marxist and liberalists (progressives)

by Guest Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:54 pm

the unstated marxist agenda, well understood and approved of by the liberalists (progressives), in lieu of anything intelligent of their own

The creation of racism offences yup, done
Continual change to create confusion yup, done
The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children yup, done
The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority yup, done by 1973
Huge immigration to destroy identity well on its way
The promotion of excessive drinking yup, another one ticked off
Emptying of churches we are getting there
An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime yup, done
Dependency on the state or state benefits yup, done but its costing too much, so we will demonise the poor instead
Control and dumbing down of media achieved years ago, but increasing
Encouraging the breakdown of the family[1] we are getting there

by Guest Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:59 pm

The idea that British children grew up in typical two-parent families until the permissiveness of the 1960s has been challenged by an academic.

Prof Pat Thane argued that until World War Two, significant numbers of people never married.

She also cited evidence that in 1939, some 30% of children were conceived out of wedlock.

The Family Education Trust responded by saying that marriage rates had fallen steeply since 1970.

The professor in contemporary history at King's College, London, said: "There is a well-known narrative in Britain about the history of the family - that 'traditionally' people lived in stable two-parent families with married parents who stayed together life-long, boys had fathers at home for role-models who kept them disciplined, and everyone looked after the older generation.

"Then came the 1960s and permissiveness, and people started divorcing, living together and having babies outside marriage; unprecedented numbers of complex families of step-relatives formed; and British society was 'broken' as some would put it.

"I want suggest that the real story is a bit more complicated."
Continue reading the main story
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The change in the 1960s - and there certainly was change - was that it becomes more honest”

Prof Pat Thane Kings College, London

The professor, who is presenting her research this weekend at the Economic History Society's annual conference at the University of Warwick, said: "Of course there have been major changes since the early 1970s.

"In particular, divorce, open cohabitation and childbirth outside marriage became more widespread and socially accepted and the reasons for this need to be explored. But the longer-term story is more complex and less well understood."

Prof Thane acknowledged that there was at least one point between 1945 and 1979 that marriage became "almost universal".

But she said: "This is a period which, in present-day discourse, is often presented as an historical norm of long-lasting stable marriages. It was actually historically very unusual in the numbers of long-lasting marriages."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-26784754

You have those rose coloured specs on about the past Victor, you really have.

by Guest Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:02 pm

whats that got to do with any of the points above? you havnt been taking lessons from didge have you????

by Eilzel Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:06 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:the unstated marxist agenda, well understood and approved of by the liberalists (progressives), in lieu of anything intelligent of their own

The creation of racism offences yup, done
Continual change to create confusion yup, done
The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children yup, done
The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority yup, done by 1973
Huge immigration to destroy identity well on its way
The promotion of excessive drinking yup, another one ticked off
Emptying of churches we are getting there
An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime yup, done
Dependency on the state or state benefits yup, done but its costing too much, so we will demonise the poor instead
Control and dumbing down of media achieved years ago, but increasing
Encouraging the breakdown of the family[1] we are getting there

1. So racism is ok?
2. So the world should stand still?
3. So gay kids shouldn't be told there is nothing wrong with them?
4. .... I'll give you that one.
5. Was that the reason for immigration? And has our national identity gone?
6. Excessive drinking is promoted? I thought beer prices had risen, pubs were closing, you couldn't smoke in pubs anymore and there were advertising campaigns against it (as well as storylines in TV shows showing the damage of alcohol).
7. Churches empty- and was this forced by the state or caused by the churches themselves?
8. ... well it can be unreliable so I'll concede that one.
9. So what % of the nation are ACTUALLY dependent on benefits?
10. ... I'll give you that, some parts of the media and government definitely demonize the poor.
11. The media controlled by whom exactly? The BBC? ITV? Channel 4? Murdoch's Sky? Virgin? News Corp? The Guardian? The Mirror? The Daily Mail?
12. How is the breakdown of the family encouraged? It hasn't worked in any case, at least in my experience (maybe I'm fortunate) I know very few broken homes.

by Eilzel Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:06 pm

Btw none of that is Marxist- demonize the poor? You must know nothing about Marx.

by Tommy Monk Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:22 pm

You put up an argument full of concessions.

by Eilzel Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:26 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:You put up an argument full of concessions.

