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Post by Ben Reilly Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:59 am

A good-news story not only of growth, but of tolerance:

JERUSALEM (AP) — The world's Jewish population has grown to be nearly as large as it was before the Holocaust, an Israeli think tank said in its annual report Sunday.

The Jewish People Policy Institute said there are currently 14.2 million Jews in the world. When factoring in individuals with one Jewish parent and others who identify as partially Jewish, the figure approaches 16.5 million — the Jewish population on the eve of World War II. The Nazis and their collaborators killed about 6 million Jews in the Holocaust.

The report said the rise has been due in part to natural growth, mainly in Israel, which has about 6.1 million Jews and one of the Western world's highest fertility rates.

But it also linked the growth to "changing patterns of Jewish identification." It said that 59 percent of adult children in the U.S. who have just one Jewish parent now identify as Jewish, a majority "for the first time in memory."

Avinoam Bar-Yosef, the institute's president, said more of those Jews were probably identifying as Jewish because it is more "respectable" to be Jewish in the U.S. than it was years ago. He also said Birthright-Israel, which organizes educational trips to Israel for young Jewish people, is likely having an impact.

http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2015/06/28/report-world-jewish-population-nears-pre-holocaust-level
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:08 am

What that shows is how much their population was decimated all in the name of hate and yet some on here would gladly allow that to happen again with at least 6 million Jews in Israel by trying to delegitimize them as a people. To the point they want the world to not be friends with Israel to the point it has no defense and is overtaken by Islamic extremists who have vowed to wipe them all out.

So great point to post up that Ben as it reminds of all of the devastation caused by those who hated Jews, which we still see today in the form of Muslims, the Far Right and the worst of all, the Far left


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Post by Ben Reilly Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:10 am

I don't think very many people want to see anybody exterminated. I'm glad to hear this news but at the same time shocked at how long it took the Jewish population to recover. I just think that underscores the inhumanity of the Holocaust Sad
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Post by Ben Reilly Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:12 am

Just to add to that, there has to be a better way than wiping out either one side of this conflict or the other ...
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:14 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:I don't think very many people want to see anybody exterminated. I'm glad to hear this news but at the same time shocked at how long it took the Jewish population to recover. I just think that underscores the inhumanity of the Holocaust Sad

Then you understand very little of the Muslim world Ben.
Daily they have people calling for the extermination of the Jews. You have the same Rhetoric called for that the Nazi's did. The same blame cast on to Jews to world problems. Just think what would happen if Hamas was helped by the west which is what some advocate for daily and were able to invade and defeat Israel.
It would be a second holocaust. Germany could have been stopped many times before the start of WW2 and people did not act and to the cost of millions of peoples lives.

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Post by Ben Reilly Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:27 am

They have people, yes -- how many? Most just want the destruction and violence to end and to live peacefully, even in a culture in which Jews are constantly demonized by leaders.
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:33 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:They have people, yes -- how many? Most just want the destruction and violence to end and to live peacefully, even in a culture in which Jews are constantly demonized by leaders.


Just look up the countless polls of Muslims and see how many hate Jews.
Go onto Memri website and see for yourself those who promote hate against Jews.

So you are again very much mistaken because many grow up indoctrinated with hate against the Jews.
Again much if the same claims are made that he Nazi's did in regards to the Jews.
You live in make belief fantasy world Ben, one that does not exist.

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Post by Ben Reilly Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:34 am

Cuchulain wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:They have people, yes -- how many? Most just want the destruction and violence to end and to live peacefully, even in a culture in which Jews are constantly demonized by leaders.


Just look up the countless polls of Muslims and see how many hate Jews.
Go onto Memri website and see for yourself those who promote hate against Jews.

So you are again very much mistaken because many grow up indoctrinated with hate against the Jews.
Again much if the same claims are made that he Nazi's did in regards to the Jews.
You live in make belief fantasy world Ben, one that does not exist.

Are you calling Bono a liar?

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:39 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:


Just look up the countless polls of Muslims and see how many hate Jews.
Go onto Memri website and see for yourself those who promote hate against Jews.

So you are again very much mistaken because many grow up indoctrinated with hate against the Jews.
Again much if the same claims are made that he Nazi's did in regards to the Jews.
You live in make belief fantasy world Ben, one that does not exist.

Are you calling Bono a liar?

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The Arab world may be the most startling example of this projection of national insecurities onto the Jews. The survey offers dramatic evidence that none of the reasons usually given to explain the astronomical levels of anti-Semitism in the Arab world — Islam, political tensions, the experience of war — are sufficient.

While huge majorities of Middle Easterners (74% region-wide) were found to hold anti-Semitic views, it is significant that the two least anti-Semitic peoples among the 18 polled were the two non-Arab ones. Over half of Iranians (56%) and two-thirds of Turks (69%) hold anti-Semitic views, but that still compares favorably to the whopping 82.5% average among the 16 Arab states surveyed.

Among all Muslims (Arabs included), less than half (49%) are anti-Semitic.


http://www.timesofisrael.com/hating-the-jew-youve-never-met/

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:40 am

Am off to work

See you later Ben

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Post by Ben Reilly Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:49 am

OK. In the meantime, let me propose a way out of this crisis.

We put a dozen nuclear-armed B2 bombers circling in formation over this little violence-ridden armpit of the world.

We announce to the Israelis and Palestinians: "Look, you 10 million people inhabiting this little violence-ridden armpit of the world. We have had enough of your squabbling. You've caused more than enough problems for this planet. We have a dozen nuclear-armed B2 bombers circling in formation above you. You have 24 hours to sort this shit out."

Who's with me? I live thousands of miles from give-a-shit-about-these-people and even I find this conflict exhausting.
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:04 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:OK. In the meantime, let me propose a way out of this crisis.

We put a dozen nuclear-armed B2 bombers circling in formation over this little violence-ridden armpit of the world.

We announce to the Israelis and Palestinians: "Look, you 10 million people inhabiting this little violence-ridden armpit of the world. We have had enough of your squabbling. You've caused more than enough problems for this planet. We have a dozen nuclear-armed B2 bombers circling in formation above you. You have 24 hours to sort this shit out."

Who's with me? I live thousands of miles from give-a-shit-about-these-people and even I find this conflict exhausting.


Of which the Muslim would happily except as it would mean ridding the area of Jews, which they can later repopulate the area. You are talking about a people that believe in Martyrdom. You end up giving the Arabs exactly what they want. On the one hand you will be seen as a murderer of Muslims and on the other as a hero who rid the area of Jews.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:34 am

if we wait for peace between Muslims and Jews we will have a very long wait, the only way it could happen would be the total destruction of one or the other...

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Post by Raggamuffin Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:27 am

Birthright Israel? I'm not sure that's a good idea - it's just encouraging this Zionist nonsense.
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:33 am

Raggamuffin wrote:Birthright Israel? I'm not sure that's a good idea - it's just encouraging this Zionist nonsense.


Agreed.
It is about self determination which the Israeli Jews have a right to.
Just as the Palestinians should have self determination in the West Bank.

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