!

Abortion illegal in all circumstances or permitted only to save a woman's life.

South America:
Brazil, Colombia, Chile, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Gustamala, Haiti, Honduras, Mexico, Nigaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Venezuela,

Sub-Saharan Africa:
Angola, Benin, Central African Rep.Chad, Congo, Côte d'Ivoire, Dem. Rep. of Congo, Gabon, Guinea- Bissau, Kenya, Lesotho, Madagascar, Mali, Mauretania, Mauritius, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Somalia, Tanzania, Togo, Uganda.

Middle East and North Africa:
Afghanistan, Egypt, Iran, Lebanon, Libya, Oman, Sudan (r), Syria, United Arab Emirates, Yemen.

Asia and Pacific:
Bangladesh, Indonesia, Laos, Myanmar, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, Sri Lanka.

Europe:
Ireland, Malta.

Abortion legally permitted only to save a woman's life or protect her physical health.

The Americas and the Caribbean:
Argentina, Bolivia, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Peru

Sub-Saharan Africa:
Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Guinea, Malawi, Mozambique, Zimbabwe

Middle East and North Africa:
Kuwait, Morocco, Saudi Arabi

Asia and Pacific:
Pakistan, South Korea, Thailand

Europe:
Poland

http://www.womenonwaves.org/en/page/460/abortion-laws-worldwide

These4 are all western democracies

You thick idiot ha ha

Paul Ettinger wrote:

4EVER2 wrote:
Nooooo, here's you at your NORMAL 'pathetic gutter crawling low moral bar' >

Your repulsive/vulgar rants are beyond the pale ...you have the gall to preach to others about their posts and word choices!  SWEET JESUS,

Hilarious from 4everclueless who jumps in again and ignores what Rags has said
Hey ho but this has nothing to do with my point to Ben, proving you are nothing more than a worthless piece of shit, that I doubt most people would piss on if you were on fire.
Now you ugly fruggle, could you fuck off back up that humungeous arse of yours
Thanks

Oh, it's getting even better, Ben; now he's trolling me and accusing me of being a dual 'Irn' ...how's that for insanity?

But seriously ...after all of the rabid/vile spewing crap he's dumped on Ragg's --- it's appears that our Didgy-dooer has a humongous-ass fetish and seems highly preoccupied by posting rather sexual deviant repetitious cravings about them? 

Ben_Reilly wrote:And who the hell said anything about pride?

You are right, there is nothing to be proud about in your case being a regressive Yank who now thinks all countries are western?

Dipshit ha ha ha

4EVER2 wrote:

Paul Ettinger wrote:
Hilarious from 4everclueless who jumps in again and ignores what Rags has said
Hey ho but this has nothing to do with my point to Ben, proving you are nothing more than a worthless piece of shit, that I doubt most people would piss on if you were on fire.
Now you ugly fruggle, could you fuck off back up that humungeous arse of yours
Thanks

Oh, it's getting even better, Ben; now he's trolling me and accusing me of being a dual 'Irn' ...how's that for insanity?

But seriously ...after all of the rabid/vile spewing crap he's dumped on Ragg's --- it's appears that our Didgy-dooer has a humongous-ass fetish and seems highly preoccupied by posting rather sexual deviant repetitious cravings about them? 

No fuckface, you jumped in here, not me following you


And you are answering my post dummy


Now fuck off off your fat arse you lying fake person

Paul Ettinger wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Paul Ettinger wrote:

Yes only in America where it still is ruled by religious rulings, even ireland is going to leap ahead of you on progression.

So my mistake two countries, and that makes you some how proud?

How exactly?

It's not just two countries, for fuck's sake!

Abortion illegal in all circumstances or permitted only to save a woman's life.

South America:
Brazil, Colombia, Chile, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Gustamala, Haiti, Honduras, Mexico, Nigaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Venezuela,

Sub-Saharan Africa:
Angola, Benin, Central African Rep.Chad, Congo, Côte d'Ivoire, Dem. Rep. of Congo, Gabon, Guinea- Bissau, Kenya, Lesotho, Madagascar, Mali, Mauretania, Mauritius, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Somalia, Tanzania, Togo, Uganda.

Middle East and North Africa:
Afghanistan, Egypt, Iran, Lebanon, Libya, Oman, Sudan (r), Syria, United Arab Emirates, Yemen.

Asia and Pacific:
Bangladesh, Indonesia, Laos, Myanmar, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, Sri Lanka.

Europe:
Ireland, Malta.

Abortion legally permitted only to save a woman's life or protect her physical health.

The Americas and the Caribbean:
Argentina, Bolivia, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Peru

Sub-Saharan Africa:
Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Guinea, Malawi, Mozambique, Zimbabwe

Middle East and North Africa:
Kuwait, Morocco, Saudi Arabi

Asia and Pacific:
Pakistan, South Korea, Thailand

Europe:
Poland

http://www.womenonwaves.org/en/page/460/abortion-laws-worldwide

 


These4 are all western democracies

You thick idiot ha ha

There are a number of Western democracies on that list. Or are Poland, Mexico, Malta and Brazil not Western democracies? Many would argue S. Korea is culturally a western democracy, in that they're highly Westernized and democratic.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Paul Ettinger wrote:


 


These4 are all western democracies

You thick idiot ha ha

There are a number of Western democracies on that list. Or are Poland, Mexico, Malta and Brazil not Western democracies? Many would argue S. Korea is culturally a western democracy, in that they're highly Westernized and democratic.

There is 2, Malta and ireland


That is it

South American are second world nations, who are still regressive with religion and not western secular nations as the US is meant to be.
You forget, these laws have been that way for years
In the US its going backwards by passing them this year

Are you sertiously that stupid?