I think you miss the point (a regular habit of yours I know). I put up a list of responses. But I wont debate this with you, since you are a complete dunce- I'll wait for victor's response thanks Smile

by Guest Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:30 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:whats that got to do with any of the points above? you havnt been taking lessons from didge have you????

Re the breakdown of families Victor.

I think Les has put it very well

And I thought you always said you were a Nationalist Socialist?

by Guest Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:16 pm

Eilzel wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:the unstated marxist agenda, well understood and approved of by the liberalists (progressives), in lieu of anything intelligent of their own

The creation of racism offences yup, done

No, but why do we need offences like "aggravated assault) in the sense that the "motive aggravates it, rather than the means...i,e a club rather than fists for example)
assault is assault, regardless, and punishing the reason behind the attack is NOT going to change the assailants view of his target.

Continual change to create confusion yup, done

yes change happens, but we are subject to meaningless changes...in law in social ideas (a lot of which are experimental "social engineering) in dietry advice most of which is contradictory, and quite frankly does NOT reflect best knowlege or practice)

The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children yup, done

Interesting one this, we teach them ALL about sex at a really early age now, we then subject them to a sexualised society, then we tell them its naughty ????????????
WTF....no wonder kids are nuts by the time they get to 10???

The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority yup, done by 1973

We agree

Huge immigration to destroy identity well on its way

So far the level has been sufficiently low so the effect is minimal, but our cultural identity HAS changed, IMO NOT for the better.....

The promotion of excessive drinking yup, another one ticked off

Pub and club opening hours, failure to deal with "supermarket prices" Failure to crack down on rowdy drunken fools in
"pub and club land areas.

Emptying of churches we are getting there

I dont say this is of necessity bad, but i'd say this is a moral reflection on the leadership

An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime yup, done

we agree. Too much emphasis on looking after the perps, insuficiently harsh punishments and imprisonment regimes

Dependency on the state or state benefits yup, done but its costing too much, so we will demonise the poor instead

if you include the working poor and those on minimum wage who get "top up benefits " a MASSIVE %age

Control and dumbing down of media achieved years ago, but increasing

Most media is controlled by "them upstairs2 and TV has most certainly been successfully controlled and dumbed down...Then take a look on your newsagents shelves...Once there was 100's of magazines which gave practical knowlege on a huge range of things. Now what do you see..."heat" "zoo" cleb this and that...ALL mindless dumbf**k rubbish with NO use except to numb the mind of the already mindless.

Encouraging the breakdown of the family[1] we are getting there

Divorce rates and the number of single parent families????

1. So racism is ok?
2. So the world should stand still?
3. So gay kids shouldn't be told there is nothing wrong with them?
4. .... I'll give you that one.
5. Was that the reason for immigration? And has our national identity gone?
6. Excessive drinking is promoted? I thought beer prices had risen, pubs were closing, you couldn't smoke in pubs anymore and there were advertising campaigns against it (as well as storylines in TV shows showing the damage of alcohol).
7. Churches empty- and was this forced by the state or caused by the churches themselves?
8. ... well it can be unreliable so I'll concede that one.
9. So what % of the nation are ACTUALLY dependent on benefits?
10. ... I'll give you that, some parts of the media and government definitely demonize the poor.
11. The media controlled by whom exactly? The BBC? ITV? Channel 4? Murdoch's Sky? Virgin? News Corp? The Guardian? The Mirror? The Daily Mail?
12. How is the breakdown of the family encouraged? It hasn't worked in any case, at least in my experience (maybe I'm fortunate) I know very few broken homes.

by Guest Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:20 pm

Sassy wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:whats that got to do with any of the points above? you havnt been taking lessons from didge have you????

Re the breakdown of families Victor.

I think Les has put it very well

And I thought you always said you were a Nationalist Socialist?

national socialist...socialists are not all of the marxist camp...and certainly NOT of the liberalist marxist camp.

