Five ways to visualize the human toll

Very interesting site..... I think the Names strikes the hardest

https://medium.com/matter/665-human-beings-22f3dfb5af2b#144d

Every Person Killed in the Gaza Conflict This Month
Five ways to visualize the human toll

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Ages | Nationalities | Combat Status | Names | Words

I started a thread to put the names on every morning Veya, but there were too many and the posts would have filled a page. The number of names now just stun you, and that's only the dead in hundreds, there are the wounded and maimed in thousands, they should put their names on too.

That site is just incredible - I wish more people would look at it.

sphinx wrote:That site is just incredible - I wish more people would look at it.

I agree, it really makes it sink in.

veya_victaous wrote:Very interesting site..... I think the Names strikes the hardest

https://medium.com/matter/665-human-beings-22f3dfb5af2b#144d

Every Person Killed in the Gaza Conflict This Month
Five ways to visualize the human toll

View by:
Ages | Nationalities | Combat Status | Names | Words

Agreed,the names are the worst,made me tearful just reading them.

People with hopes and dreams and loved ones who cared for them.Gone.

Be interesting to see this for Syria, also Iraq, but then with Syria and you have over 150,000 dead, is it too big to fit on one website?
Or is it just some conflicts never seen to gain the same attention and anger?
I wonder how many more have to die there to get the same attention.

What hits me most is looking at it by age or nationality or combatant staturs - those rows of dots...

Wow !

can reason even more with SM and her forthcoming journey.

Dame Sexy Mamma

Didge as bad as Iraq and Syria are, they are civil wars, there is little any outside force can do without getting involved in a major mess. In Gaza we have a powerful occupying force using extreme measures to destroy homes and lives against mostly defenseless civilians. The international community can do little to nothing to stop terrorist groups in Iraq or the regime or rebels in Syria; but the supposedly modern state of Israel should be more prone to international condemnation- should be...

Eilzel wrote:Didge as bad as Iraq and Syria are, they are civil wars, there is little any outside force can do without getting involved in a major mess. In Gaza we have a powerful occupying force using extreme measures to destroy homes and lives against mostly defenseless civilians. The international community can do little to nothing to stop terrorist groups in Iraq or the regime or rebels in Syria; but the supposedly modern state of Israel should be more prone to international condemnation- should be...

WTF.
Wow, who said anything about people being able to do something?
We are talking here over over 150000 lives, 9000 of them being children, which do not even get the same air time or coverage or anger as seen. To then equate extreme methods, have you seen the executions by ISIS Eilzel?
I am not going on about condemnation, but the fact these civilians seem to matter very little compared to in comparison a smaller conflict.
This site shows the deaths , no matter if military or civilian, their ages, their names, where is any to remember those fallen in Syria?


So are you saying is it is okay to not show the same anger, grief and protest such atrocities and civilian deaths, based on the view point Israel is a democratic nation, where others are not and thus they are deemed of a lesser importance?
The international community can do charity work can they not, they can show their objection to this, sorry I fail to see the difference, if you are angered at one, you should be angered at all, it shows people are only concern over who is doing the killing and not who is being killed

Didge, I for one have been talking about Syria for a long time and the utter frustration everyone feels who's heart breaks for the children that are dying out there, not just from the bombings and shellings, but from hunger and dehyrdration in the refugee camps. They feel exactly the same way about those children as they do for the children of Gaza. However, they also feel a sense of complete frustration, because, apart from donating money to try and help alleviate the suffering in the refugee camps THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WE CAN DO.

When it comes to Gaza, we can. We can put pressure on Israel, we can send help to Gaza, the international community can put pressure on because Israel is part of the UN, SO THERE IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO.

We don't feel any less for Syria etc, we just can't do anything. Does that mean, for the children we CAN do something for, we should ignore them?

Again this site is posted to show the deaths of all the individuals who have died so far, the conflict in Syria is ongoing is it is the same in Iraq and yet we see no comparative. Nor do we see the same condemnation, nor do we see the same media hype, which proves again it is more on who is doing the killing in a conflict to who is being killed elsewhere, in that people actively show outrage, which I find very hypocritical to say the least being as over 9000 children have died let alone been injured.

In fact the same can be done in places like Syria, as people are supplying arms there, thus pressure can be applied also, but the reality is, it does not happen, Russia is backing up Assad, and now extremists hold sway more as the rebels.. So again there is a very real concern here how people view each and every conflict, where many innocent people ie and the sad reality is some are relegated to a view point where little is said or spoken out against.

Again it shows there is also something fundamentally wrong in how certain conflicts are covered. The reality is many of these other innocent civilians have been down graded compared to Palestinians, when all should receive the same comparative attention

As Eliezal has already correctly said the huge difference is this in not a civil war !

gerber wrote:As Eliezal has already correctly said the huge difference is this in not a civil war !

