Illegal drug taking.Parents & kids.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:09 pm

Good afternoon Folks.

You know all these really cool & funky parents who purchase & take illegal drugs.Well considering the costs of drugs & how much one spends to support a long term habit,wouldn't it be a better idea to put the drug money into a savings account for their children?

While I realize that savings interest rates are low at present wouldn't it be the morally better thing to do? Or how about saving the money for something more pleasant.....like a present for the children?

Or how about donating the money to cancer or dementia research?

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:32 pm

Wouldn't it be good if every parent who drank or smokes, or spent lots of money on going to football or on playing golf, or went to the theatre or the cinema etc etc etc etc did the same thing :D

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:40 pm

Sassy wrote:Wouldn't it be good if every parent who drank or smokes, or spent lots of money on going to football or on playing golf, or went to the theatre or the cinema etc etc etc etc did the same thing :D

Good afternoon Sassy.

You can hardly compare going to the cinema with drug taking.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:55 pm

Yes I can, it is using money that could be put in the bank for the children.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:59 pm

Sassy wrote:Yes I can, it is using money that could be put in the bank for the children.

Oh really.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:01 pm

Really Shady, every single penny that parents spend on themselves could, in theory, be put in the bank for the kids, not just drugs, but every bottle of wine etc etc.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:03 pm

Sassy wrote:Really Shady, every single penny that parents spend on themselves could, in theory, be put in the bank for the kids, not just drugs, but every bottle of wine etc etc.

Whoops logged out by mistake.

Do you think it's morally wrong for parents to spend money on illegal drugs instead of giving it to their children? Yes or No.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:07 pm

Well, I wouldn't think it wrong it they smoked weed and didn't drink for example. So, do you think it is wrong if parents are self indulgent in other ways, yes or no lol

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:34 pm

Things like going to the cinema, football, playing golf, legal hunting, shooting and fishing are things parents can do with their children and which children enjoy.

Can the same thing be said about taking illegal drugs?

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:37 pm

sphinx wrote:Things like going to the cinema, football, playing golf, legal hunting, shooting and fishing are things parents can do with their children and which children enjoy.

Can the same thing be said about taking illegal drugs?

Technically? yes.
Legally? no.
Good parenting? Debatable.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:39 pm

Queen Of Hearts wrote:
sphinx wrote:Things like going to the cinema, football, playing golf, legal hunting, shooting and fishing are things parents can do with their children and which children enjoy.

Can the same thing be said about taking illegal drugs?

Technically? yes.
Legally? no.
Good parenting? Debatable.

OK I get that kids could enjoy illegal drugs with their parents but the things are illegal and any parent caught doing so would be hit with the full force of the law whereas parents that take their children to the other legal activities are praised.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:44 pm

sphinx wrote:
Queen Of Hearts wrote:

Technically? yes.
Legally? no.
Good parenting? Debatable.

OK I get that kids could enjoy illegal drugs with their parents but the things are illegal and any parent caught doing so would be hit with the full force of the law whereas parents that take their children to the other legal activities are praised.

And?
You're just pointing out that you can get punished for breaking the law.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:49 pm

Shady wrote:Good afternoon Folks.

You know all these really cool & funky parents who purchase & take illegal drugs.Well considering the costs of drugs & how much one spends to support a long term habit,wouldn't it be a better idea to put the drug money into a savings account for their children?

While I realize that savings interest rates are low at present wouldn't it be the morally better thing to do? Or how about saving the money for something more pleasant.....like a present for the children?

Or how about donating the money to cancer or dementia research?

You could substitute drug use with any recreational activity that costs money and what you're asking would be the exact same.
"How about instead of spending money going out legally socialising with your friends you put all that money into a savings account for your children?"

Doesn't address whether it's right or wrong to use certain drugs, you're just trying to guilt people for spending money on something rather than saving it for their children.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:14 pm

Bloody good counter again by Queen, happy to admit I have wrongly judged you before, have some very smart counters based on pure logic, hats off to you Queen and sorry If I was an arsed to you om Flap when I was being an arse.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:17 pm

I have to agree Queen has made some very good points without only looking one way.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:27 pm

Joy Division wrote:I have to agree Queen has made some very good points without only looking one way.

