The boy who stabbed two Israelis on 24th May was Palestinian Christian

Shin Bet Officially Announces Name Of Jerusalem Stabbing Suspect

The Israeli Internal Security Service (Shin Bet) and the Police in Jerusalem have officially announced, Thursday, the identity of the Palestinian who allegedly stabbed, on May 24, two Israelis near the Damascus Gate.

The Jerusalem Post stated that the Police released, Thursday, previously sealed details on the attack.

The Shin Bet said the attacker, identified as John Kakish, 19 years of age, is a Palestinian Christian from the Old City of occupied East Jerusalem, and that he confessed during interrogation that he wanted “to take revenge on the Jews,” according to the report.

The incident in question came during the Shavuot Jewish holiday; the Shin Bet said John was arrested several times before allegedly for “other assaults on Israelis.”

Following the stabbing, Israeli paramedics of Magen David Adom said the two Israelis, 17 years of age, suffered moderate injuries and were moved to Hadassah Ein Karem Hospital.

Israeli sources said the attack took place around 2:30 a.m. on May 24, “as the two were likely towards the Western Wall.”

The sources added that Kakish was identified as he appeared on a security camera footage reportedly trying to escape after stabbing the two Israelis, and that the police located, near the stabbing site, a knife and other items that tie Kakish to the attack.

According to the Shin Bet, Kakish told the interrogators that he carried the attack out after being subject to a number of assaults, and racist slogans by Israeli fanatics.

http://www.imemc.org/article/71831

As the Israeli attacks on Christians grow, so will their resistance.

Disgusting that he received such racism and assault, but then all sympathy goes when he goes onto commits violence also. You seriously are not trying to justify his violent actions by what was claimed to have happened to him Sassy?
There is no doubt there is racism within Israel whipped by extremists, which needs to be tackled and dealt with but lets have some clarity here.


Leader: President Mahmoud Abbas
Population: 4.5 million (40,000 Christians)
Main Religion: Islam
Government: Interim administration
World Watch List Rank: 26
Source of Persecution: Islamic extremism

http://www.opendoorsuk.org/persecution/worldwatch/palestinian_territories.php


Israel does not even make the top 50 countries where Christians are persecuted:


WORLD WATCH LIST 2015: COUNTRY PROFILES

North Korea
Somalia
Iraq
Syria
Afghanistan
Sudan
Iran
Pakistan
Eritrea
Nigeria
Maldives
Saudi Arabia
Libya
Yemen
Uzbekistan
Vietnam
Central African Republic
Qatar
Kenya
Turkmenistan
India
Ethiopia
Egypt
Djibouti
Burma/Myanmar
Palestinian Territories
Brunei
Laos
China
Jordan
Bhutan
Comoros
Tanzania
Algeria
Colombia
Tunisia
Malaysia
Mexico
Oman
Mali
Turkey
Kazakhstan
Bangladesh
Sri Lanka
Tajikistan
Azerbaijan
Indonesia
Mauritania
United Arab Emirates
Kuwait

http://www.opendoorsuk.org/persecution/country_profiles.php

why would an alleged Christian want vengeance on Jews??

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:why would an alleged Christian want vengeance on Jews??

There is some ultra right wing groups, who are very racist.

Belatucadros wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:why would an alleged Christian want vengeance on Jews??

There is some ultra right wing groups, who are very racist.

like whom??

it makes no sense...

Vatican official says Israel fostering intolerance of Christianity
The Israeli government's failure to respond adequately to Jewish extremist attacks against churches and monasteries is fostering a climate of intolerance towards Christianity in the country, a senior Vatican official in Jerusalem has warned.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9529123/Vatican-official-says-Israel-fostering-intolerance-of-Christianity.html

Israeli Abuse of and Attacks on Christians in the Holy Land

https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2012/03/12/israeli-abuse-of-and-attacks-on-christians-in-the-holy-land/



At home and abroad, Christian Palestinians under attack by Israel and its apologists

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/articles/debate/11679-at-home-and-abroad-christian-palestinians-under-attack-by-israel-and-its-apologists

Zionist Crimes against Christianity

https://storify.com/occpal/zionist-crimes-against-christianity

Jewish settlers desecrate Christian churches and monasty





Zionist Crimes Against Christianity

For the Zionists the Palestinian Christians represent an obstacle to their plan to create a Jewish State in Palestine that would be 100% Jewish.

