Episcopalian Church votes overwhelmingly in favor of performing same-sex weddings

by Ben Reilly Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:07 am

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Episcopalians voted overwhelmingly Wednesday to allow religious weddings for same-sex couples, solidifying the church's embrace of gay rights that began more than a decade ago with the pioneering election of the first openly gay bishop.

The vote came in Salt Lake City at the Episcopal General Convention, just days after the U.S. Supreme Court legalized gay marriage nationwide. It passed in the House of Deputies, the voting body of clergy and lay participants at the meeting. The House of Bishops had approved the resolution Tuesday by 129-26 with five abstaining.

The Very Rev. Brian Baker of Sacramento said the church rule change was the result of a nearly four-decade long conversation that has been difficult and painful for many. Baker, chair of the committee that crafted the changes, said church members have not always been kind to one another but that the dynamic has changed in recent decades.

http://news.yahoo.com/episcopalians-vote-allowing-gay-marriage-churches-064849720.html

by Eilzel Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:10 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Episcopalians voted overwhelmingly Wednesday to allow religious weddings for same-sex couples, solidifying the church's embrace of gay rights that began more than a decade ago with the pioneering election of the first openly gay bishop.

The vote came in Salt Lake City at the Episcopal General Convention, just days after the U.S. Supreme Court legalized gay marriage nationwide. It passed in the House of Deputies, the voting body of clergy and lay participants at the meeting. The House of Bishops had approved the resolution Tuesday by 129-26 with five abstaining.

The Very Rev. Brian Baker of Sacramento said the church rule change was the result of a nearly four-decade long conversation that has been difficult and painful for many. Baker, chair of the committee that crafted the changes, said church members have not always been kind to one another but that the dynamic has changed in recent decades.

http://news.yahoo.com/episcopalians-vote-allowing-gay-marriage-churches-064849720.html

Awesome for them Smile

Honestly I think these things are a matter of time. No one needs to put pressure on churches to do anything. Even the Church of England, I believe within my lifetime will allow same-sex marriages. Members of its congregation already support it even in the church, so its a matter of when not if.

I still wouldn't choose to marry in a church, but for those who would I imagine it is a major issue. But as I said, we should never force it, and wont need to.

The Catholic church is another ball game of course.

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:04 am

another thread to insult Christians , why don't you put the gay marriage bashing in the coffin where it belongs now , its just the same thing all the time and boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring .

by Raggamuffin Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:13 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:another thread to insult Christians , why don't you put the gay marriage bashing in the coffin where it belongs now , its just the same thing all the time and boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring .

Agreed. It really didn't need yet another thread about it. It's clearly designed to provoke a response from HF.

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:22 am

I would have said that in reality this thread praised these particular christians....? Episcopalian Church votes overwhelmingly in favor of performing same-sex weddings 2190311264

Episcopalian Church votes overwhelmingly in favor of performing same-sex weddings 2190311264

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:24 am

See the game ragga is playing is the victim game that islamists and jews have been playing for years...

even daring to mention their faith is somehow forbidden on pain of "bigotry"

I think most of us have seen through that a long time ago.

by Raggamuffin Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:00 am

mentor wrote:See the game ragga is playing is the victim game that islamists and jews have been playing for years...

even daring to mention their faith is somehow forbidden on pain of "bigotry"

I think most of us have seen through that a long time ago.

I know the game you and others are playing on this forum more like ...

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:03 am

wahhhhh I'm a wictim.......awwwwww

in point of fact you DONT know.....anything ....

If "game " there is, it is twat the fundie.......

by Eilzel Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:10 am

Wow. This clearly is praising Christians, and it is a different point since this is church change not law.

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:26 am

Not surprised the vicar is a lesbian and married .

by Tommy Monk Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:31 pm

How very 'progressive'...

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:03 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:Not surprised the vicar is a lesbian and married .

i guess she never saw the bit about adam and eve...lol

by Tommy Monk Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:13 pm

Are they following a religion or an alternative agenda...?

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:19 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:How very 'progressive'...

It is indeed Tommy, as opposed to being mired in the crap of the past. Laughing

by Tommy Monk Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:22 pm

So just make it up as they go along... and also claim to be following a religion...

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:26 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:So just make it up as they go along... and also claim to be following a religion...

yep its a gay club really nothing to do with Christianity.... Smile

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:27 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:So just make it up as they go along... and also claim to be following a religion...