I DONT WANT wholesale benefits.....benefits are there as a safety net. I want jobs...that pay real living wages. I want to screw the "industrialist" so hard his eyes water so that his tears of gratitude water the fields of fair wages....

by Guest Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:22 pm

Eilzel wrote:Btw none of that is Marxist- demonize the poor? You must know nothing about Marx.

Oh I do, its just that the present lot of liberalist progessives are in it over their heads lack balls and have nowhere else to turn

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:29 am

victorisnotamused wrote:the unstated marxist agenda, well understood and approved of by the liberalists (progressives), in lieu of anything intelligent of their own

The creation of racism offences yup, done
Continual change to create confusion yup, done
The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children yup, done
The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority yup, done by 1973
Huge immigration to destroy identity well on its way
The promotion of excessive drinking yup, another one ticked off
Emptying of churches we are getting there
An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime yup, done
Dependency on the state or state benefits yup, done but its costing too much, so we will demonise the poor instead
Control and dumbing down of media achieved years ago, but increasing
Encouraging the breakdown of the family[1] we are getting there

You've got some serious issues with immigrants/ foreigners Vic, not to mention the unemployed...
Hate breeds hate Victor and you seem to revel in this nowadays.

Rather than post hateful , spiteful stuff...why don't you go and do something g about your concerns?...

It seems the Internet only infuriates you further, and your most definitely extreme RW.

Most of you regressive righties are the same, bar the like of our Gerber, she is a wee gem and can see things for what they are, she doesn't carry about hated like you ...

What went wrong with you Victor?, you really are letting it all out now...

Go do something about things if you ain't happy with them chap.

Ps...your wee list of hate is truly awful Victor, I'm cringing for you.

by veya_victaous Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:39 am

Anyone referring to Marxism as a current political economic practice is obsolete.

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:51 am

veya_victaous wrote:Anyone referring to Marxism as a current political economic practice is obsolete.

I'm just referring to Victor having a huge chip on his shoulder about Muslims, blacks, immigrants etc.

I'm really disappointed.

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:09 am

Joy Division wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:the unstated marxist agenda, well understood and approved of by the liberalists (progressives), in lieu of anything intelligent of their own

The creation of racism offences yup, done
Continual change to create confusion yup, done
The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children yup, done
The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority yup, done by 1973
Huge immigration to destroy identity well on its way
The promotion of excessive drinking yup, another one ticked off
Emptying of churches we are getting there
An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime yup, done
Dependency on the state or state benefits yup, done but its costing too much, so we will demonise the poor instead
Control and dumbing down of media achieved years ago, but increasing
Encouraging the breakdown of the family[1] we are getting there

You've got some serious issues with immigrants/ foreigners Vic, not to mention the unemployed...
Hate breeds hate Victor and you seem to revel in this nowadays.

Rather than post hateful , spiteful stuff...why don't you go and do something g about your concerns?...

It seems the Internet only infuriates you further, and your most definitely extreme RW.

Most of you regressive righties are the same, bar the like of our Gerber, she is a wee gem and can see things for what they are, she doesn't carry about hated like you ...

What went wrong with you Victor?, you really are letting it all out now...

Go do something about things if you ain't happy with them chap.

Ps...your wee list of hate is truly awful Victor, I'm cringing for you.

Learn to read plonker....especially the followup list I posted as a reply to Eil....
where does any of that show a "problem" with the unemployed..eh? idiot...thats right ...it doesnt...does it...

what did I say?????

I DONT WANT wholesale benefits.....benefits are there as a safety net. I want jobs...that pay real living wages. I want to screw the "industrialist" so hard his eyes water so that his tears of gratitude water the fields of fair wages....

JD stop pretending to have a brain it doesnt work......

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:11 am

Joy Division wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:Anyone referring to Marxism as a current political economic practice is obsolete.

I'm just referring to Victor having a huge chip on his shoulder about Muslims, blacks, immigrants etc.

I'm really disappointed.

keep up the lies JD....some sad sac will belive you eventually....perhaps....
can you show where in that list it shows a "problem" with immigrants??
or are you going to carry on making vague and unsupportable accusations

by Tommy Monk Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:08 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:You put up an argument full of concessions.
I think you miss the point (a regular habit of yours I know). I put up a list of responses. But I wont debate this with you, since you are a complete dunce- I'll wait for victor's response thanks

You won't debate with me because you know you will get spanked again.