In 1948, the Zionists expelled from Palestine 100,000 Christians.

During the 1948 war, Zionists destroyed desecrated and profaned Christian churches, convents and institutions throughout the Occupied area of Palestine.

During the June the June war of 1967 Israeli forces shelled and damaged many churches in the old city of Jerusalem and the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem.

Israeli forces opened the Church of the Holy Sepulchre to Jews who poured into the holiest place in Christendom indecently dressed behaving disrespectfully joking, singing and pouring pharisaic hate and insults against Christianity and against Jesus Christ inside the Holy Sepulchre and next to the tomb of Jesus Christ.

Israeli Authorities censor all films and plays to prevent mentioning the name of Jesus Christ.

The Zionist reflected with their action the deep-felt hatred of everything Christian embedded in the Zionist ideology. Testimony shows that this hatred went so deep that the Zionist authorities removed the international “+” sign from mathematics textbooks because of the resemblance of the plus sign to the Christian Cross.

https://occupiedpalestine.wordpress.com/2011/04/24/crimes-against-christianity/



Like Muslims, they Christians stand in the way of an all Jewish State.

Yeah I agree there is discrimination in Israel to Christians by extremists sassy and it needs to be dealt with, but it pails into comparison to how Christians are persecuted in the Palestinian Territories.

where are these extreme Christians attacking Jews for revenge??

I have never seen a Jew attack a Christian....

Belatucadros wrote:Yeah I agree there is discrimination in Israel to Christians by extremists sassy and it needs to be dealt with, but it pails into comparison to how Christians are persecuted in the Palestinian Territories.

You're deluded.

Israeli settlers increase their attacks on Palestinian Christian sites
http://electronicintifada.net/content/israeli-settlers-increase-their-attacks-palestinian-christian-sites/11756


Israeli Settlers Burn Greek Orthodox Church Land In Jerusalem
https://occupiedpalestine.wordpress.com/2013/04/29/israeli-settlers-burn-greek-orthodox-church-land-in-jerusalem/

'Price Tag' Israeli Extremists Target Christians
‘Jesus is garbage’ graffiti, threat to kill bishop expose anti-Christian sentiment just as Israel prepares to host Pope Francis.


http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2014/may-web-only/price-tag-israeli-extremists-target-christians.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3O3EB6pjHw

Suspected Israeli nationalists torch Christian seminary in Jerusalem
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/2/26/suspected-israeli-nationalists-torch-christian-seminary-in-jerusalem.html

Christians in Israel and Palestine fear rise in violence ahead of pope's visit
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/09/christians-israel-palestine-rise-violence-pope-visit

why would Jews attack Christians please??

i cannot get my head round it...

Gaza's Christians and Muslims grow closer in defiance of Israeli attacks

Solidarity between the Christian minority and Muslim majority is growing in Gaza as both suffer under the Israeli offensive, with churches sheltering all religions and prayers being offered up on all sides

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gazas-christians-and-Muslims-grow-closer-defiance-israeli-attacks-372261379

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:where are these extreme Christians attacking Jews for revenge??

I have never seen a Jew attack a Christian....

