“Harry Potter” themed death group...Russian girls plunge to death

A CHILD model and her pal have died after falling from a tower block amid reports they were part of a Harry Potter-themed online “death group”.
Varvara Vlasova and Valeria Shirshova, both aged 12, made a short video clip before plunging from the top of a 17-floor building in Samara, in south west Russia.
They were seen smiling before one of them said “nightmare” to the camera and then started to laugh, reports say.

The girls were classmates from “wealthy” families and were described as “excellent students” and had attended school before falling to their deaths.

They reportedly fell 170ft from the residential block where Varvara - a successful child model - lived.

Life media citing police sources reported that the girls were in a social media group which “set them tasks”.

Their parents had believed this group to be “associated with Harry Potter” and to be “harmless”.

Police are actively checking their viewing habits, reports say.

Russia in recent years has suffered a spate of child “suicides” in which deaths have been linked to sinister online groups pushing vulnerable young people to take their own lives.

Maddog wrote:Maybe I was lucky to grow up in a different time. I don't get this kind of stuff. I'm trying to think back to that time in my life. I did dangerous stuff, but I never had any desire to end it all. Don't know if that's just me or my environment.  

Original Quill wrote:It's all about drinking Kool-aid.

eddie wrote:Child model and pal, both 12, die falling from tower block after being ‘brainwashed by Harry Potter-themed death group’

A CHILD model and her pal have died after falling from a tower block amid reports they were part of a Harry Potter-themed online “death group”.
Varvara Vlasova and Valeria Shirshova, both aged 12, made a short video clip before plunging from the top of a 17-floor building in Samara, in south west Russia.
They were seen smiling before one of them said “nightmare” to the camera and then started to laugh, reports say.

The girls were classmates from “wealthy” families and were described as “excellent students” and had attended school before falling to their deaths.

They reportedly fell 170ft from the residential block where Varvara - a successful child model - lived.

Life media citing police sources reported that the girls were in a social media group which “set them tasks”.

Their parents had believed this group to be “associated with Harry Potter” and to be “harmless”.

Police are actively checking their viewing habits, reports say.

Russia in recent years has suffered a spate of child “suicides” in which deaths have been linked to sinister online groups pushing vulnerable young people to take their own lives.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14004181/child-model-friend-suicide-tower-block-russia/

Ben Reilly wrote:I really hope the Russian media, as restricted as they are, stays on this story. I'd love to know more about what drove these kids to this.

HoratioTarr wrote:

eddie wrote:Child model and pal, both 12, die falling from tower block after being ‘brainwashed by Harry Potter-themed death group’

A CHILD model and her pal have died after falling from a tower block amid reports they were part of a Harry Potter-themed online “death group”.
Varvara Vlasova and Valeria Shirshova, both aged 12, made a short video clip before plunging from the top of a 17-floor building in Samara, in south west Russia.
They were seen smiling before one of them said “nightmare” to the camera and then started to laugh, reports say.

The girls were classmates from “wealthy” families and were described as “excellent students” and had attended school before falling to their deaths.

They reportedly fell 170ft from the residential block where Varvara - a successful child model - lived.

Life media citing police sources reported that the girls were in a social media group which “set them tasks”.

Their parents had believed this group to be “associated with Harry Potter” and to be “harmless”.

Police are actively checking their viewing habits, reports say.

Russia in recent years has suffered a spate of child “suicides” in which deaths have been linked to sinister online groups pushing vulnerable young people to take their own lives.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14004181/child-model-friend-suicide-tower-block-russia/

I personally believe a person should be 18 or over to use social media.   It's a double edged sword and I think is one of the major causes of this child mental health crisis that's going on right now.

We were all playing out when we were kids.  Or if we couldn't play out we made our own entertainment.  I have a nephew of 12 who's glued to his fucking computer games for hours at  a time in a darkened room.  He's putting on weight and doesn't want to come out of his bedroom.   I'd be cutting the plug off the thing and make him read a bloody book.

eddie wrote:

Maddog wrote:Maybe I was lucky to grow up in a different time. I don't get this kind of stuff. I'm trying to think back to that time in my life. I did dangerous stuff, but I never had any desire to end it all. Don't know if that's just me or my environment.  

I think social media certainly plays a massive part in these types of suicides.

At just twelve years old, these girls had no idea that death really meant, death. Terribly sad.

Ben Reilly wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

I personally believe a person should be 18 or over to use social media.   It's a double edged sword and I think is one of the major causes of this child mental health crisis that's going on right now.

We were all playing out when we were kids.  Or if we couldn't play out we made our own entertainment.  I have a nephew of 12 who's glued to his fucking computer games for hours at  a time in a darkened room.  He's putting on weight and doesn't want to come out of his bedroom.   I'd be cutting the plug off the thing and make him read a bloody book.

A friend of mine and eddie's has a son who's about 12 or 13 and she says he's going nuts out of school, because normally he'd be hanging out with friends and he's too old to be playing in his bedroom with toys. So basically he's on his computer all day.