You have already tried to argue against victor with a list of concessions.

What a twat!

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:56 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
Joy Division wrote:

I'm just referring to Victor having a huge chip on his shoulder about Muslims, blacks, immigrants etc.

I'm really disappointed.

keep up the lies JD....some sad sac will belive you eventually....perhaps....
can you show where in that list it shows a "problem" with immigrants??
or are you going to carry on making vague and unsupportable accusations

..no really Victor, you really should have named this thread....

The people the RW don't like as they don't Judge others, hound folk on benefits and assume that most of them are their by choice on some kind of easy street amd who don't believe in targeting black people, immigrants and the disabled,...

But that is too long a headline..and that would still not be telling the full story.

Who are all these people taking advantage of Benefits Victor?

Have you got a figure for that?

I really thought you were better than this chief.

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:09 pm

I think we're describing Cultural Marxism:

........... "Separately, two Marxist theorists-Antonio Gramsci of Italy and Georg Lukacs of Hungary-concluded that the Christianized West was the obstacle standing in the way of a communist new world order. The West would have to be conquered first. Gramsci posited that because Christianity had been dominant in the West for over 2000 years, not only was it fused with Western civilization, but it had corrupted the workers class. The West would have to be de-Christianized, said Gramsci, by means of a "long march through the culture."............

The new battleground, reasoned Gramsci, must become the culture, starting with the traditional family and completely engulfing churches, schools, media, entertainment, civic organizations, literature, science, and history. All of these things must be radically transformed and the social and cultural order gradually turned upside-down with the new proletariat placed in power at the top.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/02/cultural_marxism.html

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:14 pm

Tesstacious wrote:I think we're describing Cultural Marxism:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/02/cultural_marxism.html

Well, either way Tess...Victor has his wee list up describing the immigrants and foreigners ruining this country, and how folk on benefits are taking all...

Yes , some are bone idle assholes , but I just hate when things are misrepresented, distortion and twisting,,,nasty and spiteful.

The kind of handle bar moist ache attitude, like he would somehow run this country so much better....

Another George Osborne more like ...but most likely another Farage or Griffin.

by gerber Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:36 pm

veya_victaous wrote:Anyone referring to Marxism as a current political economic practice is obsolete.

So millipede and balls are obsolete.......... Stonking news.......

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:46 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:the unstated marxist agenda, well understood and approved of by the liberalists (progressives), in lieu of anything intelligent of their own

The creation of racism offences yup, done
Continual change to create confusion yup, done
The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children yup, done
The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority yup, done by 1973
Huge immigration to destroy identity well on its way
The promotion of excessive drinking yup, another one ticked off
Emptying of churches we are getting there
An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime yup, done
Dependency on the state or state benefits yup, done but its costing too much, so we will demonise the poor instead
Control and dumbing down of media achieved years ago, but increasing
Encouraging the breakdown of the family[1] we are getting there

a frightening agenda and all going very well..

by Eilzel Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:09 pm

This is all conspiratorial BS to be honest. If people wanted to go to church and be practicing Christians they would. The rest is a hideous mix up confusing problems caused by Left Wing and Right Wing governments over the years but which are utterly unrelated.

Talk about fitting issues to suit a particular view of why things are the way there are- this is up there with Biblical 'End Times' lunacy- stop looking for bogey men in the wardrobes for Christ's sake hahahaha

by Tommy Monk Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:21 pm

I think the article posted by Tess explains exactly what is going on.

Bit by bit, progressively!!!!

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:56 pm

Joy Division wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:

keep up the lies JD....some sad sac will belive you eventually....perhaps....
can you show where in that list it shows a "problem" with immigrants??
or are you going to carry on making vague and unsupportable accusations

..no really Victor, you really should have named this thread....

The people the RW don't like as they don't Judge others, hound folk on benefits and assume that most of them are their by choice on some kind of easy street amd who don't believe in targeting black people, immigrants and the disabled,...

But that is too long a headline..and that would still not be telling the full story.