It does happen, even more with settlers, where many of the settlers are hardliners.

the very idea that Muslims have more in common with Christians than Christians do with Jews is ridiculous...


perhaps this is the idea of chrislam, the alienate the jes and make people think islam is not the evil rubbish everyone knows it is...

risingsun wrote:Gaza's Christians and Muslims grow closer in defiance of Israeli attacks

Solidarity between the Christian minority and Muslim majority is growing in Gaza as both suffer under the Israeli offensive, with churches sheltering all religions and prayers being offered up on all sides

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gazas-christians-and-Muslims-grow-closer-defiance-israeli-attacks-372261379

Christians in the West Bank and Gaza are caught in the middle of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict: their ethnicity means many restrictions from the Israeli side, and their religion puts them in a minority position within the Palestinian community. The past year has seen increased pressure on the Christian community, especially in Gaza, because of the presence of fanatical Islamic movements. Christian converts from a Muslim background are persecuted the most, especially by family and community, but the pressure on all Christians in Gaza to convert to Islam is always present. Several Christians are known to have fled Gaza and relocated to the West Bank.

PERSECUTION IN PALESTINIAN TERRITORIES

'We'll get you soon, O worshippers of the cross' was found written on the walls after vandals attacked the Catholic Church in Gaza in February 2014. Though small, the attack had a major impact on the tiny Christian community there. Combined with regional developments - including attacks on Christians and churches in Syria and Egypt - it has led to a reduced level of safety for believers who notice a difference in the way fellow citizens view them, pointing to a lack of respect. They wonder who will defend them and where to run to. Due to the conflict in the region, and the stagnating peace process, such tensions often go unnoticed.

The situation is a little better for Christians in the West Bank where the ruling Fatah party is formally based on secular principles and Christians enjoy several rights. In Gaza, however, though Christians are largely tolerated by Islamist Hamas, their rights are neither upheld nor protected. The Palestinian Basic Law states that the official religion is Islam and Shari is the main source of legislation.

In addition to the discrimination, fear is also growing amidst a general context of political unrest and the increasing influence of radical Islam in the Middle East. Christians face threats from radical Islamic vigilant groups, as shown by the attack on the Catholic Church in Gaza. At more mosques, the volume of loudspeakers is higher and more women are wearing the veil, including Christian women who feel the pressure to cover up.

In Gaza, some members of the historical churches are vulnerable for conversion to Islam because, in the first instance, they don't see the difference between Christianity and Islam. They are Christian by birth and not necessarily out of choice. They convert because they feel trapped, cannot stand the threats, or are lured with offers of housing, wives, jobs or diplomas. Once converted, many of them soon regret it. The ties with their Christian identity turn out to be stronger than they thought. However, in Islam it is not easy for a convert to return to their former religion.

Of all types of Christians, Muslim-background believers face the most severe persecution. In the West Bank, they are threatened and pressured; in Gaza, their situation is so dangerous that they live their faith in utmost secrecy. Children whose parents have converted are likely to be harassed or discriminated, and if a Christian married to a Muslim is divorced, he or she would be excluded from having custody of the children. Muslim-background believers cannot officially gather as a congregation nor can they openly join existing churches. Nevertheless, the number of such believers is growing slowly.


http://www.opendoorsuk.org/persecution/worldwatch/palestinian_territories.php

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:why would Jews attack Christians please??

i cannot get my head round it...

Oh do shut up you numpty. Because the Israeli Government want an all Jewish state and want rid of everyone who is not Jewish in the whole of Palestine.



Netanyahu's Government approved 'Jewish State' Law

According to the founding father of Zionism Theodore Herzl, “the area of the Jewish State stretches: “From the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.” According to Rabbi Fischmann, “The Promised Land extends from the River of Egypt up to the Euphrates, it includes parts of Syria and Lebanon.”

risingsun wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:why would Jews attack Christians please??

i cannot get my head round it...

Oh do shut up you numpty.  Because the Israeli Government want an all Jewish state and want rid of everyone who is not Jewish in the whole of Palestine.



Netanyahu's Government approved 'Jewish State' Law

According to the founding father of Zionism Theodore Herzl, “the area of the Jewish State stretches: “From the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.”  According to Rabbi Fischmann,  “The Promised Land extends from the River of Egypt up to the Euphrates, it includes parts of Syria and Lebanon.”

So you don't think it could be propaganda against isreal, you know like all the dead bodies of children every time the isreali's dare to fire back at the palestinian knobheads...

