Isn't it time this brutal 'sport' was banned?

by Syl Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:13 pm

Yet another boxer seriously ill in an induced coma in hospital.
We frown on dog/cock/any other animal fighting, but encourage one human being to beat another human being to a pulp....all in the name of sport.
http://news.sky.com/story/1667832/boxer-blackwell-in-coma-after-eubank-fight

by Raggamuffin Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:16 pm

Nah - it's up to them isn't it? Animals can't make that choice for themselves.

by Syl Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:23 pm

But some of the boxers can barely string two coherent words together, it's the only way they can earn money....I know unlike animals they do have a choice, but I still think it's barbaric.

by 'Wolfie Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:23 pm

Syl wrote:Yet another boxer seriously ill in an induced coma in hospital.
We frown on dog/cock/any other animal fighting, but encourage one human being to beat another human being to a pulp....all in the name of sport.
http://news.sky.com/story/1667832/boxer-blackwell-in-coma-after-eubank-fight

DO YOU really believe that you can stop two boofheads who choose to punch each others' lights out, Syl ???

NOBODY forces them to take up that sport, do they?
WOULD you rather see some sociopathic hooligan thug like Dodger thumping innocent football supporters ? OR maybe illegal and unregulated cage fights..

AT LEAST with boxing and other contact Martial arts, they have rules and regulations, and referees, and usually some kind of medical help...

MAYBE you reckon they should take up flower arranging, instead ?

JUST PERSONALLY, I say they should ban Ballroom dancing -- is there anything more silly looking, embarrasing for the majority, or so pointless and unproductive ?
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by HoratioTarr Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:37 pm

Syl wrote:Yet another boxer seriously ill in an induced coma in hospital.
We frown on dog/cock/any other animal fighting, but encourage one human being to beat another human being to a pulp....all in the name of sport.
http://news.sky.com/story/1667832/boxer-blackwell-in-coma-after-eubank-fight

Some people just can't take the punches.

by Syl Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:55 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Syl wrote:Yet another boxer seriously ill in an induced coma in hospital.
We frown on dog/cock/any other animal fighting, but encourage one human being to beat another human being to a pulp....all in the name of sport.
http://news.sky.com/story/1667832/boxer-blackwell-in-coma-after-eubank-fight

DO YOU really believe that you can stop two boofheads who choose to punch each others' lights out, Syl ???

Maybe not, but they are encouraged for the simple reason hat they make other people rich

NOBODY forces them to take up that sport, do they?

Nope...but like you just said they are boofheads, most don't have much intelligence.

WOULD you rather see some sociopathic hooligan thug like Dodger thumping innocent football supporters ? OR maybe illegal and unregulated cage fights..

Sociapathic hooligans should be in prison so others don't have to see that. Cage fighting like cock fighting should be banned.

AT LEAST with boxing and other contact Martial arts, they have rules and regulations, and referees, and usually some kind of medical help...

The ref wasn't much use in this latest fight was he?

MAYBE you reckon they should take up flower arranging, instead ?
Good idea....less likely to end up in an induced coma.

JUST PERSONALLY, I say they should ban Ballroom dancing -- is there anything more silly looking, embarrasing for the majority, or so pointless and unproductive ?

Apart from the odd crushed toe ballroom dancing is a pretty inoffensive past time.

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by Syl Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:03 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
Syl wrote:Yet another boxer seriously ill in an induced coma in hospital.
We frown on dog/cock/any other animal fighting, but encourage one human being to beat another human being to a pulp....all in the name of sport.
http://news.sky.com/story/1667832/boxer-blackwell-in-coma-after-eubank-fight

Some people just can't take the punches.

Most boxers can take a lot of punches, but it's uncivilised to batter someone to a pulp for the entertainment of others.

by Tommy Monk Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:10 pm

Someone died after being hit by a cricket ball recently... Rugby and football causes countless serious injuries every year... and then there's F1 and other motor sports... and a cyclist died over the weekend in a race...

If you are going to try to ban something for a reason... then you must apply this to all, (in the name of equality mind), so then where does the banning stop...!?

by Guest Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:12 pm

What is there not to love??

by Guest Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:15 pm

My Uncle second person in the photo

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by Syl Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:19 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Someone died after being hit by a cricket ball recently... Rugby and football causes countless serious injuries every year... and then there's F1 and other motor sports... and a cyclist died over the weekend in a race...