So are you saying a civil war makes civilian deaths worth less?

What about the fact that the death of 300 people on the plane took up most of the media time when Gaza was first being attacked.  

Journalists have covered Syria since it started, some have been kidnapped, some have been killed.   Nobody but nobody knows how to do anything about Syria.   That hasn't meant that there has not been huge covering of it,  the plight of the refugee camps, charities working to help them, the millions in them, the ongoing destruction of chemical weapons is covered regularly, the condemnation of anyone going out there etc etc.   It is a terrible, long term, disgusting war, but it is a civil war and there is no pressure we can put on either side.   Gaza being invaded is a (hopefully) short term intense situation, which with enough outside pressure can been brought to an end.   And to inform people, so that outside pressure is brought about, everything that is going on needs to be forced into people's consciousnesses.  

People care about all of it, sometimes, for a particular situation, you have to prioritise, if doing someone quickly is going to make a hell of a lot of difference when you know that the other problem is, at the moment, insolvable.

Anyway, I will catch up with this later

Didge wrote:

gerber wrote:As Eliezal has already correctly said the huge difference is this in not a civil war !

So are you saying a civil war makes civilian deaths worth less?

Not at all and it is ridiculous you can take it as that.

A civil war is completly different from a nation trying to extinguish another.

In a perfect world no disagreement would escalate into war, but to get involved in internal realations has as been shown in the very recent past a dark and dangerous route that leads to nowhere.  making the original cause alot worse. Not to mention unstabling the whole region.

Didge wrote:Again this site is posted to show the deaths of all the individuals who have died so far, the conflict in Syria is ongoing is it is the same in Iraq and yet we see no comparative. Nor do we see the same condemnation, nor do we see the same media hype, which proves again it is more on who is doing the killing in a conflict to who is being killed elsewhere, in that people actively show outrage, which I find very hypocritical to say the least being as over 9000 children have died let alone been injured.

In fact the same can be done in places like Syria, as people are supplying arms there, thus pressure can be applied also, but the reality is, it does not happen, Russia is backing up Assad, and now extremists hold sway more as the rebels.. So again there is a very real concern here how people view each and every conflict, where many innocent people ie and the sad reality is some are relegated to a view point where little is said or spoken out against.

Again it shows there is also something fundamentally wrong in how certain conflicts are covered. The reality is many of these other innocent civilians have been down graded compared to Palestinians, when all should receive the same comparative attention

Indeed Didge. Another 2000 families of Christians have been forced out of Iraq this week - http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/22/isis-robs-christians-fleeing-its-edict-in-mosul-convert-leave-or-die.html

Sassy wrote:What about the fact that the death of 300 people on the plane took up most of the media time when Gaza was first being attacked.  

Journalists have covered Syria since it started, some have been kidnapped, some have been killed.   Nobody but nobody knows how to do anything about Syria.   That hasn't meant that there has not been huge covering of it,  the plight of the refugee camps, charities working to help them, the millions in them, the ongoing destruction of chemical weapons is covered regularly, the condemnation of anyone going out there etc etc.   It is a terrible, long term, disgusting war, but it is a civil war and there is no pressure we can put on either side.   Gaza being invaded is a (hopefully) short term intense situation, which with enough outside pressure can been brought to and end.   And to inform people, so that outside pressure is brought about, everything that is going on needs to be forced into people's consciousnesses.  

People care about all of it, sometimes, for a particular situation, you have to prioritise, if doing someone quickly is going to make a hell of a lot of difference when you know that the other problem is, at the moment, insolvable.

Are you having a bubble bath over a plane being shot down in now changing the point away from my points?
All that is doing is again showing the poor comparative media attention , as I have already pointed add, it thus backs my view point.
The care is not even comparative and as seen people have given me reasons, from a civil war to an invasion in Gaza, to pressure being applied to Israel, that does nothing as is being done here by this sight, where every single person no matter which side is being remembered, by their, name, age, country an whether military or not.
So on every level it clearly proves such anger and outrage by people is clearly based upon who is doing the killing. There is something fundamentally wrong with that, as civilians who are killed in these conflicts are all the same, innocent and thus should receive the same respect, with the same level of outrage, protests and anger at events in these lands.
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Right back later

gerber wrote:

Didge wrote:

So are you saying a civil war makes civilian deaths worth less?

Not at all and it is ridiculous you can take it as that.

A civil war is completly different from a nation trying to extinguish another.

In a perfect world no disagreement would escalate into war, but to get involved in internal realations has as been shown in the very recent past a dark and dangerous route that leads to nowhere.  making the original cause alot worse. Not to mention unstabling the whole region.