Yawn.  Now you have decended into stupidity you can stick it up your arse, you know, where your prostate is.

what will be will be , the bible says Israel are blessed and they sure are , they will also never be defeated ever because it is written and no matter how hard other countries try Israel will forever be strong and powerful

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risingsun wrote:Yawn.  Now you have decended into stupidity you can stick it up your arse, you know, where your prostate is.

you on meltdown sass you seem rather stressed this evening

just check out pallywood, it might open your eyes but I doubt it, they say you can teach old dogs new tricks obviously some dogs are just too past it....

Sorry sassy that is absurd.
The Jewish state law has not been enacted and going off what some founding Zionist said and the proposed law makes no such claim to what Israel constitutes according to Theodore Herzl.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law_proposal:_Israel_as_the_Nation-State_of_the_Jewish_People


Sorry but that is poor to claim, the law is poor also and will no doubt get defeated.


GoodNight

Can't be defeated, lol, if they were standing by themselves instead of being giving huge amounts of money and arms by America they wouldn't be there. They are Nazi's, and most are not semetic but European, the semites are the Palestinians, that's fact, scientifically tested by DNA. They are frauds and have become the oppressors.

the jews are nazis, wow you will be saying they exterminated themselves next...

did you get anyone of any faith other than Muslim to vote for you, because i'm sure you never discussed your beliefs with them. I hope the six people who voted for you don't find out hat you are really like...

Belatucadros wrote:Sorry sassy that is absurd.
The Jewish state law has not been enacted and going off what some founding Zionist said and the proposed law makes no such claim to what Israel constitutes according to Theodore Herzl.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law_proposal:_Israel_as_the_Nation-State_of_the_Jewish_People


Sorry but that is poor to claim, the law is poor also and will no doubt get defeated.


GoodNight

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has proposed legislation that would change Israel’s basic laws to define it as the home of the “Jewish people” only.

Netanyahu told a cabinet meeting on Sunday that the draft basic law is meant to clarify that Israel is “the nation state of the Jewish people.”

Israel “provides full equal rights, individual rights, to all its citizens, but it is the nation state of one people only – the Jewish people – and of no other people. And therefore, in order to bolster the status of the state of Israel as the nation state of the Jewish people, I intend to submit a basic law that will anchor this status,” he said.

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/05/05/361388/israel-only-for-jews-netanyahu/

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:the jews are nazis, wow you will be saying they exterminated themselves next...

did you get anyone of any faith other than Muslim to vote for you, because i'm sure you never discussed your beliefs with them. I hope the six people who voted for you don't find out hat you are really like...

she would tell them to shove their faith up their arses where their protrate is , who in the right mind would want someone like her representing her .

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:the jews are nazis, wow you will be saying they exterminated themselves next...

did you get anyone of any faith other than Muslim to vote for you, because i'm sure you never discussed your beliefs with them. I hope the six people who voted for you don't find out hat you are really like...

she would tell them to shove their faith up their arses where their protrate is , who in the  right mind would want someone like her representing her .

I have no idea... just shows though perhaps voting is a bad idea if you give bigots power to further their ideas...

risingsun wrote:Can't be defeated, lol, if they were standing by themselves instead of being giving huge amounts of money and arms by America they wouldn't be there.  They are Nazi's, and most are not semetic but European, the semites are the Palestinians, that's fact, scientifically tested by DNA.  They are frauds and have become the oppressors.  

Jewish identity is the objective or subjective state of perceiving oneself as a Jew and as relating to being Jewish. Under the broader definition, the Jewish identity does not depend on whether or not a person is regarded as a Jew by others, or by an external set of religious, or legal, or sociological norms.


You are being antisemitic because Jewish identify through either a nation, culture and religion. So it does not matter if many descend from Europe, they are still a Jewish identity. That is like saying blacks are not really English because they descend from Africa.
There is no comparison to Nazism, that is just utterly poor and is yet again trying to demonize Israel on a par with one of the most evilest organisations in history, who butchered millions, was a totalitarian state and has none of the civil liberties Israel has. Israel could have in the past and can still wipe out the Palestinians a hundred times over, they never have and are held more accountable in combat than any other nation, where they attempt to minimize casualties.


