it seems the pharma companies do have to much power..

even other researchers claim they cannot get enough help or exposure to out forward good ideas to cure cancer..

http://rifesociety.org/about-us/principal-scientists-in-research/

it does seem to show that alternatives are not being properly funded or encouraged .

VOD(original) wrote:it does seem to show that alternatives are not being properly funded or encouraged .

and this from research sources, it makes you wonder who they are working for as it does not seem to be for the benefit of the patient..

Interest in Rife was revived in the 1980s by author Barry Lynes, who wrote a book about Rife entitled The Cancer Cure That Worked. The book claimed that Rife's 'beam ray' device could cure cancer, but that all mention of his discoveries was suppressed in the 1930s by a wide-ranging conspiracy headed by the American Medical Association. The American Cancer Society described Lynes' claims as implausible, noting that the book was written "in a style typical of conspiratorial theorists" and defied any independent verification.[5]

In response to this renewed interest, devices bearing Rife's name began to be produced and marketed in the 1980s. Such 'Rife devices' have figured prominently in several cases of health fraud in the U.S., typically centered around the uselessness of the devices and the grandiose claims with which they are marketed. In a 1996 case, the marketers of a 'Rife device' claiming to cure numerous diseases including cancer and AIDS were convicted of felony health fraud.[13] The sentencing judge described them as "target[ing] the most vulnerable people, including those suffering from terminal disease" and providing false hope.[14] In 2002 John Bryon Krueger, who operated the Royal Rife Research Society, was sentenced to 12 years in prison for his role in a murder and also received a concurrent 30-month sentence for illegally selling Rife devices. In 2009 a U.S. court convicted James Folsom of 26 felony counts for sale of the Rife devices sold as 'NatureTronics', 'AstroPulse', 'BioSolutions', 'Energy Wellness', and 'Global Wellness'.[15]

Several deaths have resulted from the use of Rife machines in place of standard medical treatment. In one case, a U.S. court found that the marketer of a Rife device had violated the law and that, as a result of her actions, a cancer patient had ceased chemotherapy and died.[16] In Australia, the use of Rife machines has been blamed for the deaths of cancer patients who might have been cured with conventional therapy.[7]

In 1994, the American Cancer Society reported that Rife machines were being sold in a "pyramid-like, multilevel marketing scheme". A key component in the marketing of Rife devices has been the claim, initially put forward by Rife himself, that the devices were being suppressed by an establishment conspiracy against cancer "cures".[5] Although 'Rife devices' are not registered by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and have been linked to deaths among cancer sufferers, the Seattle Times reported that over 300 people attended the 2006 Rife International Health Conference in Seattle, where dozens of unregistered devices were sold.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Rife

of course they were convicted, who stood against them, the pharma companies...

perhaps you can finally see the problem...  

http://www.gersonmedia.com/DVDs.html   

Oh HF wants to see more cancer deaths again      

veya_victaous wrote:Oh HF wants to see more cancer deaths again      

where does it say that ?

and would you welcome pharma companies testing natural remedies if it meant curing cancer or are you just against alternative treatment altogether ?

@VOD
We (the Australian taxpayer) have already Tested a lot them.... they failed.

We have taxpayer funded clinical test unlike the USA we do not ask big Pharma to test they own stuff we do it our selves which is why more than half the drugs in the USA are illegal here because hey fail or have too serve side effects compare to their positive effect.

@veya , so which ones didn't fail ?

VOD(original) wrote:@veya , so which ones didn't fail ?

The ones that passed and we pay for as Medicine through the Pharmaceutical benefits scheme (PBS), that is the key difference between medicine/treatment and Alternative treatments and supplements. they failed so they are not allowed to call themselves medicine. Australia has some of the toughest false advertising laws so if you want to know if something is too good to be true see if it is advertised that way in Australia.

so which ones passed that were once an alternative and is now a medicine and how successful are they ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1383240/Boy-brain-cancer-cured-secretly-fed-medical-marijuana-father.html

@ veya have you read this article ?

VOD(original) wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1383240/Boy-brain-cancer-cured-secretly-fed-medical-marijuana-father.html

@ veya have you read this article ?