So you would be happy sitting down and teaching your children to roll a spliff before smoking it with them would you?

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:33 pm

sphinx wrote:
Joy Division wrote:I have to agree Queen has made some very good points without only looking one way.

So you would be happy sitting down and teaching your children to roll a spliff before smoking it with them would you?

I don't smoke weed but hypothetically speaking what if I was happy smoking it with my children?

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:43 pm

Queen Of Hearts wrote:
sphinx wrote:

So you would be happy sitting down and teaching your children to roll a spliff before smoking it with them would you?

I don't smoke weed but hypothetically speaking what if I was happy smoking it with my children?

..great question, so Sphinx would that make someone a bad person?( you would said that before, but now that your questions are being met with questions,you may well admit there is. othin wrong in that if they are harming nobody else.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:45 pm

sphinx wrote:
Joy Division wrote:I have to agree Queen has made some very good points without only looking one way.

So you would be happy sitting down and teaching your children to roll a spliff before smoking it with them would you?

..your just biding your time waiting to see of this place goes ka-boom so everyone moves to yours aintcha? Laughing

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:51 pm

Joy Division wrote:
sphinx wrote:

So you would be happy sitting down and teaching your children to roll a spliff before smoking it with them would you?

..your just hiding your time waiting to see of this place goes ka-boom so everyone moves to yours aintcha?

...It's a crap format.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:58 pm

No I will answer both of you - if you were happy to teach your children to roll spliffs and smoke with them it would be an area of poor parenting.
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Ha I hear you cry but I dont think cannabis is harmful etc etc etc etc so sphinx must be a hypocrit and has changed her tune etc etc etc.

Well you are wrong - It is bad parenting regardless of the arguments as to the harm or otherwise of cannabis. It is bad parenting because it is teaching your children that it is acceptable to go against the rules of society or organization and that breaking the rules has no consequences and teaching children that is harmful to children because repeated studies show that brain development in children means certain decision making areas are not properly formed until mid teen years.

Roll a spliff with your child and you cannot complain when your child fails to be in by the curfew you set - because you have taught your child that rules dont matter.

Personally there are several things that are against the law that I would consider doing - from speeding to going naked in public - but I do not do them around my children. Yes as my children get older I debate the ins and outs of various laws and whether they are appropriate or just but I do not break the law with my children.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:00 pm

Joy Division wrote:
sphinx wrote:

So you would be happy sitting down and teaching your children to roll a spliff before smoking it with them would you?

..your just biding your time waiting to see of this place goes ka-boom so everyone moves to yours aintcha?

Which bit of mock forum have you missed JD?

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:01 pm

Catman wrote:
Joy Division wrote:

..your just hiding your time waiting to see of this place goes ka-boom so everyone moves to yours aintcha?

...It's a crap format.

Yes phil it will be - I am not wasting hours of time doing design for something that is there to test an idea out and is not real.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:26 pm

sphinx wrote:No I will answer both of you - if you were happy to teach your children to roll spliffs and smoke with them it would be an area of poor parenting.
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Ha I hear you cry but I dont think cannabis is harmful etc etc etc etc so sphinx must be a hypocrit and has changed her tune etc etc etc.

Well you are wrong - It is bad parenting regardless of the arguments as to the harm or otherwise of cannabis. It is bad parenting because it is teaching your children that it is acceptable to go against the rules of society or organization and that breaking the rules has no consequences and teaching children that is harmful to children because repeated studies show that brain development in children means certain decision making areas are not properly formed until mid teen years.

Roll a spliff with your child and you cannot complain when your child fails to be in by the curfew you set - because you have taught your child that rules dont matter.

Personally there are several things that are against the law that I would consider doing - from speeding to going naked in public - but I do not do them around my children. Yes as my children get older I debate the ins and outs of various laws and whether they are appropriate or just but I do not break the law with my children.

And just what proof do you have that I smoke cannabis with my children?, or smoke it around them or break the law with them, good grief Sphinx , do you parrot everything that idiot pirate says?