Until tomorrow, but as seen some of the lies and rhetoric used to demonize Israeli's and Jews and at every turn is appalling.


Night

risingsun wrote:Can't be defeated, lol, if they were standing by themselves instead of being giving huge amounts of money and arms by America they wouldn't be there.  They are Nazi's, and most are not semetic but European, the semites are the Palestinians, that's fact, scientifically tested by DNA.  They are frauds and have become the oppressors.  

I think you're over dramatic and blinded by your love of Muslims , i tell you again Israel will NEVER fail and it doesn't matter how angry you get over it Israel will always succeed they are blessed and always will be.
Israel are the chosen nation and I am proud to stand with them i love Israel .

Belatucadros wrote:

risingsun wrote:Can't be defeated, lol, if they were standing by themselves instead of being giving huge amounts of money and arms by America they wouldn't be there.  They are Nazi's, and most are not semetic but European, the semites are the Palestinians, that's fact, scientifically tested by DNA.  They are frauds and have become the oppressors.  

Jewish identity is the objective or subjective state of perceiving oneself as a Jew and as relating to being Jewish. Under the broader definition, the Jewish identity does not depend on whether or not a person is regarded as a Jew by others, or by an external set of religious, or legal, or sociological norms.


You are being antisemitic because Jewish identify through either a nation, culture and religion. So it does not matter if many descend from Europe, they are still a Jewish identity. That is like saying blacks are not really English because they descend from Africa.
There is no comparison to Nazism, that is just utterly poor and is yet again trying to demonize Israel on a par with one of the most evilest organisations in history, who butchered millions, was a totalitarian state and has none of the civil liberties Israel has. Israel could have in the past and can still wipe out the Palestinians a hundred times over, they never have and are held more accountable in combat than any other nation, where they attempt to minimize casualties.


Until tomorrow, but as seen some of the lies and rhetoric used to demonize Israeli's and Jews and at every turn is appalling.


Night

well said , night didge sleep well

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

she would tell them to shove their faith up their arses where their protrate is , who in the  right mind would want someone like her representing her .

I have no idea... just shows though perhaps voting is a bad idea if you give bigots power to further their ideas...

In all seriousness there are many faiths in this country so how could she represent these people when her love of islam is so strong . I think i will have to write and let her local council know she is racist and intolerant of all faiths apart from islam .

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

risingsun wrote:Can't be defeated, lol, if they were standing by themselves instead of being giving huge amounts of money and arms by America they wouldn't be there.  They are Nazi's, and most are not semetic but European, the semites are the Palestinians, that's fact, scientifically tested by DNA.  They are frauds and have become the oppressors.  

I think you're over dramatic and blinded by your love of Muslims , i tell you again Israel will NEVER fail and it doesn't matter how angry you get over it Israel will always succeed they are blessed and always will be.
Israel are the chosen nation and I am proud to stand with them i love Israel .

Total bollocks, and it's amazing how you ignore the Israeli settlers abuse of Christians. You'd be frightened to death if you went out to Israel. And I have a Jewish background as well, on both sides of my family. Does that mean I'm blinded to what Israel has become, no, no more than many Holocaust survivors are. Only fools like you.

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

I have no idea... just shows though perhaps voting is a bad idea if you give bigots power to further their ideas...

In all seriousness there are many faiths in this country so how could she represent these people when her love of islam is so strong . I think i will have to write and let her local council know she is racist and intolerant of all faiths apart from islam .

There's you good old 'Christian' values again

Belatucadros wrote:

risingsun wrote:Can't be defeated, lol, if they were standing by themselves instead of being giving huge amounts of money and arms by America they wouldn't be there.  They are Nazi's, and most are not semetic but European, the semites are the Palestinians, that's fact, scientifically tested by DNA.  They are frauds and have become the oppressors.  