WTF, what do you think ISIS goal is Gerber?

Come on, I will give you a clue, the extermination of Shia's.


You are missing the whole point, this is about the victims, where again little outrage, protests and the same anger is shown, with little comparative media coverage over the many victims. The conflicts are covered well, but daily bombs are going off and people dying in Iraq and as Puzzler has just shown countless people who are now refugees :



Tell me Gerber, how many did you read about the below events in the media?







Taji: 58 prisoners by IEDs.
Baghdad: 15 by car bombs.
Falluja: 10 by shelling.
Mosul: 5 by air strikes, 1 law professor by gunfire.
Mahmudiya: 2 by IED.
Shirqat: 2 bodies.

JULY CASUALTIES SO FAR: 1,200 CIVILIANS KILLED.

OVER 8,100 KILLED SINCE JANUARY.


Wednesday 23 July: 36 killed.
Shirqat: 13 killed by air strikes; 1 by gunfire.
Jalawla: 4 by gunfire.
Diyala: 2 in clashes.
Mahmudiya: 2 by bomb in restaurant.
Baghdad: 2 by gunfire; 1 body in river.
Falluja: 5 by shelling.
Mosul: 6 family members by IED.


JULY CASUALTIES SO FAR: 1,107 CIVILIANS KILLED.

Tuesday 22 July: 84 killed
Baghdad: 36 killed by suicide bombers, mortars, gunfire.
Falluja: 14 by shelling.
Baaj: 5 by air strikes.
Samarra: 14 bodies.
Nahrawan: 2 by suicide car bomber.
Jalawla: 5 by gunfire.
Baquba: 1 imam by gunfire.
Baiji: 1 by mortar.
Abu Khaseeb: 1 by gunfire; 1 body.
Sdiratt: 1 by gunfire.
Basra: 1 by gunfire.
Madaen: 2 by IED.

Monday 21 July: 30 killed
Hawija: 7 killed in air strikes.
Kirkuk: 7 bodies of abducted drivers.
Baghdad: 4 by IEDS; 2 bodies.
Ramadi: 1 by car bomb.
Rawa: 2 by mortars.
Falluja: 3 by shelling.
Diyala: 1 Sahwa leader by gunfire.
Deli Abbas: 3 by mortars.


JULY CASUALTIES SO FAR: 987 CIVILIANS KILLED.

Sunday 20 July: 69 killed
Mosul: 28 Yazidis killed.
Falluja: 15 by shelling.
Baghdad: 5 by gunfire, IEDs; 4 bodies.
Taji: 2 bodies.
Mahmudiya: 3 by mortars.
Abu Ghraib: 5 by IED.
Saadiya: 1 woman by gunfire.
Yusufiya: 2 policemen by IED.
Baiji: 4 by shelling.

JULY CASUALTIES SO FAR: 957 CIVILIANS KILLED.

Saturday 19 July: 47 killed
Baghdad: 27 by bombs; 8 bodies.
Safra: 6 family members by gunfire.
Falluja: 3 by shelling.
Muqdadiya: 1 policeman by IED.
Saadiya: 2 by IED.

JULY CASUALTIES SO FAR: 888 CIVILIANS KILLED.

Friday 18 July: 39 killed
Samarra: 20 bodies in river Tigris.
Falluja: 9 by shelling.
Babil: 5 in clashes.
Baghdad: 3 by IEDs.
Madaen: 1 by IED.
Faw: 1 council member by gunfire.

Do not be so condesenging

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/07/25/Australian-Jihadist-Poses-with-Decapitated-Heads
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/07/23/Berlin-Protesters-Display-Extreme-Anti-Semitic-Rhetoric-at-Anti-Israel-Rally

gerber wrote:Do not be so condesenging

Fine, is not my intent but I am passionate about my views so get carried away, so am sorry, but please do not make poor comments which are inaccurate

Right am late for a meetig

Didge wrote:

gerber wrote:Do not be so condesenging

Fine, is not my intent but I am passionate about my views so get carried away, so am sorry, but please do not make poor comments which are inaccurate

Right am late for a meetig

Now your are being patronising.

gerber wrote:

Didge wrote:


Fine, is not my intent but I am passionate about my views so get carried away, so am sorry, but please do not make poor comments which are inaccurate

Right am late for a meetig

Now your are being patronising.

Nope not this time, as seen Isis are trying to exterminate people, thus the claim you made was inaccurate, also I do not believe Israel is trying to extinguish Palestine, they could have done so many times over and never have

So at 3.44 you were late for a meeting, but six minutes later you still posted.