And for your information I have recently given up smoking cannabis and I can assure you it was nowhere near my children, let alone letting them bloody smoke it,

For goodness sake Sphinx, my youngest is not even quite 4 yet.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:30 pm

..and just for the record, not one of you who hounded or abused me yesterday stood up against shady's abusers earlier, didge , you Sphinx and a couple of others were online at the time...

Who offered a response of how bad I am over sphinx gate , but not a single hand in the air to the abuse by that arse shady.

Irn would have condemned that, either way he would, it was ridiculous abuse, well OTT.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:31 pm

Joy Division wrote:..and just for the record, not one of you who hounded or abused me yesterday stood up against shady's abusers earlier, didge , you Sphinx and a couple of others were online at the time...

Who offered a response of how bad I am over sphinx gate , but not a single hand in the air to the abuse by that arse shady.

That Shady troll should be banned imo.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:32 pm

Joy Division wrote:
sphinx wrote:No I will answer both of you - if you were happy to teach your children to roll spliffs and smoke with them it would be an area of poor parenting.
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Ha I hear you cry but I dont think cannabis is harmful etc etc etc etc so sphinx must be a hypocrit and has changed her tune etc etc etc.

Well you are wrong - It is bad parenting regardless of the arguments as to the harm or otherwise of cannabis. It is bad parenting because it is teaching your children that it is acceptable to go against the rules of society or organization and that breaking the rules has no consequences and teaching children that is harmful to children because repeated studies show that brain development in children means certain decision making areas are not properly formed until mid teen years.

Roll a spliff with your child and you cannot complain when your child fails to be in by the curfew you set - because you have taught your child that rules dont matter.

Personally there are several things that are against the law that I would consider doing - from speeding to going naked in public - but I do not do them around my children. Yes as my children get older I debate the ins and outs of various laws and whether they are appropriate or just but I do not break the law with my children.

And just what proof do you have that I smoke cannabis with my children?, or smoke it around them or break the law with them, good grief Sphinx , do you parrot everything that idiot pirate says?

And for your information I have recently given up smoking cannabis and I can assure you it was nowhere near my children, let alone letting them bloody smoke it,

For goodness sake Sphinx, my youngest is not even quite 4 yet.

Hey I only asked if on the back of queens argument you would be smoking it with them - when queen asked so what if they did you piled on saying I could not cope with people questioning me back so I gave my answer as to why I think taking illegal drugs with your children is bad parenting.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:33 pm

sphinx wrote:
Joy Division wrote:

And just what proof do you have that I smoke cannabis with my children?, or smoke it around them or break the law with them, good grief Sphinx , do you parrot everything that idiot pirate says?

And for your information I have recently given up smoking cannabis and I can assure you it was nowhere near my children, let alone letting them bloody smoke it,

For goodness sake Sphinx, my youngest is not even quite 4 yet.

Hey I only asked if on the back of queens argument you would be smoking it with them - when queen asked so what if they did you piled on saying I could not cope with people questioning me back so I gave my answer as to why I think taking illegal drugs with your children is bad parenting.

..ok Sphinx.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:34 pm

Joy Division wrote:..and just for the record, not one of you who hounded or abused me yesterday stood up against shady's abusers earlier, didge , you Sphinx and a couple of others were online at the time...

Who offered a response of how bad I am over sphinx gate , but not a single hand in the air to the abuse by that arse shady.

Irn would have condemned that, either way he would, it was ridiculous abuse, well OTT.

That would probably be because you excused your abuse of me by saying you were only repeating what I had said - presumably everyone felt as shady was only repeating what you had said it must be equally as acceptable. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander JD.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:35 pm

Catman wrote:
Joy Division wrote:..and just for the record, not one of you who hounded or abused me yesterday stood up against shady's abusers earlier, didge , you Sphinx and a couple of others were online at the time...

Who offered a response of how bad I am over sphinx gate , but not a single hand in the air to the abuse by that arse shady.

That Shady troll should be banned imo.