If you are going to try to ban something for a reason... then you must apply this to all, (in the name of equality mind), so then where does the banning stop...!?

There are risks with everything, but boxing just encourages one person to beat another up.
I don't see it as a sport anyway.

by Guest Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:21 pm

Syl wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Someone died after being hit by a cricket ball recently... Rugby and football causes countless serious injuries every year... and then there's F1 and other motor sports... and a cyclist died over the weekend in a race...

If you are going to try to ban something for a reason... then you must apply this to all, (in the name of equality mind), so then where does the banning stop...!?

There are risks with everything, but boxing just encourages one person to beat another up.
I don't see it as a sport anyway.

Which is down to the right of the individual and not you
People are way more likely to die from smoking, driving a car, drinking etc, than from boxing

So how about you stop interfering in peoples lives

by Victorismyhero Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:24 pm

Its a risk the participants know they are taking....

just like the guy that falls off a mountain

or runs out of air at 20 fathoms

or rams his vehicle into a barrier at 200mph......

or........

by Victorismyhero Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:25 pm

Didge wrote:
Syl wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Someone died after being hit by a cricket ball recently... Rugby and football causes countless serious injuries every year... and then there's F1 and other motor sports... and a cyclist died over the weekend in a race...

If you are going to try to ban something for a reason... then you must apply this to all, (in the name of equality mind), so then where does the banning stop...!?

There are risks with everything, but boxing just encourages one person to beat another up.
I don't see it as a sport anyway.

Which is down to the right of the individual and not you
People are way more likely to die from smoking, driving a car, drinking etc, than from boxing

So how about you stop interfering in peoples lives

how about YOU stop being so agressive huh?

or isnt syl allowed an opinion?

by Syl Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:26 pm

Didge wrote:
Syl wrote:
There are risks with everything, but boxing just encourages one person to beat another up.
I don't see it as a sport anyway.

Which is down to the right of the individual and not you
People are way more likely to die from smoking, driving a car, drinking etc, than from boxing

So how about you stop interfering in peoples lives

It's an opinion ...this is a forum, and boxing and it's devastating result of a fight has been in the news.

As for 'interfering' you are the worst poster on this forum for barging in with unwanted interference....leave the thread if it offends you.

by Syl Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:27 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
Didge wrote:

Which is down to the right of the individual and not you
People are way more likely to die from smoking, driving a car, drinking etc, than from boxing

So how about you stop interfering in peoples lives

how about YOU stop being so agressive huh?

or isnt syl allowed an opinion?

Thank you LF...I have just said as much myself. Laughing

by Guest Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:28 pm

Syl wrote:
Didge wrote:

Which is down to the right of the individual and not you
People are way more likely to die from smoking, driving a car, drinking etc, than from boxing

So how about you stop interfering in peoples lives

It's an opinion ...this is a forum, and boxing and it's devastating result of a fight has been in the news.

As for 'interfering' you are the worst poster on this forum for barging in with unwanted interference....leave the thread if it offends you.

You are trying to impose a ban on boxing, which is more than an opinion

Its not up to you what people do with their lives

They know the risks, thus its their choice not yours

Your views on me just prove what a fucking retard you are as your views on me are irrlevant

by Guest Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:30 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
Didge wrote:

Which is down to the right of the individual and not you
People are way more likely to die from smoking, driving a car, drinking etc, than from boxing

So how about you stop interfering in peoples lives

how about YOU stop being so agressive huh?

or isnt syl allowed an opinion?

So now you understand psychology

Get stuffed you annoying idiot, I have broken no rules so get stuffed

by Tommy Monk Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:31 pm

Syl wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Someone died after being hit by a cricket ball recently... Rugby and football causes countless serious injuries every year... and then there's F1 and other motor sports... and a cyclist died over the weekend in a race...

If you are going to try to ban something for a reason... then you must apply this to all, (in the name of equality mind), so then where does the banning stop...!?

There are risks with everything, but boxing just encourages one person to beat another up.
I don't see it as a sport anyway.

What about other contact sports...?

Like judo or fencing...?

by Raggamuffin Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:31 pm

Syl wrote:
Didge wrote:

Which is down to the right of the individual and not you
People are way more likely to die from smoking, driving a car, drinking etc, than from boxing

So how about you stop interfering in peoples lives

It's an opinion ...this is a forum, and boxing and it's devastating result of a fight has been in the news.