Who are all these people taking advantage of Benefits Victor?

Have you got a figure for that?

I really thought you were better than this chief.

Will you stop fucking lying like a plonker, and learn to READ........

where did I say ANYTHING AT ALL...about people "taking advantage" of benefits....oh right once again I didnt...
I would have thought that even a cretin (actually i like smelly's description....imbecile)like you could see the difference between state fostered dependance and taking advantage....
silly silly boy....

where did (or have I EVER ) made ANY comment about folks on benefit "living on easy street" oh ...again...I havnt...
do me a favour and crawl back into your intellectually challenged hole and shove your head up your arse until you learn to read whats said...rather than what you immagine is said...

As for immigration...I have forever said I have a problem with the unrestricted "open door " policy
however I have said in the past that the change I would make is to slam the door shut...for now....legitimise the status of ALL those that are here...so no such thing as a question of their legality could EVER arise and then, after a period of time.,,slowly ....open the gates again...That, coupled with a harsh program of investigation into rogue employers would have the best beneficial effect.

The fact i have problems with certain "cultural issues" is another matter
the fact I have problems with anyone from anywhere comming here to collect whatever they can is another matter
the fact i have issues with the constant failure of the authorities to deport real criminals is another matter...

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:58 pm

Joy Division wrote:
Tesstacious wrote:I think we're describing Cultural Marxism:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/02/cultural_marxism.html

Well, either way Tess...Victor has his wee list up describing the immigrants and foreigners ruining this country, and how folk on benefits are taking all...

Yes , some are bone idle assholes , but I just hate when things are misrepresented, distortion and twisting,,,nasty and spiteful.

The kind of handle bar moist ache attitude, like he would somehow run this country so much better....

Another George Osborne more like ...but most likely another Farage or Griffin.

piss of JD...you cant read, and you CERTAINLY cant think......

pick up ONE distortion to the effect of what you said in your first line of this post.....

go on...DO IT...or if you cant ...appologies you scumbag liar

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:01 pm

Eilzel wrote:This is all conspiratorial BS to be honest. If people wanted to go to church and be practicing Christians they would. The rest is a hideous mix up confusing problems caused by Left Wing and Right Wing governments over the years but which are utterly unrelated.

Talk about fitting issues to suit a particular view of why things are the way there are- this is up there with Biblical 'End Times' lunacy- stop looking for bogey men in the wardrobes for Christ's sake hahahaha

and do what..sit there with rose tinted glasses singing .....all is well ....all is well???? when it damn well isnt.....

and actually its not what you claim...this is the "cultural marxism" agenda...and has been around for MANY years.....

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:24 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:the unstated marxist agenda, well understood and approved of by the liberalists (progressives), in lieu of anything intelligent of their own

The creation of racism offences yup, done
Continual change to create confusion yup, done
The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children yup, done
The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority yup, done by 1973
Huge immigration to destroy identity well on its way
The promotion of excessive drinking yup, another one ticked off
Emptying of churches we are getting there
An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime yup, done
Dependency on the state or state benefits yup, done but its costing too much, so we will demonise the poor instead
Control and dumbing down of media achieved years ago, but increasing
Encouraging the breakdown of the family[1] we are getting there

What a clueless wally, people on left and right are against discrimination, shows how much you live by anger

What identity are you losing?

The only thing you have to argue is something that has been argued from countless time onward, cultural pessimism.

So is our culture of binge drinking being diminished?

Is our culture of sex offending being diminished being as 60,000 are on the sex offenders register and are 95% white?

Is our culture of violence with football hooliganism being diminished?

Are these identities you are afraid of losing?

by SEXY MAMA Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:24 pm

Victor your rants are aimed at the wrong people.

You have a problem with the emptying of churches? Why is that? What is the cause?

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:27 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:Victor your rants are aimed at the wrong people.

You have a problem with the emptying of churches? Why is that? What is the cause?

Sorry Sexy, Victor is showing his true colours, he argues what the Nazi's argued against the Jews, their culture being taken away, how Judaism was incompatible with western ways, how Jews raped western women, the same utterly lame arguments, by people who are utterly idiots

I have no respect for an idiot who bases his same arguments as the Nazi's

by SEXY MAMA Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:31 pm

Didge wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:Victor your rants are aimed at the wrong people.