Well Phil , as much as I like debating and chatting, I have no time for the posts he made, I don't mind an argument even, as long as it's within taste from both sides,but he showing himself up to be the village idiot as usual.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:35 pm

Joy Division wrote:
sphinx wrote:

Hey I only asked if on the back of queens argument you would be smoking it with them - when queen asked so what if they did you piled on saying I could not cope with people questioning me back so I gave my answer as to why I think taking illegal drugs with your children is bad parenting.

..ok Sphinx.

So am I to take it that you agree with my logic as to why taking illegal substances (or doing anything illegal for that matter) with your children is bad parenting?

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:37 pm

sphinx wrote:
Joy Division wrote:..and just for the record, not one of you who hounded or abused me yesterday stood up against shady's abusers earlier, didge , you Sphinx and a couple of others were online at the time...

Who offered a response of how bad I am over sphinx gate , but not a single hand in the air to the abuse by that arse shady.

Irn would have condemned that, either way he would, it was ridiculous abuse, well OTT.

That would probably be because you excused your abuse of me by saying you were only repeating what I had said - presumably everyone felt as shady was only repeating what you had said it must be equally as acceptable. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander JD.

...I have never said my kids smoke cannabis with me, nor did I say I smoke it around them, totally different as their is absolutely no truth to this at all, not even a half truth.

...you fly wi the craws, you get shot wi the craws Sphinx.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:40 pm

sphinx wrote:
Joy Division wrote:

..ok Sphinx.

So am I to take it that you agree with my logic as to why taking illegal substances (or doing anything illegal for that matter) with your children is bad parenting?

...No, because I thought you were parroting Plonker the Pirate, when you only said it because Queen had put the question of smoking pot with our kids, I only said 'ok sphinx' as an acknowledgement for the reason you had mentioned smoking cannabis with our kids.

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:42 pm

Joy Division wrote:
sphinx wrote:

That would probably be because you excused your abuse of me by saying you were only repeating what I had said - presumably everyone felt as shady was only repeating what you had said it must be equally as acceptable. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander JD.

...I have never said my kids smoke cannabis with me, nor did I say I smoke it around them, totally different as their is absolutely no truth to this at all, not even a half truth.

...you fly wi the craws, you get shot wi the craws Sphinx.

And I never said I choose leisure activities over my kids but that did not stop you saying I did so what is your point JD? Every argument you apply to Shady abusing you applies equally to you abusing me - so why is acceptable for you to do it to me but not acceptable for him to do it you?

by Guest Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:44 pm

Joy Division wrote:
sphinx wrote:

So am I to take it that you agree with my logic as to why taking illegal substances (or doing anything illegal for that matter) with your children is bad parenting?

...No, because I thought you were parroting Plonker the Pirate, when you only said it because Queen had put the question of smoking pot with our kids, I only said 'ok sphinx' as an acknowledgement for the reason you had mentioned smoking cannabis with our kids.

So if you dont agree with my logic I presume you think taking illegal substances (or doing anything illegal) with your children is not parenting.

by Guest Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:56 pm

Joy Division wrote:..and just for the record, not one of you who hounded or abused me yesterday stood up against shady's abusers earlier, didge , you Sphinx and a couple of others were online at the time...

Who offered a response of how bad I am over sphinx gate , but not a single hand in the air to the abuse by that arse shady.

Irn would have condemned that, either way he would, it was ridiculous abuse, well OTT.

You're a girl.

by Guest Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:58 pm

Catman wrote:
Joy Division wrote:..and just for the record, not one of you who hounded or abused me yesterday stood up against shady's abusers earlier, didge , you Sphinx and a couple of others were online at the time...

Who offered a response of how bad I am over sphinx gate , but not a single hand in the air to the abuse by that arse shady.

That Shady troll should be banned imo.

Illegal drug taking.Parents & kids. 6ba30e11

by Guest Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:01 pm

Shady wrote:
Joy Division wrote:..and just for the record, not one of you who hounded or abused me yesterday stood up against shady's abusers earlier, didge , you Sphinx and a couple of others were online at the time...

Who offered a response of how bad I am over sphinx gate , but not a single hand in the air to the abuse by that arse shady.

Irn would have condemned that, either way he would, it was ridiculous abuse, well OTT.

You're a girl.

...and you're an instigator who has come here with unfounded allegations, without a shred of evidence....