Yep, just like HF

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:28 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:So just make it up as they go along... and also claim to be following a religion...

yep its a gay club really nothing to do with Christianity....

says the head of the smallest sect in the world (would that make it an in-sect?)

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:29 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:How very 'progressive'...

I have no problem with gays but vicars and Pastors should check the scripture .

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:30 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:How very 'progressive'...

I have no problem with gays but vicars and Pastors should check the scripture .

I heard one idiot says " the bible cannot be against homosexuals because the word wasn't invented then"....it might have been didge or mentor..... Smile

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:40 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

I have no problem with gays but vicars and Pastors should check the scripture .

I heard one idiot says " the bible cannot be against homosexuals because the word wasn't invented then"....it might have been didge or mentor.....

scripture is there .

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:44 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:How very 'progressive'...

I have no problem with gays but vicars and Pastors should check the scripture .

so what you are saying is that these vicars and pastors dont have a right to teir opinion...in the face of yours???

only askin like.....

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:50 pm

mentor wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

I have no problem with gays but vicars and Pastors should check the scripture .

so what you are saying is that these vicars and pastors dont have a right to teir opinion...in the face of yours???

only askin like.....

if they are chosen to teach God's word they should know the word!!!!

"Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness. For we all stumble in many ways. And if anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle his whole body."

[James 3:1-2]

by Tommy Monk Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:51 pm

The problem is that churches have been increasingly infiltrated by homosexuals for many years, following their perverted practices on young boys and each other along the way, now are in many organisations in sufficient enough numbers to pervert the organisations And even the religious dictats.

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:53 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:The problem is that churches have been increasingly infiltrated by homosexuals for many years, following their perverted practices on young boys and each other along the way, now are in many organisations in sufficient enough numbers to pervert the organisations And even the religious dictats.

you are quite right, i think my avatar actually says it all... Smile

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:53 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:The problem is that churches have been increasingly infiltrated by homosexuals for many years, following their perverted practices on young boys and each other along the way, now are in many organisations in sufficient enough numbers to pervert the organisations And even the religious dictats.

that's a good point Tommy

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:55 pm

mentor wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

I have no problem with gays but vicars and Pastors should check the scripture .

so what you are saying is that these vicars and pastors dont have a right to teir opinion...in the face of yours???

only askin like.....

everyone has a right to their opinion well normally unless it is on here . The pastors and vicars need to check their bibles and also their consciences because they are blaspheming big time .

by Eilzel Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:57 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:The problem is that churches have been increasingly infiltrated by homosexuals for many years, following their perverted practices on young boys and each other along the way, now are in many organisations in sufficient enough numbers to pervert the organisations And even the religious dictats.

that's a good point Tommy

Not really. The Episcopal church has little history with abuse compared with other churches.

Meanwhile the most prolific church where child abuse is concerned, the Roman Catholic church, is the most homophobic and least open to change of all.

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:59 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:The problem is that churches have been increasingly infiltrated by homosexuals for many years, following their perverted practices on young boys and each other along the way, now are in many organisations in sufficient enough numbers to pervert the organisations And even the religious dictats.

You speaking from experience again Tommy?

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:00 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

that's a good point Tommy

Not really. The Episcopal church has little history with abuse compared with other churches.

Meanwhile the most prolific church where child abuse is concerned, the Roman Catholic church, is the most homophobic and least open to change of all.

little is enough surely and cannot be excused . Homophobic is your favourite word isn't les Razz

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:00 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:The problem is that churches have been increasingly infiltrated by homosexuals for many years, following their perverted practices on young boys and each other along the way, now are in many organisations in sufficient enough numbers to pervert the organisations And even the religious dictats.

You speaking from experience again Tommy?

you just woke up from your nap i see Razz

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:01 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

that's a good point Tommy

Not really. The Episcopal church has little history with abuse compared with other churches.

Meanwhile the most prolific church where child abuse is concerned, the Roman Catholic church, is the most homophobic and least open to change of all.

oh miss your old church do you.............. Smile

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:01 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Eilzel wrote:

Not really. The Episcopal church has little history with abuse compared with other churches.

Meanwhile the most prolific church where child abuse is concerned, the Roman Catholic church, is the most homophobic and least open to change of all.

little is enough surely and cannot be excused . Homophobic is your favourite word isn't les

it's the only word he can use to make himself feel normal..... Smile

by Eilzel Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:02 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Eilzel wrote:

Not really. The Episcopal church has little history with abuse compared with other churches.