Sassy wrote:So at 3.44 you were late for a meeting, but six minutes later you still posted.  

C'mon Sass don't be so hard on him.

Sassy wrote:So at 3.44 you were late for a meeting, but six minutes later you still posted.  

" meetig "...... 

gerber wrote:

Sassy wrote:So at 3.44 you were late for a meeting, but six minutes later you still posted.  

" meetig "...... 

Smoke break?  ::D::
After all, he's done so much work today posting on here   

Sassy wrote:

gerber wrote:


" meetig "...... 

--- break?  ::D:: 

Am taking advice from the Admiral........

Leaving didge well alone.... 

gerber wrote:

Sassy wrote:

--- break?  ::D:: 

Am taking advice from the Admiral........

Leaving didge well alone.... 

The Admiral is always right.

Shady wrote:

gerber wrote:


Am taking advice from the Admiral........

Leaving didge well alone.... 

The Admiral is always right.

Absolutement !!

gerber wrote:

Shady wrote:

The Admiral is always right.

Absolutement !!

100%

Didge, there was plenty of condemnation of the Assad regime when he first start murdering innocent children, and calls for intervention to stop more of it- sadly this rotten government voted against doing anything at a point when perhaps something could still have been done.

Back to Gaza- another massive difference here is that while ISIS and Assad virtually flaunt their murderous aggression in the face of international outrage, Israel has the audacity to portray itself as a victim and somehow a benevolent state, further, they are backed to the hilt by the hypocritical US government.

As Sass says we cannot stop Assad, and ISIS is complicated, but hard hitting reminders of the human cost in Gaza can or at least should have an effect on the way Israel and the USA act in the face of international opinion.

gerber wrote:

Shady wrote:

The Admiral is always right.

Absolutement !!

Jeez Gerbs, women don't cave, backbone girl, backbone. Push him off the ship!

Eilzel wrote:Didge, there was plenty of condemnation of the Assad regime when he first start murdering innocent children, and calls for intervention to stop more of it- sadly this rotten government voted against doing anything at a point when perhaps something could still have been done.

Back to Gaza- another massive difference here is that while ISIS and Assad virtually flaunt their murderous aggression in the face of international outrage, Israel has the audacity to portray itself as a victim and somehow a benevolent state, further, they are backed to the hilt by the hypocritical US government.

As Sass says we cannot stop Assad, and ISIS is complicated, but hard hitting reminders of the human cost in Gaza can or at least should have an effect on the way Israel and the USA act in the face of international opinion.

100%!

Elizel......

You said a little while ago we rarely agree, but once again spot on.  And for the record I do not have sunstroke nor been on the beetle juice  ::D::

War is hell. I agree this is more of a police action, but at least the police are in charge.

Original Quill wrote:War is hell.  I agree this is more of a police action, but at least the police are in charge.

I think that is one of the most disgusting remarks I have seen for a long time. Well, now we know, Quill doesn't give bugger how many women or children Israel kills.

Sassy wrote:

Original Quill wrote:War is hell.  I agree this is more of a police action, but at least the police are in charge.

I think that is one of the most disgusting remarks I have seen for a long time.   Well, now we know, Quill doesn't give bugger how many women or children Israel kills.

If you cared about those women and children, you wouldn't draft a post about me. You would stick to the point. This thread is not about me, but the many innocent lives that have been taken.

Eyes on the task, sass. Or is this all a game for you?

Original Quill wrote:

Sassy wrote:

I think that is one of the most disgusting remarks I have seen for a long time.   Well, now we know, Quill doesn't give bugger how many women or children Israel kills.

If you cared about those women and children, you wouldn't draft a post about me.  You would stick to the point.  This thread is not about me, but the many innocent lives that have been taken.

Eyes on the task, sass.  Or is this all a game for you?

See, you are doing it again. Using manipulation, trying to be clever, when this is about a horrifying death for hundreds and the terrible injury of thousands and you have the audacity to say 'well at least the police are in charge'.

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That's who you were trying to be clever about. Shame on you.

Sassy wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

If you cared about those women and children, you wouldn't draft a post about me.  You would stick to the point.  This thread is not about me, but the many innocent lives that have been taken.

Eyes on the task, sass.  Or is this all a game for you?

See, you are doing it again.   Using manipulation, trying to be clever, when this is about a horrifying death for hundreds and the terrible injury of thousands and you have the audacity to say 'well at least the police are in charge'.    

It's not about me, sassy. Pay attention!

Original Quill wrote:

Sassy wrote:

See, you are doing it again.   Using manipulation, trying to be clever, when this is about a horrifying death for hundreds and the terrible injury of thousands and you have the audacity to say 'well at least the police are in charge'.    

