woman killed, people stoned to death, police jailed...

Vicar of Dibley wrote:poor woman what a waste of life so young too, glad those responsible will be punished

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

Vicar of Dibley wrote:poor woman what a waste of life so young too, glad those responsible will be punished

people stoned to death for the murder , thats just barbaric...the koran again..

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
people stoned to death for the murder , thats just barbaric...the koran again..

yeah and what i don't understand is why it is just a book that has millions of copies, yes i know it is Muslims holy book just like Christians have the holy bible but christians don't murder anyone if they burn a bible .

Raggamuffin wrote:Well at least they didn't get away with it - they would have under the Taliban.

The death sentence again for the murderers though - no comment this time!

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:Well at least they didn't get away with it - they would have under the Taliban.

The death sentence again for the murderers though - no comment this time!

I'm against the death sentence .

Raggamuffin wrote:Well at least they didn't get away with it - they would have under the Taliban.

The death sentence again for the murderers though - no comment this time!

Lucifer Angel of Light wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:Well at least they didn't get away with it - they would have under the Taliban.

The death sentence again for the murderers though - no comment this time!

Actually, not enough of those engaged in this despicable crime were dealt with, as countless were certainly involved. Many played an active part and again have no reservations on those sentenced to death here

Raggamuffin wrote:

Lucifer Angel of Light wrote:

Actually, not enough of those engaged in this despicable crime were dealt with, as countless were certainly involved. Many played an active part and again have no reservations on those sentenced to death here

I agree there were more involved, but quite often one or two people are only charged. At least they charged quite a few.

1) One should make formal ablutions before handling the Qur'an or reading from its text.
2) One who is in need of a formal bath (after intercourse or menstrual bleeding) should not touch the Qur'an until after bathing.
3) A non-Muslim should not handle the sacred text, but may listen to tapes of the Qur'an or handle a translation or exegesis.
4) Those who are unable to handle the Qur'an based on these reasons should either avoid handling the Qur'an completely, or in necessity hold it while using some sort of barrier covering the hand, such as a cloth or a glove.

In addition, when one is not reading or reciting from the Qur'an, it should be closed and stored a clean, respectable place. Nothing should be placed on top of it, nor should it ever be placed on the floor or in a bathroom. To further show respect for the sacred text, those who are writing it should use clear, elegant handwriting, and those who are reading from it should use clear, beautiful voices.

Ben_Reilly wrote:The physical Quran is treated with a great deal of respect in Islam:

1) One should make formal ablutions before handling the Qur'an or reading from its text.
2) One who is in need of a formal bath (after intercourse or menstrual bleeding) should not touch the Qur'an until after bathing.
3) A non-Muslim should not handle the sacred text, but may listen to tapes of the Qur'an or handle a translation or exegesis.
4) Those who are unable to handle the Qur'an based on these reasons should either avoid handling the Qur'an completely, or in necessity hold it while using some sort of barrier covering the hand, such as a cloth or a glove.

In addition, when one is not reading or reciting from the Qur'an, it should be closed and stored a clean, respectable place. Nothing should be placed on top of it, nor should it ever be placed on the floor or in a bathroom. To further show respect for the sacred text, those who are writing it should use clear, elegant handwriting, and those who are reading from it should use clear, beautiful voices.

http://islam.about.com/od/quran/f/mushaf.htm

Not that it justifies hurting anybody over it, of course. Obviously their society views this as an extreme overreaction and crime, given the fact that four people are being executed for murder and another 19 are being jailed for failing to protect the victim.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:The physical Quran is treated with a great deal of respect in Islam:

1) One should make formal ablutions before handling the Qur'an or reading from its text.
2) One who is in need of a formal bath (after intercourse or menstrual bleeding) should not touch the Qur'an until after bathing.
3) A non-Muslim should not handle the sacred text, but may listen to tapes of the Qur'an or handle a translation or exegesis.
4) Those who are unable to handle the Qur'an based on these reasons should either avoid handling the Qur'an completely, or in necessity hold it while using some sort of barrier covering the hand, such as a cloth or a glove.