Paul Ettinger wrote:

No fuckface, you jumped in here, not me following you
And you are answering my post dummy
Now fuck off off your fat arse you lying fake person

Nope ...I was post #3; but you've got a huge selective memory problem! 
Rather understandable really ...when you seem so sexually frustrated and obsessed about women with 'fat arses' --- my-my-my  

But I'm quite enjoying listening to your little    squealing when the tables are turned and you're getting exactly what you serve up to other members and especially 'ME'! 

Irn's going to really enjoy the paranoia that you've just 'anointed me with his IP#' and now your superior ability to sleuth all things to the ninth degree - because I busted you while doing a topic search! 
Scream & Squeal little piggy ...I do enjoy the play back.
I'll leave you to be used and abused by Ben's superior intellect ...it's quite a fascinating read!

4EVER2 wrote:

Paul Ettinger wrote:

Nope ...I was post #3; but you've got a huge selective memory problem! 
Rather understandable really ...when you seem so sexually frustrated and obsessed about women with 'fat arses' --- my-my-my  

But I'm quite enjoying listening to your little    squealing when the tables are turned and you're getting exactly what you serve up to other members and especially 'ME'! 

Irn's going to really enjoy the paranoia that you've just 'anointed me with his IP#' and now your superior ability to sleuth all things to the ninth degree - because I busted you while doing a topic search! 
Scream & Squeal little piggy ...I do enjoy the play back.
I'll leave you to be used and abused by Ben's superior intellect ...it's quite a fascinating read!

He's smokin' some of that Kansas hemp, there 4EVA. They call it writing while tripping...

OMG ...Quill,

4EVER2 wrote:

Paul Ettinger wrote:

Nope ...I was post #3; but you've got a huge selective memory problem! 
Rather understandable really ...when you seem so sexually frustrated and obsessed about women with 'fat arses' --- my-my-my  

But I'm quite enjoying listening to your little    squealing when the tables are turned and you're getting exactly what you serve up to other members and especially 'ME'! 

Irn's going to really enjoy the paranoia that you've just 'anointed me with his IP#' and now your superior ability to sleuth all things to the ninth degree - because I busted you while doing a topic search! 
Scream & Squeal little piggy ...I do enjoy the play back.
I'll leave you to be used and abused by Ben's superior intellect ...it's quite a fascinating read!

lol back track time alert


Listen, you are an insignificanty idiot man parading fasely as a woman

Its pathetic and embarressing.

But please contionue, as you certainly are a female version of Quill

Two insecure in need of inventing their lives in order to feel good about themselves.

Enjoy that

Night

4EVER2 wrote:

Paul Ettinger wrote:
I live in the UK.
So what has Eire to do with Britain, or is your argument now based personally on my mothers side of the family amd where some of them live?
Wow new low in pathetic

Nooooo, here's you at your NORMAL 'pathetic gutter crawling low moral bar' >

Re: So we have a troll called summer_rainbow
 by Paul Ettinger Today at 1:14 pm


How is trying to help you get laid and be a nice person being sexist?
You just invented claiming sexism, because you always claim victim after i continually show you up to be the idiot you are.
You seriously need to get laid
That is not being sexist, but trying to do the whole forum a favour and then ensure you become a decent human being.

Your repulsive/vulgar rants are beyond the pale ...you have the gall to preach to others about their posts and word choices!  SWEET JESUS,

Post jumping in on me and off topic, looking to start


Busted

Paul Ettinger wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Paul Ettinger wrote:


 


These4 are all western democracies

You thick idiot ha ha

There are a number of Western democracies on that list. Or are Poland, Mexico, Malta and Brazil not Western democracies? Many would argue S. Korea is culturally a western democracy, in that they're highly Westernized and democratic.

There is 2, Malta and ireland


That is it

South American are second world nations, who are still regressive with religion and not western secular nations as the US is meant to be.
You forget, these laws have been that way for years
In the US its going backwards by passing them this year

Are you sertiously that stupid?

Eurocentric rubbish
South America is western secular. more so than a lot of Europe, the benchmark being the US system.
and so is South Korea economically and politically

Dear Oklahoma,

Stay out of my uterus.

Thanks much.
Cass

veya_victaous wrote:

Paul Ettinger wrote:

There is 2, Malta and ireland


That is it

South American are second world nations, who are still regressive with religion and not western secular nations as the US is meant to be.
You forget, these laws have been that way for years
In the US its going backwards by passing them this year

Are you sertiously that stupid?

Eurocentric rubbish
South America is western secular. more so than a lot of Europe, the benchmark being the US system.
and so is South Korea economically and politically  

NOT ONLY is Brazil a First World westernised country...

THEY ALSO have/will soon have the 6th largest economy in the world (growing so fast in recent years (like India..) that the rankings haven't been keeping up..).

HAVING leapfrogged France, Britain and Russia, while they've been focused elsewhere !

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

Eurocentric rubbish
South America is western secular. more so than a lot of Europe, the benchmark being the US system.
and so is South Korea economically and politically  

NOT ONLY is Brazil a First World westernised country...

THEY ALSO have/will soon have the 6th largest economy in the world (growing so fast in recent years (like India..) that the rankings haven't been keeping up..).

HAVING leapfrogged France, Britain and Russia, while they've been focused elsewhere  !

Wow and you think that makes its citizens have all equal rights?

Again its Christianity that is the issue and countless live in poverty

Dear me, abortions are still permitted for rape victims and medical problems there also. thus its not worse than the US.

Also you are talking bullshit



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