Leaving the EU - deal or no deal

by Tommy Monk Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:11 pm

Given that leaving the EU means leaving the single market and leaving the customs union, leaving the common agricultural policy and the common fisheries policy, and repealing the European communities act 1972...

Can anyone here who wants a deal, please explain how any deal is different to leaving on WTO rules...?

Because as far as I can see... all there is to have a deal about is what tariffs we are going to have in place between us and the EU after we leave...?

by Andy Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:18 pm

Question Tommy, which countries operate EXCLUSIVELY on WTO terms?

List them.

Here is a clue.

https://medium.com/@MrWeeble/who-actually-trades-solely-under-wto-rules-1b6127ce33c6

Only 1 country. It begins with M.
And up to 17% of it's population are still slaves.

by Tommy Monk Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:27 pm

That is irrelevant...

Can you answer my question...?

by Andy Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:40 pm

It's easier. to quantum physics to a newt than it is trains and trade barriers to you, Tom.
Do your own research.

by Tommy Monk Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:47 pm

I've done my research...

But it seems you haven't... as you can't answer the question...

by Tommy Monk Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:18 pm

All there is to have a deal about, is what tariffs are we going to put on trade after we leave...!

The EU withdrawal deal is over 600 pages long... and doesn't even say anything about what tariffs we will have!!!

It is 600 pages of bureaucracy designed to trap the UK into continuing to be controlled by the EU...!!!

by Syl Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:25 pm

I gave up reading about BREXIT long ago, too many lies told.

But surely leaving anywhere on good terms is bound to be beneficial to both sides. I voted out, and I still think GB will benefit long term by us not being shackled to the EU, but surely it could have been done with far less confusion and animosity than there has been.

by Tommy Monk Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:31 pm

Syl wrote:I gave up reading about BREXIT long ago, too many lies told.

But surely leaving anywhere on good terms is bound to be beneficial to both sides. I voted out, and I still think GB will benefit long term by us not being shackled to the EU, but surely it could have been done with far less confusion and animosity than there has been.

True... but the remoaners just wont accept democracy... and a lot of the confusion is intentional...

by Syl Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:01 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Syl wrote:I gave up reading about BREXIT long ago, too many lies told.

But surely leaving anywhere on good terms is bound to be beneficial to both sides. I voted out, and I still think GB will benefit long term by us not being shackled to the EU, but surely it could have been done with far less confusion and animosity than there has been.

True... but the remoaners just wont accept democracy... and a lot of the confusion is intentional...

I think a lot of the setbacks have been intentional too.

by Ben Reilly Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:19 pm

I can easily see a no-deal Brexit with Brits freaking out until the government accepts a trade deal from Trump that totally screws the British people over.

by eddie Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:21 pm

What will be will be. The sky won’t fall down and a change is as good as a rest.

by Syl Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:21 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:I can easily see a no-deal Brexit with Brits freaking out until the government accepts a trade deal from Trump that totally screws the British people over.

Well he can keep his hands off our NHS for a start. Mad

by Ben Reilly Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:28 pm

Syl wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:I can easily see a no-deal Brexit with Brits freaking out until the government accepts a trade deal from Trump that totally screws the British people over.

Well he can keep his hands off our NHS for a start.

If the economy plays out like an awful lot of economists think it will, Trump will have the UK over a barrel.

by eddie Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:38 pm

Well we shall just see. Most of the scaremongering shite never bloody happens anyway. Rolling Eyes

But, it sells newspapers.

by magica Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:03 pm

I'm just waiting for 31st October and hope Boris can deliver. Deal or not.

by Ben Reilly Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:26 pm

I think this should have been done like the implementation of Obamacare. It was passed way back in 2009, but didn't take effect (for the most part) until 2014. This gave businesses time to get their shit in gear and be ready for the change.

Businesses, especially small ones, can easily be rocked by the waves of changing regulations. Imagine you've been running a small business for a few decades and you're pretty on top of what laws you need to comply with, what stamps need to go where, etc.

Then one day, not only do you not know what rules you need to follow -- but nobody else does, either. That's a recipe for economic chaos.

by Tommy Monk Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:29 am

Businesses, especially small ones, are over burdened already by the weight of eu regulations... although 95% of uk businesses don't fo any trade with the eu at all!!!

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