Interesting but no evidence it was the marijuana that helped the boy, which is why such claims are poor, because they take the view something has made them better when it may have had no affect at all

veya_victaous wrote:Oh HF wants to see more cancer deaths again      

Oh for goodness sake Veya! So you dislike him, doesn't mean he wants people to die does it?

Are you saying you don't think pharma companies aren't getting very wealthy from (sometimes) unnecessary medicines?? Even if you don't believe in alternative therapy for cancer treatment, can't you even see that these big companies aren't greedy?

eddie wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:Oh HF wants to see more cancer deaths again      

Oh for goodness sake Veya! So you dislike him, doesn't mean he wants people to die does it?

Are you saying you don't think pharma companies aren't getting very wealthy from (sometimes) unnecessary medicines?? Even if you don't believe in alternative therapy for cancer treatment, can't you even see that these big companies aren't greedy?

Eddie but such views can lead to people dying hence why it can make people annoyed, because what is being proposed is dangerous, for example would you be a happy for a 14 year old friend of your son who has no medical knowledge and is clearly inexperienced tell your son to take heroin, because he claims it is good for him? You would freak out because you would know it is dangerous and would no doubt ask your boy not to see him anymore. That is what is being proposed all the time from HF, someone with little medical understanding telling people dangerous incorrect views, which could prevent the from seeking the right medical care.

Do you have any knowledge of any Pharma companies or are you again going off what you think?

sadly little Cash died ,please read before coming to judgment

http://www.prweb.com/releases/cashhyde/medicalmarijuana/prweb10146448.htm

PhilDidge wrote:

eddie wrote:

Oh for goodness sake Veya! So you dislike him, doesn't mean he wants people to die does it?

Are you saying you don't think pharma companies aren't getting very wealthy from (sometimes) unnecessary medicines?? Even if you don't believe in alternative therapy for cancer treatment, can't you even see that these big companies aren't greedy?

Eddie but such views can lead to people dying hence why it can make people annoyed, because what is being proposed is dangerous, for example would you be a happy for a 14 year old friend of your son who has no medical knowledge and is clearly inexperienced tell your son to take heroin, because he claims it is good for him? You would freak out because you would know it is dangerous and would no doubt ask your boy not to see him anymore. That is what is being proposed all the time from HF, someone with little medical understanding telling people dangerous incorrect views, which could prevent the from seeking the right medical care.

Do you have any knowledge of any Pharma companies or are you again going off what you think?

and forcing people to take chemo kills people....

VOD(original) wrote:sadly little Cash died ,please read before coming to judgment  

http://www.prweb.com/releases/cashhyde/medicalmarijuana/prweb10146448.htm

that is so sad, why would they block anything that could have helped..  

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Eddie but such views can lead to people dying hence why it can make people annoyed, because what is being proposed is dangerous, for example would you be a happy for a 14 year old friend of your son who has no medical knowledge and is clearly inexperienced tell your son to take heroin, because he claims it is good for him? You would freak out because you would know it is dangerous and would no doubt ask your boy not to see him anymore. That is what is being proposed all the time from HF, someone with little medical understanding telling people dangerous incorrect views, which could prevent the from seeking the right medical care.

Do you have any knowledge of any Pharma companies or are you again going off what you think?

and forcing people to take chemo kills people....

You see Eddie what I mean about someone with little medical understand and how dangerous they are, now you can understand why many get annoyed

HF Nobody is being forced, they are being given the best options, the only time need to make a decision, would be with parents who would be denying the best treatment for that child, mainly as they would hold absurd views like you..

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

VOD(original) wrote:sadly little Cash died ,please read before coming to judgment  

http://www.prweb.com/releases/cashhyde/medicalmarijuana/prweb10146448.htm

that is so sad, why would they block anything that could have helped..  

he was living life as a normal child and then they blocked his treatment , they murdered him the bastards   

PhilDidge wrote:

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

and forcing people to take chemo kills people....