As for 'interfering' you are the worst poster on this forum for barging in with unwanted interference....leave the thread if it offends you.

There's nothing wrong with the question, and you're right, it does cause damage at times. I just think that people do know that, and they still choose to do it.

by Victorismyhero Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:32 pm

I'll can you for disruption didge...... Twisted Evil

by Guest Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:33 pm

Lord Foul wrote:I'll can you for disruption didge......

So over stepping your authority, like banning m,e before for not believing a person's story

Yes I know your past track record

So you admit to making it personal now thus negating your position

Grow up and show some balance

by Victorismyhero Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:40 pm

nothing personal at all didge...you have too high an opinion of yourself....

you ARE disrupting...so no "overstepping" involved

now climb down outta your tree and have a kit kat....

by Syl Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:40 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Syl wrote:
There are risks with everything, but boxing just encourages one person to beat another up.
I don't see it as a sport anyway.

What about other contact sports...?

Like judo or fencing...?

In judo and fencing the object isn't to beat someone to a pulp.

by Guest Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:41 pm

Lord Foul wrote:nothing personal at all didge...you have too high an opinion of yourself....

you ARE disrupting...so no "overstepping" involved

now climb down outta your tree and have a kit kat....

So now being in disagreement where someone wished to impose a ban, is disrupting to you, which you wrongly interpret as aggressive

One word

Bullshit

by Syl Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:43 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Syl wrote:

It's an opinion ...this is a forum, and boxing and it's devastating result of a fight has been in the news.

As for 'interfering' you are the worst poster on this forum for barging in with unwanted interference....leave the thread if it offends you.

There's nothing wrong with the question, and you're right, it does cause damage at times. I just think that people do know that, and they still choose to do it.

I think often times people are persuaded to do it....plus it earns them money and they probably don't have the intelligence to earn much any other way.
In a way that's cruel in itself....young lads being trained to batter others and get battered in return,

by Guest Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:43 pm

Didge wrote:
Syl wrote:
There are risks with everything, but boxing just encourages one person to beat another up.
I don't see it as a sport anyway.

Which is down to the right of the individual and not you
People are way more likely to die from smoking, driving a car, drinking etc, than from boxing

So how about you stop interfering in peoples lives

The above is not aggressive

So you are talking bull Victor

by Syl Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:45 pm

Didge wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:nothing personal at all didge...you have too high an opinion of yourself....

you ARE disrupting...so no "overstepping" involved

now climb down outta your tree and have a kit kat....

So now being in disagreement where someone wished to impose a ban, is disrupting to you, which you wrongly interpret as aggressive

One word

Bullshit

Cant you tippy toe back to one of the other threads you have ruined with your constant whining and leave this one for the grown ups to talk in? Rolling Eyes

Back on ignore you go.

by Guest Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:46 pm

Syl wrote:
Didge wrote:

So now being in disagreement where someone wished to impose a ban, is disrupting to you, which you wrongly interpret as aggressive

One word

Bullshit

Cant you tippy toe back to one of the other threads you have ruined with your constant whining and leave this one for the grown ups to talk in?
Back on ignore you go.

No because just like religious people who think they can impose their beliefs onto others, I will rightly tell someone they are out of line as I believe you are.
Many people make a life out of boxing and the fact you do not oppose many other aspects far dangerous like driving makes you an utter hypocrite

by Tommy Monk Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:47 pm

Syl wrote:
Didge wrote:

Which is down to the right of the individual and not you
People are way more likely to die from smoking, driving a car, drinking etc, than from boxing

So how about you stop interfering in peoples lives

It's an opinion ...this is a forum, and boxing and it's devastating result of a fight has been in the news.

As for 'interfering' you are the worst poster on this forum for barging in with unwanted interference....leave the thread if it offends you.

Yes... it's an opinion... a totally valid opinion... and has every right to be held/voiced/debated as any and every other opinion!!!

Why do some posters here think they have the right to try to shout down/silence/remove opinions and posts that they don't like...!?

And be rude and insulting towards people for having a valid opinion that they don't like...!?

by Raggamuffin Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:48 pm

Syl wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

There's nothing wrong with the question, and you're right, it does cause damage at times. I just think that people do know that, and they still choose to do it.