It's not about me, sassy.  Pay attention!

Nobody is making it about you. Your sick remarks about children's deaths are not appreciated. You're just not important enough to come above all those dead children.

Eilzel wrote:Didge, there was plenty of condemnation of the Assad regime when he first start murdering innocent children, and calls for intervention to stop more of it- sadly this rotten government voted against doing anything at a point when perhaps something could still have been done.

Back to Gaza- another massive difference here is that while ISIS and Assad virtually flaunt their murderous aggression in the face of international outrage, Israel has the audacity to portray itself as a victim and somehow a benevolent state, further, they are backed to the hilt by the hypocritical US government.

As Sass says we cannot stop Assad, and ISIS is complicated, but hard hitting reminders of the human cost in Gaza can or at least should have an effect on the way Israel and the USA act in the face of international opinion.

Sorry Eilzel, all you are doing is by passing all the points I have already made and how events are covered and reacted by people, the later being the most important point.
Sorry also Israel is by right correct to defend itself, wow and you think protests are going to have an affect on Israel, since when?
And the vocal outrage by people against the killings in Iraq and Syria, are you saying people should not be vocal as well?

Sassy wrote:So at 3.44 you were late for a meeting, but six minutes later you still posted.  

Soo all you could do was deflect the points of the debate and go on about the time.
That shows how not only how poor your ability to debate is, but how you deflect the deaths of thousands of more innocent people, which sums you up totally!

Didge wrote:

Eilzel wrote:Didge, there was plenty of condemnation of the Assad regime when he first start murdering innocent children, and calls for intervention to stop more of it- sadly this rotten government voted against doing anything at a point when perhaps something could still have been done.

Back to Gaza- another massive difference here is that while ISIS and Assad virtually flaunt their murderous aggression in the face of international outrage, Israel has the audacity to portray itself as a victim and somehow a benevolent state, further, they are backed to the hilt by the hypocritical US government.

As Sass says we cannot stop Assad, and ISIS is complicated, but hard hitting reminders of the human cost in Gaza can or at least should have an effect on the way Israel and the USA act in the face of international opinion.

Sorry Eilzel, all you are doing is by passing all the points I have already made and how events are covered and reacted by people, the later being the most important point.
Sorry also Israel is by right correct to defend itself, wow and you think protests are going to have an affect on Israel, since when?
And the vocal outrage by people against the killings in Iraq and Syria, are you saying people should not be vocal as well?

Guess you missed this:

Israel facing new divestment support in US

Human rights and corporate responsibility prompt a US church to divest from companies doing business with Israel.

The Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement, which aims to pressure Israel to comply with international law and end its military occupation of Palestinian territories, has garnered significant institutional and governmental support in recent years.

Much of its growth has been in Europe, but the BDS movement is also gaining momentum in mainstream USA.

The Presbyterian Church (USA) voted in June to divest from three companies doing business with Israel: Caterpillar, Motorola Solutions, and Hewlett-Packard.

The three were targeted for selling equipment used to facilitate Israel’s illegal activities on occupied land, highlighting yet again the question of corporate responsibility regarding international law and human rights.

Crushed to death

In 2003, when student activist Rachel Corrie was crushed to death in Gaza as she tried to prevent the razing of a Palestinian home, much attention was directed to the manufacturer of the Israeli bulldozer that killed her.

Caterpillar Inc, the Illinois-based company whose equipment had been used worldwide for over eight decades to build dams, highways, and pipelines and assist in disaster recovery efforts, was now seen by some as complicit in Israel’s occupation of the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem.

Israel had been buying and "weaponising" Caterpillar bulldozers then using them to demolish Palestinian homes, build settlements and the separation wall, clear land to build Jewish-only roads, uproot olive and fruit trees, and carry out military operations.

Corrie’s parents later brought a federal lawsuit against Caterpillar, charging the company with "…aiding and abetting war crimes and other serious human rights violations on the grounds that the company provided bulldozers to the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) knowing that they would be used unlawfully to demolish homes and endanger civilians in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT)."

The court ultimately decided that considering the case "would intrude upon the executive branch’s foreign policy decisions".

But, it was Corrie’s tragic death that brought Caterpillar to the attention of the Presbyterian Church (USA) Committee on Mission Responsibility Through Investment.

Since that time, the committee has pursued "progressive engagement" with Caterpillar, Motorola Solutions, and Hewlett-Packard to discuss their accountability regarding "non-peaceful pursuits" in the region.

After years of correspondence, dialogues, proxy voting, and filing shareholder resolutions, however, the committee concluded that the three companies were not in compliance with church policy. On June 20, the Church voted to divest.