You have a problem with the emptying of churches? Why is that? What is the cause?

Sorry Sexy, Victor is showing his true colours, he argues what the Nazi's argued against the Jews, their culture being taken away, how Judaism was incompatible with western ways, how Jews raped western women, the same utterly lame arguments, by people who are utterly idiots

I have no respect for an idiot who bases his same arguments as the Nazi's

No need to apologise Didge.

I never realized he had so much hatred in him Sad

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:43 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Didge wrote:

Sorry Sexy, Victor is showing his true colours, he argues what the Nazi's argued against the Jews, their culture being taken away, how Judaism was incompatible with western ways, how Jews raped western women, the same utterly lame arguments, by people who are utterly idiots

I have no respect for an idiot who bases his same arguments as the Nazi's

No need to apologise Didge.

I never realized he had so much hatred in him

Sadly for you as a Muslim more than any, he now casts you sexy. We all know people with extreme views in religion are a nightmare and even worse when they are in control but he ignores countless history of our own nation and sadly does not recognise not only me but you as British. You see I have had debates with victor on race before and he sees white as superior and has tried to argue the differences even on speak about differences in race on free but most ignored his subtle arguments, even when he was lost for words on the fact biologically we are one human race, but still tried to argiu based not on biology but culture, as if all are the same from a culture showing his true ignorance

I have no time for the twat, he argues as I say the same lame arguments as the Nazi;s did on the jews, sadly now it is the Muslims and had the cheek to call me countless times a Nazi when I am not racist.

Let him stew in his own hate

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:45 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:Victor your rants are aimed at the wrong people.

You have a problem with the emptying of churches? Why is that? What is the cause?

Can YOU read SM??? that "agenda" I posted is not my invention.....
AND...did you actually SEE my reply to EIL??? obviously not......

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:55 pm

And as for didge the dodge, furthering JD's agenda, AND being the twisted liar he is....continues to chant the "progressives' mantra of "nazi"....SOLEY based on the fact that I disagree with the notion that "multiculturalism (as we have it practiced) is not the best thing since sliced bread...

Typical of the kind, Didge as ever reverts to type and trots out the "sixhirb" smears.....simply for suspecting that his pet "social experiment" is not all its cracked up to be....

You wonder why THIS victor is not the same as the "old" victor.....look at two posters on here....they are the best recruiting agents the R/W have...because the R/W are actually the ONLY defense we have against a "regime" that is more controlling than the nazis ever where...only they use laws and smears instead of machine guns...
the regime that says "DO AS WE SAY...WE KNOW WHATS BEST...YOU ARE SHEEP YOU WILL BE HERDED"

you either believe there rhetoric..or you are a nazi....or bigot...or sexist...or.........And you are NOT allowed to question it....see didge above......

by Tommy Monk Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:59 pm

Exactly right Victor!

That is the leftie way, do as you're told, we know best, don't question us or our rules.

by Guest Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:45 am

victorisnotamused wrote:And as for didge the dodge, furthering JD's agenda, AND being the twisted liar he is....continues to chant the "progressives' mantra of "nazi"....SOLEY based on the fact that I disagree with the notion that "multiculturalism (as we have it practiced) is not the best thing since sliced bread...

Typical of the kind, Didge as ever reverts to type and trots out the "sixhirb" smears.....simply for suspecting that his pet "social experiment" is not all its cracked up to be....

You wonder why THIS victor is not the same as the "old" victor.....look at two posters on here....they are the best recruiting agents the R/W have...because the R/W are actually the ONLY defense we have against a "regime" that is more controlling than the nazis ever where...only they use laws and smears instead of machine guns...
the regime that says "DO AS WE SAY...WE KNOW WHATS BEST...YOU ARE SHEEP YOU WILL BE HERDED"

you either believe there rhetoric..or you are a nazi....or bigot...or sexist...or.........And you are NOT allowed to question it....see didge above......