You see Eddie what I mean about someone with little medical understand and how dangerous they are, now you can understand why many get annoyed

HF Nobody is being forced, they are being given the best options, the only time need to make a decision, would be with parents who would be denying the best treatment for that child, mainly as they would hold absurd views like you..

you said you would force treatment and i believe there was a case were parents were forced against their wishes to have their child take chemo....

is that murder, even worse its assassination, i believe that is the term for murder for money...

didge the best treatment for this little boy was hemp oil it kept him cancer free , but they blocked his treatment and closed down the clinic. Do you think that is right when he was in remission or is it the correct thing to do cutting off his treatment and now he is dead .

VOD(original) wrote:didge the best treatment for this little boy was hemp oil it kept him cancer free , but they blocked his treatment and closed down the clinic. Do you think that is right when he was in remission or is it the correct thing to do cutting off his treatment and now he is dead .

of course they did, they would sooner murder a child than see any real cure come through that wouldn't make them millions...

VOD(original) wrote:didge the best treatment for this little boy was hemp oil it kept him cancer free , but they blocked his treatment and closed down the clinic. Do you think that is right when he was in remission or is it the correct thing to do cutting off his treatment and now he is dead .

Sorry VOD no evidence for that at all, sadly like many patients with cancer he died, there is no evidence what they were using helped him, which again you need to understand

PhilDidge wrote:

VOD(original) wrote:didge the best treatment for this little boy was hemp oil it kept him cancer free , but they blocked his treatment and closed down the clinic. Do you think that is right when he was in remission or is it the correct thing to do cutting off his treatment and now he is dead .

Sorry VOD no evidence for that at all, sadly like many patients with cancer he died, there is no evidence what they were using helped him, which again you need to understand

they knew one thing the chemo poisons did him no good at all....

but it does make some people very rich so thats good...

so the chemo killed him after all then , but how can that happen ? its such a great treatment and is the only treatment that should be used according to you didge . They murdered him , they failed him with chemo and they didn't want hemp oil keeping him alive . The evidence was the little boy living a healthy happy life , what more do you want ?

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:



Sorry VOD no evidence for that at all, sadly like many patients with cancer he died, there is no evidence what they were using helped him, which again you need to understand

they knew one thing the chemo poisons did him no good at all....

but it does make some people very rich so thats good...

Again there is no evidence the oil helped him, the fact is sadly again many people die from cancer of which some there is little that can be done.

VOD(original) wrote:so the chemo killed him after all then , but how can hat happen ? its such a great treatment and is the only treatment that should be used according to you didge . They murdered him , they failed him with chemo and they didn't want hemp oil keeping him alive . The evidence was the little boy living a healthy happy life , what more do you want ?

No the cancer killed him, show me the autopsy showing it was the chemo?

Sorry you are making things up now vod, he died of cancer

there is evidence the boy wasn't eating and wasn't responding to chemo it was killing him slowly and painfully. His father gave him hemp oil through a tube in his stomach and he immediately improved and even started eating , the evidence was there to see it was the life coming back in a little boy ravished by chemo poison .

PhilDidge wrote:

VOD(original) wrote:so the chemo killed him after all then , but how can hat happen ? its such a great treatment and is the only treatment that should be used according to you didge . They murdered him , they failed him with chemo and they didn't want hemp oil keeping him alive . The evidence was the little boy living a healthy happy life , what more do you want ?

No the cancer killed him, show me the autopsy showing it was the chemo?

Sorry you are making things up now vod, he died of cancer

chemo is poison, i can't believe you don't know that...

he was out of luck with chemo, the hemp oil was actually helping him improve but the money grabbing aholes, shut the hemp oil down as they would sooner see their pockets full and people die...

VOD(original) wrote:there is evidence the boy wasn't eating and wasn't responding to chemo it was killing him slowly and painfully. His father gave him hemp oil through a tube in his stomach and he immediately improved and even started eating , the evidence was there to see it was the life coming back in a little boy ravished by chemo poison .

Again show me the autopsy?

He died because he had cancer, there is no evidence the oil helped, sadly this boy had cancer which could not be saved in the end, basing your claim with no evidence is not a claim at all

PhilDidge wrote:

VOD(original) wrote:so the chemo killed him after all then , but how can hat happen ? its such a great treatment and is the only treatment that should be used according to you didge . They murdered him , they failed him with chemo and they didn't want hemp oil keeping him alive . The evidence was the little boy living a healthy happy life , what more do you want ?