Anything to disrupt another forum eh.

by Guest Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:08 pm

Joy Division wrote:
Shady wrote:

You're a girl.
...and you're an instigator who has come here with unfounded allegations, without a shred of evidence....

Anything to disrupt another forum eh.

Fucking troll best ignored or better still banned.

by Guest Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:18 pm

Catman wrote:
Joy Division wrote:
...and you're an instigator who has come here with unfounded allegations, without a shred of evidence....

Anything to disrupt another forum eh.

Fucking troll best ignored or better still banned.

...and to think I gave Shady the time of day before Phil, really beggars belief...

I thought he was one of the better RW like BA, I was wrong on that.

by Guest Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:18 pm

Joy Division wrote:
Shady wrote:

You're a girl.
...and you're an instigator who has come here with unfounded allegations, without a shred of evidence....

Anything to disrupt another forum eh.

All you do is lie.

And if you take the moral high ground for no good reason then expect people to challenge you.

by Guest Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:20 pm

Catman wrote:
Joy Division wrote:
...and you're an instigator who has come here with unfounded allegations, without a shred of evidence....

Anything to disrupt another forum eh.

Fucking troll best ignored or better still banned.

I know that you fantasize about having sexual encounters with me.Imagining how so much more fulfilling it would be to have me between your legs instead of..........You know who.

HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!!

by Guest Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:35 pm

...nobody took any moral high ground.

by Guest Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:37 pm

Joy Division wrote:...nobody took any moral high ground.

Okay.

by Guest Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:53 pm

Shady wrote:
Joy Division wrote:...nobody took any moral high ground.

Okay.

You know shady, you have always been a RW that we all know, but you used to be by far one of the most tolerable ones, just like BA, who does not need to lower himself to the gutter in dong so, I can have a decent conversation with BA, for all the arseholes he has called, he has a knack in the way he speaks to people.

by Guest Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:54 pm

I'm Fucking really dissapointed at you shady, really I am.

by veya_victaous Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:16 am

I think it is more relevant to age and experience, in general no. but teens who are already mixing in circles where they are probably doing behind your back, I think you are better letting them do it a home and thus being able to monitor it and building a relationship where they wont be afraid to come to you about those things.
Plus lets face it, your kid smoking pot is one thing, lying in an alley out of it on heroin is another. I feel that you are more likely to get them to understand the difference between having a relatively harmless good time and something that will lead to serious drug problem.

by Guest Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:28 am

veya_victaous wrote:I think it is more relevant to age and experience, in general no. but teens who are already mixing in circles where they are probably doing behind your back, I think you are better letting them do it a home and thus being able to monitor it and building a relationship where they wont be afraid to come to you about those things.
Plus lets face it, your kid smoking pot is one thing, lying in an alley out of it on heroin is another. I feel that you are more likely to get them to understand the difference between having a relatively harmless good time and something that will lead to serious drug problem.

You are so right Veya...It's impossible to stop kids from experimenting with drugs...It's part of the course for both the upper class and lower classes, the upper classes will use cocaine, i worked for the Bank Of Tokyo, it was my second job after leaving school...They were all snorting it up their noses, at extended lunch time breaks in the pub opposite, when you went down with the poorer kids that i was living with at that time in Peckham SE London, some of us were on weed,some of us joined the E/Acid revolution...I preferred the E/Acid rev!

by Beekeeper Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:04 am

Shady wrote:
Catman wrote:
That Shady troll should be banned imo.

WHAT an ugly dump of a house...

HATE to pay their electricity (and gas ?) bills.. Idea

by Guest Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:32 am

veya_victaous wrote:I think it is more relevant to age and experience, in general no. but teens who are already mixing in circles where they are probably doing behind your back, I think you are better letting them do it a home and thus being able to monitor it and building a relationship where they wont be afraid to come to you about those things.
Plus lets face it, your kid smoking pot is one thing, lying in an alley out of it on heroin is another. I feel that you are more likely to get them to understand the difference between having a relatively harmless good time and something that will lead to serious drug problem.

I am not talking about knowing what they doing and letting them do it in a bad place I am talking about sitting down with them, teaching them how to do it and doing it with them.

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