I love it again h waits always until I go off line to repl and again still ignores the Nazi's used the exact same arguments about the Jews that you use on Muslims.
Nobody is forcing you to do anything and if your beef is with halal you are a hypocritical twat because you hunt which is less humane than the halal process.
The fact you have shown your true colours and are i fact far right wing, is obvious, as I am center right wing and you come outwith daft views on politics that smelly does, seriously get an education on Politics, your knowledge is embarrassing as is your racial beliefs.

Again though you come out with so much bullshit but cannot refute the fact many of your arguments have so many similar bullshit to the Nazis, all you do is whine and moan claiming your way of life is being eroded and again said nothing about the cultures I listed showing again you are nothing but again an idiot

Try answering them instead of your continual bullshit replies

by Guest Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:47 am

This post was made by Didge who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.

do i have a stalker now.

I havnt looked but I bet thats full of didges progressive lies and smears....with an attempt to justify them with NOTHING...just insinuation...with no substance ...

more of the progressive agenda to shut down discussion of their pet ideas...

the progressive "hymn"....do as you are told, question not, for you are assimilated"...

fall off your perch didge...no one takes you seriously on here.....you are a laughing stock

by Guest Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:54 am

victorisnotamused wrote:
Joy Division wrote:

Well, either way Tess...Victor has his wee list up describing the immigrants and foreigners ruining this country, and how folk on benefits are taking all...

Yes , some are bone idle assholes , but I just hate when things are misrepresented, distortion and twisting,,,nasty and spiteful.

The kind of handle bar moist ache attitude, like he would somehow run this country so much better....

Another George Osborne more like ...but most likely another Farage or Griffin.

piss of JD...you cant read, and you CERTAINLY cant think......

pick up ONE distortion to the effect of what you said in your first line of this post.....

go on...DO IT...or if you cant ...appologies you scumbag liar

Oh Victor stop this ridiculously embarrassing shite, stop trying to act like some kind of God, your making the biggest tit of yourself and you've turned into a cheeky tosser...

You bloody fool can't you see the way your acting?..calling everyone idiots etc, your definitely losing respect from many with your racist agenda..
You can stick your wee 'world to rights racist list' right up your fucking hairy arse you clown.
Your just another extreme RW tosser.
Get to fuck.

by Guest Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:01 am

go on JD ...what is "racist" on that list???

Identify it...clearly and explain why it is so....I dare you

dont do a didge...and post nothing but rhetoric.....but a cogent reasoning why....

THEN go on and explain i the same way, why anything in my comments is against the poor and benefits claiment....

BUT ....I suggest you read my reasoning reply to EIL......FIRST....

or I'll eat you....

by Raggamuffin Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:01 am

victorisnotamused wrote:the unstated marxist agenda, well understood and approved of by the liberalists (progressives), in lieu of anything intelligent of their own

The creation of racism offences yup, done
Continual change to create confusion yup, done
The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children yup, done
The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority yup, done by 1973
Huge immigration to destroy identity well on its way
The promotion of excessive drinking yup, another one ticked off
Emptying of churches we are getting there
An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime yup, done
Dependency on the state or state benefits yup, done but its costing too much, so we will demonise the poor instead
Control and dumbing down of media achieved years ago, but increasing
Encouraging the breakdown of the family[1] we are getting there

So what is the purpose of this agenda?

by Guest Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:02 am

[quote="Didge"]

victorisnotamused wrote:And as for didge the dodge, furthering JD's agenda, AND being the twisted liar he is....continues to chant the "progressives' mantra of "nazi"....SOLEY based on the fact that I disagree with the notion that "multiculturalism (as we have it practiced) is not the best thing since sliced bread...

Typical of the kind, Didge as ever reverts to type and trots out the "sixhirb" smears.....simply for suspecting that his pet "social experiment" is not all its cracked up to be....

You wonder why THIS victor is not the same as the "old" victor.....look at two posters on here....they are the best recruiting agents the R/W have...because the R/W are actually the ONLY defense we have against a "regime" that is more controlling than the nazis ever where...only they use laws and smears instead of machine guns...
the regime that says "DO AS WE SAY...WE KNOW WHATS BEST...YOU ARE SHEEP YOU WILL BE HERDED"

you either believe there rhetoric..or you are a nazi....or bigot...or sexist...or.........And you are NOT allowed to question it....see didge above......