My stepdaughter is 9 and already getting into the online world, and eddie and I make sure she's not online at all times. She loves when we take our neighbour's dog for a walk or even play in a tiny park across the street, hiding a toy from one another. I want her to hold onto that as long as she can. I even ask her about the games she plays on her own with her dolls, because it delights her to tell me about it and I think it makes her more keen to do it.

HoratioTarr wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

I personally believe a person should be 18 or over to use social media.   It's a double edged sword and I think is one of the major causes of this child mental health crisis that's going on right now.

We were all playing out when we were kids.  Or if we couldn't play out we made our own entertainment.  I have a nephew of 12 who's glued to his fucking computer games for hours at  a time in a darkened room.  He's putting on weight and doesn't want to come out of his bedroom.   I'd be cutting the plug off the thing and make him read a bloody book.

A friend of mine and eddie's has a son who's about 12 or 13 and she says he's going nuts out of school, because normally he'd be hanging out with friends and he's too old to be playing in his bedroom with toys. So basically he's on his computer all day.

My stepdaughter is 9 and already getting into the online world, and eddie and I make sure she's not online at all times. She loves when we take our neighbour's dog for a walk or even play in a tiny park across the street, hiding a toy from one another. I want her to hold onto that as long as she can. I even ask her about the games she plays on her own with her dolls, because it delights her to tell me about it and I think it makes her more keen to do it.

It's hard when a parent is working full time, and both my brother and his wife work full time, albeit at home.   Kids got bored years ago.  Perhaps it's because children these days are overstimulated from a young age, there's so much now for them to do, see and experience.  Lockdown makes it harder, of course.

eddie wrote:Totally agree Horatio. I keep my daughter as innocent as possible.

eddie wrote:Holy shit!

Whilst I can see social media being a good tool in some ways, in others ways it’s ruining some people, like children. I don’t understand why some parents feel it’s okay to allow their young kids a Facebook account! What can a youngster possibly learn from Facebook???

Maddog wrote:

eddie wrote:Holy shit!

Whilst I can see social media being a good tool in some ways, in others ways it’s ruining some people, like children. I don’t understand why some parents feel it’s okay to allow their young kids a Facebook account! What can a youngster possibly learn from Facebook???

Well, nothing from mine at the moment. I'm in Facebook jail again for 3 days.

Which is another topic but it's amazing what kids see on Facebook yet it's also amazing how easy you can get Zucked.  

Ben Reilly wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Well, nothing from mine at the moment. I'm in Facebook jail again for 3 days.

Which is another topic but it's amazing what kids see on Facebook yet it's also amazing how easy you can get Zucked.  

What did you post?

Maddog wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Well, nothing from mine at the moment. I'm in Facebook jail again for 3 days.

Which is another topic but it's amazing what kids see on Facebook yet it's also amazing how easy you can get Zucked.  

What did you post?

I was on Shaun King's page and he posted an article (from his rag) about how more black people had killed themselves in Chicago this year than in any other year. I'm sure that's true. I'm sure the same could be said of any group, because this has been a rough year. Anyway, some guy was bitching about how black people were so prone to killing themselves, compared to everyone else so I responded "dont worry, us YT's still kill ourselves at a higher rate, but you're gaining".

I know I got reported because it's happened before when I go on a page like that and don't tow the line.

You're not suppose to make suicide comments, but the freaking article was about suicide. Maybe the YT is considered racial, even though I'm a YT and have been called that dozens of times before by folks who are not YT's.    

Ben Reilly wrote:

Maddog wrote:

I was on Shaun King's page and he posted an article (from his rag) about how more black people had killed themselves in Chicago this year than in any other year. I'm sure that's true. I'm sure the same could be said of any group, because this has been a rough year. Anyway, some guy was bitching about how black people were so prone to killing themselves, compared to everyone else so I responded "dont worry, us YT's still kill ourselves at a higher rate, but you're gaining".

I know I got reported because it's happened before when I go on a page like that and don't tow the line.

You're not suppose to make suicide comments, but the freaking article was about suicide. Maybe the YT is considered racial, even though I'm a YT and have been called that dozens of times before by folks who are not YT's.    

I think it's bullshit that you got banned for that, but then again, it's Zuck's business, not ours, right?

eddie wrote:Child model and pal, both 12, die falling from tower block after being ‘brainwashed by Harry Potter-themed death group’

A CHILD model and her pal have died after falling from a tower block amid reports they were part of a Harry Potter-themed online “death group”.
Varvara Vlasova and Valeria Shirshova, both aged 12, made a short video clip before plunging from the top of a 17-floor building in Samara, in south west Russia.
They were seen smiling before one of them said “nightmare” to the camera and then started to laugh, reports say.

The girls were classmates from “wealthy” families and were described as “excellent students” and had attended school before falling to their deaths.

They reportedly fell 170ft from the residential block where Varvara - a successful child model - lived.

Life media citing police sources reported that the girls were in a social media group which “set them tasks”.

Their parents had believed this group to be “associated with Harry Potter” and to be “harmless”.

Police are actively checking their viewing habits, reports say.

Russia in recent years has suffered a spate of child “suicides” in which deaths have been linked to sinister online groups pushing vulnerable young people to take their own lives.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14004181/child-model-friend-suicide-tower-block-russia/