I think often times people are persuaded to do it....plus it earns them money and they probably don't have the intelligence to earn much any other way.
In a way that's cruel in itself....young lads being trained to batter others and get battered in return,

What about the ones who want to do it though? They're not persuaded. Anyway, if people can be persuaded, they obviously want to do it - they're not being forced.

by Guest Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:49 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Syl wrote:

It's an opinion ...this is a forum, and boxing and it's devastating result of a fight has been in the news.

As for 'interfering' you are the worst poster on this forum for barging in with unwanted interference....leave the thread if it offends you.

Yes... it's an opinion... a totally valid opinion... and has every right to be held/voiced/debated as any and every other opinion!!!

Why do some posters here think they have the right to try to shout down/silence/remove opinions and posts that they don't like...!?

And be rude and insulting towards people for having a valid opinion that they don't like...!?

Its not shouting down but showing the hypocrisy of people in what they want banned

At the end of the day people have a right to do as they chose to do, when it is their choice where they do not knowingly wish to harm others.
Two boxers knowingly go into the ring knowing the risks

by Victorismyhero Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:51 pm

tell you what didge...I'll hand you over to one of the other mods...how about that???

by Guest Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:52 pm

Lord Foul wrote:tell you what didge...I'll hand you over to one of the other mods...how about that???

Do as you want

by Syl Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:53 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Syl wrote:

I think often times people are persuaded to do it....plus it earns them money and they probably don't have the intelligence to earn much any other way.
In a way that's cruel in itself....young lads being trained to batter others and get battered in return,

What about the ones who want to do it though? They're not persuaded. Anyway, if people can be persuaded, they obviously want to do it - they're not being forced.

I don't deny some want to do it Rags, some want to organise dog and cock fighting too....but they are banned.

People can definitely be persuaded to do things they may not want to...especially if they don't have much going for them re earning money.

by Raggamuffin Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:54 pm

Syl wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

What about the ones who want to do it though? They're not persuaded. Anyway, if people can be persuaded, they obviously want to do it - they're not being forced.

I don't deny some want to do it Rags, some want to organise dog and cock fighting too....but they are banned.

People can definitely be persuaded to do things they may not want to...especially if they don't have much going for them re earning money.

Dogs and cocks don't agree to it though - people do.

by Syl Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:55 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Syl wrote:

I don't deny some want to do it Rags, some want to organise dog and cock fighting too....but they are banned.

People can definitely be persuaded to do things they may not want to...especially if they don't have much going for them re earning money.

Dogs and cocks don't agree to it though - people do.

I know...we established that before. Laughing

by Raggamuffin Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:56 pm

Syl wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Dogs and cocks don't agree to it though - people do.

I know...we established that before.

I don't really go along with this view that people agree to things without having a choice. They know what boxing is, and they know they're going to get punched.

by Tommy Monk Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:57 pm

Syl wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

What about other contact sports...?

Like judo or fencing...?

In judo and fencing the object isn't to beat someone to a pulp.

Judo is ultimately about throwing someone onto the ground as hard and as many times as you can... and fencing is ultimately about killing someone with a sword...

Boxing is about the skill of being able to hit without being hit... if it was about beating each other then they would just be made to stand still and take turns at having a free punch at the other until damage/knock out decided winner...

by Victorismyhero Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:00 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Syl wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

What about other contact sports...?

Like judo or fencing...?

In judo and fencing the object isn't to beat someone to a pulp.

Judo is ultimately about throwing someone onto the ground as hard and as many times as you can... and fencing is ultimately about killing someone with a sword...

I'm guessing you have never done competition judo then Tommy???

Boxing is about the skill of being able to hit without being hit... if it was about beating each other then they would just be made to stand still and take turns at having a free punch at the other until damage/knock out decided winner...

by Syl Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:02 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Syl wrote:

I know...we established that before.

I don't really go along with this view that people agree to things without having a choice. They know what boxing is, and they know they're going to get punched.

Another thing about this barbarism called sport is the way people work themselves up into a frenzy when they see someone being half killed...or even actually killed as has happened.
Personally I find it obscene. If they saw two men fighting in the street would they cheer and jeer and egg them on? Well some might, but they would be the weak minded.....yet because they have paid good money to watch a planned fight it's acceptable. Isn't it time this brutal 'sport' was banned? 2190311264

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by Raggamuffin Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:03 pm

Syl wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I don't really go along with this view that people agree to things without having a choice. They know what boxing is, and they know they're going to get punched.