In addition, when one is not reading or reciting from the Qur'an, it should be closed and stored a clean, respectable place. Nothing should be placed on top of it, nor should it ever be placed on the floor or in a bathroom. To further show respect for the sacred text, those who are writing it should use clear, elegant handwriting, and those who are reading from it should use clear, beautiful voices.

http://islam.about.com/od/quran/f/mushaf.htm

Not that it justifies hurting anybody over it, of course. Obviously their society views this as an extreme overreaction and crime, given the fact that four people are being executed for murder and another 19 are being jailed for failing to protect the victim.

What do you think the appropriate punishment should be for mishandling the Koran then Ben? A ten-year jail sentence maybe?

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

What do you think the appropriate punishment should be for mishandling the Koran then Ben? A ten-year jail sentence maybe?

Of course, I would never advocate someone be punished for mishandling any book, unless it wasn't theirs to mishandle.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

What do you think the appropriate punishment should be for mishandling the Koran then Ben? A ten-year jail sentence maybe?

Of course, I would never advocate someone be punished for mishandling any book, unless it wasn't theirs to mishandle.

Oh. You appeared to be excusing people who took revenge on anyone who mistreated it.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Oh. You appeared to be excusing people who took revenge on anyone who mistreated it.

Yeah, no. Please read back what I actually wrote.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Oh. You appeared to be excusing people who took revenge on anyone who mistreated it.

Yeah, no. Please read back what I actually wrote.

Why did you bother to explain why those people got so upset then? If it had been a Bible, you wouldn't have done that.

Besides, it was only hearsay that the women burnt a Koran.

On average, Americans correctly answer 16 of the 32 religious knowledge questions on the survey by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life. Atheists and agnostics average 20.9 correct answers. Jews and Mormons do about as well, averaging 20.5 and 20.3 correct answers, respectively. Protestants as a whole average 16 correct answers; Catholics as a whole, 14.7. Atheists and agnostics, Jews and Mormons perform better than other groups on the survey even after controlling for differing levels of education.

Nems wrote:Savages

Raggamuffin wrote:

Nems wrote:Savages

They are, and it annoys me sometimes that people like that are deemed to be in need of "protection" - they're probably just ordinary people who think it's fine to murder someone in that manner. It's time that these people were told they will not do that kind of thing with impunity.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Nems wrote:Savages

They are, and it annoys me sometimes that people like that are deemed to be in need of "protection" - they're probably just ordinary people who think it's fine to murder someone in that manner. It's time that these people were told they will not do that kind of thing with impunity.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

They are, and it annoys me sometimes that people like that are deemed to be in need of "protection" - they're probably just ordinary people who think it's fine to murder someone in that manner. It's time that these people were told they will not do that kind of thing with impunity.

I think executing four people for her murder means that they can't do this kind of thing with impunity.

Ben_Reilly wrote:The physical Quran is treated with a great deal of respect in Islam:

1) One should make formal ablutions before handling the Qur'an or reading from its text.
2) One who is in need of a formal bath (after intercourse or menstrual bleeding) should not touch the Qur'an until after bathing.
3) A non-Muslim should not handle the sacred text, but may listen to tapes of the Qur'an or handle a translation or exegesis.
4) Those who are unable to handle the Qur'an based on these reasons should either avoid handling the Qur'an completely, or in necessity hold it while using some sort of barrier covering the hand, such as a cloth or a glove.

In addition, when one is not reading or reciting from the Qur'an, it should be closed and stored a clean, respectable place. Nothing should be placed on top of it, nor should it ever be placed on the floor or in a bathroom. To further show respect for the sacred text, those who are writing it should use clear, elegant handwriting, and those who are reading from it should use clear, beautiful voices.

http://islam.about.com/od/quran/f/mushaf.htm

Not that it justifies hurting anybody over it, of course. Obviously their society views this as an extreme overreaction and crime, given the fact that four people are being executed for murder and another 19 are being jailed for failing to protect the victim.