Two years earlier, Morgan Stanley Capital International, a leading evaluator of corporations based on various criteria - downgraded Caterpillar’s Environmental, Social and Governance rating, thereby removing it from several of its indices.

This prompted the retirement benefits leader Teachers Insurance and Annuity Association of America-College Retirement Equities Fund to divest its holdings from Caterpillar, which the growing BDS movement hailed as a big victory.

In 2012, two more religious groups - the United Methodist Church and the Quaker Friends Fiduciary Corporation - passed resolutions regarding BDS, the former supporting the boycott of products made in Israeli settlements, with the latter divesting its stockholdings in Caterpillar, HP, and Veolia Environnement, a French water, waste and transport management company whose services many say buttress Israel’s discriminatory policies.

A year later, several Methodist regional conferences also voted to divest, and the Mennonite Central Committee board voted not to invest knowingly "in companies that benefit from products or services used to perpetrate acts of violence against Palestinians, Israelis and other people groups".

Business and human rights

Nahida Halaby Gordon, who serves on the steering committee of the Israel Palestine Mission Network of the Presbyterian Church (USA), places responsibility squarely on Caterpillar, HP and Motorola.

"If they see that a given customer is using their products in a regular and inhumane manner … then it is their responsibility to do everything they can to stop such behaviour, and if they cannot, then to stop selling to such customers. This can be clearly done in the case of Israeli occupation forces," she said.

Caterpillar disagrees.

In a statement provided to Al Jazeera, the company states that, "Caterpillar cannot monitor the use of every piece of its equipment around the world."

The company goes on to say, "… we recognise the responsibility companies have to encourage the constructive use of their products."

Faris Natour, Director of Human Rights at Business for Social Responsibility, a global nonprofit network that blends business with justice and sustainability, said that this idea comes from the United Nations’ 2011 document, Guiding Principles on Business and Human Rights, which provides the framework for the concept of corporations’ responsibility to operate with respect for international law and human rights.

Although they are nonbinding, adopting these principles is good for business, avoids negative attention, and is simply the "right thing to do," said Natour.

Motorola Solutions offered a brief statement to Al Jazeera which referred to the company’s human rights policy, found in the 2013 Corporate Responsibility Report: "Motorola Solutions has a comprehensive set of policies and procedures that addresses human rights, which is designed to ensure that our operations worldwide are conducted using the highest standards of integrity and ethical business conduct applied uniformly and consistently."

However, reading Motorola’s human rights policy shows that the company only addresses internal employee issues such as a safe work place and fair wages and working hours.

The products Motorola sells to Israel include a communications network and a surveillance system for the army as well as electronic bomb fuzes.

Indeed, in their investigation of Israel’s use of drones fitted with missiles in the Gaza war of 2008-2009, Human Rights Watch found debris and missile components with labels from Motorola.

Hewlett-Packard presented the following brief statement regarding the Presbyterian Church (USA) divestment decision: "Respecting human rights is a core value at HP and is embedded in the way we do business. We have strong policies that promote regular human rights risk assessments, provide access to independent grievance mechanisms, prompt investigations of credible allegations and encourage transparent reporting."

These are precisely the policies that Pastor Geoff Browning, a former HP employee and now a Presbyterian campus minister with Progressive Christians @ Stanford University, calls potential " window dressing".

"At this last shareholders’ meeting," in 2014, he and others criticised the company’s "continued sales and collaboration with the IDF [as] contrary to HP’s commitment to social responsibility and human rights. Companies need to be aware that the sales of their products are not neutral or value-less, but are part of and affect their brand", Browning told Al Jazeera.

"Hewlett-Packard provides bio-scanners that are used to racially profile Palestinians and to track and control their movement," explained Anna Baltzer, national organiser for the US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation, a national coalition that has mobilised support for boycott and divestment efforts.

"It is no overstatement to say that many of these campaigns have dramatically shifted the discourse around Israel/Palestine - in the mainstream media, on university campuses, in the church pews, and beyond - in an unprecedented way," she added.

Guiding Principles

The UN’s Guiding Principles state that the "responsibility to respect human rights requires that business enterprises… Seek to prevent or mitigate adverse human rights impacts that are directly linked to their operations, products or services by their business relationships, even if they have not contributed to those impacts."

The document also places some responsibility on the shoulders of the "home" states of transnational corporations.

The United States’ Foreign Military Financing and arms sales to Israel add up to $3.1bn annually, with generous financing terms; this amount provides nearly a quarter of Israel’s overall military budget.

Although, in an unprecedented measure, Washington granted Tel Aviv the benefit to purchase equipment from Israeli contractors, Israel also procures a significant amount from US-based defence companies, a fact that solidifies the connection between US foreign policy and business agendas.