Another thing about this barbarism called sport is the way people work themselves up into a frenzy when they see someone being half killed...or even actually killed as has happened.
Personally I find it obscene. If they saw two men fighting in the street would they cheer and jeer and egg them on? Well some might, but they would be the weak minded.....yet because they have paid good money to watch a planned fight it's acceptable.

Some people do cheer on men who fight in the street - if it was a fair fight. Laughing

There are rules in boxing, and there's a referee.

by Guest Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:04 pm

Syl wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I don't really go along with this view that people agree to things without having a choice. They know what boxing is, and they know they're going to get punched.

Another thing about this barbarism called sport is the way people work themselves up into a frenzy when they see someone being half killed...or even actually killed as has happened.
Personally I find it obscene. If they saw two men fighting in the street would they cheer and jeer and egg them on? Well some might, but they would be the weak minded.....yet because they have paid good money to watch a planned fight it's acceptable.

Men have fought for thousands of years, originally over women for the best mate or all of them
Its an instinctive evolutionary part within men to fight
You cannot just take away hundreds of thousands of years of instinct

by Syl Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:05 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Syl wrote:

In judo and fencing the object isn't to beat someone to a pulp.

Judo is ultimately about throwing someone onto the ground as hard and as many times as you can... and fencing is ultimately about killing someone with a sword...

Boxing is about the skill of being able to hit without being hit... if it was about beating each other then they would just be made to stand still and take turns at having a free punch at the other until damage/knock out decided winner...

It might be if you are a musceteer...but in this country in this day and age fencing isn't really about killing anyone anymore.

by Ben Reilly Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:06 pm

Syl wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Someone died after being hit by a cricket ball recently... Rugby and football causes countless serious injuries every year... and then there's F1 and other motor sports... and a cyclist died over the weekend in a race...

If you are going to try to ban something for a reason... then you must apply this to all, (in the name of equality mind), so then where does the banning stop...!?

There are risks with everything, but boxing just encourages one person to beat another up.
I don't see it as a sport anyway.

Boxing is not brawling; there's a reason it's called the "sweet science."

by Syl Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:09 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Syl wrote:

Another thing about this barbarism called sport is the way people work themselves up into a frenzy when they see someone being half killed...or even actually killed as has happened.
Personally I find it obscene. If they saw two men fighting in the street would they cheer and jeer and egg them on? Well some might, but they would be the weak minded.....yet because they have paid good money to watch a planned fight it's acceptable.

Some people do cheer on men who fight in the street - if it was a fair fight. There are rules in boxing, and there's a referee.

The referee wasn't much good in this latest fight. The opponent of the boxer who is in a coma was advised by his own father to avoid his head as he was obviously badly hurt....the ref allowed the fight to carry on for 10 rounds.

by Raggamuffin Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:10 pm

Syl wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Some people do cheer on men who fight in the street - if it was a fair fight. There are rules in boxing, and there's a referee.

The referee wasn't much good in this latest fight. The opponent of the boxer who is in a coma was advised by his own father to avoid his head as he was obviously badly hurt....the ref allowed the fight to carry on for 10 rounds.

Why didn't the boxer who was hurt give up then?

by Tommy Monk Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:10 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

Judo is ultimately about throwing someone onto the ground as hard and as many times as you can... and fencing is ultimately about killing someone with a sword...

I'm guessing you have never done competition judo then Tommy???

Boxing is about the skill of being able to hit without being hit... if it was about beating each other then they would just be made to stand still and take turns at having a free punch at the other until damage/knock out decided winner...

Yes I have practiced judo actually... and been through a number of 'gradings'...

I was just describing it to Syl that way before because it was the same sort of way that Syl was describing boxing...

by Syl Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:11 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Syl wrote:
There are risks with everything, but boxing just encourages one person to beat another up.
I don't see it as a sport anyway.

Boxing is not brawling; there's a reason it's called the "sweet science."

Nothing sweet about being bashed senseless....and some matches do consist of pushing and brawling anyway.

by Guest Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:12 pm

Syl wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

Boxing is not brawling; there's a reason it's called the "sweet science."

Nothing sweet about being bashed senseless....and some matches do consist of pushing and brawling anyway.

So you want to ban then BDSM?

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