No the cancer killed him, show me the autopsy showing it was the chemo?

Sorry you are making things up now vod, he died of cancer

you can go on facebook and his father has a page dedicated to his beloved precious son , send him a message and ask him i dare you to do that if your so sure chemo didn't poison this little boys body and kill him.
go on email his father if you dare you , your heartless

VOD(original) wrote:there is evidence the boy wasn't eating and wasn't responding to chemo it was killing him slowly and painfully. His father gave him hemp oil through a tube in his stomach and he immediately improved and even started eating , the evidence was there to see it was the life coming back in a little boy ravished by chemo poison .

ignore the prick love, he would sooner see people die because he believes it is right... herr dicktator does not believe in equality, freedom of rights or freedom of choice...

VOD(original) wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:



No the cancer killed him, show me the autopsy showing it was the chemo?

Sorry you are making things up now vod, he died of cancer

you can go on facebook and his father has a page dedicated to his beloved precious son , send him a message and ask him i dare you to do that if your so sure chemo didn't poison this little boys body and kill him.
go on email his father if you dare you , your heartless

I am not on Facebook and that is not something scientific is it, but the views of people

Why would I email the father when he has beliefs like you, mistaken, the fact is there is no evidence to support your claim and using guilt arguments are poor to say the least

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

VOD(original) wrote:there is evidence the boy wasn't eating and wasn't responding to chemo it was killing him slowly and painfully. His father gave him hemp oil through a tube in his stomach and he immediately improved and even started eating , the evidence was there to see it was the life coming back in a little boy ravished by chemo poison .

ignore the prick love, he would sooner see people die because he believes it is right... herr dicktator does not believe in equality, freedom of rights or freedom of choice...

this stands repeating, ignore didge the prick, herr dicktator does not believe in freedom of choice, speech or will...  

Sorry VOD but if your husband is going to act like a child it will just ruin the debate between us, am happy to have an adult conversation over this, but you need to put your husband back on his lead or at least let him out for a walk

 

the hemp oil was curing the cancer as it has proved it does many times but some like herr dicktator would sooner see people die as he believes it is right, i think all the famous dictators have believed the same and many innocent people die proving them wrong...

http://www.cashhydefoundation.org/#!cashys-story/cee5

VOD(original) wrote:http://www.cashhydefoundation.org/#!cashys-story/cee5

I have been reading up more on this, so you might find this interesting VOD


http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2012/07/25/cannabis-cannabinoids-and-cancer-the-evidence-so-far/

VOD(original) wrote:http://www.cashhydefoundation.org/#!cashys-story/cee5

don't bore didge with facts, he's made his mind up that everyone must die for what he believes in....

At the moment, there simply isn’t enough evidence to prove that cannabinoids – whether natural or synthetic – works to treat cancer in patients, although research is ongoing. And there’s certainly no evidence that ‘street’ cannabis can treat cancer.


As a research-based organisation, we continue to watch the progress of scientists around the world for advances that may benefit people with cancer. And although cannabinoid research is an interesting avenue, it’s certainly not the only one.

http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2012/07/25/cannabis-cannabinoids-and-cancer-the-evidence-so-far/

Cannabinoid Therapeutics
Medical cannabis (also referred to as medical marijuana) is the use of cannabis and its constituent cannabinoids such as THC as a physician-recommended form of medicine or herbal therapy. The Cannabis plant from which the cannabis drug is derived has a long history of medicinal use, with evidence dating back to 2,737 BC.

Cashy is the youngest Medical Cannabis patient in the United States. We were able to replace seven scary and toxic drugs that were given to Cash as a nausea cocktail around the clock with 0.3 Milliliters of cannabis oil. At the time we decided to give Cash this safe and therapeutic medicine, he was so sick that he hadn’t eaten in over 40 days and was living on TPN and Lipids as intravenous nutrition, he vomited 8-10 times a day and could barely lift his head off the pillow. Within two weeks of receiving the oil, Cash was eating, laughing, and had a quality of life we hadn’t seen in months.