If the US government considers Israel a strategic partner and provides it with massive amounts of military aid, yet is unwilling to hold it accountable for human rights violations, then why should US businesses be held accountable for US policy?

"Corporations, like any entities, have a responsibility to abide by the law, ethical standards, and international norms. They are not immune," says Baltzer.

Indeed, putting pressure on them is one of many efforts under way to influence US policy in the Middle East

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2014/07/presbyterian-israel-facing-new-divestment-support-us-20147238133786329.html

Not only happening in America

Sassy wrote:

Didge wrote:


Sorry Eilzel, all you are doing is by passing all the points I have already made and how events are covered and reacted by people, the later being the most important point.
Sorry also Israel is by right correct to defend itself, wow and you think protests are going to have an affect on Israel, since when?
And the vocal outrage by people against the killings in Iraq and Syria, are you saying people should not be vocal as well?

Guess you missed this:

Israel facing new divestment support in US

Human rights and corporate responsibility prompt a US church to divest from companies doing business with Israel.

The Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement, which aims to pressure Israel to comply with international law and end its military occupation of Palestinian territories, has garnered significant institutional and governmental support in recent years.

Much of its growth has been in Europe, but the BDS movement is also gaining momentum in mainstream USA.

The Presbyterian Church (USA) voted in June to divest from three companies doing business with Israel: Caterpillar, Motorola Solutions, and Hewlett-Packard.

The three were targeted for selling equipment used to facilitate Israel’s illegal activities on occupied land, highlighting yet again the question of corporate responsibility regarding international law and human rights.

Crushed to death

In 2003, when student activist Rachel Corrie was crushed to death in Gaza as she tried to prevent the razing of a Palestinian home, much attention was directed to the manufacturer of the Israeli bulldozer that killed her.

Caterpillar Inc, the Illinois-based company whose equipment had been used worldwide for over eight decades to build dams, highways, and pipelines and assist in disaster recovery efforts, was now seen by some as complicit in Israel’s occupation of the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem.

Israel had been buying and "weaponising" Caterpillar bulldozers then using them to demolish Palestinian homes, build settlements and the separation wall, clear land to build Jewish-only roads, uproot olive and fruit trees, and carry out military operations.

Corrie’s parents later brought a federal lawsuit against Caterpillar, charging the company with "…aiding and abetting war crimes and other serious human rights violations on the grounds that the company provided bulldozers to the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) knowing that they would be used unlawfully to demolish homes and endanger civilians in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT)."

The court ultimately decided that considering the case "would intrude upon the executive branch’s foreign policy decisions".

But, it was Corrie’s tragic death that brought Caterpillar to the attention of the Presbyterian Church (USA) Committee on Mission Responsibility Through Investment.

Since that time, the committee has pursued "progressive engagement" with Caterpillar, Motorola Solutions, and Hewlett-Packard to discuss their accountability regarding "non-peaceful pursuits" in the region.

After years of correspondence, dialogues, proxy voting, and filing shareholder resolutions, however, the committee concluded that the three companies were not in compliance with church policy. On June 20, the Church voted to divest.

Two years earlier, Morgan Stanley Capital International, a leading evaluator of corporations based on various criteria - downgraded Caterpillar’s Environmental, Social and Governance rating, thereby removing it from several of its indices.

This prompted the retirement benefits leader Teachers Insurance and Annuity Association of America-College Retirement Equities Fund to divest its holdings from Caterpillar, which the growing BDS movement hailed as a big victory.

In 2012, two more religious groups - the United Methodist Church and the Quaker Friends Fiduciary Corporation - passed resolutions regarding BDS, the former supporting the boycott of products made in Israeli settlements, with the latter divesting its stockholdings in Caterpillar, HP, and Veolia Environnement, a French water, waste and transport management company whose services many say buttress Israel’s discriminatory policies.

A year later, several Methodist regional conferences also voted to divest, and the Mennonite Central Committee board voted not to invest knowingly "in companies that benefit from products or services used to perpetrate acts of violence against Palestinians, Israelis and other people groups".

Business and human rights

Nahida Halaby Gordon, who serves on the steering committee of the Israel Palestine Mission Network of the Presbyterian Church (USA), places responsibility squarely on Caterpillar, HP and Motorola.

"If they see that a given customer is using their products in a regular and inhumane manner … then it is their responsibility to do everything they can to stop such behaviour, and if they cannot, then to stop selling to such customers. This can be clearly done in the case of Israeli occupation forces," she said.

Caterpillar disagrees.

In a statement provided to Al Jazeera, the company states that, "Caterpillar cannot monitor the use of every piece of its equipment around the world."

The company goes on to say, "… we recognise the responsibility companies have to encourage the constructive use of their products."