Meanwhile the most prolific church where child abuse is concerned, the Roman Catholic church, is the most homophobic and least open to change of all.

little is enough surely and cannot be excused . Homophobic is your favourite word isn't les

Don't be ridiculous.

And little is too much I agree.

The point was (obviously) that tommy's post was rubbish by the fact the most anti-gay church is the most abusive; and the most gay friendly is least abusive.

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:05 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

You speaking from experience again Tommy?

you just woke up from your nap i see

I have a job Dibs and not locked to the kitchen sink by your husband like you.
Does he allow you enough lengh on the chain to wipe your own arse?

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:06 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
mentor wrote:

so what you are saying is that these vicars and pastors dont have a right to teir opinion...in the face of yours???

only askin like.....

everyone has a right to their opinion well normally unless it is on here . The pastors and vicars need to check their bibles and also their consciences because they are blaspheming big time .

and what is misuse of the scriptures if not blasphemy?

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:07 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

you just woke up from your nap i see

I have a job Dibs and not locked to the kitchen sink by your husband like you.
Does he allow you enough lengh on the chain to wipe your own arse?

Yeah sure he does and i can go in the pool whenever I like ,just as long as tea is on the table when he gets in from work though Razz

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:08 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

I have a job Dibs and not locked to the kitchen sink by your husband like you.
Does he allow you enough lengh on the chain to wipe your own arse?

Yeah sure he does and i can go in the pool whenever I like ,just as long as tea is on the table when he gets in from work though

Oh so he takes you out for walks and a dip in the river on a leash then?

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:09 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

Yeah sure he does and i can go in the pool whenever I like ,just as long as tea is on the table when he gets in from work though

Oh so he takes you out for walks and a dip in the river on a leash then?

I said the pool not the river never mind i realize it was difficult to grasp Laughing

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:10 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

I have a job Dibs and not locked to the kitchen sink by your husband like you.
Does he allow you enough lengh on the chain to wipe your own arse?

Yeah sure he does and i can go in the pool whenever I like ,just as long as tea is on the table when he gets in from work though

all day to pamper and please your self must be lovely , you are more than worth it too me....xx

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:10 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

Oh so he takes you out for walks and a dip in the river on a leash then?

I said the pool not the river never mind i realize it was difficult to grasp

Well I suppose a tadpole pond would feel like a swimming pool to you.

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:11 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

Oh so he takes you out for walks and a dip in the river on a leash then?

I said the pool not the river never mind i realize it was difficult to grasp

be nice and try to keep it simple when you talk to didge...we shouldn't mock the afflicted.... Smile

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:11 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

Yeah sure he does and i can go in the pool whenever I like ,just as long as tea is on the table when he gets in from work though

all day to pamper and please your self must be lovely , you are more than worth it too me....xx

Oh my, the deadly sin of pride.

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:12 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

Yeah sure he does and i can go in the pool whenever I like ,just as long as tea is on the table when he gets in from work though

all day to pamper and please your self must be lovely , you are more than worth it too me....xx

I know thanks Episcopalian Church votes overwhelmingly in favor of performing same-sex weddings 2385359624

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:12 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

I said the pool not the river never mind i realize it was difficult to grasp

Well I suppose a tadpole pond would feel like a swimming pool to you.

but didge ...it IS a pool.....the gene pool (and they only go in the shallow end..)

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:13 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

all day to pamper and please your self must be lovely , you are more than worth it too me....xx

I know thanks

It was Pride that changed angels into devils; it is humility that makes men as angels. - St. Augustine

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:13 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

all day to pamper and please your self must be lovely , you are more than worth it too me....xx

Oh my, the deadly sin of pride.

no pride in being clean , don't you ever bathe or are you just a tramp .

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:13 pm

mentor wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

Well I suppose a tadpole pond would feel like a swimming pool to you.

but didge ...it IS a pool.....the gene pool (and they only go in the shallow end..)

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:15 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

Oh my, the deadly sin of pride.

no pride in being clean , don't you ever bathe or are you just a tramp .

He said pamper and please yourself which the later begs the question that he cannot please you himself.

That is taking pride anyway, which is a deadly sin.

by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:15 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

Oh my, the deadly sin of pride.

no pride in being clean , don't you ever bathe or are you just a tramp .

lol...brilliant post...... Smile