Jewish identity is the objective or subjective state of perceiving oneself as a Jew and as relating to being Jewish. Under the broader definition, the Jewish identity does not depend on whether or not a person is regarded as a Jew by others, or by an external set of religious, or legal, or sociological norms.


You are being antisemitic because Jewish identify through either a nation, culture and religion. So it does not matter if many descend from Europe, they are still a Jewish identity. That is like saying blacks are not really English because they descend from Africa.
There is no comparison to Nazism, that is just utterly poor and is yet again trying to demonize Israel on a par with one of the most evilest organisations in history, who butchered millions, was a totalitarian state and has none of the civil liberties Israel has. Israel could have in the past and can still wipe out the Palestinians a hundred times over, they never have and are held more accountable in combat than any other nation, where they attempt to minimize casualties.


Until tomorrow, but as seen some of the lies and rhetoric used to demonize Israeli's and Jews and at every turn is appalling.


Night

Do get it right, I said they weren't Semetic, not Jewish, which they aren't. DNA proves most Israel Jews are NOT semites, most Palestinians are.

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

I have no idea... just shows though perhaps voting is a bad idea if you give bigots power to further their ideas...

In all seriousness there are many faiths in this country so how could she represent these people when her love of islam is so strong . I think i will have to write and let her local council know she is racist and intolerant of all faiths apart from islam .

It wouldn't be right, besides I would assume anyone who spoke to it for more than sixty seconds would know how bitter and twisted it is...

risingsun wrote:

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

I think you're over dramatic and blinded by your love of Muslims , i tell you again Israel will NEVER fail and it doesn't matter how angry you get over it Israel will always succeed they are blessed and always will be.
Israel are the chosen nation and I am proud to stand with them i love Israel .

Total bollocks, and it's amazing how you ignore the Israeli settlers abuse of Christians.   You'd be frightened to death if you went out to Israel.  And I have a Jewish background as well, on both sides of my family.   Does that mean I'm blinded to what Israel has become, no, no more than many Holocaust survivors are.   Only fools like you.

I've been loads of times to Israel and if you have a jewish background then you wouldn't even dream of insulting Israel. You're a liar sassy you and just very angry because of Palestine . If you really had jewish blood you woulnd't be able to speak against Israel

Yawn, thankfully you are in the minority, the support for Palestine is huge and spreading every day. In fact, in my neck of the woods they'd laugh their socks off over ignorant fools like you.

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

risingsun wrote:

Total bollocks, and it's amazing how you ignore the Israeli settlers abuse of Christians.   You'd be frightened to death if you went out to Israel.  And I have a Jewish background as well, on both sides of my family.   Does that mean I'm blinded to what Israel has become, no, no more than many Holocaust survivors are.   Only fools like you.

I've been loads of times to Israel and if you have a jewish background then you wouldn't even dream of insulting Israel. You're a liar sassy you and just very angry because of Palestine . If you really had jewish blood you woulnd't be able to speak against Israel

Rubbish, thousands of holocaust survivors condemn Israel, and a huge number of Jews. You've been to Israel, yea right!

risingsun wrote:Yawn, thankfully you are in the minority, the support for Palestine is huge and spreading every day.  In fact, in my neck of the woods they'd laugh their socks off over ignorant fools like you.

In your dreams Israel has more support and Christians standing with them,just because you're area are supposedly supporting Palestine is nothing compared to the Christians that stand with Israel .

risingsun wrote:

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

I've been loads of times to Israel and if you have a jewish background then you wouldn't even dream of insulting Israel. You're a liar sassy you and just very angry because of Palestine . If you really had jewish blood you woulnd't be able to speak against Israel

Rubbish, thousands of holocaust survivors condemn Israel, and a huge number of Jews.  You've been to Israel, yea right!

we have been to Isreal lots of times, as believers it is a fantastic place to be with the history and the places jesus walked, it is even more powerful when you have family ties to the nation...

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