Faris Natour, Director of Human Rights at Business for Social Responsibility, a global nonprofit network that blends business with justice and sustainability, said that this idea comes from the United Nations’ 2011 document, Guiding Principles on Business and Human Rights, which provides the framework for the concept of corporations’ responsibility to operate with respect for international law and human rights.

Although they are nonbinding, adopting these principles is good for business, avoids negative attention, and is simply the "right thing to do," said Natour.

Motorola Solutions offered a brief statement to Al Jazeera which referred to the company’s human rights policy, found in the 2013 Corporate Responsibility Report: "Motorola Solutions has a comprehensive set of policies and procedures that addresses human rights, which is designed to ensure that our operations worldwide are conducted using the highest standards of integrity and ethical business conduct applied uniformly and consistently."

However, reading Motorola’s human rights policy shows that the company only addresses internal employee issues such as a safe work place and fair wages and working hours.

The products Motorola sells to Israel include a communications network and a surveillance system for the army as well as electronic bomb fuzes.

Indeed, in their investigation of Israel’s use of drones fitted with missiles in the Gaza war of 2008-2009, Human Rights Watch found debris and missile components with labels from Motorola.

Hewlett-Packard presented the following brief statement regarding the Presbyterian Church (USA) divestment decision: "Respecting human rights is a core value at HP and is embedded in the way we do business. We have strong policies that promote regular human rights risk assessments, provide access to independent grievance mechanisms, prompt investigations of credible allegations and encourage transparent reporting."

These are precisely the policies that Pastor Geoff Browning, a former HP employee and now a Presbyterian campus minister with Progressive Christians @ Stanford University, calls potential " window dressing".

"At this last shareholders’ meeting," in 2014, he and others criticised the company’s "continued sales and collaboration with the IDF [as] contrary to HP’s commitment to social responsibility and human rights. Companies need to be aware that the sales of their products are not neutral or value-less, but are part of and affect their brand", Browning told Al Jazeera.

"Hewlett-Packard provides bio-scanners that are used to racially profile Palestinians and to track and control their movement," explained Anna Baltzer, national organiser for the US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation, a national coalition that has mobilised support for boycott and divestment efforts.

"It is no overstatement to say that many of these campaigns have dramatically shifted the discourse around Israel/Palestine - in the mainstream media, on university campuses, in the church pews, and beyond - in an unprecedented way," she added.

Guiding Principles

The UN’s Guiding Principles state that the "responsibility to respect human rights requires that business enterprises… Seek to prevent or mitigate adverse human rights impacts that are directly linked to their operations, products or services by their business relationships, even if they have not contributed to those impacts."

The document also places some responsibility on the shoulders of the "home" states of transnational corporations.

The United States’ Foreign Military Financing and arms sales to Israel add up to $3.1bn annually, with generous financing terms; this amount provides nearly a quarter of Israel’s overall military budget.

Although, in an unprecedented measure, Washington granted Tel Aviv the benefit to purchase equipment from Israeli contractors, Israel also procures a significant amount from US-based defence companies, a fact that solidifies the connection between US foreign policy and business agendas.

If the US government considers Israel a strategic partner and provides it with massive amounts of military aid, yet is unwilling to hold it accountable for human rights violations, then why should US businesses be held accountable for US policy?

"Corporations, like any entities, have a responsibility to abide by the law, ethical standards, and international norms. They are not immune," says Baltzer.

Indeed, putting pressure on them is one of many efforts under way to influence US policy in the Middle East

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2014/07/presbyterian-israel-facing-new-divestment-support-us-20147238133786329.html

Not only happening in America

Oh wow sassy not able to answer and using C&P again, what a surprise.
Again do you think any affect is going to happen on Israel?

The answer?


Zero

Nice that you still avoid all the points though because as seen where people have an agenda of hate as you do, with a conviction to ensure Israel is over run and faces a second holocaust, it is of little concern that other nations are facing a far greater humanitarian crisis and this is the point about how people will use as you do the victims of a conflict for your political gain. AS stated before you never condemn Hamas for committing war crime,s with firing rockets into Israel let alone creating many of the casualties by placing rockets within civilians areas, where as I condemn Israel if they commit indiscriminate attacks. In fact yesterday you actually justified Israel attacking civilians, stating Hamas has a right to defend itself by attacking civilians, you made that very clear yesterday and think it is not a crime for hamas to make indiscrminate attacks

Didge, why don't you just declare yourself God?

God has spoken, bow down people lol You're a laughing stock these days.

The only problem is, Jews are heavily represented in American corporations, as well as stockholders' consortiums. And Jews favour Israel.

It's not all a one-sided question. Many legitimately side with Israel on this.