Boko Haram Just Declared A 'Caliphate' In Nigeria, The Second One This Summer

Nigeria's Boko Haram have become the second Islamist militant group in just two months to declare a "caliphate", in a video message from its leader.

The news agency AFP obtained a video shot in the northeast Nigerian town of Gwoza, in Borno state, which shows leader Abubakar Shekau declaing a new caliphate, an Islamic state, in the city.

"Thanks be to Allah who gave victory to our brethren in Gwoza and made it part of the Islamic caliphate," Abubakar Shekau said in the 52-minute video, according to AFP. "By the grace of Allah we will not leave the town. We have come to stay."

Gwoza is now "nothing to do with Nigeria" he said. The group, designated a terror organisation by the US, control large chunks of territory in Borno state and some in the neighbouring Yobe state.

"By the grace of Allah we will not leave the town. We have come to stay," said Shekau, who has been designated a global terrorist by the United States and sanctioned by the UN Security Council.

The United Nations humanitarian office (OCHA) earlier this month confirmed reports that Gwoza was under rebel control.

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Do we get to panic yet?

Nems wrote:Do we get to panic yet?

Not yet Nems, but these groups are being allowed to thrive, as we are not really taking the fight to them, by as seen using conventional means, we need to make tough and harsh decisions, because over 10 years of conventional war, has failed to stem their growth because we have been seen to be soft and constrained by rules of war, which when they were invented never comprehended such groups, which is why we need to rethink these laws

Didge wrote:

Nems wrote:Do we get to panic yet?

Not yet Nems, but these groups are being allowed to thrive, as we are not really taking the fight to them, by as seen using conventional means, we need to make tough and harsh decisions, because over 10 years of conventional war, has failed to stem their growth because we have been seen to be soft and constrained by rules of war, which when they were invented never comprehended such groups, which is why we need to rethink these laws

Completely agree with you.
See crimes that shook Britain last night? Those bastards that murdered Lee Rigby thought/think they are soldiers in a legitimate war.
We are sitting here watching them arm and organise, what happens next? All the Caliphates join to one big Islamic State? Presumably Queenie will be dead by then and you can bet your bum that snivelling Charles will convert to Islam in a heartbeat.

Nems wrote:

Didge wrote:

Not yet Nems, but these groups are being allowed to thrive, as we are not really taking the fight to them, by as seen using conventional means, we need to make tough and harsh decisions, because over 10 years of conventional war, has failed to stem their growth because we have been seen to be soft and constrained by rules of war, which when they were invented never comprehended such groups, which is why we need to rethink these laws

Completely agree with you.
See crimes that shook Britain last night? Those bastards that murdered Lee Rigby thought/think they are soldiers in a legitimate war.
We are sitting here watching them arm and organise, what happens next? All the Caliphates join to one big Islamic State?  Presumably Queenie will be dead by then and you can bet your bum that snivelling Charles will convert to Islam in  a heartbeat.

I think she has a good 10-15 years left in her and I doubt Charles will live much longer than her and his son will succeed.
The fact that Muslim nations are doing little to combat this problem, is why sadly the west will have to yet again intervene.

Didge wrote:

Nems wrote:

Completely agree with you.
See crimes that shook Britain last night? Those bastards that murdered Lee Rigby thought/think they are soldiers in a legitimate war.
We are sitting here watching them arm and organise, what happens next? All the Caliphates join to one big Islamic State?  Presumably Queenie will be dead by then and you can bet your bum that snivelling Charles will convert to Islam in  a heartbeat.

I think she has a good 10-15 years left in her and I doubt Charles will live much longer than her and his son will succeed.
The fact that Muslim nations are doing little to combat this problem, is why sadly the west will have to yet again intervene.

We dont though do we? We tinker around the edges spend squillions and achieve fuck all. Ok we cant change what has happened but we can surely learn from it and take the fight to the enemy before that enemy is on our streets again?

Nems wrote:

Didge wrote:

I think she has a good 10-15 years left in her and I doubt Charles will live much longer than her and his son will succeed.
The fact that Muslim nations are doing little to combat this problem, is why sadly the west will have to yet again intervene.

We dont though do we? We tinker around the edges spend squillions and achieve fuck all. Ok we cant change what has happened but we can surely learn from it and take the fight to the enemy before that enemy is on our streets again?

Which is mine and Victors point, we nee to stop pussy footing around with extremists, our present action is nothing but a gold mine for propaganda for them.
When the Geneva convention was first formulated, it clearly did not take into consideration certain extremists groups., hence why there needs reform

Didge wrote:

Nems wrote:

We dont though do we? We tinker around the edges spend squillions and achieve fuck all. Ok we cant change what has happened but we can surely learn from it and take the fight to the enemy before that enemy is on our streets again?

Which is mine and Victors point, we nee to stop pussy footing around with extremists, our present action is nothing but a gold mine for propaganda for them.
When the Geneva convention was first formulated, it clearly did not take into consideration certain extremists groups., hence why there needs reform

Absolutely, we panic about our enemy's human rights and civilian casualties whilst they laugh at us.

Nems wrote:

Didge wrote:


Which is mine and Victors point, we nee to stop pussy footing around with extremists, our present action is nothing but a gold mine for propaganda for them.
When the Geneva convention was first formulated, it clearly did not take into consideration certain extremists groups., hence why there needs reform

Absolutely, we panic about our enemy's human rights and civilian casualties whilst they laugh at us.

Nail on the head and the point is they are happy for civilians to die to further political gain, the point missed by so many

We have already seen Islamic no go zones here in UK, how long before places like tower hamlets, Bradford etc start to declare themselves caliphates...???

Tommy Monk wrote:We have already seen Islamic no go zones here in UK, how long before places like tower hamlets, Bradford etc start to declare themselves caliphates...???

lol you mean some posters and 3 people convicted, yes the evidence points to the fact of your over exaggeration to media stories.

More denials.....

Well we have seen Sharia Law being enforced on the streets, the radicalisation of school kids and many of our citizens going to fight in Syria etc
Maybe its not such a huge leap?

We love to live,they love to die so they say.WHY DON'T WE HELP THEM?

Maybe thirtip all part of their jihad...?
As les said before, 'not all jihad is violent'....

nicko wrote:We love to live,they love to die so they say.WHY DON'T WE HELP THEM?

Will this do?

Didge wrote:

Nems wrote:

We dont though do we? We tinker around the edges spend squillions and achieve fuck all. Ok we cant change what has happened but we can surely learn from it and take the fight to the enemy before that enemy is on our streets again?

Which is mine and Victors point, we nee to stop pussy footing around with extremists, our present action is nothing but a gold mine for propaganda for them.
When the Geneva convention was first formulated, it clearly did not take into consideration certain extremists groups., hence why there needs reform

Absolutely we need to stop pussy footing around as they obviously don't. We have to uphold the Geneva Convention but it needs to be modernised I agree.

just fire pig shit at them....

Cowardice.....

Again IF we ACTUALLY wanted to we could destroy them without breaking Geneva conventions..... at the moment however this is more profitable/useful to those in power.


I wonder what rights they are preparing to take away now operation: get cowards up in arms in in full swing....
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