UN Again deny Self-Determination of the Falkland Islanders- (Update-Cameron Tells UN to get stuffed)

Raggamuffin wrote:

Didge wrote:


Exactly, as the referendum places them as wanting to remain British with a Falkland identity which is what I said rags

Irn basically wants to insult the memory of those who died recapturing the islands, by saying to stop defending the islands.
Sorry but I find that disgusting

To be fair, he did take the view that if the Islanders don't identify with being British, he didn't want British soldiers laying down their lives for them.

Didge wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

To be fair, he did take the view that if the Islanders don't identify with being British, he didn't want British soldiers laying down their lives for them.

They do though through the referendum
It does not matter if they also wish to identify as being Falkland islanders as well
Its like him saying by identifying as a Scot, then automatically denies him identifying as British, which would be absurd.
He is just a regressive who wishes to mock the memory of those who gave their lives in defense of the islands

Raggamuffin wrote:Anyway, there is indeed a section on the Scottish census form where they fill in a box to say what they feel is their national identity, and they can choose more than one option. If a majority of them chose Scottish only, then yes, Bru's point should be challenged. One could say it's a different situation though because the Scots would contribute to the armed forces if England was attacked.

Raggamuffin wrote:Just looking at the Scottish census form, I see that the English have been excluded in the question about ethnic groups, and either have to say they're "other British" or write in that they're English. The Poles have their own box though, as do the Irish and "travellers".  I seem to remember a similar problem with our census form.

Anyway, that's a bit off topic.

Eilzel wrote:Many English people see themselves as English first, British second, so it would be no surprise some Scots did the same.

Eilzel wrote:Many English people see themselves as English first, British second, so it would be no surprise some Scots did the same.

Eilzel wrote:Back to the islands. It is interesting that the French own a sizeable chunk of land in the north of the S.American mainland in Guiana- why is that never raised? At least the Falklands are disconnected by sea- French Guiana has borders with numerous countries yet no one ever says they have no right to that 'New World' territory.

Eilzel wrote:I guesss the fact the people want to remain part of France counts for something there then. It would be interesting if any of those countries suddenly lay a claim to it, how would the world respond?

sassy wrote:

Eilzel wrote:I guesss the fact the people want to remain part of France counts for something there then. It would be interesting if any of those countries suddenly lay a claim to it, how would the world respond?

 would be very difficult for them to lay a claim to a country recognised as part of the EU, using the euro and with the space centre there. They even has a division of the Paris fire service there to keep the space centre safe.

Irn Bru wrote:What is disgusting Didge is your attempt at a hatched job and smear campaign in using the death of British soldiers to try and score cheap points with made up nonsense based on past grudges that still lurk within you? I never thought I got to you to the extent that I have but iy’s worse than I thought. You see Didge, I never said we shouldn’t defend the Islands and I never even implied that we shouldn’t. The point made is that the people that chose not to be British should bear in mind that over 250 British soldiers died and many more were maimed and injured so that they could be British something that skipped over that tiny little head of yours. And there were people on the islands that were proud to be British so they had to be defended along with everyone else but I suppose you never thought of them – well you did but anything to bolster your trumped up nonsense just to score points.
I supported the retaking of the Islands from a tinpot dictator and whilst you were probably sitting on your arse in a hot air factory producing hot air which is something you excel at  I was actually supporting the efforts being made. Oh my you have done well after all those years still stuck in a factory and still on the clock
And you posting up a picture of the Tory appeaser Chamberlain is a classic for you considering you couldn’t bring yourself to show contempt at those traitors that collaborated with the Nazi’s probably causing the death of many allied troops and those in the death camps just because you were half Irish. You were asked to do it three times and you still wouldn’t do it. And when pointed out that Eamon De Valera signed the book of condolences for the death of Adolph Hitler you laughed. Yes Didge, you thought it was funny and you laughed.
You are a disgusting little man who always returns to my nationality. And  given your stance on the Nazi collaborators I think you really have some explaining to do.

Irn Bru wrote:What is disgusting Didge is your attempt at a hatched job and smear campaign in using the death of British soldiers to try and score cheap points with made up nonsense based on past grudges that still lurk within you? I never thought I got to you to the extent that I have but iy’s worse than I thought. You see Didge, I never said we shouldn’t defend the Islands and I never even implied that we shouldn’t. The point made is that the people that chose not to be British should bear in mind that over 250 British soldiers died and many more were maimed and injured so that they could be British something that skipped over that tiny little head of yours. And there were people on the islands that were proud to be British so they had to be defended along with everyone else but I suppose you never thought of them – well you did but anything to bolster your trumped up nonsense just to score points.
I supported the retaking of the Islands from a tinpot dictator and whilst you were probably sitting on your arse in a hot air factory producing hot air which is something you excel at  I was actually supporting the efforts being made. Oh my you have done well after all those years still stuck in a factory and still on the clock
And you posting up a picture of the Tory appeaser Chamberlain is a classic for you considering you couldn’t bring yourself to show contempt at those traitors that collaborated with the Nazi’s probably causing the death of many allied troops and those in the death camps just because you were half Irish. You were asked to do it three times and you still wouldn’t do it. And when pointed out that Eamon De Valera signed the book of condolences for the death of Adolph Hitler you laughed. Yes Didge, you thought it was funny and you laughed.
You are a disgusting little man who always returns to my nationality. And  given your stance on the Nazi collaborators I think you really have some explaining to do.

Irn Bru wrote:Around half the current population of the Falklands are immigrants who weren't even born there and of the total population only around 27% are actually British. Around 67% of the population see their nationality as Falkland Islanders as opposed to being British.

Maybe we should tell the 67% to defend themselves then instead of expecting British taxpayers to pick up the bill for defending them and our soldiers laying down their lives o protect them.

Tommy Monk wrote:What about the UK peoples right to self determination?

Vote out of the EU dictatorship in June! !!