I love it again h waits always until I go off line to repl and again still ignores the Nazi's used the exact same arguments about the Jews that you use on Muslims.
Nobody is forcing you to do anything and if your beef is with halal you are a hypocritical twat because you hunt which is less humane than the halal process.
The fact you have shown your true colours and are i fact far right wing, is obvious, as I am center right wing and you come outwith daft views on politics that smelly does, seriously get an education on Politics, your knowledge is embarrassing as is your racial beliefs.

Again though you come out with so much bullshit but cannot refute the fact many of your arguments have so many similar bullshit to the Nazis, all you do is whine and moan claiming your way of life is being eroded and again said nothing about the cultures I listed showing again you are nothing but again an idiot

Try answering them instead of your continual bullshit replies [/

Your quite right Didge and to think he used to be a likeable lad who was on the placid side...

Now he revolts against anyone ,has developed a self centered arrogant and hateful attitude, im no gonna respect a clown like that, cheeky outspoken, rude pillock he has turned into.
Il treat the fucker with the disrespect, bad attitude he shows me and others, I can't respect an idiot with bigoted and extreme right wing views like that.

by Guest Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:05 am

victorisnotamused wrote:go on JD ...what is "racist" on that list???

Identify it...clearly and explain why it is so....I dare you

dont do a didge...and post nothing but rhetoric.....but a cogent reasoning why....

THEN go on and explain i the same way, why anything in my comments is against the poor and benefits claiment....

BUT ....I suggest you read my reasoning reply to EIL......FIRST....

or I'll eat you....

You' ll no eat me, and you can shove your reasoning and insight right up your arse Victor..I don't give a shit how clever you think you are, it bores me to tears, and I just don't know who you are trying to impress....

You're bang out of order and have been trying to justify your extremist views.

by nicko Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:05 am

calling every one idiots, isn't that what didge does all the while? you don't say anything about that ,do you?

by Guest Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:07 am

victorisnotamused wrote:go on JD ...what is "racist" on that list???

Identify it...clearly and explain why it is so....I dare you

dont do a didge...and post nothing but rhetoric.....but a cogent reasoning why....

THEN go on and explain i the same way, why anything in my comments is against the poor and benefits claiment....

BUT ....I suggest you read my reasoning reply to EIL......FIRST....

or I'll eat you....

You can start with the creation of racial offences...

So you believe Muslims , blacks and others don't deserve to be protected form racism?or acts of racial violence?...

What the hell is wrong with you man?

by Guest Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:07 am

nicko wrote:calling every one idiots, isn't that what didge does all the while? you don't say anything about that ,do you?

Look at the fucking 'list' Victor has made Nicko.

by Guest Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:13 am

Irn Bru made a great point the other day...

Most people grow out of things like being biased, racist etc...it seems your doing just the opposite Victor.

Very poor sport.

by Guest Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:16 am

And if you can't see anything wrong with that shity little hateful list Victor...

Then I will help you with that.

by Raggamuffin Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:21 am

Joy Division wrote:Irn Bru made a great point the other day...

Most people grow out of things like being biased, racist etc...it seems your doing just the opposite Victor.

Very poor sport.

You were impressed with him last night when he was defending those people who tortured a pregnant woman.

by Guest Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:23 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Joy Division wrote:Irn Bru made a great point the other day...

Most people grow out of things like being biased, racist etc...it seems your doing just the opposite Victor.

Very poor sport.

You were impressed with him last night when he was defending those people who tortured a pregnant woman.

..I wasn't impressed with anything, may I add it was you that was...until your little misunderstanding,,,

The guy is usually alright, and despite what he says about me or others, he does not normally hold extreme views like this.

by Raggamuffin Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:24 am

Joy Division wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You were impressed with him last night when he was defending those people who tortured a pregnant woman.

..I wasn't impressed with anything, may I add it was you that was...until your little misunderstanding,,,

The guy is usually alright, and despite what he says about me or others, he does not normally hold extreme views like this.

What was me? I didn't defend those people at all.

You were impressed with him because he was having a go at me - that was very clear.

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