Cash survived septic shock, stroke, pulmonary hemorrhage, pulmonary hypertension, all side effects of the chemotherapy and bone marrow transplants he had received. We were told after his 4th cardiac arrest episode he would have brain damage, organ failure and that he would ultimately die. However, he did not die, and it was because of the cannabinoid therapeutics that he was receiving and their Antioxidant and Neuroprotectant capabilities.

Cashy is the first pediatric cancer patient to receive full cranial and spinal radiation without the use of any conventional nausea and pain medications. Once again Cashy has been given a quality of life that is not possible on pharmaceutical drugs and has had minimal side effects thanks to Cannabinoid Therapeutics and their patented Antioxidant and Neuroprotectant capabilities.

Until Cannabis and Hemp are fully legalized patients like Cashy will continue to suffer and die at an alarming rate. With Hemp Agriculture we can save our Environment, Create Green Industry and Guarantee that our children have posterity!

I really suggest you read the link I gave you as I do for you VOD, and it is an interesting study on cannabinoids with much more research needed

VOD(original) wrote:Cannabinoid Therapeutics
Medical cannabis (also referred to as medical marijuana) is the use of cannabis and its constituent cannabinoids such as THC as a physician-recommended form of medicine or herbal therapy. The Cannabis plant from which the cannabis drug is derived has a long history of medicinal use, with evidence dating back to 2,737 BC.

Cashy is the youngest Medical Cannabis patient in the United States. We were able to replace seven scary and toxic drugs that were given to Cash as a nausea cocktail around the clock with 0.3 Milliliters of cannabis oil. At the time we decided to give Cash this safe and therapeutic medicine, he was so sick that he hadn’t eaten in over 40 days and was living on TPN and Lipids as intravenous nutrition, he vomited 8-10 times a day and could barely lift his head off the pillow. Within two weeks of receiving the oil, Cash was eating, laughing, and had a quality of life we hadn’t seen in months.

Cash survived septic shock, stroke, pulmonary hemorrhage, pulmonary hypertension, all side effects of the chemotherapy and bone marrow transplants he had received. We were told after his 4th cardiac arrest episode he would have brain damage, organ failure and that he would ultimately die. However, he did not die, and it was because of the cannabinoid therapeutics that he was receiving and their Antioxidant and Neuroprotectant capabilities.

Cashy is the first pediatric cancer patient to receive full cranial and spinal radiation without the use of any conventional nausea and pain medications. Once again Cashy has been given a quality of life that is not possible on pharmaceutical drugs and has had minimal side effects thanks to Cannabinoid Therapeutics and their patented Antioxidant and Neuroprotectant capabilities.

Until Cannabis and Hemp are fully legalized patients like Cashy will continue to suffer and die at an alarming rate. With Hemp Agriculture we can save our Environment, Create Green Industry and Guarantee that our children have posterity!

excellent post but herr dicktator wants people to die for what it believes..

United Patients Group applauds Dr. Sanjay Gupta’s recent program, “Weed 2: Cannabis Madness,” and adds that cannabis is an effective treatment for epilepsy and many other diseases and that Colorado is not the only destination for patients seeking safe access to the treatment they need; California has been a refuge for cannabis patients for eighteen years



Read Full Story Now:
http://www.prweb.com/releases/California-Medical/Cannabis-Refugees/prweb11666249.ht

Sorry VOD you are not debating but just posting countless articles, that does not win a debate, because again you can only go off claims of others, oh well never mind

VOD(original) wrote:United Patients Group applauds Dr. Sanjay Gupta’s recent program, “Weed 2: Cannabis Madness,” and adds that cannabis is an effective treatment for epilepsy and many other diseases and that Colorado is not the only destination for patients seeking safe access to the treatment they need; California has been a refuge for cannabis patients for eighteen years



Read Full Story Now:
http://www.prweb.com/releases/California-Medical/Cannabis-Refugees/prweb11666249.ht

another great post VOD..

you have to wonder why all this information is ignored though, perhaps it is repressed by pharma companies who make a fortune...

Gets funnier by the minute as if posting countless articles is debating lol


Oh well this was never a debate but a platform to advertise again

there is certainly enough information out there but of course the pharma companies want their millions and if that means people dying so be it..